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"I used to have this page watchlisted, because I thought you were kind of funny. Now it just hurts to read. -- Tha Reckoning 02:55, 15 January 2011 (UTC)"

Yea, it began to get annoying more than its purpose was. So I decided to bury the Blue-Haired Rebel and drop the moniker and the whole drama around it. I began to repeat myself sometimes, which led to complete eyesores.

Most of the stuff on the Blue-Haired Rebel's talk page is... not very accurate. I was curious about what kind of reactions I would get if I would create the most unlikable persona I could think of while still being the same Koda Kumi, beginning with a Matt Hardy / Shad Gaspard-like "change of heart" statement. Much to my surprise, the reactions varied enormously. Some sympathized with me, seeing the beauty of individuality and the bravado of stepping out of the mold, some pointed straight to policies with an iron rod, and others tried to lecture an essentially unlecturable person.

The persona was not just created "for teh lolz" though. I cannot say what I want to do with that knowledge, but it will certainly be awesome instead of annoying. Koda Kumi 16:59, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

u crazy nigga -Cursed Angel 熱 17:05, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
dammit I really wanted a pic -- ArmondUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 17:40, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
You are a snowflake. — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif 17:42, 25 Jan 2011 (UTC)
[1] --Riddle 18:21, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I called this. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 21:42, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
That is the kind of humor I would likely make. Koda Kumi 23:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
That was the most unconvincing cop-out speech I've ever read. --Macros 23:52, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I know you were trolling. My comment was directed at your actual persona. Morphy 16:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
"Glad to see you ditched the semi-carebear hypocritical bullshit attitude 90% of the PvE community seems to suffer from. I'm afraid it's too little, too late though. The PvE-ness has already corrupted your mind to a critical degree. Morphy 13:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)"
"Corrupted" is a big word, and I do not even play this game anymore, but you can say the oblivious PvE-crowd reached rock bottom shortly before I left. Has it become even worse? Koda Kumi 18:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Just look at guru, lol. Morphy 18:43, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
What are your Guild Wars characters Koda? --Kronix xxx 18:20, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
When I still played this game, I mained monk. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 18:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice man, nice --Kronix xxx 2:19, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Average conversation on GWW[edit]

Note: The following section is satirical. If you or anyone in the present, future, or past is or would be offended by it, the internet may be too dangerous for you.

Completely exaggerating a problem - [insert IP here]

Reacting to IP - [insert GWW regulars here]
cool story bro -Cursed Angel 熱
Wall of text --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg
Butting heads with someone — Raine Valen User Raine R.gif
Butting heads with Raine User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni

(reset indent)Keep it civil, guys – Emmett

White knighting for Raine -- ArmondUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}}
Black knighting against Raine Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF
Flame-filled oneliner -Auron
Trolling [insert well-known troll here]
Complete derailing of conversation User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni
i liek mudkipz --BriarUser Briar Sig 3.jpgThe Spider

Random comment completely unrelated to anything of the above Morphy

Alright, I'm moving this shit. Try to keep such trollbait off [insert non-userspace here], thanks. --JonTheMon

Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 11:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Clever. Really.--BriarUser Briar Sig 3.jpgThe Spider 11:27, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
I am pleased. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 11:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, sounds about right. --Riddle 14:39, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
i dont troll :( -Auron 14:40, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Made me chuckle for a bit ;) ShadowRunner 16:19, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
So accurate it's scary. ^_^--Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg18:30, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
My favorite part was the bacon. (It always is.) -- ArmondUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 20:18, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
You can't argue with bacon.--User Oneshot O.JPGneshot. 22:17, 15 March 2011.
gww would work more efficiently with more of me and less of other people... -Cursed Angel 熱 16:01, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Except that you don't do any work. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 16:03, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey guys, have you heard? A new Pirates of the Carribean movie is going into premiere this month! Morphy 17:56, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

cool story bro! -Cursed Angel 熱 17:57, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
<random Infi comment knocking some sense into people (20% chance)> - Infinite - talk 17:59, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
Raine smells User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 18:09, 16 March 2011 (UTC)


is that really all I do? – Emmett 18:51, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

permission pl0x[edit]

I can haz copy paste on my user page? User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 19:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

It'll be credited to you, of course. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 19:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
C/P what? the above segment? Sure. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 14:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! :) User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 18:09, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


I still always use it to talk about Shield of Deflection. I guess I'm too old for those new kids and their Shroud of Distress. *shakes cane* -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 21:13, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

There is nothing that says "fuck you" to a warrior than a 1/4CT, 75% block chance and 24 extra armor worth of frustration. But maybe that is just because my main has always been monk. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 21:16, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
One of the first things I learned when I tried to play warrior was that SoD means tab. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 21:30, 17 December 2011 (UTC)


Re: [2]

I actually hope it does really well. I picked up SWTOR recently and it's WTFgood. I had forgotten how good story-driven games can be; it's like reading a book, but instead of some unshaven guy on a bus, you're a fucking badass with a lightsaber (in this case). I think SWTOR's story-based leveling is one of those revolutions in the gaming industry that we keep talking about but never really think too hard about, not unlike Aion's (failed) attempt at 3D combat and play. Even if the game ends up flopping after a few months, I won't regret the $100 I dropped on it; a fun, story-based experience is well worth that, and I hope other companies pick it up.

Likewise, there's a *lot* of things GW2 can do that will make me feel the same. Even if I never end up buying GW2, I hope it does well enough to positively influence the rest of the industry.

-- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 17:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I do not follow the development of GW2 that closely, but they have made perfectly clear that they have thrown the elements that made GW a good game - that is, when it was a good game - out of the window: a low level cap where the game actually takes off (the new max level will be over 100), an active role for a healing class (there will be no healing class at all), player skill being more important than gear or character skills (they have done a good job at removing it in GW1 already), and a secondary class complementing your primary (secondary classes are removed, builds are determined by weapon + class, probably going to be 1 build per class). What remains is a generic MMO with flashy graphics and zero entertainment for people who want to play something challenging like us. Perhaps "WoW clone" was not the right term. I apologize to Blizzard. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 18:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
You missed a couple important parts: levels become essentially meaningless after a certain point (I don't remember the exact number, but I think it was in the 40-50 range), areas scale to your level and group size, quests are replaced with story events that are actually interesting. I agree that losing the healer and the secondary profession system are sadface, but I still think there's a lot of stuff to be learned from GW2. 20:48, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm late to the party but I agree with you 100%. After GW became uninteresting for me I looked for other MMOs to play only to find a whole lot of WoW clone-hotkey mashfest snoozers. The only other game that looked interesting was Rift, only to find out it's just another WoW clone with a much better package. Watching GW2's combat, there doesn't seem like there is a lot a player can do to avoid or negate damage even if the person plays very well. Even the aspect of skill chaining looks like something that was done before. About a year ago I started playing Vindictus/Mabinogi heroes which is a fully non targeted combat and going from level 1-70 you only gain 2-3x more hit points. It really doesn't get to be a lot of fun until you hit level 60, but the fact that you can die in 2-3 hits forces players to play very carefully whether it be split second dodges for guards. For example, the Lann class's dodge skill has a 0.3 second invulnerability frame, and in the current end game you can't clear out of the boss's attacks with a short dodge distance so you have to rely on that 0.3 seconds. You can also use advanced techniques like using the movements in the attack animations to dodge and attack at the same time. I was really hoping that GW2 would have some aspect of that split second windows of defense/offense where the difference between skilled vs unskilled is night and day... not just moderately more effective. --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg19:35, 02 March 2012 (UTC)
When designing a game, one of the first steps of the process is determining the audience you want to please. The audience that is in favor of a player skill-based, easy to lean/difficult to master game is quite small. The crowd that just wants a game to waste their time on and mash buttons to win is regrettably the majority. As of such, game designers are more inclined to please that crowd and neglect the others.
A friend of mine plays EVE Online, which has by far the most freedom of every MMO out there. Which means that players can make the game as challenging as possible for themselves. But what happens is that players almost always pick targets significantly weaker than they are, even if a loss would mean absolutely nothing. It would be a challenge, but most players are not interested in a challenge. They are interested in owning shit. Which brings me back to GW2.
GW2 lets you own shit. It is geared specifically for the people who liked EotN: you buy things, you grind, your character gets better, you buy better things, you grind more, rinse and repeat. At no point the player actually becomes better, because there is no need to chance your strategy. Doing the same thing over and over gets you loot and lets you own shit, so there is no reason to get better at the game. This is the trend Anet has set for its sequel, and for us who value difficulty and engaging gameplay, GW2 is not the place to look. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 19:19, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
I was really interested in Eve online until I saw that it's a subscription game... but I do hear that it's a fun but tough game to play. What I don't understand is... when you win all the time doesn't it just get boring after a while? For me GW got to the point where anything meaningful in PvE took forever, 1~2 hours... and Anet would put a gimmick in the area that will wipe the party and force a restart after a huge time wasted. Then you re-roll, to counter that gimmick with a gimmick and run into a different gimmick that gets annoying. Then you re-roll and change to a ubergimmick build and steamroll everything. Then everything else is just the same gimmick vs PvE or it's gimmick vs gimmick in PvP now... senseless button mashing.
They really should have allowed a way for players to choose the most challenging gameplay style and still win. In Vindictus, there are easy classes to play such as the Staff Evie, and a very hard class to play, the spear Lann. The spear lann has the highest DPS in the game but the lowest survivability and needs split second reflexes, perfect timing, etc to survive and DPS at the same time. Staff Evie on the other hand is the pew pew class in the game, but that's not to say that you don't need skills to play it, you just don't need as much timing in defense and attack. The gulf between the skilled and unskilled is huge, and even getting the best armor/weapon won't compensate for lack of skill. Then there are some people who solo raid bosses and do things in the game that very few people can accomplish just because their skill is that much better. For example comparing my poor performance in the 8man ingkells raid [3] to Daphnetaffy's ingkells raid solo [4] you can tell how much better her timing is. Same character class, same weapon type, only 30% more effective gear, 1000x more skill, same boss. Then there is that crazy korean player that spams fury infusion to get infinite stamina until his hitpoints reach 1 and never get hit the entire run... [5]. These are things that I hoped that Anet developers could have incorporated.
Getting better weapons and armor does help alot but nothing beats having really good skill in this game... So good players practice their timing to learn how to dodge attacks, and train muscle memory and reflexes to get better in the game instead of grinding levels.
They said that in GW2 the thief will require the most skills... but doesn't really seem that different compared to the combat with other classes in terms of difficulty. --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg05:15, 04 March 2012 (UTC)
"Watching GW2's combat, there doesn't seem like there is a lot a player can do to avoid or negate damage even if the person plays very well." <-- what? have you been watching the press baddies click skills and completely ignore the dodge button? cause that dodge button lets you completely ignore damage for a few seconds (and, I think, gives you a slight IMS to get the hell out of dodge) on a really short cd, it's super powerful and not knowing how to use it makes a huge difference in the damage you take -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 02:26, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Ignoring damage for a whole few seconds on a really short cd sounds way OP... I'm also dabbling with Dragon nest too, and they have a dodge skill with a short cd, about 5 seconds or less (depending on the dodge skill level), but only gives you about 0.5 seconds of invulnerability... still very useful against major boss attacks. But yeah the press videos are the ones I've been watching, and all I see is near mindless hot key rotation, and even their "skilled" theif player getting hit tons of times and missing dodges. If you can link me some videos of "skilled" videos of someone that's not just spamming hot keys but actually playing skillfully, that'd be great, and maybe I'd change my mind on GW2's lame combat. --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg19:48, 13 March 2012 (UTC)


Hello. Now that gw2 is just around the corner i realise that we (or I, at least) never played with other wiki members. Would it be possible to schedule a weekend in order to do an area along with some other wiki members like, for exemple, mallyx or any other area we would vote for. Serge Yseron 20:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

That would require me to reinstall the game. That, and I tried to play with other wiki members before, and it ended in more people hating me. Ask Cyan. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 21:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Seems like she is also waiting for gw2. I suppose that's it for gw1... Yseron - 21:06, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Settle Down[edit]

Remember your little crusade to get guilds to remove their Christian paraphernalia? It failed.

Now you’re preaching against the current name of the flux. This game is full of religious trappings. Get over it.

And don’t think the threat to kids is a valid platform to preach from. Only a few (not including you I would guess) even recognized the name of the flux as coming from the Bible and nobody is going to suddenly start believing in God because of it.

You’re supposed to be the rational one right, as opposed to the religious zealots? You’re coming off as the exact opposite.

Oh no, a verse from the Bible was referred to. That must mean Anet has a corporate sactioned religion and an agenda to promote its religion. All of its employees must share that faith and are in on the plan to indoctrinate the young player base with their corporate faith. Sound crazy? Sure, and yet that’s exactly what you’ve been saying.

You don’t play this game and aren’t going to be playing the next one. Why are you even here? If you were contributing something helpful I could understand but stirring up pedantic drama makes you look foolish, undermines your credibility and any future hopes of being taken seriously. Sardaukar User Sardaukar sig.png 12:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

I am wondering why I am still here too. Maybe I want this game to be good again, but reason tells me it is all wishful thinking. Also, I am not a kid, and knew exactly where the quote came from. Reading the bible from cover to cover is the fastest way of becoming an atheist :P Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 16:23, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I've barely touched the bible and I knew that one. Given how popular christianity is, I'd say claiming "Only a few" recognize the reference is pretty wrong. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 02:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Koda, you're easily comparable to the Guys in Westboro. You're a just a zealous nut. Seriously, you're no better than the bunch of crazy religious people you lobby so hard against. You bitch hard for no reason at all Oh my god, a quote that fits a certain effect! They're obviously brainwashing us and how the hell is it in our face, for the first time? Each time a Dervish comes and attacks me in FA isn't shoving the 'Islam is better' idea?

Grow a pair.

First off, screw you, Jon. If you are against freedom of speech, I oppose you. Second, I am entitled to my opinion, and you can disagree with me. Now, you can do that by comparing me to the Westboro Baptists for saying Anet should not shove bible quotes in kids' faces (and nothing more than that), but who is really comparable to "America's most hated family", me who merely has a strong opinion, or you who wants people to shut up and accept kids being confronted with religion every day?
I know the world is not changing because of me, and maybe this is all a bit exaggerated. But if nobody has the right of a voice, what is the point of having any conversation? Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 22:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

am I not giving my opinion off about you being a douche? And btw, I am able to compare you to the Westboro's for the fact that, not only is your argument completely irrational and over the top to 99% of people, it's insultive, exaggerated, and simply wrong.

let me give you examples:

This is the first time Anet throws it right in your face. That is the problem. Keep your religion away from kids.

-The Dervish is completely ripped off from islamic religion. -Abaddon, a boss that you MUST face at the end of NF, is taken from the Book Of Relevations. - A load of monsters, like the Naga, Leviathans, golems, are all something you can't just run away from (Unless you're the weird guy who uses Amity and dark escape)

Way to shove your religion into people's faces, Anet. Better get those kids to church where they can stay dumb. After all, you like dumb kids because they make you rich.

I must note that if this is shoving religion into people's faces, a quote that fits a simple effect in a relatively obscure game and doesn't even mention the source, then the simple fact of you posting your shit is trying to convert everybody to your dim outlook on life.

Man, don't even read what I posted here; look at the load of people who responded to you, telling you that you are the most closed off guy here on the wiki, and infer some kind of meaning. Seriously man, learn tolerance. None of us are for shoving religion into people's faces; this kind of behaviour starts that shit off in the first place. I had a friend who decided to make fun of a jehovah witness in college. Yes, it's liberty of expression, but he still got a criminal portfolio for it, given the fact he was so offensive about it. Now, i can't tell if you're offending relogion by being over the top, or atheism for being intolerant in general, but if i hit germany and make the nazi walk, i will get arrested, liberty of expression or not. There are just things that are over the top. The guy on the talk page was wrong, it's really Koda who bitches the longest and hardest!

I have to tolerate your intolerance? Not going to happen. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 12:07, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Wow, this section quickly grew a large tumor of dumb. Reverting troll posts is unjustified censorship? Freedom of speech exists on the internet? Having an opinion makes it worth touting to the world? And, best yet, telling you that you need to learn some tolerance is a form of intolerance? I mean, I like you, Koda, but damn. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 22:11, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
You know I dislike any form of censorship. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 22:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
I did too, until I realized that there are thought processes stupid and/or disruptive enough that I don't mind censoring them and that fighting a major battle over minor censorship issues isn't worth my time. Oh yeah - and freedom of speech (in the US constitution) simply means the government won't interfere with expressions that it doesn't like. It doesn't give anyone the right to be stupid. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 19:23, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
I live in the Netherlands, and here, freedom of speech still has its original meaning: everyone has the right to speak his or her mind as long as nobody is harmed by it, with some very small exceptions. The fact that the United States of Jesus needs rules to define what censorship is supposed to mean says enough of how religion poisons everything. These people need to be told what to think. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 00:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Wow, the Netherlands is pretty oppressive. In the US we're allowed to say things that harm everybody. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 00:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Actually, we have more freedom than in most other countries. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 16:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Not sure what you mean by needing rules to define censorship, but I'm no lawyer, so would you mind enlightening me? -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 16:37, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
Well, apparently it means something else in America than in the rest of the worst, unless you just chose a poor wording to describe censorship. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 18:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I don't think I described censorship. I described what the first amendment of the US constitution covers (though I called it "freedom of speech" and not "the first amendment to the US constitution", as that's how the vast majority of people refer to it), the entire wording of which is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 05:17, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

The thing is, the US was made with religious liberty in mind, so you can't pull a card there. Also, ask yourself this question: how do religions glorifying peace actually end up poisoning everything? I can't tell if every atheist can't think logically, but the answer is what humans made out of it. Mr ip up here talks about religion spoiling the USA, no. It's what humans make of it. That's why atheists call up upon Hitler being catholic; i can say that Stalin was atheist and killed more people. Stop being short-sighted and blaming it all on religion; know the real source of what's wrong.

Around 92% of all americans are religious, and it shows. The majority of them thinks evolution is a hoax, global warming is a lie, and Obama might be the anti-christ. That is how religion has poisoned minds. But we have gone way off-topic from my initial point that children should not be exposed to religion, so let us drop it here. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 16:00, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Actually, only ~83% of US citizens identify with a religion at all, and of those people many are religious in name only. The majority of Americans actually do acknowledge global warming [6]. And Obama received a majority of the popular vote in 2008, which indicates either that people wanted the anti-christ as their President or that you're full of shit. Take your pick. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 17:00, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Exactly... What you see on the media about americans are just a small minority of wackos with extreme ideas that yell the loudest with too much time on their hands. Shouldn't pay too much attention to the "popular media". If I did, I would think that the majority of europeans are lazy, racist, arrogant, neo-liberal, socialist, communist, entitled snobs, when in reality that only applies to the vast minority. --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg22:11, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
Oh man, it all makes sense now. I'm actually a european minority living in the wrong country. I must move back to my homeland immediately. Heil! -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 23:01, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Can we all stop being dumb in this section? I'd appreciate it. -Auron 01:47, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

I thought you said you've matured quite a bit? Perhaps a sweeping generalization coated with condescension says otherwise? Sardaukar User Sardaukar sig.png 02:11, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Of the five posters in this section before Auron stepped in, at least three had the dumb. Justified comment is justified. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 17:50, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
What Armond said. Some of the comments in this section were already banworthy, but I'd rather people just stopped being dumb than me having to hit them with banhammers of various sizes. -Auron 01:37, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
I was commenting on your choice of expression (used twice now). It’s inflammatory and you’re capable of better. Armond doesn’t need to fellate you either. :\ Sardaukar User Sardaukar sig.png 05:00, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Calling a spade a spade is inflammatory? I dunno, maybe I've just grown scales from all my time on PvX, but it really... doesn't seem it. (Also, you have the last part backwards.) -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 03:02, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
I think it's like that "R" word campaign where calling a retarded person a retard is insulting and inflammatory even though it would technically correct to call a retard a retard. While the word spade is benign, words that are used as an insult like dumb, idiot, etc can be inflammatory even if the person is being a dumb idiot. The wiki culture is a little "abrasive", so most but not all of the users developed a pretty thick skin so usage of these words don't "cause much issues". But I guess in the context of conflict avoidance, using words that are potentially inflammatory should be minimized, but what fun would that be? >:) --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg20:41, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
When the person who is supposed to be an example calls people dumb, you know the shit has hit the fan. Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 16:34, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

"You know I dislike any form of censorship" So let me lobby to censor everything I dislike!

Collector armor[edit]

Hello Koda Kumi,

First let me tell you about a rule on this wiki called One Revert. But that's not important.

To the heart of our discussion : you are right, collector armor with maximum armor rating can never be upgraded with an insignia.

However, collector armor with non-maximum armor rating can be upgraded with an insignia. At least as far as pre-searing is concerned.

If you have doubts, please try to create a new character and get some collector armor. Or just watch my main character (on my main page) if you think it is not possible : it has 620hp in pre-searing, despite wearing collector armor. Even with +60hp (staff), +30hp (vigor rune) and +4*10hp (vitae) i would only reach 480+60+30+40=610. You may tell me about the guild hall bug which allowed people to get a superior vigor rune but I can assure you I am not using a rune obtained that way. I'm using a minor storage rune and a fire magic rune, so i'm also lacking 20hp (two vitae runes) and my staff is not perfect and only grants +28+22=50 hp : the 40 missing health are earned through my survivor insignias (15+10+5+5+5).

Sorry for the long message, you had a good idea and I didn't mean to tackle it like I did.

Sincerely, Ruine-- 16:10, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

And where did I violate 1RR? Koda User Koda Kumi Horns1.GIF 18:29, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Oh, right, my bad. Well, like I said, that isn't important anyway. The info you wanted to point out is now there, and everyone is happy.-- 23:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)