The books Starless Night and Siege of Darkness by R. A. Salvatore feature the subterranean city of the Drow, the Dark Elves. In one of these books, the readers play witness to an unending power struggle in the city. At some point in one of these books (Siege of Darkness, I think), a Drow House Mother named Kyorl Odran is murdered whilst praying to the Spider Goddess for power. It may be a point of trivia that Lord Odran could be in reference to House Odran from this series. Also, when Kyorl Odran was murdered, her house lost all favor with the Spider Goddess, much the same way the Lord Odran lost favor with the gods of Tyria in Guild Wars mythology. Interesting stuff. Thoughts? - Ara ~ A R A ~ 02:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- May I ask, aside from the name are Lord Odran and Kyorl Odran the same? First, by your wording, Kyorl Odran was female, Lord Odran is male. Second, the only connection you made aside from name is the last sentence of what you said - "when Kyorl Odran was murdered, her house lost all favor with the Spider Goddess, much the same way the Lord Odran lost favor with the gods of Tyria in Guild Wars mythology." - however, the favor of the gods of Tyria was not lost, from what we know, at all. It is not mentioned the gods ever favored Odran, nor is it mentioned that he lost favor. All it mentions in regards to his death is that ghosts learned how to interact with material things once more - i.e., they were able to do more than simply go through Odran - and thus killed him. So, where is the connection because I don't see it. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
- Due to the lack of known portals by Odran in Cantha and Elona, I would say they meant world. Not to mention the world of Guild Wars is that of a multiverse, not just a universe. Also, it is said that the gods, among other beings like the Forgotten, came from other worlds and left to other words, so there are bound to be other worlds. All we have seen is Tyria, the Rift, and where ever the Underworld, Fissure of Woe, and Realm of Torment are (it is possible the realms of the gods are in the Rift, but that is unknown). -- Konig/talk 09:24, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Was Odran a chronomancer?
It says in the first line that he studied temporal distortions, i.e manipulation of spacetime. This would match the description of the chronomancer. It also makes sense why chronomancers were never implemented since they would've been impossible to balance, considering this guy could open up portals to the Rift, which he could then enchant so that only he could go through them. Gobberpooper 19:37, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
- Odran focused on portals, Chronomancers focus on time manipulation (not necessarily space-time). I highly doubt Chronomancers were planned in Prophecies, since not even Ritualists and Assassins were. Konig/talk 21:40, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
Lord Odran's powers outside Gods' Influence?
I'm just speculating here, but could it be that Lord Odran, like the Mursaat, has powers that exist outside of what the Gods gave the humans? Bahltek said he was searching for a magical object "They belonged to a most effulgent mage from an exceptionnaly advanced civilization. He was able to traverse through multiple planes of existence, some of which predate the one you currently call your native soil." We can assume that Lord Odran is this mage. If that is so, the civilization he is from is not only human, but they have magic as well. And by magic, I mean magic that may be outside the Gods' influence, in particular given the manipulative effect of his magic: Namely traversing space-time. No other human on Tyria can even get close to this level of magic. We already know beings like Balthazar could fashion portals, as GW2 tells us. Maybe Lord Odran is from the same civilization as the Gods. Maybe there are multiple human civilizations out there, as Bahltek put him into perspective as from an "exceptionally advanced civilization" meaning a different one from his (being Bahltek's). We can already say that Bahltek doesn't seem to be from this world; although I could be wrong in that regard. So the end conclusion I can come up with is that there may be multiple human civilizations out here (at least 3, including Tyria), and that it is very likely Lord Odran holds powers that the Gods cannot control. Any thoughts? Thanks! EvianaMist 2200 18 November 2011