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Looks clean

*looks around* nice clean page ... well not anymore. spam! --Kakarot Talk 17:01, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Fine, I am taking these away :P --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 17:04, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you rather a welcome template by someone or a rickroll by someone else to start it off? --Kakarot Talk 17:07, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
I would rather have Y0's Pi*s Off template, but Y0 doesnt likek me enough I guess *sniff* --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 17:09, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Aww, don't want a welcome template from me? :( — Eloc 01:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Javascript

This worked for me:

addOnloadHook(function () {
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "Special" || wgCanonicalNamespace == "Guild Wars Wiki" || wgCanonicalNamespace == "ArenaNet" || wgCanonicalNamespace == "Help" )
        return;  // don't display link for certain pages

    url = wgServer + "/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=" + wgPageName;

    addPortletLink("p-tb", url, "Block logs for this user", "pt-logs");
});

Hope it helps. -- AT(talk | contribs) 21:37, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 21:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey - that snippet above was a bit rushed (I had to catch a bus), so I went back and tweaked a little. I'll go through it by step, as you seem to have a few confusions :)
addOnloadHook(function () {
    if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "User" && wgPageName.indexOf("/") == -1 ) {
       url = wgServer + "/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=block&user=&page=" + wgPageName;
       addPortletLink("p-tb", url, "Block logs for this user", "pt-logs");
    }
});
"if ( wgCanonicalNamespace == "User" && wgPageName.indexOf("/") == -1 )"
This, as you may have guessed, just checks if you're on a userpage. The two conditions are separated by the '&&' operator. This designates an AND command - the statement only returns true if both conditions evaluate as true. You were using if statements separated by semicolons before - what you really needed was the '||' operator, or OR, which evaluates as true if either condition is true. The "indexOf("/") == -1" section checks to see whether the page is a subpage. The indexOf function returns the index of a character in a string - if the character isn't present, it returns as -1, so this conditional is checking for the "/" symbol. Hopefully that's helped a bit more than just chucking code or documentation at you, but if you already knew it and I'm being unintentionally condescending, sorry! -- AT(talk | contribs) 23:38, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, I learned something new today lol :D. I am not a JS expert, I just know enough to do little things; so I appreciate the help :o) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:14, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

status thingy

:D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 21:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

also, wanted to tell you i was gonna remove it once you got it to work on ie and ff :) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.jpg 21:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Two for the price of one?

you had to have the last word? well, STOP means STOP.. not hit me twice more :P --Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 22:10, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Aww you should of done this Wyn BAM!!! --Kakarot Talk 22:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
hehe Kak is funny :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 22:14, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
hey, look, queit button!--Sum Mesmer GuyTalk to me NOW!! DO IT! contribs 06:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

say wha?

I check what was linked there, it told me there was nothing that linked to the file.... o.O --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 01:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Links to User:Smurf/List. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:00, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
....I'm looking at something wrong then. I'll purge my cache and see if that clears it up. damn me and my impulsiveness >.< --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
You clicked the one in the toolbox (on the left side of the screen), right? --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
well, I added Shadow's new orphaned images box. clicked that, saw the first one on there, wanted to test deleting, tagged, reverted. so yes, I guess.... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned image box? That sounds different. Is it like GWWT? Then I might be interested. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
well, its an unused images toolbox (don't know if that makes a difference >.<) but yeah, it was interesting. its pretty much like GWWT, but it just adds a link to the toolbox. I'll see if I can find the link again..... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh, to the toolbox. See, I have a shortcut on my page that makes my time well spent as well. I don't really need in the toolbox, but I might try it later. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
hmm...interesting. I think I'll keep the toolbox :P. but to ec, I purged the cache several times, and for the page that got reverted, its still saying the image is linking to no where..... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
*raises hand* Mrs. Shadowpheonix, I don't know how your magical box works, or how it might be hindering Traveler! --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) (Reset indent) I pointed the Venerable Mantid Pincer article to the image. Someone help me, I can't get any less smug. Is this something I should use webMD for? As for the rest of that page, "I shall perform the necessary heroics. First, I shall need some inspirational music..." --Chaiyo Kaldor talk contribs 02:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

that or I'm just going blind and not seeing something >.< --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Reminds me of House --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
which I am ironically watching right now :D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:22, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
You made me turn around in my seat and check the clock. It's here in a few hours. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:23, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
season 3 DVD's ftw :) --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:26, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi five! I also got season 3 on Grey's Anatomy as well. Though I want to start collecting Scrubs DVDs too. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:39, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
sadly, I only have season one of scrubs so far :(. but I'm getting the first season of burn notice soon. gotta love them spies :P --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I saw the season finale of that one, but I didn't get into it on time. Looks nice, and I like the narrating.--TalkPeople of Antioch 02:49, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
the narrating style is pretty unique, which is what got me into it :P. But I hope to get more of the seasons soon, I'm starting to run out of episodes >.<. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 02:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Also, do you watch Amsterdam? I like the feel of the show and its interesting character who can never die unless he finds his true love. --TalkPeople of Antioch 02:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

hmmm....I don't think I've heard of that show. I'll see if it airs where I'm located. It sounds pretty interesting. --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 13:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Wow, way to ninja Shadowphoenix's talk page, People of Antioch =P — Eloc 16:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Oooooo I know what will cheer me up! Archive time :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 16:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Navbar helpz

Hey just compltely screwed up my navbar (although it looks pretty cool)...I cant think of what part of the coding I screwed up, any help?User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 20:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

{{/userpage}}

I have found this to likely be more of a deterrent to people stealing your page outright. Though I know you release your work openly, this will intercept those simply copying and pasting your page as theirs. Revert it if you want, though it does the same job as your other one. --TalkPeople of Antioch 04:35, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

hmm, thanks. One of these days I will add a link to the actual template for ppl to use :P --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 04:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Hm, I also need to find out how all this "if exist" stuff works. I really want to make some templates myself. --TalkPeople of Antioch 04:54, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
What are some base templates you use? I'd like links to them and little tutorials if you can spare the time. --TalkPeople of Antioch 04:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Mine are based off of Lensor's template and I modifyied it to my liking. My user page is one big table, with a ton of templates in it. I am confused as to what you want me to do, do you want me to make a draft user page for you or provide you with the proper coding? If you were wanting my base template, I really have not made it yet (you know a blank template for anyone to use) at current I just use this, but I am planning to provide a blank template for other user to use soon. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 05:03, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Why do you care, and why do you need to comment?

My request for some wikichu help was to poke. I don't understand why you feel the need to comment on it? I'm sure if he wanted the request on that page, he would have said so.--Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 16:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Calm down I was just trying to help. Don't get mad at me because I said something, I know what that page was for an I figured that it may have needed to be mentioned there. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 16:29, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Userbox failure

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this but its too clean for my liking :). Any way I managed to screw up my navbar again...when you get the chance, any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I can't see where my ingenous.. (..ly awful) coding whent wrong.User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 20:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't see anything wrong with it (other than u got the colors mixed up) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 20:44, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, Just fixed it and I think the colors may be better. I don't know...the necro color is gross but I'll play with it see if I can find anything more attractive to the eye. Sorry for defieling the nice clean talk space :) :PUser Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 21:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Necros in general are gross -elviondale (tahlk) 21:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
=O How dare u! --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 21:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
GASP*! Take it back!User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 21:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)21:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) How did u catch that extra = on the archiving page?!?!! Amazing!User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 21:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Whats the {} code for hyperlinking something to normal wikipedia.org?User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 21:52, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
At ur first question huh? Your second, [<url goes here> <name>]--Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 22:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Alternatively, for Wikipedia, you can use [[w:Article name]]. --Pling! \ Brains12 \ Talk 22:01, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks guys (and gal), both worked effecively. What was the whole first question second question thing shadow, I was a little confused :)User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 22:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
She didn't know what you meant about the Guild Wars Wiki:Archiving thing, taking out the extra = on the header. One can usually tell because of the different header styles, and the = that will be next to that title. --Pling! \ Brains12 \ Talk 22:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Ah that makes it much more clear. I know how she found it but she must really be on the prowl/lookout for those minute coding errors! lol that was a nice catch.User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 22:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Shadow, any advice on archiving my talk page? I want to create a archive box but the guide for archiving is a little confusing.User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 23:18, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Confusing? Mind pointing out where so I can fix it? :) Ok what part do you need help with? --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 23:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Ty it looks so much cleaner! or was that you?User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 23:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Fixed the archive on impulse..... o.O --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 23:47, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) NVM got ninja'd by traveler which I really appreciate so no worries :)User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 23:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)23:50, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

yeehaw! :D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 23:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

*Sigh...*

Looks like ol' Mgrinshpon is back up to his old tricks again.... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 00:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

That dastardly cuntsa-owait. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴɖɩđđɭɘş User Grinshpon blinky cake.gif 00:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

GWW:NOTICE

moved from Guild Wars Wiki:Admin noticeboard

Honestly, it's not vandalism and it's not on a major page. Leave it be. Lord Belar 00:38, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

It does depict an illegal act, and a sexual one at that. Does that go against policy? Ah, found it. According to user pages policy:
These are absolutely not permitted in any form:
  • Libel or defamation.
  • Material patently offensive to others, including ArenaNet's competitors.
  • Material in breach of the wiki's policies or the game's terms and conditions.
Where in line 3 of the rules of conduct states that:
3. You may not use sexually explicit, harmful, threatening, abusive, defamatory, obscene, hateful, or racially or ethnically offensive language. --TalkPeople of Antioch 01:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
You know, that is the only good thing that came from the last discussion about it. Now we can show proof that it's not a matter of opinion, and in doubt we can always ask anet what they think about such content on the wiki :).--Fighterdoken 01:28, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm? Point me in the direction of this last discussion, please. --TalkPeople of Antioch 01:41, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Erh, i am sorry, i don't think i can come up with only one link to where the discussion took place. Admin noticeboard archive, my talk page, Shadowphoenix archive, grinch, gww:user, and someone from the anet staff i can't remember right now Emily's talk page about how/if the RoC where applicable on the wiki (they haven't actually given a proper answer there, lazy legal department :P).--Fighterdoken 01:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Sig line

Did you know you have lonely spelled wrong in your sig line? --Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 17:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

hehe yes I do, i did it for the funnies. But thanks for fixing my errors in that I was typing fast so I didn't realize :P --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 17:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
XD, I never noticed that. — Eloc 18:07, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Arbcomm

I would advice you to limit yourself to provide the information bcrats request about the case from now on. If you remember anything about previous cases with conflictive users (be it on the arbcomm or admin noticeboard), you should know that they attract the attention of other users who enjoy discussing more that what is healthy, and that are not really known for listening to others opinions.
To make it short, don't feed the trolls. If you really feel like contributing to the arbcomm, help providing links to past events as Auron requested, and avoid discussing the merits of the case.--Fighterdoken 18:20, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

And now her talk page is too serious.User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 21:49, 7 May 2008 (UTC)


Vandalism

Just wanted your definition of "vandalism"User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 01:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Deliberately mischievous or malicious destruction or damage of a wiki page, creating a page to get on others nerves etc. Why? --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Making usre I'm not doing it :) lmao.User Xxx Corn Xxx sig.pngXxx Corn Xxx 01:47, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
lol, just make sure other ppl like what u r doing b4 u start doing it; discuss first edit later ;o) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:48, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[1]

It is because it is a conversation about you, not a conversation with you. There is a difference. You are not the center of the world. Lord Belar 04:26, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and if those people cared about you seeing, they would talk on msn or by email. Lord Belar 04:27, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
idc, I am not the center of the world, but if u have somthing to say, then say it don't pull crap like that Belar. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 05:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Do we have a problem here? Dominator Matrix 05:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I can handle it atm, ppl just need to learn that if they have something to say then they need to say it to my face (so to speak). If it starts to spiral I will simiply ignore it. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 05:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
You're retarded.
Is that to your face'ish enough? -- Mini Me talk 17:29, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
lol, yep ;o) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 20:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

:D

Having fun yet? Need a cookie? --Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 06:31, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Haha, Im fine; had some issues with where stuff needed to go, but aiiane helped me with that :) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 06:32, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Btw.. you can leave off the Energy +10 or Energy +12 as that is covered for the entire page in the header box.--Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 06:35, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Ok, I will take that off :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 06:36, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
I wasn't gonna mention it :P--Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 06:49, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
Well I did make the page at what 1 maybe 2am so I have an excuse lol --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 06:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
*Random drive by spamming..... * Isk8 07:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ping

Pong? -- AT(talk | contribs) 08:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

looks good, but might I suggest changing it to where the default version has all of the words (like French) in the language for instance instead of French have Français? --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 08:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Good idea, changed it. -- AT(talk | contribs) 08:47, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
And maybe we could offer that page in the default languages? I could take care of that if you would like.... --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 08:49, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't suggest using this in any way, shape, or form. Machine translation is, at best, ugly and more often than not incomprehensible, especially between syntactically dissimilar languages like English and Chinese or Japanese. Indo-European languages seem to come out somewhat better, but it's very, very far from perfect; i.e. a human being can pick out a simple spelling mistake like 'teh', machine translation cannot. Kokuou 08:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it's not perfect. But it's a stop-gap, and no-ones forced to use it. If it helps a few users, then great. If not, then it only took half an hour, no big deal. I agree on the dodgyness of machine translation - my original idea was to translate pagenames, and have those link to the appropriate wiki in the native language. But I couldn't find a way round it. :( -- AT(talk | contribs) 08:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Also, feel free to add those translations SP. -- AT(talk | contribs) 08:57, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
@Kokuou, it is a completely optional tool; I find ArenaNet in the wrong for not providing this wiki in other languages (I assume AT does as well). This tool may not have a perfect translation, but it could be helpful for some users; at least in a somewhat small way.
@AT, I will get right on that :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 17:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't find them in the wrong at all. It would be nice to have, but they're not obligated to do it. It'd just be a bonus. -- AT(talk | contribs) 17:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, imho, if they want to have an international game then they need to provide equal resources to everyone; not just the ones who speak english. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 17:39, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Character template

Ok, I made the changes you asked me for, plus I simplified the template code considerably. See Shadow's page. --Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 17:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch Wyn :D --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Oh... I also made a couple of other small modifications, one to your nav bar, to make them evenly spaced, and on to your userpage to drop it below your status box so the nav didn't conflict.--Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 20:19, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed that as well; Thanks! --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 20:20, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Your Page

i hope you dont mind me saying (i saw your post on my friends page) but your page is sooo cool, i love how u laid it out, how did u do that??? its sweet! Brendan 01:44, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it is simply a modifyed version of Lensor's userpage; she is the actual creator, but I messed with it to my liking :). Did you want something similar for your userpage? --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:47, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
i dont really know, i made mine with the help of my friend and i alrdy put alot of work into it, same with the pages of my characters. hmmm id have to think, cuz it took him a while to get me to figure it all out haha. but what do u think of my page so far? do u think i should do it like that and just add those images i have and stuff? Brendan 03:50, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I think ur page is awsome (I am a red and black girl all the way lol); but I would like to go in there and fix those images so they dont break the page.... Do you mind if I fix that? --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 03:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
SP, Brendan's page is cool, but it's almost twice the allowed size..... if you are going to fix it, make sure you take that into account.--Go to Wynthyst's Talk page Wynthyst 03:56, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
sure go ahead and do w.e. i dunno what exactly your doing. As for the size of the images, if i tried to make em that size smaller they looked like crap, cuz its such a low file Brendan 00:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Image Naming template

Hey Shadow, if you add a further message to a users talk page regarding image naming as you did on Fox Cubs page, it might be better to not use the template a second time. Maybe manually type out a message to mention the image or images that have been tagged for deletion, re-adding the same template a second time looks a bit too impersonal. Also if he keeps getting the same message for each image; he has already uploaded seven images; it might make it less likely he will check his messages although he hasn't responded at all so far. --Kakarot Talk 13:48, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeh, sorry about that; just didnt think abou it at the time. --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 15:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)