Feedback talk:User/Targetdrone/GW2 Exclude List

For JQ and FA it would make wonders. This is well thought but i dont know if there is any hidden drawbacks or exploits. Again, well thought... Yseron - 90.15.56.48 17:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

There aren't any hidden drawbacks, but there is one pretty obvious drawback - abuse. ~Shard 05:49, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

If you(and everybody) wait untill there is none from your exclude looooong list(because leechers are pretty comon) you might wait for hours, leaving the next starting round open to leechers, making them acces the area faster so they can leech more ? M3G 07:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

There can be more than one mission instance running, an instance with more leechers is likely to use less server bandwidth and cpu resources (they don't do anything). If it's just you and the leechers playing, I really don't think you want to play with them. If there are real players, they will be in different instances. Furthermore once the servers have the exclude info, it's not difficult better automate detection of leechers - and perhaps not put them in missions as often. The leechers might not even care that much to install countermeasures of their own, if they still get in often enough. FWIW, I suggested the "exclude list" years ago when leeching in aspenwood first became a problem - I believe I even emailed the idea to support. But I suspect Anet doesn't really care. Or most people are too stupid to understand how it can work. Targetdrone 10:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

The big drawback is a bunch of kurzick monks exclude everyone else except other healer/prot monks in FA, and so FA becomes more "TA" like which could break many assumptions about it - but I think only a few will bother doing that- after all the kurzicks could go all monk in FA on Mondays, but they never do that. A workaround is to only allow you to exclude people who have actually been in your team before- so only very determined and persistent people will be able to "TA" in "FA", and that just annoys the luxons for one game every few rounds. The other potential drawback is newbies could end up getting excluded in FA and JQ, and always end up in a team with leechers. However, as long as there are players playing who don't exclude newbies just because they're beginners, they'll still have a chance to play in an OK team. But really if most of the players don't want to play with beginners, it's not the "exclude list" feature that's broken. I don't see how forcing those players to play with newbies is necessarily going to make things more pleasant for the newbies. Those players will probably be harsh on the newbies. So Anet might as well keep the two apart from each other. Encouraging a player base that's friendly and accepting of newbies is someone else's job, and I don't think it is harder with an "exclude list" feature. Heck the newbies might not want to play with those snobs either. Anyway as I said, I don't think Anet really cares very much about the problem. Targetdrone 10:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know. I'd rather have more anarchy than that much structure. The report system in GW1 is being abused in its simple state too much already, just think what an expanded system like this could enable. --82.149.1.199 12:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I can't believe this didn't occur to you before, but what if someone abuses this and excludes people who aren't that good. The report system will very likely get improved so you don't have to worry about leechers anyway. MadSkillz1o1 20:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

He just addressed this in his second wall of text, actually. As for the idea, as long as the report system is improved, I don't see the need. --Kyoshi (Talk) 21:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I like this idea. To prevent newbies from getting auto-excluded by everyone, their account can have an exclude protection for the first few matches (when just starting PvP in general) and then for the first few matches per arena (while they adjust to that arena). If they don't get at least decent by then, they should probably play somewhere else anyways - that arena probably isn't for them. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 00:49, 27 May 2010 (UTC)