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I disagree with the reason for deletion; this is clearly not an empty, useless page. --Rezyk 19:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

we need to make the page better, though... it has one line of information and that information is in an unusual format with a negative connotation. The White Mantle tried to sacrifice the "chosen" in order to keep some door closed and keep the Lich from raising all his Titans to ravage the world. The article is so small o.o" hehe oops I didn't sign He Who Likes Arrows 21:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


It might not be the best in the world but I've turned it into a true article, at the very least. He Who Likes Arrows 21:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)


I think the article should have a more neutral view. Maybe it's just me, but it seems to be written in favor of the Mursaat. (Personal opinion: The Mursaat could just as well have destroyed the Titans. Instead they chose a way that'll give them great power. There is nothing positive or benelovent about the way they acted.) --Cp 22:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree it's not neutral enough. And why is it so bad the titans came? They got the Mursaat away and didn't kill too many people either. Etienne 15:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
The mursaat couldn't kill the titans off. if they could, then they wouldn't have gotten killed off by them. And the titans are much worse than the Mursaat. Who did the mursaat/white mantle kill? the people that opposed them... they never killed anyone for the sake of killing. and a 3rd thing, it was recently that the mursaat were found out, by a drunk man stumbling through the forest. The titans? they would burn the forest. they would burn the villages. they would make the world into ascalon. Tearh 20:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The Mursaat/White Mantle killed the Chosen, those who possess magical abilities. What did they ever do to deserve eternal torment?
Perhaps the Mursaat aren't powerful enough. Doesn't make them nice guys, though. I seriously doubt they even tried, seems to me they took the easy way out.--User Cyberman Mastermind Sig.gif Cyberman 15:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Eh, any lore you make up yourself will not be canon and thus not included in the article. Backsword 15:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


Shouldn't we put the fact that the players are Chosen in the article? Chilli 07:44, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

But we weren't Chosen, we were simply picked to drag around the Eye looking for the Chosen. Silavor UserSilavorSigIcon.png 22:53, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Aren't we told at some point that we're all, as players, chosen? --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 22:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Vizeir McOrrPants says something to that effect on the 'on the boat' cutscene at the end of Sanctum Cay. --Star Weaver 23:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah yes, now I remember. PCs, the master race (haha, I made a funny) --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 00:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
He means we are chosen to Ascend, not be sacrificed on a bloodstone, which is what this type of chosen means :P Silavor UserSilavorSigIcon.png 11:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Er, I thought that Vizier was making the point that the players are probably also blessed with whatever capacity for "true sight" that the mursaat fear. I think the whole point of killing the ones that are chosen by the eye of creepiness is to prevent them from doing what the player does?
The preceeding comment was from me, a couple days ago. Oops. --Star Weaver 04:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
The Mursaat may have misinterpreted the Flameseeker Prophecies, and just started waving around a people scanner and abducted them for the sake of containing the titans. I WILL NOT CONTRADICT MYSELF! Chosen might have meant Ascended people, or people that glint likes, or people with bald heads. Did you also notice how the shiny pyramid did NOT knock you down? Tearh 20:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Chosen = Fit to complete Ascension. The Eye of Janthir didn't knock the player and their party down perhaps because they are also much more? Being able to do what the player does in the other campaigns has to have some prerequisites. Paddymew 16:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
Yep the way I saw the storyline... we are also choosen and choosen = able to assend... the Viz let it all drop at the sanct cutscene MrPaladin talk 16:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

true sight[edit]

becomming able to see the mursatt? so yout tellin me a player run to droks cant see the mursatt when he goes to Ice caves? I don't think it applies from a game standpoint... MrPaladin talk 16:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

A player running to Sanctum Cay from Lion's Arch will suddenly find him/herself allied with the Shining Blade, while having the White Mantle chasing you for no apparent reason. And even more confusion if you are from Cantha or Elona. Paddymew 22:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)