Template talk:Mission rewards

Feedback

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Basically I'd like to roll out some templates with the mission rewards across all the mission pages, but first I need some feedback on these icons. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 18:50, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

stuff I'd like comments on:

• Icons or text for masters, expert and normal?
• Icons or text for faction/reputation rewards?
• Combine columns together for rewards?

File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 19:25, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Personally I like suggestion 2 better, the combined icons make it a lot simpler to glance at and check the rewards. Just a few minor things I noticed:

• The icons need to link to their perspective titles, derp.
• How about for Sunspear?
• The normal-mode icons aren't that big, it might be harder to tell the difference between the stages for some, perhaps those should be text? If we were to keep them as icons (and make them slightly larger) then I'd like to add a way for them to change based on the campaign, even if it's as simple as adding in another parameter on each one (although it'd be a lot more badass if the template could pull that info from the page).
• If these are to be used for Prophecies missions as well, does it change to work with only two objectives? If that'd be too hard to do, we can always make another template following the same style just for those.

~FarloTalk 20:26, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. Sunspear signet is a great idea. Images will link when I do the real version :P If you looked closely at the page, you can see that I did skeleton ugly formatting originally - the bottom missions below the picture version are entirely templated - it even takes the same inputs as the current template does - so yes I can get rows to disappear :D

Icon response seems inconclusive, but I'd hazard that text is the safer option. (personally i love the hard mode icons :P ) File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 20:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

I thought of another question, you see where Augury Rock has 0 - would it be better to display nothing " ", or to display a line "-" or to just show "0" without the symbol? File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 22:23, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

How trivial, lol. I'd prefer the "-". ~FarloTalk 22:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Cant wait to see the new templates updating pages. As for the reward icons why not the same we see in-game? One sword for first bonus and two for masters? If you want to distinguish modes why not use the party window icons as well? Yoshida Keiji talk 23:33, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, originally as you can see - I did have the icons, but I agree with farlo that the Normal mode icons for the missions are a little bit too small, and if they're any bigger the lines break. I'm currently coding the current appearance into the template. --File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 23:38, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Keep it up Alex! I would like to suggest a different background color to split NM and HM rewards. Or better use different degrees from light to darker. Yoshida Keiji talk 23:55, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

@ farlo, implemented the "-" signs for zero gold, i don't like it tbh. I think a think blank space might look better. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 00:27, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

I might also pester tub to see if he knows how to align numbers. I could do with alignment for the eotn/nightfall tables. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 00:47, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

A blank space is fine, just as long as it's not "0 ". As for the text aligns, I just implemented it (in a terribly basic way) in the example, I'll see about translating it to the template, unless you don't want anymore ECs :P ~FarloTalk 00:52, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks good, i can easily put that in the template. - about to replace the hover text for the icons. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 00:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

*Swears. I'll have to put it around every gold, xp and reputation value. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:01, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps not... What if you put it around the entire Rewards section? Wouldn't that make everything in that section right align? Once again, sorry if I EC'd you, I'll go back my maps where I belong :P ~FarloTalk 01:09, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Hah. Don't worry its done now. I'm going to sleep ^_^ exams finished this morning (totally horrendous paper but meh). Do you think I should put this on the requests for comment? File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:18, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Once all the kinks are ironed out then absolutely :P. I'll be finishing up the shadowed text template and putting that up soon (hopefully tonight). ~FarloTalk 01:21, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I still need to add the ability to add an optional ^superfix note for the prophecies missions augury rock + divinity. Roughly speaking:

{{ show nothing if no note exists | * show asterisk if note exists }}
Then some sort of italicised key underneath 
''{{{note}}}''

should be easy enough after some sleep :P File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:25, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

+ ? Yoshida Keiji talk 02:06, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Current bug

The bug is probably related to my {{#expr formula for the colspan on factions - it works fine if you set it to nightfall. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:34, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

For reference:

 colspan={{#expr: {{{Reputation|1|0}}} + 3}} 

I'm trying to get it to add ONE to the default number of columns (3) when the reputation value has been filled in. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Maybe this is it...

 {{#expr: {{#ifeq: {{{Reputation}}} |  |  | 1 }} + 3}} 

File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 01:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

The correct and concise way to add 1 if the "Reputation" parameter ist set would be:

 {{#expr: {{#if:{{{Reputation|}}}|1|0}} + 3}} 

Tub 13:15, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

"Primetime" as so called by certain individuals

Is it ready for it? File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 22:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Fuck that. It doesn't work when I paste in the code at arborstone - as in if I replace the first line of the existing template with

{{User:Chieftain Alex/Templates/Mission Reward|Factions
| Objective = Completion time
| Reputation = Kurzick

Then it doesn't work.. what the heck. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 22:37, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind, it seems to be working now with the exact same lines of text. File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 22:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Table footnotes are usually added in a less bulky way, like this:

<small>
:<sup>1</sup> First Note
:<sup>2</sup> Second Note
</small>

Other than that, I think it looks good. Well done! Tub 23:13, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Feel like suggesting a name? I was thinking "Template:Mission Reward" since all that will need changing will be the capital R, and all the parameters. Or possibly "Template:Mission rewards 2" File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 23:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

I'd probably go with "Mission rewards 2". Things can get confusing when the only difference is one capital letter. ~FarloTalk 23:59, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

IMHO the proper name would be "Mission rewards". We should be able to delete {{Mission Rewards}} soon (it's used on 5 missions only), and get rid of {{Mission reward}} later, thus removing all name conflicts. There's no need for three templates, anyway. Tub 00:42, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not totally sure I'd bother using this on the EotN pages. I can't find any wording for "first time through the dungeon you get more reputation" thats better than "first" --File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.jpg Chieftain Alex 00:52, 30 January 2012 (UTC)