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that runs on 8 adendalin which takes awhile to come up.

Cruel Spear as Related[edit]

Look at the skills their essentially clones of each other, even if the dw in cruel is conditional Talamare 01:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)


, lowering your target's maximum Health by 20%

I think this should be removed from the description since Deep Wound is mentionned before, there's no need to explain what is Deep Wound's effect in this skill it just takes place for nothing :p 11:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Alot of Prophecies skills are filled with D&D-like cheese. Gash, Belly Smash, to name a few. —ǥrɩɳsɧƿoɲ/ 04:43, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
True but prophecies came out first and you couldn't expect people to know what deep wound would do the first minute in the game. At least thats why i think all the extra wording is thrown in.-- 19:00, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


The note doesnt make sense, its still the dominant warrior elite.--Atlas Oranos 03:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)


What are you guys talking about? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User: .

What are you talking about? If you're trying to continue one of the above discussion, place your comment below the line you're responding to. -- sig 04:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Everyone likes this skill. Raptaz 13:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

yeh its just good nothing special about it just nice dmg and a deep wound whats not to like? Plus i dont think its in any danger at all of being nerfed becaue its so totally balanced! its just that apart from cleave all the other axe elites suck and need a buffs Destructos Maximus 22:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I disagree, all elite axe skills are rather good, Triple Chop combined with Splinter Weapon is devastating, Whirling Axe combined with Infuriating Heat and Frenzy is a very nice spammable skill, and Decapitate is a very powerful spike.
I gotta disagree with the Triple Chop, since Cyclone Axe and Splinter Weapon will do just about the same damage. I'm not a Decapitate person, but the people who do use it love it, so I'll assume that it's fine in that respect. Whirling Axe has weak damage to go through all those hoops, but I suppose the option is there whenever... 04:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Triple Chop is terrible. Whirling Axe is terrible. -- 18:41, 22 November 2008 (UTC)


Out of curiosity or confirmation, I believe Eviscerate has had the most nerfs to date out of any skill... First of all, can someone confirm this, and on top of that how many times has it been nerfed?

I think they shortened Deep Wound by about 2 seconds and changed the damage from Executioner's Strike damage to something like Cleave damage. A little more though. Think about it, it's a Cleave (4 adrenaline) and Dismember (6 Adrenaline) in one skill that's 8 adrenaline!
You forget that adrenaline stacks. So with Dismember and Cleave you would have to hit a total of 6 times instead of 8. Bisurge 05:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but that's two skills. Dark Morphon(contribs) 15:02, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Adrenaline works as such.
  • Cleave/Dismember: You hit 8 times and use Cleave (-4). You're now at 4 adrenaline with Dismember needing 2 more to discharge. (Total hits needed = 10 = Too long!)
  • Eviserate: You hit 8 times. BOOM! Damage AND DW. (Total hits needed = 8 = FTW). --Ulterion 22:59, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
i think what you meant to say was hit 5 times to charge cleave and dismember, attack with both, totalling 7 hits. with eviscerate you have to hit 8 times to charge it and one more to discharge it, totalling 9. what's good about eviscerate isn't how many hits it takes to charge it up compared to cleave+dismember, it actually takes longer. it's good because on spikes you get the +dmg and the DW in one hit, so your second hit can be something like executioner's for even more bigger dmg. 06:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
8 hits then boom on the 9th hit you unleash eviscerate. Evsicerate is good for short term in longer engagements cleave pays off after the initial 10 adrenaline for dismember and Cleave( and i dont think thats was added correcttly) you only have to wait 3 more hits before you can use cleave again while your still waiting 7 more hits to use Eviscerate. the main advantage of eviscerate is to save space on your skill bar thats all. 07:20, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, that and Cleave sucks. -- 21:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Reset indents. And yes, Cleave does suck. Royally. The great things about Eviscerate are a) massive spike damage, including deep wound, b) great synergy with other adrenaline-based skills such as Executioner's Strike to make the spike even more effective, and c) bar compression; it provides 2 genuinely useful effects in 1 skill slot. Why take Cleave + Dismember in 2 slots when you can take Eviscerate in 1? Cleave + Dismember wouldn't even save you an elite slot. Astralphoenix777 03:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

eh? i don't get it, lol. wouldn't it be: you hit target 4 times, use cleave as 5th attack, use dismember. thats 6. eviscerate... you hit 8 times then use it... which is 9... then i suppose you add the oh so famous executioners strike on 10... seems like a lot more to me?? Roflmaomgz 08:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


cleave > this BADATGW 19:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Lol! Epic bad comment. Dark Morphon(contribs) 15:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Lawl. Got to love noobs these days Loser223 20:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
"got to love trolls these days" <-- fixed 20:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
What he should've said is Cleave CAN be better (if used in a coordinated team). The way to do this is to take Body Blow for DW and Cleave (same damage bonus as Evisc. and lower adrenaline cost; no DW). Have a team member cast Sundering Weapon on you or inflict cracked armor on your spikee before carrying out Body Blow for the DW. Hence, Cleave CAN be better than Eviscerate, but if judged independently and not factoring any outside coordination then Evisc. >>> Cleave. --Ulterion 22:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
You do know that you can bring other attack skills right? b.r // talk 01:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Cleave is a standing joke in the GW axe warrior community. Body Blow's deep wound is far too conditional, especially in PvP and it also makes for poor skillbar compression. I think most warrior players will agree that Cleave sucks and Eviscerate rocks. Astralphoenix777 03:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

not at great northern wall?[edit]

I just went through the Great northern wall in hard mode to get the skill and didn't find it on the boss. Did I just have terrible luck? Jake Gaylor

You can't capture elite skills that early in the game. ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 23:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Nvm about that... were you in hard mode? ~Shard User Shard Sig Icon.png 23:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Bosses in HM dont have elites this early in the game. This has been stated somewhere but I fail to remember where.(edit) Here is where this is stated.Talk page Drogo Boffin 23:10, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I just wasn't sure since it showed up on the list. I was hoping it was there since it was the easiest to get to with my build. Thanks for the correction on the wiki page. I should have remembered that elites don't show up in hard mode at all. As stated on the linked page "Expanded skill sets; normal enemies get an elite skill (note: to prevent easier skill capture, bosses don't) "Jake Gaylor
Please note that the only bosses that dont have elites are the ones early in the games. By that if you couldnt cap an elite there in normal mode then it wont be there for hard mode.Talk page Drogo Boffin 07:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)