User talk:Wolfie/Archive 3

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Slaver's Exile -> Slavers' Exile

Ahhh, that's one burr under the skin fixed up at last! Sadly, many contributors will still probably misspell it, so adding to GuildWiki:Misspellings. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 00:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

And hey, I actually got off my lazy butt (figuratively) and helped out! What a surprise! --Shadowcrest 00:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

hehe, thanks for the help, cut down the list I had to do, so that's always welcome! :) --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 00:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You know, I think if you decided to move to GWW, this wiki would fall apart in the S&F category :P --Shadowcrest 00:56, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

No, I think it would be more drastic than that. I think that yes, the S&F would fall apart, but it would fall apart with so much force that this wiki would probably implode --Gimmethegepgun 19:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both for your kind comments, indeed as it happens I nearly did quit GuildWiki (have I fact done very little here for over 4 months!). It was not to join GWW, but rather at being throughly fed-up with the wishy-washy policy making that comes from those appointed to supposedly support and maintain the policies that exist for this wiki. After close to 3 years of near daily contributions to this wiki, guess I expected better. But oh well! I have decided to just care a little less about consistency of applying policies (so what if things are not consistent across the wiki, no-one else seemed to care) and instead stick to what you guys so correctly pointed out, working on S&F is something I can do.

So, onward to see if anything did actually implode while I was away. ;-) Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Cracked Armour

RESOLVED: Policy inconsistency, swings like a pendulum, gave up worrying about it

We actually do use British spelled words, we just don't refer to them as such and turn them into redirects. ♥Thoughtful♥ File:Thoughtful Sig.png (Talk) 03:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Whoops, didn't see your note on the talk page. ♥Thoughtful♥ File:Thoughtful Sig.png (Talk) 03:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

As noted, "Ray of Judg(e)ment" is one of the few rare exceptions, and purely because that's the way is has been spelt in-game (ie, in-game spelling take precedents over the US-english convention). --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 03:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

THAT one is a redirect because if you just sound out the word, you think "Judge - ment -> Judgement!", when in fact it is Judgment (drops the e). It is actually spelled Judgment in the game the way it's supposed to, though Jadoth's Storm of Judgement uses the British spelling for some reason --Gimmethegepgun 03:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Re: Pre Searing Quests

Hello! Well, I had just made a new character, and I was going around rounding up all the quests - except the usual two in Ascalon City were not available. I went through the talk pages of those quests, but I had already done everything that everyone had suggested. Then I remembered some other quests had a level requirement, so I went outside, levelled up and the quests became available. Also, I have considerable experience in terms of the quests for Pre-Searing, and on my other characters (I've made about half a dozen pre-searing characters that got past level 10 and finished all the quests until I got bored and restarted them, lol) I have never had that problem with the quests not being available right after the profession tests (and not completing any other quests). I reasoned from this that it must be something that I was not directly conscious of that triggered the quests - probably the level req, and sure enough, the quests became available at level 2. Sorry if this sounds confusing to you; but if your experience proves the opposite, I'd be glad to conduct tests and take screenshots. Thanks! — Nova File:Neo-NovaSmall.jpg — (contribs) 20:35, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Conqueror of the Titans

Is there really an achievement for this? I can't find it noted anywhere else but under you W/Me character. Rooble0818

That's not actually a title, it's just saying he beat the titans, probably meaning the Titan Quests. --Shadowcrest 14:39, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

well...he presents it like an achievement that can be presented on the Monument of Honor, similar to conqueror of sorrow's furnace. I was just wondering if there was a achievement that could be displayed on the monument of honor. Rooble0818

Well spotted Rooble, hehe I was wondering how long it would take before someone noticed that! :D And correctly answered Shadowcrest, yeah it's not a formal title available in-game (sadly), but at the time when those quests were the "hardest thing" in the game, always felt there should have been some sort of in-game acknowledgment at completing them (this all pre-dated titles back then). Of course, these days we've all moved on to "bigger and better" tasks, but personally I still aspire to getting all my characters through those quests and so keep a track of their progress on the "My Characters" dossiers (time and other "higher priority" in-game tasks willing :). --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 07:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Your "My Characters" Section

^^ this section looks really nice and works really well, it saves lots of space on a userpage but alseo contains all th infomation that you require... di dyou write it yourself?--Cookie™ (Talk |Contribs) 06:30, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Cookie for your comments, it's pleasing to know someone noticed and cared enough to post a comment! As for your question, yes it is all my own work, had a clear idea of what I wanted, as you picked up, something that contained all the interesting stats but without being too cumbersome to navigate or too over-whelming for the casual viewer, drew my inspiration from all over the place and tinkered around with it for months before getting it "just right", but am quite pleased with the results. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 06:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Polymock Arena

RESOLVED: Articles have been cleaned up

I'll take care of the deletion for you, as long as you take care of the linking when you do the move that you are planning on. Special:Whatlinkshere/Polymock_arena 2 articles have links to the page, that will create redlinks when I delete it. Thanks. -- File:Isk8.png I~sk8 (T/C) 01:15, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Yup, already have it planned out, just can't move until that article is out of the way. :) --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

There, DONE! All the Polymock quest articles have been cleaned up, had all their dialogue and a walkthrough added etc, so now you can see what it was all about. FYI, I have done those sorts of moves many times, so am fully aware of the temporary redlink issue, but as I can't do those tidy ups myself, have to rely on someone with delete abilities, hence why had spelt out the plan in the delete notice. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 06:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Vicious Seedling split

RESOLVED: Split remains, as is consistent with other articles of similar situation

Wolfie, the reason no-one's split Vicious Seedling is that current consensus would probably have been aganist that. See Talk:Malfunctioning_Golem, the situation is really very similar. Please consider reverting the split. --mendel 08:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The difference is that the only similarity between the Vicious Seedlings is the name, whereas the Golems also share the same appearance. See Convicted Criminal for a nearly identical precedent. —Dr Ishmael 13:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The name, the description, and the location are similar; the difference is the appearance and the skillset. There are no notes. If someone actually wants to look them up, it'll probably be by name, which means all 3 pages; unless, of course for the mesmer and elementalist types - there the profession is realtively obvious for anyone who's actually played the game. Still, we now have 4 very short articles where before we had one; and what have we gained? Oh well, I'll go edit the disambig page some. --mendel 14:38, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

There's probably little need to be too concerned about "we now have 4 very short articles", there are some 150 disambiguation pages already, so one more is not going to break anything. As for the BeastInfo pages themselves, they're about as complete as any of the majority of other Bestiary articles. If short pages were a concern, I would say there's a vast number of superfluous redirect pages we could be targetting.

As for "what have we gained?", I came across that article while in the process of cleaning up the Uncategorised pages list, when considering what to do about that article, I could either have added the article to all three profession categories, which most definately would have been unprecedented in all the articles I've edited over my years here, and while I was not aware of the example Dr Ishmael quoted, used Stygian Lord as my guide (and have also found Harpy Mother, and Scythe of Chaos, so there's at least four examples), and by splitting they, was then able to assign the appropriate categories to each article individually. So I would say the split was/is in keeping with other previous articles, so should be considered perhaps the split should remain to avoid inconsistencies with how other articles covering similar situations have been done in the past. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:17, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thank you for the explanation. --mendel 05:15, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Wolfie

Welcome back :) --Macros 01:52, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Thx Macros :D Good to see you're still about too. This latest update should breathe some new life back into the game, looking forward to seeing some past players "lured back" into regular playing again <fingers crossed> --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:55, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

*lured back to GuildWiki <fingers crossed> File:Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 02:58, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey Wolfie! Not sure if you remember me, but welcome back!--File:Marcopolo47 signature new.jpg (Talk) (Contr.) 03:27, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, sorry guys and girls, I didn't mean to be rude and ignore your comments, honestly didn't expect anyone else noticed my talk page. As for being "lured back" Entropy, I don't know... am still in two minds on that. On the one hand, I do have some 170 more quests recorded and ready to update the wiki with, but on the other hand, am rather concerned about the (unnecessary, as I see it) changes to the S&F/Quests formatting guides which will undo much of the formatting work I have already done (564 of 858 known quests cleaned up already). It's that and a number of other things recently here which left me despondent about whether all the effort is worth it, or even noticed. I don't know, I just simply don't know. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 23:51, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Look on the bright side, no matter what anyone does ever, everyone will still die anyway.--Łô√ë Fear.îğá†ħŕášħ 23:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

I did respond to your concerns on my talk and still hope we can come to a working agreement. --◄mendel► 00:13, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

If any of your concerns are things which I am responsible for, I'd like to know so I can work to correct them. 170 improved articles is probably more important than anything I've done lately. :p Either way I'd hope you would at least update the GWW articles (or did you do that already?) since it's a lot of hard work to waste! :( File:Entropy Sig.jpg (T/C) 05:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Entropy, dunno if you're still active on GuildWiki (our different timezones meant we rarely were on the wiki at the same time), thank you for the offer, but this was never a user-dispute, rather it was over the changing of the quest S&F standards to what, in my eyes at least (and with many years of publishing experience, like to think I know a little about page format/layout) is a far uglier and harder to read format. Secondly, I was p'ed off over the standard being changed without first at least considering what it would mean for all those 560+ quest articles I'd already cleaned up. While I do still have all those extra 170 recorded quests (more like 200 before I stopped), even if could get support from the community to revert the standard back, I'm not sure if would want to continue the cleanup work anymore. As for GWW, I've not been active there at all (as predicted, it is slowly killing this wiki and it's community), so sadly you're right, all the hard work has gone to waste. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 07:44, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Dialogue layout revisited

Well, see (and comment) at User talk:Tennessee Ernie Ford/Shortcuts#Quotes and Dialogue. --◄mendel► 05:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Plant Fiber

RESOLVED: Changes reinstated

Just to notice as it is the second time my changes are reverted : I've removed Aloe Seed and Large Aloe Seed of Plant Fiber section 'What salvages into it' because Aloe Seed and Large Aloe Seed cannot be salvaged : they'are monsters and not Collectable drops... Alkinor 12:07, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

The drops would be Unnatural Seeds, which are already listed. --- File:VipermagiSig.JPG -- (contribs) (talk) 12:32, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Can see what Alkinor means, both Gimme and I made the same incorrect assumption, the two he's been removing are actually creatures not collectable drops and so should not be listed. Sorry about that, have now corrected the article. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:03, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Oh and Alkinor, just a tip for future edits (and this applies to everyone really), when editted an article, add a brief explanation in the Summary line stating why the change, then far less likelihood of there being confusion like what happened here. :) --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 02:00, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Nice job

Nice work recently powering through various sections of the wiki and making useful changes to the style, clarity, classification, and organization of the articles.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 09:02, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you TEF, yeah from time to time I'll get the "bit between the teeth" as it were, and plough through some of the less "glamorous" house-keeping tasks. Categorisation of article especially can be handy when trying to find something can't remember how it's spelt, don't know where it's located but have a good idea of it's "type". (Also handy for bots, but that's another topic). There's a few others that also have a go at it, over time the Uncategorised pages list will get whittled down. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 05:05, September 28, 2009 (UTC)

Typos?

Could you help me understand what you meant here? Particularly, what do you mean by neat-n-clean? Again, I ask because I fear I might be contributing to a messier wiki. Thanks!   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 08:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

Hi again TEF, sorry for the delay in the reply, will explain why in a moment. What that particular posting was about, was me reaching the point of frustration on a number of things, GuildWiki had over the years, flip-flopped between allowing British-spelling redirects, and actively culling them. Seemed every time I'd try to maintain/enforce the policy, it would be backflipped and I'd be the one getting abused for adding brit-spelling or then for flagging them for deleting. When I tried to get a collective of the then-active editors to once-and-for-all nail down a policy, while a policy document was created, it too kept being changed, until I personally got to a point where just threw up my hands in despair and gave up trying to maintain/enforce the policy one way or the other (was just not worth the energy).

At the time of posting that, I was very p'ed off with one of the newer members who'd (in my eyes) was making wide-reaching policy/S&F changes for little other advantage, than to try and get a name for themselves, to show how "policy-minded" they are, and then put themselves up for Admin status and get their mates to vote in favour for em, or worse get one of their admin-mates to appoint them without any community vote whatsoever (which think is entirely wrong, an admin admins users, so they need to have the community's support first and foremost).

So it was born out of irritation that it seems the wiki had once again backflipped to supporting British-spelling (which personally suits me, but I was at the time trying to maintain the policy), plus I'd watched years of recording / cleaning / editing over 560+ quest articles go up in proverbial smoke some time back, and had been fuming about it ever since. So it was after posting that reply, that I decided to take a prolonged break from GuildWiki. Even though I did eventually return some 6 months later, I tend to only do sporadic clean ups here and there these days, seems no-one gives a damn about consistency of formatting or the page-layout/style of articles any more (if they ever did?). Anyway, the endpoint is that it was not directly specifically at you, but rather at the over decline of article formatting etc. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 07:21, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Cat'ing redirects

Why? They don't have any content. --JonTheMon 13:25, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

G'day Jon, sorry for not replying sooner, unfortunately you posted just after I'd quit visiting GuildWiki for about 6 months so missed your message.

1. Should avoid having uncategoried articles (even if they are just redirects). My theory behind this is, if the article cannot fit into a category, then either (a) need to create a category so similar-topic articles can be grouped together, or (b) need to assess if the article has any use (ie, if article can't fit into an existing category and no need for a new category can be seen, likely the article is of no worthwhile value).
2. In the case you were asking about, was adding Bow redirect articles into Category:Bows, this has the advantage of then anyone viewing that category, sees a more complete list of all the bows available. So they'd see more than just "X Bow", but also "X Longbow", "X Recurve Bow", "X Hornbow" and so on.
3. Useful for batch-editing, let's say it was decided to split the Bows category into "Longbows", "Shortbows" etc (not that I'm suggesting that), by having all the bow related articles in the same category, makes it easier to ensure we get em all.

Hope that explains it for you, thanks for reminding me though, there is still a batch of em missing from the list. Will have to get around to that soon. Regards Wolfie (talk|contribs) 06:27, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I see you've vanquished EotN with your warrior. I need 4 more areas: The trhee Charr Homelands and Jaga Moraine. Before i start with Jaga I'd like ask you if you have any tips/hints for this one, as the vaettir are by far the hardest monsters to kill in EotN.. On the talk page of the area I can only find things like: pull one group at a time. Yea I knew that, but killing them takes so long (I use disord) and I don't want to spend 2 hours on 40 vaettir.. Thanks in advance :) Fleshcrawler Soban 11:40, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Terribly sorry Fleshcrawler Soban for taking so long to get back to you, judging by the timestamp of your post, it was while I was taking a 6 month "break" from GuildWiki (and seems the usual gold "you have new message" thing no longer working for me, or failed caz was away for so long). Thank you for noticing my warrior's progress, to answer your question (though it's probably far too late and you're already Master of the North?), I find intrupt and/or shutdown mesmers are the best way to tame those vaettir. I quite agree with you, they are a hassle, especially for pure-melee chars. So a helping hand from a mesmer for these should do the trick for you. Good luck! --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 05:48, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

A Luxon with a cool Necro

I like you :) File:A F K sig 2.jpg A F K When Needed 09:19, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Um, ok, I'm not quite sure how to respond to that. But, yes I rather like my necro. :D --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 05:38, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Wolfie, The: sets default parameter, sort

Go, Wolfie! Nice work. (PS does this mean the BotWolfie is soon to be created?)  —Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 15:00, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

It started out as spotting 3 recent unique weapon articles which needed the default sort setting, then spotted another one, and found 4 more, and it turned into a much larger task than had planned. As for bots, I gave up trying to get approval for a bot-account years ago, ppl would begin to "froth at the mouth" with the mere mention of using an edit-bot. These days, I just do what clean up work I can, and leave the admin'ing to those with the popularity votes. ;) --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 03:47, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

File:Yes.pngFile:Exclamation.png  —Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:57, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Dunno why u pasted my Tick template here (tried to use {{subst:Tick}} perhaps?), anyway replacing with just the image instead (smaller/cleaner). --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 22:55, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Oops. Thank for cleaning, smalling that up. The icon combo was in reference to, "...to those with the popularity votes." The checkmark is the symbol for a yea on various ballots and the exclamation was to imply that I would vote early and often: File:Yes.png.  —Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 01:28, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

No worries, that subst can be a slippery sucker sometimes, helps when know the structure of what the template does (caught me out earlier today too with the "moved" template; my excuse is it's damn cold here this morning :D) --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 01:34, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Where's Wolfie?

I will not be able to visit GuildWiki as frequently as usual due to a failure of some critical hardware used in my regular web browsing PC. You can continue to post to my talk page if you wish, just be aware it may take a few days for me to respond. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 08:27, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Just posting an update for anyone wondering why I'm not back on active duty for GuildWiki... All attempts to repair my "web facing" PC have been unsuccessful, prognosis: "it's as dead as a doornail". Don't really have much of a budget for a replacement system at this time, as saving up for a new gaming rig and sadly, in recent years have increasingly become less active in running various gaming web sites or contributing to forums, wikis etc. So less imperative to having a constant on-line presence than felt in years past. However, will still check in regularly, keep on eye on what's happening, so post here and I will get back to you within a few days or so. Regards Wolfie (talk|contribs) 23:43, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

snafu (no change, still won't be able to visit regularly). --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 04:09, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Rollback

I've given you rollback rights. It won't hurt to look at GW:ROLL. Cheers! --◄mendel► 15:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Menagerie template

→ moved from User talk:Wolfie/Template/Menagerie

I'm putting it on my page. Thanks! Also, might want to fix your "I'm away" notices. Arnout aka The Emperors Angel 15:59, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hiya Arnout, you're very welcome, happy you found my Menagerie template useful. As you might notice by the tardiness of my reply, sadly the "I'm away" notice does still apply, and likely to for the time being (will post updates under the "Where's Wolfie" section above). Look forward to seeing you add more Ranger pets to your menagerie, happy hunting. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 04:05, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Big changes for GuildWiki

We, the GuildWiki community, have moved the GuildWiki content to a new site at http://www.guildwiki.org. It will maintain the look and feel of GuildWiki that you've been used to, and the majority of our active editors will be shifting their primary editing activity to there. (Read here for more information, including details on how to reclaim your account.)

The current wiki at guildwars.wikia.com will, of course, continue to be hosted by Wikia, and we have some big changes planned for it. Wikia has recently introduced a new user interface to all of its sites that emphasizes community interaction over encyclopedic content, so we're planning to leverage this new style and endeavor to turn GuildWars Wikia into more of a fan community site, promoting fan-created content better than GuildWiki did. (Read here for more information.)

If you are still playing Guild Wars (or would like to do so again), now is a good time to get involved, either on GuildWiki at http://www.guildwiki.org or right here on GuildWars Wikia.

Be sure to pass this info on to all other Guild Wars fans you know!

— The GuildWiki community, represented by Bot ishmael 23:18, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Great! Just what we need, yet another wiki to split the Guild Wars community further. <sigh> As one of the early members to sign up to the original GuildWiki (User ID# 43), who stuck with it even after the upheaval cause by the "sale" to Wikia, the rise of a "rival" wiki, and now it's to be forked into another wiki (the 4th really, GuildWiki, GWwiki, PvXwiki and now this GuildWiki.org); just cannot see that there is enough of a community left to support that many, so inevitably active maintenance of articles will become more and more out-of-sync with what's in the game, the very basic premise of the original wiki's design. Will mull this over a little more before trying to say anything further, 'net access is still patchy so might be a little while before can re-visit. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 00:17, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the GuildWiki community shares your sentiment, but Wikia insists on keeping this fork alive - if they were "just" a webhost, guildwars.wikia.com would now be closed. PvXwiki has moved/forked to gwpvx.com (with the same Wikia caveat), so technically there are 5 Guild Wars wikis now. For the Wikia wikis, the number of page views has dropped to half their pre-October levels. So we're trying to come up with a new premise here, though progress is slow. --◄mendel► 01:49, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Well guess I shouldn't be surprised you'd be part of this mendel, indeed thx, for it made the decision upon where to go next that much easier. Did enjoy my early years contributing to GuildWiki, think on the whole, made a difference. Do wonder if GuildWiki hasn't existed and been so popular in it's day, would the "official" Guild Wars Wiki have been what it is today, or an entirely different and lesser iteration? Speaking of which, that's where have decided to go. While I still wrestle with how ArenaNet (as a commercial company) get to benefit off the unpaid volunteers time and efforts to provide themselves with effectively a free extensive in-game manual, can't deny its a mutually-beneficial arrangement for the GW community as well. So going over to provide what content and support I can. Already spotted quite a few familiar names there, so will be great to meet up with them again. --Wolfie (talk|contribs) 23:33, May 24, 2011 (UTC)