User talk:Judas/Armor Issues

Wait, so you're saying that elemental resistance @ 12 (40 - 14 = 26) doesn't have any penalty at all? And would the same hold true to ER @ 0 + Armor of Salvation? (40 - 24 + 10 = 26) --JonTheMon 12:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

er, nevermind, it's early in the morning lol. I'll ponder this further. --JonTheMon 12:57, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Different armor values for elemental and physical :) udas 12:58, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

What would be cool is if you could have 2 stances, then having both ER and PR would give you +40 for physical and elemental, canceling out each other's penalties :D (@ 12 of course). udas 12:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Does ER/PR penalty occur before or after the armor cap? Also, if a single source that goes over the cap is combined with a lesser source and then you also add ER/PR what happens? Like, say 30AL + 15 AL - 10AL? Does it take 45 - 10 and then leave it at 35 AL or cap it at 25? Or does it take 30 - 10 and leave you at 20? --JonTheMon 13:34, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Neither :D. All +armor is added together. In this case 30+15=45. Then ER/PR check to see if their penalty will lower that bonus to +25 or lower. In this case, -10 will lower +45 to +35, so not low enough. This means the penalty from ER/PR does not function. Now the armor cap comes into play, and lowers the +armor to +30 (the highest single effect). udas 13:38, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Healing signet

Willing to check out other skills that decrease armor? --JonTheMon 15:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I have tested 4: Healing Signet, Barbed Arrows and Elemental and Physical Resistance. I believe the only other skill that reduces armor is Shadowy Burden. I have not tested that yet, but it is on my list. But first I'm writing a couple of articles. I'll get around to it soon though. udas 15:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

No rush. just curious. --JonTheMon 15:53, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

In case you are still curious, I tested Shadowy Burden today. Pretty difficult to test all the factors. Luckily I have two accounts so I could scrimmage to control both armor and damage parameters. Shadowy Burden acts like Healing Signet and Barbed Arrows, subtracting its armor penalty after all calculations. I also found two new skills to test that decrease armor, Aggressive Refrain and Soldier's Fury. In the meantime, my research on categories of skill bonuses and penalties is here. udas 22:58, 3 July 2011 (UTC)