Feedback talk:User/Erasculio/Bring Abaddon back

i like it, good potential for plot, i wouldn't mind if as long as there was a way to help the novice after, cause i would just feel bad :(--BobbyT 14:44, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Chilling. I approve - but I have to wonder what the character gets out of destroying a secret. It'd be pretty cool if you got something neat from Old Man and then later found out "oh shit, he was serious and I just destroyed that girl's life." -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 19:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, the old man gives the characters information about the dragons in exchange for the secret. I guess he could also give some kind of item that would eventually help in killing Zhaitan; it would be interesting if the item were the same regardless of what choice the characters make (so people wouldn't chose based on what they want to get, rather based on the story), but had a different name based on which secret was destroyed (and people would then wonder why they're carrying something called "Novice's Happiness" with them : D). Erasculio 11:04, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Will you have my babies? -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 17:05, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean I can eat them? Thanks : D Erasculio 21:56, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

"all knowledge from being the God of Secrets" seems a bit much. If he was going to return he should still identify with the fact that he once had all that knowledge etc but shouldn't retain it. fragments yes, full-blown knowledge no. For me at least, if he had lost all but mere fragments of what he was prior it might be more of a driving force to correct himself, even just inwardly. lol He may tend to the little garden outside the HoM :P ~~000.00.00.00~~ 13:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

From a storytelling point of view, I think it would work better if he remembered everything. I have stated that he has kept all the knowledge, but it wouldn't be told with all letters to the players; they would be left trying to guess exactly what Abaddon remembers or not. With that in mind, the only way to let people know that he does not remember everything would be by saying it in the game, and I think Abaddon would work better as someone vaguely powerful, without signs of weakness such as admiting he had forgotten some things (besides, even if he had forgotten, I doubt he would just tell that to people).

I don't think he would really try to correct himself. I don't think Abaddon was evil when he became a god; just like Kormir, formerly a "paragon" of virtue, became the Goddess of Truth, if Abaddon had been evil I think he would have become the God of Lies or something like that. If he were cured of his madness, I think he would rather wish to be left alone than try to atone for his sins or do something to actually help people with all his knowledge (such as telling the humans about the dragons). Erasculio 13:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

wasn't abaddon destroyed, though? Or was it just a "fatal" wound, causing him to slink down into the darkests pits of that lair while his power was erupting? ヘペヘヘ аІiсә & ѕνәи

I believe his corporeal form was weakened (good luck doing much more to it as a mortal, tbh) and Kormir afterwards sealed his second banishment or something like. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 22:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I support parts of this idea. Bringing Abaddon back in a positive light is certainly something I support, but for my own reasons. I picture the powers of the god of knowledge being something that inevitably corrupts with unmentionable darkness, and can easily see Kormir and Abaddon eventually needing to take a joint role of goodhood similar to the twin gods Lyssa.

The idea of him being a old man in Tyria isn't bad, even tending a garden not too much of a stretch... but married to the seer? Yeah, I think that crosses the line into the concept of corny. Otherwise, good job.--Ryan Galen 15:19, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

You know... reading this kinda gave me the creeps, because I recently bought EotN, and I expected the storyline to be richer. Anyway, that's not the point, but since I was somewhat disappointed by it, I tried to re-imagine how I would have done it, and here is my plot twist: Turns out Abaddon was imprisoned unjustly. The gods found out he had given Magic to Humans and that displeased them, so they waged war on him, and imprisoned him in the Realm of Torment. Now, in there and being the God of Secrets, he found out about a very important one: The Return of the Dragons. Turns out Abaddon was manipulated by one of the Dragons and Magic was granted to create Chaos; what Abaddon was actually trying to do when attempting to break free from the Realm of Torment was to be able to tell the Five that the Dragons were awakening and that they were going to destroy everything, gods included. Nightfall was just a side-effect of him trying to break free. -- Large 01:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

ArenaNet has told that Abaddon will make his comeback in GW2 - J.P.Talk 01:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Give us a Source, or it never happened.--Will Greyhawk 23:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I say, for all the problems he's caused in elona, let Abaddon rot in whatever abyss he now resides in.--Copper Legray 00:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

One could make the same argument concerning Palawa Joko, but joko's saving grace was that he was funny, in megalomaniac way. Abaddon might have been somewhat funny too if we had ever heard him talk. I mean, come on, "YOU GOT SERVED!" Hilarious. --Ravencroft0 12:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I think the God of Knowledge suffering memory loss would be perfect for this scenario. Teddy Dan, yo. 17:26, 16 January 2011 (UTC)