Talk:Lyssa

Uselessness?

Seems to be the most useless god(dess). Noctarch 02:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Err . . . if you're talking about game benefits, the +10 energy blessing is wonderful for most classes, and the hex timer thing is no better or worse than the condition one that Grenth has. And of course if you're an assassin or a mesmer she's pretty much your gal . . . .

Where's the useless? In the story? Don't remember running into anything that would show it. --Star Weaver 03:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The blessings are fine if not great - I thought about her importance in GW lore and the story. Noctarch 17:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

In nightfall she was given more importance, being the Godess of choice for most Elonians. Once Great King 01:41, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Lore-wise I think she has an important role. We have the gods of life, death, nature and war; what are we missing? Human nature. Lyssa represents humans (or sentience at least) quite well, I think: she's vain, clever, and two-faced. --Mme. Donelle 02:28, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Across the three continents, she has been worshipped as the goddess of beauty, pleasure, chaos, luck, art, illusion, deception, trickery, and duality. I'd hardly call those concepts "useless". She has the widest scope of influence compared to the other gods. -- ab.er.rant 02:37, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Melandru: "Earth!"

Balthazar: "Fire!"

Dwayna: "Wind!"

Grenth: "Water!"

Lyssa: "Heart!"

GO PLANET!!! >.> Arshay Duskbrow 04:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The above comment made me laugh uncontrollably. Brilliant! This should be added to the Trivia pages for the gods (sarcasm) Green Arrow 22:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Unfavoured Statue

I've been contemplating Lyssa's statue while sitting in ToA, awaiting favour. I think I've figured out why the statue is covered in vines when the world has no favour -- they're thorns. Being the goddess of beauty but also of duality and wrath, she's like a rose: beautiful but dangerous. This sounded more profound in my head, but I just thought it was a nice touch. *shrug* --Mme. Donelle 06:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Makes sense to me ~ Kurd 08:52, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

How many?

Lyssa is singular...so is it two goddesses or one? Is it like a schizophrenic goddess? What exactly is up with the "twin" part of "twin goddess"?

Lyssa is the name for the combination. The goddesses as individuals don't have *known* names, though one is suspected to be "Lyss" due to the Festival of Lyss and Mirror of Lyss. Though, Lyss can just be another name for Lyssa as a combination. I always thought of Lyssa as a kind of Siamese twins. It is, however, definably two goddesses, and Lyssa is a singular term. However, when talking about Lyssa, while the term is singular, talking about them is plural. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 03:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit: At least, that is how I believed it is shown. In Prophecies there is no "she" that I can recall (and "she" in reference to Lyssa is rare as it is). -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 04:14, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing she can become "one body, two minds" or "two bodies, one mind" as she pleases. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Fourteen months of playing a Mesmer and I just figured that out. -Maskeus 12:36, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Kotaki's concept art

All the other representations and murals of Lyssa support that she is a Diad - a being which is two but only one, and is only complete when described in all of its parts (I know this sounds confusing. Think of the Christian Trinity). In the Ascalon city mural, she is two. In the Plaza of the Six God in Gandara, she is very distinctly two. In every, single, last one of her statues throughout all the three continents, she is two, twin sisters, intertwined with one another; that is Lyssa. So where does this guy get off? Is that only one of the twins? If so, she is incomplete, like a person missing half their brain, or their body being gone. Any explanation on this anywhere? 141.165.171.240 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Concept art of the avatar form (different head from the end product clearly), humans taking the form of the gods cannot become two bodies. The avatar form's end product shows multiple faces, however. -- Konig/talk 01:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Very true everything you two have said. But I'll be damned if Kotaki's concept piece isn't hot. :3 --Ravencroft0 13:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

In the text on her statue on ToA she appears in a story as a single woman, not two. The statues and murals are just conceptual representations of her being the goddes of duality.Lokheit 00:47, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Lyssa is a pair of goddesses in her "natural state", but she can appear however she wants to (considering half of her is the goddess of illusion). I would suggest reading the manuscripts, they have a lot of information. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 01:31, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Redundant trivia

"In Greek mythology, Lyssa is a daughter of Nyx and Uranus. She is the goddess of rabies and mad rage. Rabies, a deadly disease which affects the brain (and named after the Latin word for "mad rage", such being one of the symptoms of rabies) is caused by a type of virus known as a Lyssavirus."

Ever considered,... That the Lyssavirus, causing rabies, was named after Lyssa the goddess, of rabies and mad rage? I'm taking the bit 'bout the Lyssavirus down, feel free to revert if you have good reason to. --84.26.78.183 22:33, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

That's quite interesing, as I consider Lyssa the Goddess of Chaos - mesmer and energy storage weapons manipulate chaos energy and Lyssa's magic is often dealing in raw energy too. Chaos is often considered synonymous with destruction (rabies and mad rage) and therefore "bad", but it should also be synonymous with creation (because chaos is the font of creation), hence there are two faces to chaos, one of destruction (like Autumn) and another of renewal (like Spring). Cirian 18:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Possible Inspiration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus Might the idea of a goddess with two faces be inspired by this Roman god with Indian roots? Freaper 16:34, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't think so. Duality is a common concept, tbh. -- Konig/talk 01:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Lame

There are only two statues from which to gain blessings in explorable areas in ALL of Elona? Seriously? And they're supposed to be such big fans of hers...--Ph03n1x 05:37, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Take note of the section stub. I don't think we have EVERY statue if all 5 documented, at least for Elona.Konig/talk 05:41, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Hm. Well, I'll keep a lookout, then.--Ph03n1x 16:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Allusion

Recently, in class of English Studies. I learn of person's name who sounds similar and coincidentally near spelling of Lyssa. Lysias's speech of love. She is revered as beauty and illusion, thus beauty of illusion is love. However, I need someone to check if it's incorrect, more likely. --[[User:guest] 5:43, 13 September 2012 (UTC)