Talk:Expel Hexes

Comparison to New Hex Removal

I know this had its place in the game once, and is still often used by Ritualists, but is this skill still as useful as it once was considering we know have so many better hex removal skills now? Cure Hex, Divert Hexes, Spotless Mind or even the bugg to Remove Hex to name a few...Dancing Gnome 02:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Cheaper than DHex, for slightly less effect. Removes twice as many hexes as Remove Hex, removes hexes much faster than Spotless Mind, and removes more hexes and recharges faster than Cure Hex, albeit without the heal. I'd say it's fine as-is. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:05, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Well considering DH severely outclasses this skill and the other hex removal are ALMOST as good, in some cases just different, I would think it's a little weak. The only thing this skill has going for it is you get its full effect with no attributes, but at the cost of an elite I would rather bring Remove Hex. Dancing Gnome 03:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Remove hex is totally worthless against any covered hex, whereas Expel Hexes is not. Removing 2 hexes at once is exponentially more powerful than removing a single hex. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Never thought of it that way! Now I finally see use for this! thanks. 84.27.170.207 18:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Consider using this on a Rit like I did, its freking amazing since Rits have absoutely no hex removal and way too many Condition removal. that and this still is really good because its cheap and does a really good job for something that does not require any attribute.

Yeah, I seriously doubt you would want this on a Mesmer primary, unless you are going for a fast cast monk or something. But this is two Remove Hexes rolled into one. What happens when your foe sees you remove a cover hex? They put it right back on while you are waiting for your Removal to recharge. This way you stay on top of them, forcing them to either abandon hexing you directly, or use a little more expensive and slower recharging hexes to cover the cover. FleshAndFaith 00:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

P&H

This skill could use a slight buff now, don't you think? Yeah its still powerful for secondaries, but P&H completely outclasses this now. (I never thought I would see the day I got to say that about P&H) Kelvin Greyheart 21:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe increase the recharge and make it remove all hexes? Hexway can use some more counters. Or make it 2...3...3 in a random Mesmer attribute (other that fast casting). 145.94.74.23 12:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The focus needs to be on making non-elite hex removal match the power of non-elite hexes. As soon as holy veil is as powerful as (but not more powerful than) Faintheartedness and Parasitic Bond, hexes will be balanced. Elites were always fine for dealing with hexes. If you knew you were going to face a hex build, divert + purge + convert did the job. The problem is beating a hex build with a non-specced balanced, and that problem will never be addressed by making niche elites to counter hexes and only hexes. PnH was a nice idea, but it's elite and doesn't heal at all, so it doesn't see play unless you have entirely too many monks on your team. -Auron 12:08, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

well this is not bad for a smiter Roflmaomgz 18:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Common?

This skill is commonly used by Mesmer secondaries in PvP to remove both the cover hex and the covered hex

I think the note should stay like this. It's the same format other notes use, and the fact that it's common for people to take a mesmer secondary to use this skill seems very notable to me. -Woopdeedoo 16:51, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, at one point it was used for that, particularly on Paragons, but it's kinda, right now, saying to me that someone with a Mesmer secondary would take this, as opposed to having an open elite and secondary and taking this. --JonTheMon 16:55, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

We dont know how often is used in PvP or if even used in PvP. We could have tell is used in PvP if it was a PvP version other than that we dont know how often or is even used in PvP. If other notes have opinions like this, feel free to fix them. Base the notes of facts and not on opinion.--ShadowFog 16:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, after thinking about it a bit more, I decided that you're right. I'm reverting my edit. -Woopdeedoo 17:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I see someone beat me to it. Never mind then. -Woopdeedoo 17:02, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Yepyep, you're welcome. Feel free to change that to make it sound a little better if you want, but I figured that would suffice. ~ Ryuu Desu [Talk | Contributions] 17:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)