Talk:Red Iris Flower

Acquisition

If you find a flower in a GW:EN zone: Add them into the notes section for now. I'll be reformating the article later to better suit the changes from GWEN --Grash 05:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Just got one in Ice Cliff Chasms. -Auron 09:22, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Yep --Valshia 00:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to do some work on the locations where the flower can be located later. Right now add I'm adding new zones in the notes section.--Grash 10:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Got one in Dalada Uplands. dominique · (talk) 11:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I just added Dalada in the notes after finding one there myself. --Grash 05:47, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Flowers and the Tapestry Shred

I've given her a lot more than 5 and didn't get a tapestry shred, I think it got changed with the release of GW:EN. Etienne 13:43, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

You have to give her 5 at one time.

I had 64 flowers, and the bint took every single one of them and gave nothing. Anon-e-mouse 19:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I have not heard any changes to Pre-searing Gwen. I've checked other sources of info. Until then, I've reverted your changes. (I've noted this on the Tapestry Shred Talk page as well) --Grash 14:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Are all flowers noted?

I don't know if this is worth changing, but i always seem to find flowers inbetween Althea's Actors Stage and the gate to the Northlands in Pre.

I actually just found one on the gate, right next to the lever. Is it even confirmed that there are only preset points for potential flower spawns? If so, I think there are a lot more than the page lets on. 128.163.7.99 18:11, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that one is ID'd as "near the stage" (it's always between the wall and the lever, sometimes out of reach).

No, all the irises in pre-searing have been noted here (some with more/less detail)

Sort of, they are not pre-set; instead, they fall into a pattern of spawning one per drop zone and the drop zones are set.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I've also found one in the water closer to entrance of the Northlands that isn't listed on the page... is it just a static spawn in an area and it moves around within that space?.

It's one of the three known irises beyond the wall. The location can vary from the "beach" to the left of the entrance to near the entrance to near the walkway/overlook of the west of the lake that's got the Grawl and 1-2 oaks. (It's not that much acreage, but you can't get from A-B without returning to the main path.)

Thanks for double-checking. I'm 99.999% sure this wiki has ID'd all the irises in PRE, but it's worth being sure.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:24, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Nicholas the Traveler

Should remain on the page as a collector with the note that he only takes these on specific days/weeks. I think it's fine the way it is now. -- Wyn talk 08:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

/agree or the note could even be changed to "at certain times". DrogoBoffin 08:36, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Item type

I have changed the item type to Trophy from Quest Item, as this is a better fit:

Category	Criteria Matched	Matched and unmatched criteria in brief
Trophy	2 of 3	Stacks, has value, has collectors, drops from monsters
Salvage Item	2 of 5	Stacks, has value, has collectors, drops from monsters, salvages
Quest item	2 of 4	Used in quests, cannot be salvaged, has 0 value, is marked Quest Item

None of the categories are a perfect fit. Irises are, in effect, a Trophy that drops without requiring a monster death (complete with a sound effect that plays when approaching within compass distance of the iris) — in fact, prior to the 4th Anniversary changes, Irises only appeared (aka dropped) when the player was close enough.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:20, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

You said 'a music' when getting in ramnge, I never heard of it. If it does play a certain sound when seeiing a iris, shouldn't it be in Notes? ````

Music? No, it's a sound-effect. IIRC, when you drop an iris from your inventory to the ground, it will repeat that sound (either on drop or pick-up or both). To hear the sound, turn up your various sound-effects (but turn any in-game or non-game music off) and head out to Gwen's garden from EotN outpost. The sound made by the two irises as you get close is louder than the jingles of the jingle pet(s). I don't think it needs a note because pretty much all items make a sound when dropping; the only anomaly about irises is that they drop from the sky (sort of) rather than a dying-foe.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:41, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

flowers behind portals

I just found an unreported bug - there was a flower behind the entrance to the Catacombs in Wizard's Folly. Are there any more of these about that aren't mentioned on the page? Queenofthedepths 16:24, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Possibly. The borders of the "drop zones" (the areas in which an iris might drop) aren't well marked by players. So, it's entirely possible that there are other undocumented spots in which an iris can pop up behind a portal.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:56, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Grothmar Wardowns added

Not sure why this hasn't been added yet, I find them here all the time in various locations within the zone. Aswed 22:42, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Trivia

• This plant is in reference in real life to plants that have names like Red Louisiana Iris or War Chief Bearded Iris or Grateful Red German Reblooming Bearded Iris as the Almanac states that Red is a color of the Iris.

The person that added this is a florist and I know them personally, we all do play guild wars together and yes our ips do intertwine. This gives no reason for Horrible to be attacking people or using links like https://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/27/science/27iris.html in the summary as an excuse. The Almanac is something that many farmers and others use to do outside gardening, etc. The New York Times is an opinionated Journalism. How is this used as an excuse to remove factual trivia that's related to Red Iris?

Seems to me that someone has a problem with people adding information, using outdated article as truth. Despite that my friend and I have helped this Rodan by adding a truth article that's used a lot more and longer than a Journalism article. Greener, I would like for you to explain why you side with someone using outdated information as warrant to not keeping something truthful to the flowers? Does our link not help justify truth that we're called vandals, when the real vandal wants to remove information against several ips on several pages now? Does this not justify that this person clearly has a problem with ips that's not any of our faults? 174.232.188.3 11:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Surely, you see why my friends and I refuse to register. Why should anyone register, if they're to be attacked by horrible, but we're claimed to be the problem makers or troublemakers? I would like to suggest this Trivia be re-added as per Your "Guild_Wars_Wiki:How_to_help with I quote, "If you were browsing around and saw that which you know is missing, you are very welcome to add it in." I see no reason as to why the Trivia is being removed and Horrible should have brought it to the talk, instead of reverting in the first place to ask for examples and links to verify facts. This person has yet to apologize to anyone for hostility. 174.232.188.3 11:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

A 2006 article is pretty relevant, as the game (and this item) were released in 2005. That being said, if it's more misleading regarding the current state of horticulture than useful, it's fine to remove. Which it now has been. That doesn't mean it needs to be replaced by one stating that they do exist, especially without any clue which specific one it may have been inspired by, if any at all beyond the concept of an iris and deciding it would be red. The article lived for 15 years without any trivia note at all and has now returned to that state.

If you have any information about real-world red irises that is specifically relevant to this in-game item, do let us know, but merely that red irises exist generally doesn't really qualify. Anything beyond that would be more appropriate to the Wikipedia article on irises (which, interestingly, notes that there's no such thing as a "truly red" bearded iris. I don't think we can tell if the in-game iris is bearded or not, so still not relevant here, but maybe you'll have some interesting dicussions over there) - Tanetris (talk) 22:35, 11 December 2022 (UTC)

I originally added the trivia because I thought it was fun and added a nice perspective on why this specific flower is the one that appears in pre-searing. I'm not going to re-add it for a variety of reasons, but I do think the article is worse off without it. horrible 20:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)