Template talk:Heroes nav

proposed template

It does take up more space but I like Keiran listed in the "Beyond" section better. --Ravencroft0 12:38, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

IMO there's no real point listing him as a Beyond hero if he's the only one. Since it technically isn't a real campaign anyway, I think we should just leave it with GW:EN. --Santax (talk · contribs) 14:11, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Core isnt just one campaign. I think we should add Mox and Keiren under A.A.E.N meaning, Added After Eye of the North. Though its whatever, it doesnt bother me. - Lucian Shadowborn 20:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Ravencroft. A Beyond section would fit for Keiran. You could throw Mox in there too, even though he isn't technically from Beyond, his quests and the later trial are step in the War, so he sort of qualifies.-- Pyron Sy 20:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Lumping Keiran in with the GW:EN Heroes is misleading. It makes it seem like you only need GW:EN and you'll be able to get him. And M.O.X. being Core is also misleading, since "Core" implies that you only need one campaign to get him. Why not just make the fourth category "Other" and put Keiran and M.O.X. in it? 70.130.35.66 06:43, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it seems simpliar that way. Besides, if there any other heroes added to GW, we can add them to Other. - Lucian Shadowborn 06:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, if necessary we can separate the "Other" category into smaller sub-categories (like "Beyond" and "Multi-campaign") similar to how the Miniature navbox is organized. That is, if more Heroes are added in the future. Fabala011 15:51, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, have Other as the link.. on that page have a disambiguation, linking to Beyond and Core. - Lucian Shadowborn 16:55, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

this is what I did. You guys like? - Lucian Shadowborn 18:24, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't like this format: it's too hard to find an individual hero. The navbar should be easier to, erm, navigate. Within rows, I would prefer to see the heroes listed alphabetically. And as for classification, it's misleading to say that e.g. Olias is a NF hero; you also have to own Prophecies. I'd prefer to see the rows sorted as, "NF, EotN, and multiple-campaigns".  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:21, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I don't mind the way it's sorted but I did change to what you like. Also added more to the Other page. - Lucian Shadowborn 21:08, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Much better in the rows, and I like the addition of Olias and Zenmai into "other". It adds a bit more clarity, to me. G R E E N E R 23:06, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Looks clearer to me, as before it could easily be misleading to newer wiki users. It also has the capability of growth, meaning if more heroes get added to the Beyond content (which I'm betting they certainly will) we can just add them in. Once Beyond is (generally) complete we can sort out any category issues when we cross that bridge.--Neithan Diniem 02:16, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I know this will prob not get passed but I changed the template color, to me it looks cleaner. I do know the original color was to match npc colors but oh well. - Lucian Shadowborn 02:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Reason is that now it matches hero pages it links to. - Lucian Shadowborn 03:14, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I could already hear the trolls comming

adding their own hero to this XD --The Holy Dragons 23:40, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

WoC Update

Miku and Zei Ri do not require any other campaigns. You can obtain them just by having Factions. They should be split into a new "Factions" sub-section. MithTalk 23:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

For the most part, wiki treats Beyond as its own campaign - so for consistency sake it should either return to "other" or be turned into "Beyond" with Keiran moved. Konig/talk 00:02, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

We are still inconsistent. On item pages, we consider WoC to be its own campaign (with good reason imo). Elsewhere, we treat Beyond as a campaign. Regardless, for me, the issue is more than what unlock key did you have to buy, it's also which storyline do you have to finish. I'm okay with lumping the three newest heroes into Beyond for the purposes of this template. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 22:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Most heroes are in nightfall and eye of the north, and then you have 'cross-campaign'(Olias, Zenmai, M.O.X.), 'core' (Mercenaries), Beyond WiK+HotN (Keiran), and Beyong WoC (Miku, Zei Ri). In total, the entries for these are still just 7, so I'm partial to just lumping them all together into "Other". I started this because the page for the list said "cross-campaign", but the nav said "Other". MithTalk 01:11, 15 February 2012 (UTC)