Talk:Bone Horror

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[edit] Damage

A level 18 character with 12 Hammer Mastery should inflict 18~33 damage on critical hits and ~47 damage on critical hits vs AL 60. Furthermore, minion critical damage isn't maxed before the damage multiplier. -- Gordon Ecker 07:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

A level 18 character with 12 Hammer Mastery actually inflicts 17-32 damage, since 19 x 90.1% is ~17 and 35 x 90.1% is ~32. Critical hits are based off of max weapon damage x 141%, which is 49. Minions do 17-49 damage, so my hypothesis should stand. I will not dispute your note on minion critical damage not being maxed on crits, but this is something that should have been added to my information, not as an agrument to take it away. On wiki we don't delete a whole page when one sentence is flawed, and so should not delete a section that merely lacks full information. The math is there as per the Damage article, and if you do not dispute it within two weeks I shall replace my information. I don't want an edit war, so if you have information that disputes mine, present it here and I will not revert. -- Arkhar 00:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

But "deal damage as though wielding a max damage hammer at a Hammer Mastery rank of 12" implies the same critical hit rate, which has not been tested, and the same critical hit damage, which is known to be false. I don't think the fact that level 18 Bone Horrors have the same non-critical damage range as level 18 hammer warriors with 12 Hammer Mastery is relevant unless it's part of a pattern, which cannot be determined without more data. -- Gordon Ecker 02:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of which, I'm currently compiling a table of minion damage ranges, it should be complete fairly soon. -- Gordon Ecker 05:13, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The table is complete and posted at talk:minion. -- Gordon Ecker 07:32, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

This is a wiki, and a massive amount of information here is irrelevant, which does not by itself disqualify it from inclusion. Perhaps as trivia? -- Arkhar 21:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Some1 fix it, it doesn't fit on a 1024 screen ~ SCobra 10:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

What doesn't?-- Arkhar 23:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Damage Type

I've done some testing and it would seem that these guys do Blunt damage, thanks to the following:

Since level 18s do minimum 17 against AL 60, and this character only has >60 AL against Blunt, the minion must be doing Blunt.-- Arkhar 23:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Armor

Did a couple quick tests and some quick math, and it would seem 24 and 61 are the most likely armor values for level 5 and 15 minions, respectively. 61 is certain, since if it were 60 then all spells would do listed damage, and Deathly Swarm did 92 instead of 94. Just wanted a single most probable value for each level. -- Arkhar 00:53, 7 January 2008 (UTC)