User:Karlos/Species

Species

Definition: Species denotes the creature's type. This affects what traits the creature has such as it's vulnerability to certain weapons and skills as well as it's resistance to certain types of damage.

Hierarchy: The assumption is that there are arch-species and sub-species. The clear dividing line seems to be Fleshy vs non-Fleshy as there seems to be no creatures that blur this line (i.e. get poisoned, but do not leave corpses). Within that, there are arch sub-types (such as Undead) that cause certain traits (such as taking double damage from holy damage) but still have sub-species such as Skeletons that are non-fleshy and take extra damage from "Skeleton slaying" mods as well as fleshy creatures.

Criteria: See below.

Species categorization:

Fleshy	Non-Fleshy	Unknown
Afflicted Animals Sickened animals Behemoths (Tyrian) Blood Drinkers Centaurs Losaru centaurs Maguuma centaurs Shiverpeak centaurs Elonian Centaurs (Veldt?) Charr Demons Kanaxai Aspects Margonites Oni Shadow Army Shadow Monk, Mesmer, Ele, Warrior, Ranger Abyssal? Stygian Golem DoA Torment creatures RoT Demons UW Demons (Aatxe, Dryders? Coldfire Nights?) Chaos Demons (Grasps, Scyth eof Chaos, Wrathful Storm) Devourers Dragons Saltspray Dragons Drakes Turtle Dragons Dredge Dryders Dwarves Elementals Ethers Snowmen Fish? (Test in Gyala Hatchery or Silent Surf with EoE, both fish are there) Jade Fish Leviathan Fish Forgotten Gaki Gargoyles Giants Sand Giants Hill Giants Grey Giants Enslaved Frost Giant Tundra Giant Awakened Grey Giant? (doubtful) Furnace Guardians Grawl Great Beasts (do they EoE each other?) Behemoths (Elonian) Cobalt Ntouka Ntouka Bird? Howlers Grentches Griffons Harpies Including Skree Griffons Heket Humans Hydras Imps Grentches are Imps? Insects All Elonian bugs (Istani/Kournan/Vabbian/Desolation varieties): Termites Lance Beetles Lance Queens Elonian Spiders Roller beetles Tyrian Spiders FoW Spiders Tyrian Scarabs Kirin Kraken Mandragors Mantis Are they bugs? Minotaurs Mursaat Mursaat ele, mesmer, necro and monk Naga Ogres Ettins Yeti Plants Dragon Plants Juggernauts Sentient Plants Sprouts Stalker Trees Guardian trees Riders Seers Shiro'ken Bound Spirits? Profession Constructs Skale Tengu Avicara Caromi Tengu Sensali Titan (seems more like a mistake or to feed the Despair Titan wells?) Dementia Titans Rage Titans Trolls Turtles Kappa Undead Abominations All Awakened except Carven Effigy (and Blademaster?) Flesh Golem Orrian Undead: Executioner, Damned Cleric, Necrid Horseman, Bone Dragon, Ghouls, Warlocks Fahranur Undead: All Skeleton Army: none Lich Lord Rotscale Vampires Vermin Wallows Wardens Worms Wurms	Celestials Demons All Stygian creatures except Golems UW Demons (Grasping Darknesses and Charged Blacknesses?) Mragga? Droughtlings? (Likely Elementals, can test in Dejarin Estate) Elementals/Constructs Carven Effigies Djinn Droughtlings? Earth elementals (Crags and Mesas) Ice Golems Stone Guardians? Mursaat Jade constructs Stone Guardians Enchanted Monoliths Nightmares Plants Stalkers Explosive Growths Phantoms Spirits Titans All except Dementia and Rage Undead (all skeletal ans spectral undead) Awakened: Blademaster All Minions except Flesh golem Orrian Undead: Hellhounds, Rangers & Bowmasters, Monk, Mesmer, Sorcerer Fahranur Undead: None. Pr-Searing Undead? All Skeleton Army Ghosts? (in Elona they are Undead) Eternals? (does the guy in the Sousuke/Jin quest take double damage?) Smite Crawlers? Wraith Undead Wraith (Krytan) Smoke Phantoms (no double holy damage glitch) Portal Wraiths (no double holy damage glitch) Tomb Wraith (no double holy damage glitch) Spectres? Mindblade Spectres Smite Crawlers?

Political affiliation

Definition: Affiliation defines creatures' allegiance to a specific diety/group and it's hostility to other groups.

Effect: The effect of affiliattion can be seen in a few ways:

1. Groups of monsters being hostile to each other, such as Outcasts being hostile to all other creatures in the Jade Sea or the Afflicted being hostile to the creatures of the Echovald Forest and the Jade Sea.
2. Certain bounties reward slaying creatures allied with a specific cause (Anguish creatures, Servants of Dhuum) than actual species.

Criteria: See below.

Unaffiliated (wild)	Affiliated	Unknown
Abominations Animals Behemoths (Tyrian) Blood Drinkers Celestials Centaurs Losaru centaurs Maguuma centaurs Shiverpeak centaurs Devourers Dragons Saltspray Dragons? Drakes Turtle Dragons Dryders Elementals Djinn Earth elementals Fish Jade Fish Leviathan Fish Gaki Gargoyles Great Beasts Behemoths (Elonian) Mokele Ntouka Giants Sand Giants Hill Giants Grey Giants Tundra Giant Grawl Griffons Heket? Hydras Imps Insects Kirin Kraken Mandragors Mantis Minotaurs Nighmares Azure Shadows Fog Nighmares Nightmares in RoF Ogres Ettins Plants Dragon Plants Juggernauts Sentient Plants Sprouts Stalkers Trees Guardian trees Riders Scarabs Skale Spiders Stone Guardians Trolls Turtles Kappa Undead Masterless Awakened Fahranur Undead Skeleton Army: none Vermin Wallows Rot Wallows Worms Wraiths Tomb Wraith Wurms Sand Wurm Desert Wurm Frost Wurm Phantoms RoF Phantoms	Servants of Shiro: Afflicted Sickened animals Shiro'ken (including constructs and bound spirits) Veldt Centaurs (allied with Sunspears?) Elonian Centaurs (Veldt) Charr (Servants of the Titans? not possible to test) Charr Servants of Kanaxai Kanaxai Aspects Oni? Outcasts Fish in the Deep Nighmares in the Deep Servants of Abaddon: Abaddon Torment Demons in RoT Margonites Shadow Army in RoT Titans in RoT Shiro + Lich in RoT Shiroken in RoT (unaffected by LB Gaze) :( Graven Monoliths + Apocrypha (unaffected by LB gaze) :( Dhuum Servants in RoT and Tombs? Chaos Wurms? Chaos Demons? (Grasp of Insanity, Wrathful Storm, ...) Servants of Dhuum in Dragon Festival? Servants of Mallyx: Torment Demons in DoA Shadow Army in DoA Stygian creatures Titans in DoA Dhuum Servants in DoA Servants of Glint/Five Gods/Kormir? Forgotten Enchanted Servants of Menzies: Shadow Army in FoW Shadow Army in RoT? Servants of Dhuum: Dryders in UW (and Tombs?) Riders in UW (and Tombs?) Mindblade Spectres Wailing Lords in UW Servants of Dhuum in RoT and Tombs? Servants of Dhuum in Dragon Festival? Servants of the Wailing Lord: Banshee in FoW Deldrmor Dwarves All green Dwarves King Jalis + Brchnar + ... Stone Summit: Stone Summit Dwarves Ice Golems Enslaved Frost Giants Enslaved Ettins Furnace Guardians Enslaved Dredge Servants of Grenth: Grentches Servants of Dwayna Snowmen Servants of Balthazar: Ghosts Eternals Humans Priests of Balthazar Zaishen Order Mursaat Mursaat ele, mesmer, necro and monk Jade Constructs Seers Hostile Tengu Avicara Caromi Tengu Sensali Allied Tengu Those Tengu in Kinya Province Servants of the Lich All Orrian Undead Tyrian Titans Wraiths/Phantoms: Portal Wraiths Wraiths Smoke Phantoms Servants of Palawa Joko: Awakened (including Carven Effigies) Servants of Urgoz: Vampires Wardens Dredge in the Warren? Blood Drinkers in the Warren? Plants in the Warren? Servants of Mragga Phantoms Mragga Spawn Vabbian allied: Humans Vabbian Guards Elementals Djinn Ethers Istani Allied: Shorewatchers Kournan Allied (Servants of Varesh): Humans Kournan army Demons Hunger Drought Blasphemy? (or does he get LB Gazed?) Corsairs White Mantle allied: All White Mantle Shining Blade allied: All Shining Blade Canthan Emperor allied: Canthan Guard Emperial Guard Obsidian Flame Kurzick allied: Humans (tons) Juggernauts Wallows (Buruts + Sheena) Saltspray Dragon (in AB) Luxon allied: Humans (heaps) Siege Turtles Young Turtles Saltspray Dragon (in AB) Dredge* Fungal Wallows Naga* Orges Yeti* Harpies*	Ghosts Spirits

* denotes intelligent species that seems to be able to form tribes and alliances with/against humans

Criteria

Slaying mods

These will always determine species. Sometimes they determine sub-species, as in the case of Skeleton-slaying

of Charrslaying	species: charr
of Deathbane	undead
of Demonslaying	demon
of Dragonslaying	species: dragon
of Dwarfslaying	species: dwarf
of Giantslaying	species: giant
of Ogreslaying	species: ettin or species: yeti
of Pruning	species: plant
of Skeletonslaying	species: skeleton
of Tenguslaying	species: tengu
of Trollslaying	species: troll

Bounties

These sometimes indicate political allegiance, but most of the times, it's species. In very rare cases (see Undead Hunt) it indicates BOTH:

Anguish Hunt	affiliation: Servant of Mallyx species: inconclusive
Corsair Bounty	affiliation: corsair species: human
Demon Hunt	affiliation: servant of Abaddon species: demon
Dhuum Battle	affiliation: servants of Abaddon/Dhuum species: Demonic Dryders (so Terrorwebs and Torturewebs only)/some chaos demons (Grasps, Mesmer Scythes)
Elemental Hunt	affiliation: none (or Vabbian, as in Hidde City) species: elemental
Giant Hunt	affiliation: none species: giant
Heket Hunt	affiliation: none species: heket
Insect Hunt	affiliation: none species: Insect (Elonian)
Kournan Bounty	affiliation: Kournan army species:Human
Mandragor Hunt	affiliation: none species: mandragor
Margonite Battle	affiliation: Servant of Abaddon species: margonite
Menzies Battle	affiliation: Menzies species: Shadow Army/Nightmare?
Minotaur Hunt	affiliation: none species: minotaur
Monolith Hunt	affiliation: Servant of Abaddon species: monolith
Monster Hunt	affiliation: none species: howler or species: ntouka or species: ntouka bird or species: behemoth (elonian) or species: cobalt
Monster Hunt #2	affiliation: Servant of Abaddon species: torment creature
Plant Hunt	affiliation: none arch-species:plant
Skale Hunt	affiliation:none species: skale
Skree Battle	affiliation: Harpy species: harpy
Titan Hunt	affiliation: Servant of Abaddon/Lich? species: titan
Undead Hunt	affiliation: Servant (or former servant) of Palwa OR arch-species:undead

Other criteria

Death can damage each other under Edge of Extinction	same species
Can pass disease to each other	same species
Specifically immune to bleeding, disease, and poison	not fleshy
Corpses left behind are not exploitable	not fleshy
Takes double damage from holy damage	arch-species: Undead
Counts as "margonite" for Forgotten Retribution counter	species: margonite
Counts as "demonic servant of Abbadon" for Lightbringer Signet and Lightbringer's Gaze activation Counts as part of "Abaddon and his demonic servants" for Lightbringer title	affiliation: servant of Abaddon
Counts as a "spirit" for skills and soul reaping	species: spirit
Cannot be hexed or enchanted, with the message "Spirits are not affected by this type of skill". Immune to conditions.	species: spirit
Drops the same Trophy	same species OR same affiliation
Shared graphical model	Inconclusive... can indicate same species
In-game lore	Can indicate species or affiliation

Anomalies

• Do Shadow Beasts trigger EoE on other Shadow Army units or vice versa? (This would "greatly" weaken EoE's credibility as a clear cut decider of species as Shadow Beasts are decidedly not even Fleshy while all other Shadow Army units are)
• Are Corrupted Scales and Explosive Growths affected by Gaze of Fury? They are unhexable and cannot suffer conditions with a message saying they are spirits. Is it just a glitch (i.e. misderivation of the base class of the creature)?
• Explosive Growths are labeled as spirits by the game, they trigger EoE on Urgoz... Is HE a spirit? Can he be killed with Gaze of Fury? If not, EoE's credibility as a clear cut decider agains is questionable. It basically shows the Devs can give arch-types that clash with the creature's EoE species.
• Do all ghosts in the game take double-damage from holy damage? Need to test on the UW ghosts (Tortured Spirits). The evil Ghostly Hero in Dunes of Despair is fleshy and leaves a corpse. :(
• Are Wraiths -humanoid spectres, with tendancy to be affiliated with guys like the Lich and Dhuum- (like Wraiths and Smoke Phantoms and Mindblade Spectres) and Phantoms -squids- (like Phantoms and posibly Mragga Spawn) the same species? Do they share a common arch-species with Nighmares?
• Do Smite Crawlers take double damage from holy damage? (I never solo farmed them back in the day)

Level 2 Information: Species Traits

Once we are set on which creatures belong to which species, we need to build up a list of Species traits. This is a list of some traits I observed over the years:

Trait	Species
Double damage from holy damage	Undead
+AL vs Elemental Damage	Stone Guardians, Terrorweb Dryders?, Spirit of Portals
Increased AL and Resistence to Conditions and Hexes?	Diamond Djinn?
Moves at increased speed in Normal Mode (25%? 33%?)	Phantoms, Behemoths (Elonian), Drakes (Tyrian) <-- 33%
Attacks knockdown foes (always? 50%?)	Abyssals, Zhu Hanuku, ...
Cannot be knocked down	Ice Golems, Earth Elemntals, Giants (Tyrian), Stone Guardians (except reapers), ...
+AL vs Fire damage	Titans, Charr
-AL vs Fire damage	Ice Golems