User talk:Lilondra/Gamebalance/Pveskills

Really. I want PvE to be balanced. But it's not just buffing up non-title skills to be the copies of PvE only skills. Look! PvE only skills need a nerf. Monsters on the other hand, need to be weakened too. Dungeons should be about good player coordination, not imbagon+damage+HB or Perma+cryers+hb and reap rewards. Also polymock pieces need to have double the current drop rate.

So I would suggest:

Cry of Pain deal only 40..70 damage, but deal an extra 10..40 damage on interrupts.

"Save Yourselves!" Should not be affected by leadership

or

"Save Yourselves!" All other party members gain 40 armor. they have an additional 5 armor for each rank in strength (this should pass armor cap)

or

"Save Yourselves!" All other party members gain 40 armor and 2%damage reduction for each rank in strength (reduction calculated after armor bonus)

And I would appreciate if asuran scan would not concentrate on physical damage (asurans are magicians by nature)

Asuran Scan changed functionality to: Hex spell: duration: 8 seconds. Foes hexed with this spell have their armor set to 40.

5 0 15

This would not buff the famous Cryway to a level when PvE isn't fun, but would add some damage. the 8/15 uptime would promote good chaining, or at least coordinated nukes.

And finally the problem what needs TO BE DONE!!! (sorry but I am just angry about this one)

Shadow Form

10 1 30 Skill. for 25 seconds you have 50% chance to block attacks, spells against you have 50% chance to fail, and you gain 40 armor.

(well maybe reduced armor would help, but I think it's ok

Holy c--- this wiki had logged me out. Boro 13:35, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

lol didn't read trough the whole gamebalance article: sorry

p ;) Lilondra *gale* 06:52, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Anet showed often enough they do not care for PvE. If they would, something should have been done months ago. Instead, we get the frumphteenth hero battle weekend and the swafflehundreth lightbringer farming weekend. Koda Kumi talk 22:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Cry of pain is too powerful. Recharge or energy cost must be raised, exhaustion wont be bad too.

• Cry of Pain

10 ¼ 30 -> will make it used less frequently per unit of time. Not each 12 seconds. But each 30 seconds.

• Cry of Pain

15 ¼ 12 Now causes exhaustion. -> will make certain power drain along with exhaustion to teach not to use it so frequently.

--Jagtiger 13:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

You realise those pve skills just are REPLACED with pve only versions right ?

You didn't do the volfen form properly. It should be Volfen Blessing : Changed functionality to : For 20 seconds you inflict Wounding Strike on foes. 10, 0, 15--Silven 08:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Barrage...

Don't like the changes made to it, do you know how much dmg you could do when using preperations? did you even consider that? Imagine next team build. The skills used, if you changed any, then I use your version.

Might change it later.Anyway the changes will mainly be elite skills that are buffed or in the case of Shadowform nukd/revampd Lilondra *poke* 08:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

For the ones that wanna say that the build sucks, it's an example and made in 5 minutes, the pets are just to block and to KD running creeps while also be able to provide Interruptions if it's still needed, didn't put in any extra bow attacks because those would be disabled by Lilondra's Barrage version for 1 second, The N/Rt and paragon are just optional lol, didn't know what else to put in a team of 8. Qaletaqa Hania 14:57, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

a) I nerfd it since your right b) I'm removing all pve skills.Also this pve skill change is not ready at all Lilondra *poke* 15:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I was about to say that even without the PvE skills it would still be to good. Qaletaqa Hania 15:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm still forming the Idea of general PvE balance.But Imo monsterlvls should be brought back to lvl 18-24 To be balanced once again.Monster skills should be reduced to a minimum and just good builds should be given to them.Mobs should be given important but slow casting skills proving the point of shutdown and so on.PvE balance is about as complex as pvp balance.Only half as important imo Lilondra *poke* 15:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... your nerf is a bit to harsh now, I would keep Barrage as it is now in the game. It's a good and well balanced skill. I've never stopped using it in 4 years.

And yeah just was something I saw, just wanted to point you out that the buff would've been more then imba. Btw I like the adjustements made to the creeps in UW, FoW, and other areas for the most part. I think the creeps should have better team builds, also they should use all 8 skill slots, like team builds in PvP, it would close the gap between PvP and PvE more. Qaletaqa Hania 15:14, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Might change it later.Anyway the changes will mainly be elite skills that are buffed or in the case of Shadowform nukd/revampd Lilondra *poke* 08:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)