Talk:Mursaat Rally 2/Archive 1

This event was rubbish

I was in International District 2 of Maguuma stade. I waited there for 1 hour for this event to begin. After 1 hour and 45 minutes, I gave up. Now, I look on the wiki and see that the event was moved to American distrcts. Why was no one in my District informed?

I think this event was not properly planned, run by cruel people who exclude all but 90 lucky people, and dont inform any Arena Net staff so that Mursaat could appear. It was the highlight of the event when Quintus organised it, now you have just ruined it! The original event had no silly dividing everyone up into their professions (a stupid idea), no costume contest (its about Mursaat, not what makes your bum look big!) and no silly raiding other towns and pretending to be little babies by (dethrowning little toys of the Royal Family (Who have actually been kidnapped!)). Leave the raiding for events like the Mes Con (it was actually good in the Mes con, as we were making everyone aware of how great a Mesmer is. Raiding a town in an event like this is stupid, escpecially, when you are dethrowning toy figures.

Also, your info on the article is wrong. Kuroli of Light didnt raise the spirits of people. He just got people to dance around a stupid disco ball (only 5 people danced, all the others were AFKers, cause thats all you will get with an event like this, a ruined one), then he handed out a white mantle badge for guessing his name (its James). They are useless pieces of junk!

Overall, I think this event was the worst community organised event ever. My was bad, as I recieved no donations, but it was better than this one. It would be better if this one never happened. It was organised by people who ruin events. This is your first one mates, kepp them coming! Next time, if an event like this ever happens again (im suprised if it does, being so rubbish and all), leave it to Quintus. Maybe he can regain next years former glory.

--Burning Freebies 22:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

PS:NEVER DO A COMMUNITY EVENT EVER AGAIN!

You don't have to be such a jerk. Perhaps we can all be thankful for the little things done, like Kuroli trying to raise spirits? Maybe people liked the contests? I did! He handed out the white mantle badge just because that happened last year, for fun! The purpose of this event is to remember last year and to make sure that the presence of the Mursaat in Guild Wars was preserved. The primary purpose was already fulfilled: Mursaat appeared in GW:EN and they are confirmed by a dev to have a role in GW2. Plus, it seems you have no idea: we DID inform Anet staff, its just that they didn't do anything. If you didn't like what was going on in the event, you dindn't have to go. It's not like you were asked to pay for the festivities (that would be rediculous), it was all in good fun. 22:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Thankful? You expect me to be THANKFUL for such a rubbish event like that? It was so bad it was as bad as Pop musci (which is for people with no musical talent). You may have informed Anet staff, but it seems you didnt try hard enough. You could have asked regina, or her many colleagues from NCSoft. And by the way, the event was far from fun. I had to wait 1 hour and 45 minutes just to try and get into International District 1. Then, tow hours later, i realise I had to go to American Districts! No wonder the first district was full of AFKers, with such a rubbish event like this.--Burning Freebies 17:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, we did try to inform people to move to the American Districts, through the Party Search, because it can be seen in every district. People were divided into professions last year, I remember, I was there. Kuroli did his best, but I was busy trying to coordinate two districts at the same time. That is not an easy task by far. Try doing that sometime, especially with the character limit of party search. Gmr Leon 22:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

You were not trying to co-ordinate 2 districts. You were just being greedy and only making the event in district 1. Cause thats what you are. A cruel person. And someone who likes to ruin what was a good event. Also, you didnt inform through party search, otherwise someone would have told us. Finaly, I think you should stop showing off with the fact that you were at last years rally (which was far better than this one, by miles). I think you should be ashamed of yourselves, ruining such an event like this. If you had so many people organising the event (I saw over 10 names on the main article page), why not send more to other districts? If Blade and Rose guild ever hosts this event ever again, it will probably be rubbish again (unless Quintus runs it, that is) --Burning Freebies 17:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

You make alot of accusations for a player who was'nt informed that it was in american districts, Burning Freebies. Its not about how good the event looked and the contests, thats not the real meaning. We acheived the reason behind the Mursaat Rally and that was to gather the supporters and show Anet our feelings towards the Mursaat and their position in the game. No offence or anything but with that attitude, I am glad you wer'nt informed. And as for the White Mantle Badges, again its the meaning, not the worth. - Skeletor Il

How could you say that! You didnt achieve your suposed "meaning". You gathered a district full of AFKers and showed your so called "appreciation" to no one. Anet werent there, so how can you show appreciation of something to no one that matters? And with that attitude of yours, Im not suprised this event was rubbish. --Burning Freebies 17:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Anet staff were informed, if you look at the top of this discussion page. Gaile was informed long before her decision to leave was announced. Any transition of responsibilities from Gaile to other replacement CRM's (of who Regina is just one of) is entirely Anet's decision. In addition, as a Community Run event, Anet is under no obligations, legal or otherwise, to acknowledge, support, or attend this event.

I know Anet dont legally need to attend this event, im not as dumb as you were to go to this rubbish event. If they legally had to, they would have come to the MesCon, which none of them did. Anet had loads of staff to give, but not many heard. With no summoned Mursaat, im not suprised this event was rubbish. --Burning Freebies 17:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Gaile's attendance last year was a nice gesture, as well as her appearances at other Community Run events, but is not a binding precedent to force all CRM's to visit all future Community Run events. This just happens to be the first major event since Gaile's parting. Erpbridge 00:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Apologies to those who were not informed of the district change. - Skeletor Il

Apologies? Is that all you can give? Im suprised you have the nerve to say that. How can you say that! --Burning Freebies 17:20, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Were you at the event last year? It was equally unorganized, to be quite honest. I was not being greedy either, I was trying to coordinate two districts and it's clear that I was unable to pull it off. Quintus held the event in only one district too, and he did as I did this year. After his speech he moved over into the second district. Summoned Mursaat cannot be expected each and every year, as is the current plan for this event.

Remember, also, that Anet's staff does read the forums and there are two threads for this event on Guru and GWO, so at least one of them is bound to see it. As to the number of people working to organize everyone, it took all of them to get the people organized. About a district full of AFKers..That was only the second international district and it was due to them that we decided to move into the American Districts. Once that was done we had a district full of active people.

Honestly, events like this should be expected to be unorganized and some people left out. It's not the intent of the organizers, but it's simply bound to happen and is impossible to keep controlled. Gmr Leon 18:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

At burning freebies, i offered my help to you once before, with the hope of an event, Frankly i will never do that again,what i see here is a childish behavior , i read your event cancelation , "lack of appreciation" springs to mind, any wonder with this sort of attitude!, you should be ashamed. Khaki1337 00:34, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

You have never tried to help me with such event, I only had a member of my alliance help me. If anything, you should be ashamed for lying to the community! If lack of appreciation springs to mind, you dont understand that I spent 5 hours every day for 2 weeks trying to plan that event, with no help, except a little from an alliance member. Thats why I was forced to cancel it. Instead of getting a "you tried your best, better luck next time" comment from you, I get "stop being such a child". You should be ashamed of yourself if anything! You trying running an event like my event, you will soon find that with only 2 organisers, there is no hope of running this event. --Burning Freebies 09:16, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Ultimately it was a player run event and you didn't have to go. If you didn't like it that's your prerogative, however no one cares if you thought it was crap or not. Please stop the needless flaming as its neither conducive or logical. -- Salome 10:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I appreciate the time and effort people put in this event, and I was quite excited about it and I had a nice time talking to a lot of people. There are some points of consideration in fact, like the start time was announced wrongly because of daylight saving time, so best keep this in consideration for next year ;-) What I didn't like, and I said it there as well, was that the entire event moved to American district. If you host an event, and you advertise it on several fan sites, you are bound to have quite a few AFK'ers, but this shouldn't be a reason to move the entire event to American districts.. It was announced to be in international districts, please keep it there then ;-). For the rest I would like to thank you for the time you all have put in this event, and don't let a few complainers put you down. I had a very nice time and I'm hoping to see other events organized. Thanks -- (Tribina / talk) 15:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I realize that wasn't the best of actions, but, as I said on the thread in GWO nothing was planned except the date and time, and my speech. Everything else happened as it happened, with no planning beforehand. As to daylight savings time. Where, exactly? I heard a bit about that from some of the UK players, but I don't live there and so I had no idea. Gmr Leon 20:12, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

If i may be so bold as to say that burning freebies is probably no more than a noob who is QQ'ing because he didnt win anything in any of the contests. I do not no if I am violating NPA atm, but i am so sick and tired of all these people who gets so mad because they fail at most of GW.....even though they say that its because something is bad, a skill is bad, things need to be nerfed, etc.....you QQ'ers make me sick--Raph Talky 21:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I am not a noob, I am just one of the many people (about 70) who never actually made it into any of the contests, so I couldnt have lost any. Also, I am doin great at GW, so I have no need to blame anyone for anything because im doin bad at GW (which I am not). You make me sick. I come to the Mursaat rally to be a part of it, not to be expelled from everything. You make me sick, because all yuo do is take from the world, and then insult everyone. With an attidude like that, Im suprised anyone likes you. --Burning Freebies 10:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

You could have just easily switched districts to see if anyone was in the district or something. I heard it didn't even have a lot of people show up, so it was not like it was a huge event. — ク Eloc 貢 01:19, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

It didnt have a lot of people show up cause they were all in the second district. They all tried to get into dis 1, but it was full of AFKers. If anything, we would have to wait 2-3 hours to get into the first district, by which time it was full.

This is to everyone about to complain. People come to these events expecting to join in with the event, not have to wait 2 hours to get to the place it is at, then find it has finished. I know Gmr Leon says people will be left out, but not everyone should be. He looked after only the people in District 1, and sent 2 people into district 2. He should have had more staff waiting to move to other districts. Im am not QQ,ing, or any other thing like that. Any other people who accuse me of such cromes will be reported to admin or sysops. --Burning Freebies 10:37, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

How about getting over it? Yeah, it could have been better organized from the sounds of it, so what? Move the frick on. Life isn't always organized. - HeWhoIsPale 10:58, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

The staff was made on the spot too, by the way. I left everything but the times and speech to be organized when this happened. Gmr Leon 11:29, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Like i said before, the event could be more organised. And yes HeWhoIsPale, I will get over it by deleting this whole comment. There are always more community events out there that I can attend, ones that (no offence to Gmr leon) are better than this one, such as Cinco De Maya. I have deleted this argument before, but is was reposted. Please can no-one repost this when I have deleted this. This argument is better forgotten then carried on. --Burning Freebies 13:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Its nice to know what you think Burning Freebies, however I think the majority of the people who have posted on this page could'nt care less what you think. I for one could'nt. And yes, if you do remove this arguement from the page, I will repost it because I believe the reason you want to remove it in the first place is because your petty excuse for an arguement was'nt even worth writing at all. Yes the event could of been more organised and yes it could of been better, but no event is perfect. I know its not fair that you were not informed but then life is'nt fair, it never has been. - Skeletor Il 15:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Plus, just for the record...Leon, Reapr and I did inform District 2 of the move. You just must of been one of those AFKers you moan about on your first comment. - Skeletor Il 16:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Aside from his continual reposting, you're not supposed to remove comments from the talk page in the first place. Also, I don't intend on organizing this thoroughly, I prefer letting everyone have a chance in interacting in events. Plus it's a nice way to meet people by working alongside them. Gmr Leon 19:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Stop the flaming, ridiculing and noob-calling please. If you wish to discuss something, do it without the personal attacks and general incivility. If you can't achieve that, then agree to disagree. -- Brains12 \ Talk 19:40, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I have the same problem with this post that I have with people that complain about free webcomics. No-one forced you to come. No-one had to do this event. No-one put a gun to your head and said go attend this event. If you had a bad experience, or for some reason were unable to find the event, then whatever. This was a free, player designed, unofficial event. If you had a bad time, we're sorry, but you don't have to go screaming at everyone about how much this event sucked because no-one forced you to go. I'm sure people worked very hard on this, so if anything they should get praise, not mindless complaints. Get off the internet ur respect skillz are teh failz. -Warior Kronos 21:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright guys, I know im not meant to remove comments from the wiki, but I think im going to have to. This has escalated to levels it never should have reached, leading to personal attacks, which are illegal on the wiki. I am removing this whole thing. I would appreciate it if no one reposts this comment, as it will be good on everyone else. It will let you get on with your lives, rather than spend them constantly insulting people. Tommorow, the section goes. No reposts please! --Burning Freebies 21:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments should generally not be removed, hence why I'm guessing it was put back. If you want to take it off the page, archive it to something like Talk:Mursaat Rally 2/Archive 1 and leave a link on this page. -- Brains12 \ Talk 21:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)