Talk:Ventari

Not sure if this should be put on the page or not...it is from the Lore that PC Gamer published

The pale oak grew under the watchful and gentle eye of Ventari, becoming strong and healthy, and giving the old Centaur great joy. Yet with this bliss came sorrow. The Centaur tribes of the north and west, crushed and driven out by Krytans fleeing from their flooding coastline, grew more and more savage and brutal. As more tribes joined the war, fewer were willing to listen to Ventari’s words, and his new outpost became smaller and smaller.

At last, old and gray, Ventari carved his life's lessons upon a marble tablet, which he placed at the base of the pale tree so that future travelers might read it and, perhaps, learn the ways of peace and harmony. Then, many years after his human companion had passed on, Ventari laid down beside the tree Ronan had planted, and died. The year was 1165 AE.

The tree, white and sparkling, continued to grow. Over a hundred years later, small cocoons appeared among its branches. These cocoons spun out, shifting and eventually ripping open, birthing a new race of people into the world—fully grown, as if they had awakened from some magical dream. They called themselves the Sylvari, and these “Firstborn” were only the beginning of a widespread emergence, all born from the same massive tree.

The marble tablet still bears Ventari's last words, and the Sylvari who emerged from the tree found themselves strangely guided by these ancient lessons. Whether the tree, tended by Ventari, somehow became imprinted with the noble Centaur's morals and ethics, or whether it absorbed both the remains of the Centaur's flesh as well as his compassionate soul upon his death, no one knows for certain. But it is certain that his influence over the Sylvari is strong, even so many decades after his death. Their race venerates the Ventari Tablet as their most sacred artifact and testament.--Coridan 13:37, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if Ventari is going to be like a God or a prophet to the Sylvari race in GW2. 58.110.137.152 06:07, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Most likely. Or at minimum, a highly venerated teacher and guide. Either way, we got to see him in the flesh when he was alive. Hooray! We knew a God! File:Esig2.jpg Eldin 01:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

We also killed one, watch one get created and got shafted despite doing all the work. --Curse You 10:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Ventari's tablet sounds like a bible equivalent. Too bad marble breaks easily. Watch our character accidentally break it and become worst foes with the Sylvari. Eldin 20:48, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I wonder why noone has said "Ten Commandments" yet... Paddymew 11:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

I don't think it looks like he's holding a spear, since, as the note itself says, Ventari's model dates back to way before spears were introduced. His pose has always reminded me of that of a warrior with a hammer flung over his shoulder; you can see this pose in the game when a hammer-wielding warrior (or mesmer, oddly enough) has had their movement speed slowed to a walk. --Mme. Donelle 12:54, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

I aggree cept his offhand looks like a shield pose. Very odd MrPaladin † talk 12:59, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Trivia 2

• This is a possible reference to Lord Vetinari from Terry Pratchett's Discworld series.

I hoped someone bolder than me would just remove it, but anyway, let me ask: do we think this has any chance of being valid? | 72 | 15:28, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Not really. Ventari is closer to the name of a planet in the Babylon 5 universe. It's also what you get from trying to type Centaur way too quickly. --Irgendwer 00:07, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Prima guide gives him an armor rating?

I found in the Prima guide that his armor is 150, yet he is a total pacifist. Is this his armor at LV 15?Yumiko ^,~ 05:50, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Very curious. I don't know why they'd set a non-combative, relatively unimportant (at the time) NPC's to such a high level. Manifold 14:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Lack of Lore

Seriously surprised at the lack of lore for this character. There is no back story for him - anywhere? His leaves his teachings behind, but where he learns his lessons we have no clue, apparently. The PC Gamer article quoted above is long gone and the only mention of any history is from Councilor Vaylor mentioning he has some history with him that he doesn't want to talk about. Kilaelya 23:16, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

The following has been copied word for word from the original article

Ronan was joined by an aging Centaur named Ventari, who had also begun to lose hope in peace. The human and the Centaur, against all odds, formed a friendship that surpassed the bounds of race. Together, they decided to begin their lives anew and create a refuge for human and Centaur alike. They built their safe haven near the ocean and the budding tree for all those who sought peace and the shelter of friendship.

The pale oak grew under the watchful and gentle eye of Ventari, becoming strong and healthy, and giving the old Centaur great joy. Yet with this bliss came sorrow. The Centaur tribes of the north and west, crushed and driven out by Krytans fleeing from their flooding coastline, grew more and more savage and brutal. As more tribes joined the war, fewer were willing to listen to Ventari’s words, and his new outpost became smaller and smaller.

At last, old and gray, Ventari carved his life's lessons upon a marble tablet, which he placed at the base of the pale tree so that future travelers might read it and, perhaps, learn the ways of peace and harmony. Then, many years after his human companion had passed on, Ventari laid down beside the tree Ronan had planted, and died. The year was 1165 AE.

The tree, white and sparkling, continued to grow. Over a hundred years later, small cocoons appeared among its branches. These cocoons spun out, shifting and eventually ripping open, birthing a new race of people into the world—fully grown, as if they had awakened from some magical dream. They called themselves the Sylvari, and these “Firstborn” were only the beginning of a widespread emergence, all born from the same massive tree.

The marble tablet still bears Ventari's last words, and the Sylvari who emerged from the tree found themselves strangely guided by these ancient lessons. Whether the tree, tended by Ventari, somehow became imprinted with the noble Centaur's morals and ethics, or whether it absorbed both the remains of the Centaur's flesh as well as his compassionate soul upon his death, no one knows for certain. But it is certain that his influence over the Sylvari is strong, even so many decades after his death. Their race venerates the Ventari Tablet as their most sacred artifact and testament.

It is unknown how old a Sylvari can become, as they come forth fully mature and show no signs of aging thereafter. Sylvari have no children, no families as such, but each Sylvari feels a special connection with others through what they call the “Dream of Dreams.” In this dream, they commune with the inner mind of the race, learning how to speak, walk, use simple tools, and interact with the world. Thus, when a Sylvari emerges, she knows a great deal more about the world than one might expect.

But the Dream of Dreams also contains nightmares—hidden whispers behind the voices of their fellow Sylvari. They do not understand what it means—but the Sylvari have yet to experience much of the world around them. They do not know the dangers and troubles of Tyria as intimately the other races do. But they are learning.

Web archive stores all the old stuff even if unavailable at the moment! Hopefully anything you needed from that article is above... I didn't gain much by reading it :> File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:26, 27 March 2012 (UTC)