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Error on the French festival page YET AGAIN...

As last year, the French festival page available at http://www.guildwars.com/events/ingame/dragon_festival/fr/ gives bad information about when the finale occurs. From the article :

Empereur Kisu fera des apparitions toutes les deux heures du lundi 5 juillet à 11H00 jusqu'au mardi 6 juillet à 08H59 (heure française).

which translates into :

Emperor Kisu will appear every 2 hours from monday the 5^th at 11AM to Tuesday the 6^th at 08H59 (at Paris time).

But in the table at the bottom it says:

Dimanche 5 juillet

[...]

Evénement final Toutes les deux heures à partir de 11H00, le dernier démarre à 08H59 (06/07)

which translates into :

Sunday 5^th of July

[...]

Finale Every 2 hours from 11H00, last one at 08H59 (6^th)

Of course as sunday is really the 5^th, it looks like the table is right and the article is wrong. This is the second year in a row this happens!!! Jaxom 08:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry about this, Jaxom. I will forward this to our localization team. Thanks. --Regina Buenaobra 21:25, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I think it's a little late now :/ Karate Jesus 21:26, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Even if I had logged in on the wiki at the weekend and read this message on the 5th of July when it was posted, and submitted the message to the localization and web team, unfortunately this probably would not have gotten changed on the website in time for the festival. --Regina Buenaobra 21:45, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed but the page itself was posted kind of late on the site. The point is more to have them (the localization team) check and re-check the template page they seem to re-use from last year to avoid this kind of error happening a 3^rd time next year ;) Jaxom 20:30, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You're right, Jaxom. Our Loc team should have caught this error. We've gotten in touch with them and told them that this is the second year in a row that it has happened, so they are aware of this for the future. --Regina Buenaobra 23:50, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

In-Game Appearances

When and where do you typically make them? Or where can I go to find that information? Do you make them? 68.58.91.59 06:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

The community team doesn't have a schedule for when we appear in-game. If we do appear in-game to speak to the public, it's generally in the Great Temple of Balthazar, International District 1. --Regina Buenaobra 22:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

European English District

The European English districts are hardly European English anymore. Most of the English players went to the American servers due to the larger player base and less dutch language spam infested local chats. It gets to a point where it's pretty annoying to have local full of an entire different language all day. 86.1.180.54 15:28, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe, i'm Dutch (Flemish). I talk English in games, sometimes Flemish in Guild Chat but yes I have noticed alot of Dutch players talking Dutch in English districts, it's not their fault tho, there are no Dutch districts and you can't force people to talk English (would be discriminating if you ask me). FYI, Flemish is a Dutch dialect, we understand Dutch, but Dutch people often have trouble understanding Flemish and often say we are dumb/stupid. Anyway where I live the dialects differ from region to region, go 30 kilometers in each direction and you will notice a difference in the language.

What i'm saying is, there are to few Dutch people playing the game to make Dutch districts for and even when they would do something like that then there is a possibility that there will be trouble between the Dutch and Flemish people, most are ok with the differences but some aren't. Qaletaqa Hania 19:57, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Basically, I agree that it's annoying sometimes, but there's no solution, so just deal with it. Rose Of Kali 22:52, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

As a person who lived in Flanders for awhile, although it is true that their are slight dialect differences between Flemish and Nederlanders, I don't think its accurate to say that some Dutch can't understand the flemish. I think its more accurate to say that some people are biased towards the other nation and thus pretend not to understand them however it is not anet's place to keep those players apart. To get back to the OP's point though, the issue isn't that the dutch are in the english district, the issue is that the dutch don't have a district of their own which is a shame, although as a person who has several dutch guild mates, I have to admit I'm somewhat glad they don't as otherwise I wouldn't have bumped into those guys. :) -- Salome 06:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

The issue isn't that the Dutch are in the Euro English district. The issue is that they dont speak English in the Euro English district. It's called Euro English for a reason, and I don't know about you but when I go to a European English district I expect players there to use European English. I have nothing against Dutch players, I just want to be able to have an English conversation in an English district without it being bombarded by foreign languages. 86.1.180.54 09:53, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

That is something I've seen a lot in the four years I've been playing. "Hey! This is the ENGLISH district! Go somewhere else, foreign person!" That's just not right, is it? What is this, apartheid, GW-style? These people are not talking to you and it's something that's very easy to ignore. As to the related topic, I think that if it were not such a hard thing to do, a Dutch-language server would be a very good idea. I've no idea of the figures, but I'd say there's at least as many Dutch players as there are French or German or Spanish. But it ain't happening, right? --snograt 12:21, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Extra districts may be nice... but we also need to learn to share. People might end up speaking another language for many reasons. In our Guild for example, we sometimes start speaking Spanish, despite that for many of us, this language is a second or third language. We enjoy practicing it. I respect that others may have their reasons to speak other languages. -- Alaris 13:27, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd advocate for your point only if they were getting angry at the people speeking english in these districts, It would be helpful if they wanna carry conversations to take it out of local chat tho MrPaladin talk 13:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Extra districts may be nice... but we also need to learn to share. So by this logic we should just merge all the European districts into one and have an international language fest on one server? it's something that's very easy to ignore But why should I be forced to ignore local chat on the server I'm native to? That is something I've seen a lot in the four years I've been playing. "Hey! This is the ENGLISH district! Go somewhere else, foreign person!" Which proves it's a bigger problem than some care to admit because it does annoy alot of players. 86.1.180.54 14:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Do I go yelling at people in a restaurant because they speak a foreign language? No. I don't see why that behavior would be acceptable in a game, if it is not in life. Perhaps the problem is in those who get annoyed. Having said that, I did say that extra districts would be nice, so that comment about putting all districts into one is really out of place. -- Alaris 14:19, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Do I go yelling at people in a restaurant because they speak a foreign language? No. I don't see why that behavior would be acceptable in a game, if it is not in life. No one said it was acceptable. However you have to sit and think why this is annoying people and what is causing a problem in the first place for people to get so irate. Perhaps the problem is in those who get annoyed. Maybe, but maybe if the foreign players in our district had a bit more consideration for how some of us feel about it then maybe it wouldn't be as big a problem. It takes two to tango. Having said that, I did say that extra districts would be nice, so that comment about putting all districts into one is really out of place. No not really, you have taken the comment out of context. 86.1.180.54 14:38, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

How is 2 people chatting crap in dutch any more annoying than 2 people chatting crap in English? At least when it's a language you don't understand you can pretend to yourself it was probably an insightful and witty comment, with the english local chat you don't get that luxury and get to see the aneurysm inducing idiocy right their in the open. -- Salome 18:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Just what the world needs, more segregation. *rolls eyes* --★KOKUOU★ 19:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

@Kokuou: Agreed. @Salome: Agreed. @86: How did I take that comment out of content? And I think you messed up on the tango analogy... besides, I stand by my point that in this case, it's the person getting annoyed that easily that is the problem. Extra districts are nice to give them a place to go and find people that speak their language, but regardless, I would not want to force them in other districts even if they willingly choose to join our English districts and choose to speak their language. I view "English district" as meaning "District in which you'll mostly (but not uniquely) find English speakers". -- Alaris 20:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there aren't any plans to add more language districts. We have language districts that the game is translated into. I can understand that there will be tensions between English speakers with non-English speakers in English districts, but I'd like to hope that English speakers can be tolerant of non-English speakers who are in the English districts to hang out, trade, or to find a party, and that non-English speakers could be understanding of the fact that they are visiting a district in which the primary language is English. Hopefully players can find social ways to address this issue, given the fact that there are no plans to add more districts in different languages. --Regina Buenaobra 21:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that non-English people playing on English servers is the problem, but that almost all English players play on American servers nowdays. I don't remember when i had a full party of English speaking people on European English server last time... - J.P.Talk 22:06, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

solution could be renaming the english district to dutch district and unite english and american to a more general international english dis ;D - Wuhy 09:00, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

The way it currently is they may aswell. 86.1.180.54 22:56, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

No, no, no. Let me explain lol. If that would happen many more "Omg it's so frigin laggy" reports would be seen. Why? More distance between the servers and the players, so more can and will go wrong. I don't know where the International servers are located at, so I might be wrong.

* Europeans -> Germany

* Americans -> L.A. or Austin?

* International -> ?.

Where is the International Server located at?

Anyway it wouldn't change a thing, less players on the European servers means that all the other players would just follow and go where the most players are, resulting in the same problem we have now. It's normal human behavior to follow the pack, we are social creatures. Qaletaqa Hania 02:17, 30 July 2009 (UTC)