Talk:Life Bond

So... where does this first show up in Elona? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Thulsey .

I'm not sure, but it's cappable from Banor Greenbranch. -- Gordon Ecker 04:19, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

On Banor's page life bond is not there, maybe it would be wise to remove him ??

Removing the note saying this works well with blessed signet, as all maintained enchantments do, not just Life Bond. ~ Chao 10:14, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Is the redirected damage armor-ignoring, or does it use your armor rating, or does it use the bonded's AR? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.189.121.185 (talk) at 14:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC).

Dual Bonders?

What would happen if two monks maintained this on each other? Paddymew 10:44, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

This is exactly what I was thinking, if two characters maintained this on each other, and one of the two characters took damage, would the damage bounce back and forth? 80.225.139.196 16:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Then again, it could work exactly like Pain Inverter on Duncan, and not bounce infinitely. Could be fun to have two literally invincible monks though :) Paddymew 22:14, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

It can't bounce at all. The redirected damage from Life Bond isn't an attack, and this skill only works with damage from attacks. 72.94.21.136 06:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

No, it works with any damage. -~=Sparky (talk) 07:16, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Reread the description. – Emmett 07:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

"Attacks". Still, the source of the damage is an attack, the damage is just being redirected. Though I don't think it will work that way in-game. Paddymew 19:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

What would happen if this was used by two 55 monks, using Protective Spirit? Is the damage split and reduction from Life Bond worked out before the protective spirit's reduction? I was wondering as combined with Balthazar's Spirit and Spirit Bond, two 55 monks could split reduced damage, gaining Energy for every hit on the team AND be healed for it, leaving masses of mana for smiting. Please lemme know. Chibot2000 23:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

No. This is because Essence Bond won't trigger, only Balthazar's Spirit. So no, you won't get masses of energy. But just an other question, why is the damage type typeless? Why isn't that redirected also? This doesn't make sense to me. F. C. Sauër 15:43, 29 January 2010 (UTC)

If it wasn't typeless, effects like Mantra of Flame would trigger twice. Paddymew 17:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Why would it trigger twice? You will only gain one damage package, so it would only trigger once, if the attack was fire damage. F. C. Sauër 12:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

It would trigger once for the primary target, and once for the bonder. That would mean that the bonder only received ~12,5% of the total damage, instead of ~25%, and both bonder and bonded would gain energy.Paddymew 17:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

If both guys take damage, and both guys have Mantra of Flame, then they should get both the energy. What is the problem about that? And still, the bonder normally gets 50% damage, reduced by a lot if you have high protection prayers. So mostly, that will result in none damage anyway. And if the guy takes damage, it will be very little, so the reduction of skills like Mantra of Flame will be like 2 damage. So again, what is the problem? F. C. Sauër 19:55, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure you understand. This wiki does not contain normative information, it contains descriptive information. And why should ANet bother with this if it doesn't cause any problems? Paddymew 20:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

I know that ANet has no need to bother about it when it isn't causing problems, but I don't understand why they didn't redirected the type of damage done in the first place. That would make, like said before, much more sense. Ans yes, you could gain some more energy then. Would that be a real problem? Monks barely got energy skills anyway. Most of them are in Smiting Prayers, but they are no good to a Protection monk. F. C. Sauër 20:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Typed damage usually does not ignore armor. This way, there is also a greater emphasis on the fact that the monk makes a sacrifice. A martyr rarely survives, and this causes less problems. Paddymew 20:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

Good points. I agree with you. Though I still wonder what real problems it would cause if the damage would be typed. F. C. Sauër 11:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

In late reply to clear up the point; "If both guys take damage, and both guys have Mantra of Flame, then they should get both the energy." Whilst that point is true, look at it from a different perspective. Let's say the first monk would take fire damage while the other bonder is out of range. If the damage of Life Bond was not untyped, it would be of the same type of the original damage (in this case fire damage). This would cause the Mantra of Flame on the bonder monk (who is, again, not in range to be struck by the original damage) to trigger. This would allow infinite energy pools and so the damage dealt by Life Bond is untyped. (Only to avoid such abusings.) Hope this clears things up. - Infinite - talk 08:23, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

In another late reply; making the damage typed allows Essence Bond to benefit from the damage, which would make it ridiculously easy to maintain Protective Bond on a bonded character. 11:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Adrenaline

Does the damage redirected to the Life Bond caster give the caster adrenaline? It's been awhile since I've played the game, and can't really test this anytime soon.... ~ ín§ídíou§420 17:45, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

No it doesnt, however if enchanted with "balthazar's spirit" each packet of damage gives 1/25 of a strike of adrenaline so every 25 hits thats one strike of ardenaline (not very effective) i dont have an account so this will show up as unsigned.