Talk:Stunning Strike

Meh elite dazed is owned by non elite. Raptaz 14:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Great skill. Was using hayda with 12 hammer, 11tactics, 8 leadership backbreaker + awe + crushing blow FGJ, WatchyourSelf, Shields up! Soldiers defense, remedy signet She would backbreaker once charged and would ALWAYS use Awe then crushingblow even if it was a warrior foe with no spells. This skill cuts out a few warrior skills and brings hayda back to a more paragon role.--Justice 19:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

what does that have to do with this skill? Justing6 23:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I think he's saying he was running Hayda with a hammer using Awe, then switched her to a spear after he figured out this skill existed. 76.89.81.150 21:30, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Does anyone know if the dazed triggers automatically, if under the influence of Anthem Of Weariness?Sparkman 12:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)Sparky2

It does. Halogod35 06:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Same goes for Anthem of Flame, Poison Tip Signet, and some other apply-on-contact skills. I haven't tested them all, but the two I mentioned do work. Awesome for PVP, esp since not many expect Daze coming from a paragon. --ChristopherRodrigues 20:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I always expect daze from PvP paras atleast in RA/TA. They got 3 skills that daze thats more than most professions got--85.225.130.144 20:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I like this skill a lot on my PvP para but between this and Cruel Spear there isn't much to choose from, I think they should make another para elite that just does pure +dmg for like 5 adren--Ja 15:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

I dont like this skill at all. It takes 10 adrenaline and having no skill whatsoever to pass blocking opponent its a nightmare to get there. You need a another profession(player) to get rid of his enchantments/stances to hit the foe, making this skill useless in almost all arenas. I gotta see the use factor of this skill in PvP arenas.--ShadowFog 03:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Stance removal is hard. There is only one skill that you can open with that will remove a stance (given you have no adrenalin)Wild Blow. If you look at the other non-elite stance removers, then you have Wild Strike(which requires a lead attack to land) and Wild Throw(7 adrenalin). So, at least you have the right skill to get through a stance without taking a secondary. Now for enchant removal, take Rend Enchantments. Now you are self sufficient. Of course you can't have a build that will always work vs all others. StatMan 03:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I think what ShadowFog means is that Rangers have, say, Crossfire, Arcing Shot, Crip-Shot, Magebane Shot, Precision Shot, Seeking Arrows, or Called Shot to deal with blocking enemies. They even have Splinter Shot, which, in PvE, has a use other than just anti-block (not to mention at all Magebane's and Crip-shot's usefulness). Warriors have useful things like Furious Axe, Irresistable Blow and Griffon's Sweep. They've got Pure Strike/Clone, Magehunter Strike, Seeking Blade, Soldier's Strike, Swift Chop, and the relatively-shoddy Warrior's Cunning. Not as good, but still fairly solid. Paragons, on the other hand... have Anthem of Guidance. Which is elite. And requires you to build up adrenaline before using it. Also a few ridiculously-high-adrenaline attack skills. And Swift Javelin, which requires you be enchanted and has so-so recharge. That's it. If you know you're gonna face a ton of blocking, in other words, then you also know that you probably shouldn't bring a paragon at all. Not without designing other characters in your group around helping them - in which case... why bring a para when you could just run a BHA ranger with Seeking Arrows? =/ --76.166.187.131 00:37, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Wild Throw is VERY effective, hint: don't just spam it whenever you can. Blocking can also by waiting it out (hint: spread bleeding around meanwhile). Spear damage pumps out much more solid damage than a bow does and the faster attack speed on spear vs bow as well as rangers lacking strong IAS skills, thus working more effectively with the daze. Also, certain combinations maximise your daze, pressure and damage output to excel that which can be reached by a BHA ranger. But of course, a real ranger would undoubtedly overshadow a paragon in the arenas with better rupts and rez control. Zencow 10:35, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Note

note is redundant. of course apply poison will trigger. poison is a condition.--71.67.243.230 01:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

What it means is that if the target has no condition, but you have apply poison or anthem on and you use stunning strike, the daze will still trigger. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 17:35, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

that is obvious though. it would be more concisive to give a list of condition applying enchants and skills which do not affect this skill rather than that do. 86.157.198.31 10:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

it really isn't obvious, as people have asked the question before. It isn't common knowledge that condition-applying skills apply conditions before you deal attack damage. ~ Chao 19:03, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

That's true, bu most people have to find that out by themselves. So it's not wrong to write that into the note, which I'm going to do for the interrupt on the first hit. -PaterFrog