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Prophecies Only[edit]

The elite skill chart had an addition error - there are 60 Prophecies elites, and 30 Core elites, so a Prophecies-only player can cap 90 elites and attain the first tier of Skill Hunter. So I'm going to chop out the comment to the effect they can't, because that is in error. -- Dawn

Addition never was my strong suit... thanks.--Vladtheemailer 08:42, 9 February 2007 (PST)

I have to admire the difference in number to get each rank: 1st Rank = 90 elites, 2nd Rank = +45 more, 3rd Rank = +45 more, 4th Rank = +55 more, 5th Rank = +55 more, and the 6th Rank = +90 more. You see? from rank 0 to rank 1 is 90, and from rank 5 to rank 6 its 90, and its an average of 50 per rank for the other ones :( 68.104.205.160 15:54, 7 April 2007 (EDT)

This page needs serious editing. With hard mode, I'm sure some people have maxed some titles (if not all 4). I'd do the changes and get the credits for it, except I'm at work!

this doesn't exist anymore...[edit]

delete? or are we going to keep articles about things that don't exist anymore in some kind of archive? maybe a special category and template to indicate it is a feature that is no longer present --Lemming64 21:08, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

its still considered skill hunter and i just changed it for the new titles, didn't see this comment before change MrKnez 21:47, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

No Factions?[edit]

Is it possible to get the Nightfall skill hunter title without having Factions? The way I see it, there are several elites for Ritualists/Assassins in Nightfall, which you wouldn't be able to cap without a Factions account. Or am I missing something?

You can get the Skill Hunter title for the games you own. All the elites are contained in that game, including cores, and skills for other professions. You'd have to cap the rit & sin skills as secondary profession, which you can change at profession changers. Alaris 14:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
To me it seems like he'S right, you can't have secondary rit or sin if you don't have Factions --74.59.237.118 16:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Good point, can you get access to secondary rit or assassin through nightfall without a factions account? --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 16:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I admit, I don't know. There is a profession changer in Battle Isles that you can use regardless of the campaigns you own (provided you ascended), but I don't know if that profession changer will allow you access to rit/sin if you don't own Factions. Alaris 18:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
It's been a while, and there's an anomaly sign now about this... but has the issue been resolved? I own all campaigns, so I cannot test it. We need someone with NF but not Factions to try to cap rit or sin skills. He might have to change professions at the Battle Isles if it doesn't work in NF. Alaris 04:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
I have NF, EOTN, and PROF but not FACT, is is not possible to change my profession to sin or rit. I can't get the title. I think this is a problem. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.39.240.103 (talk).
True, but that's the way it works. There's probably no feasible way to make this change, since the title does not take profession into account. In hindsight, given that each campaign was meant to be standalone, it was probably not a good decision to include ritualists and assassins in Nightfall PvE. The new skills could've been introduced as PvP unlockables, or back-added to Factions PvE. -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 04:55, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

what about capping a normal skills like flame djinn haste from Borrguus Blisterbark from GWEN without having nightfall? will that work? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.169.3.7 (talk).

cleanup[edit]

why? did I miss something. what do eye of the north skills have to do with this title? --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 23:58, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

it what i thinked but was not sure and was not sure if im authorized or not to put a change on other page...it why im on the history..wanted to remove the cleanup ....Warzy 01:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

remove cleanup[edit]

talked alot with fews peoples and this titles still work,not know why Dragon legacy wanted to cleanup that but ...

cleanup removed.

message me if i miss something.. Warzy 21:21, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The numbers are incorrect. According to the list, GWEN brings 3 new elite skills into the game. I called them "norn blessings". I will be raising any numbers about elite skills by 3 whenever it seems appropriate. ~ dragon legacy 01:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Switching Classes?[edit]

How are you suppose to get all of the elite skills if the signet of capture will only work on your primary and secondary classes? If anyone could answer please let me know! Thanks --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:76.88.105.185 .

You can switch your secondary class. --LemmingUser Lemming64 sigicon.png 12:41, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
More specifically, once you get to a certain point in the game (Ascend in Tyria, become closer to the stars in Cantha, do the quest Hunted in Elona), you get the ability to switch your secondary profession. You can for example go to the battle isles to "buy" the other secondary professions, then you can change at will. Alaris 20:01, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
You can't switch your secondary to Rit or Sin if you don't have factions, although you can still unlock the nightfall elites for those professions using Balthazar Faction. Unsure if this adds to the title or not...
Unlocking elites does not add to the title. You need to unlock, and then use an elite tome for each skill. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 23:19, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Lightbringer Signet[edit]

I believe they have fixed the bug. When I acquired my Lightbringer signet I saw my title track move from 26 --> 27. I will be removing from article if there are no objections. (If I forget to come back, someone else can remove it...) --Chris Burnham 23:42, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Eye of the north add to tittle?[edit]

Eye of the north has elite skills from proph,nightfall,factions if captured with a sig in eye of the north will it count as cathing it for the individual tittles?.

Ex i cap barrage in eye of the north do i get the point for capping a proph skill? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Atrix .

Yes. Because you're essentially capping a Prophecies elite. -- ab.er.rant sig 06:41, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Core skills like Barrage count towards all three Skill Hunter titles, regardless of where you cap it from. I can confirm that this is true for elites capped in any of the 3 campaigns, so I assume it is true as well of elites captured in GW:EN. Alaris 18:55, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Elites captured in GW:EN count towards the title tract for the campaign the elite is from. So for example you capture an elite that is from Factions only, that would count towards the title for that campaign just as if you had captured it in Cantha.(Zypher Wynn 02:37, 5 October 2007 (UTC))

I'm confused[edit]

I do not own Nightfall yet I have 4 of the Elonian Title track points. I do not own Factions yet I have 4 of the canthan Title track points. Why? --Worldly Tutor 04:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Core skills count on all tracks. - User HeWhoIsPale sig.PNG HeWhoIsPale 04:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Elite Skill Tome & Skill Hunter Title[edit]

Is the Skill Hunter title updated when using an Elite Skill Tome? If not, then it is possible to have the Skill Hunter title impossible to master because of the use of an Elite Tome, nah? --User RAd1cAl EdwArd Guildwiki-icon-small.pngRAd1cAl_EdwArd 22:24, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the Skill Hunter title is updated when you use an Elite Tome. --Valshia 22:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Level 5 Character with Legendary Skill Hunter?[edit]

Tell me I'm wrong. Take a Tyrian character doing only the minimal to get out of pre searing and then go to Cantha and ascend there. Then if you're rich enough buy a bunch of elite tomes and get Legendary Skill Hunter on a level 5. Are there any flaws in my plan? The point of ascending is to change your secondary profession for the title and along with that if you are even rich enough you can wear fissure armor at level 5 since you'll be able to enter the realm of the gods.

Wouldn't that be cool? You'd be a real Nimros the Hunter, although you'd be 3 levels higher. I challenge someone to ascend at an even lower level if possible and tell how.

They'd have to get to rank 3 of Lightbringer for Lightbringer Signet. That Sounds Risky | 04:01, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Doesn't matter as of the update today... =D
don't you get xp for capturing an elite? Even if it is with a tome? Well anyway, just get a lv 1 char from proph to cantha, ask a friend to run the quest and missions for you (you stay at the beginning so you don't get xp from monsters and only get standard reward from the missions), you should be lv 4 then i think. 13:14, 16 december 2008

141/140[edit]

It seems that if you got Lightbringer Signet when it was an elite, you still get the additional skill capture on your Elonian title track. That means that you really would have to capture 139 elite skills and have gotten Lightbringer Signet to get to 140/140. --Rykker Mohrah 14:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Is this correct? If so, that means that I could skip capturing one elite skill. :o --66.252.176.74 21:55, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Actually I'm tearing my hair out trying to figure out what skill I'm missing! I've been over teh complete list several times and remember capping the last 85 (it was a marathon) but my count only says 139! I got LB Gaze and I've checked every single other skill and have the other two titles already. So I'm stuck at 139...--76.121.64.205 23:40, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
I made a list of all the skills and have been checking them off as I go. Currently the skills left on my list add up to 139! I went through the whole list again and checked the wiki's list and haven't figured out which it is. Animedragon67 01:57, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

question[edit]

i see alot of like faction elites in nightfall and im guessing there core skills, but my question is far can u get in the skill hunter for prof and factions if u just go threw nightfall The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.85.230.85 (talk • contribs) at 04:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC).

There are only 30 Core elite skills. This is mentioned in the "Notes" section. Btw, it's "through" not "threw". -- ab.er.rant User Ab.er.rant Sig.png 04:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Tips?[edit]

I think there should be a tip section that talks about what eiltes are better to get via Elite Tome.75.165.125.104 07:38, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't provide a list, but here's some ideas... Some bosses share their spawn point with many other bosses, so even getting to them does not guarantee that they'll be there. This is even more problematic for bosses in remote locations, or at the end of long or difficult missions. So a general way to go about it would be to get all the easy ones / bosses that happen to spawn, and keep the books for the last few ones when you're getting fed up with trying to get skill X. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 14:52, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Prophecies skills are the hardest, so if you were talking bout using Elite Tomes, I would like to think skills like Feast Of Corruption would be listen down, but most of the skills are fairly easy to cap, just time consuming, seeing that wiki has maps of where all the bosses are DarthD 09:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Some prophecies skills are long to get to, especially those at the end of snake's pass (or something) or at the end of a long mission. Most skills in Factions and Nightfall are fun to get, except perhaps for the last few missions which may be too difficult for some players. I'd still keep the tome for the end, where you can more easily decide whether you'd rather go for the long path, or the more difficult path. -- Alaris_sig Alaris 02:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah I second this - definitely save the tomes for Prophecies skills. I capped all of Factions without much trouble (without using tomes).

tomes[edit]

This may have appeared on the talk or main page, but if so I missed it. If I get the skill via a tomb, will it count, or do I have to cap it with a signet? jhgaylor 10:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes it counts 81.106.16.151 21:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Miscalculation?[edit]

Right, I might just have missed something... but it seems my Elonian Skill Hunter title track isn't counting one of my skills. I have captured Expert's Dexterity, Burning Arrow, Prepared Shot, Light of Deliverance, Contagion, Reaper's Mark, Icy Shackles, Avatar of Balthazar, Avatar of Dwayna, Avatar of Grenth, Avatar of Melandru, Pious Renewal and Reaper's Sweep, all from Nightfall. in addition I have the core skills Barrage, Shield of Regeneration and Grenth's Balance. I make that 13+3=16 skills for the title track. The game makes it 15. Now, i might just be missing something, of course. But the figures for the Canthan and Tyrian titles are correct, so I'm rather at a loss here. Any thoughts? -- FoaT 04:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Silly me. Reaper's Sweep was Melonni's, not mine. -- FoaT 13:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Mix up[edit]

"Before the hard mode update, there was only one Skill Hunter title track, progressing from Skill Hunter → Adept Skill Hunter → Advanced Skill Hunter → Elite Skill Hunter → Expert Skill Hunter → Master Skill Hunter. Master Skill Hunter was never achievable as there was an insufficient amount of elite skills in the game at that time."

I was looking through my pictures today and I had a picture of my character with Elite Skill Hunter [5]. I'd also imagine I wouldn't have taken the picture if it wasn't the max title at that time. I believe the titles are mixed up with Elite being the 5th tier. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.201.235.177 (talk).

Not sure exactly what you mean but titles don't have any tiers except for the legendary skill hunter title track. They have been separated to 4 separate titles that can be maxed instead of one. --Lania ElderfireUser Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg 04:43, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
Before the hard mode update, there was in fact only one title, as is clearly stated in the article. That's what the OP was referring to. Please at least read the article before commenting. 83.161.196.159 21:50, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Checklist[edit]

Tired of repeatedly checking the Priest of Balthazar, I decided to get ambitious and violate one of my cardinal rules (namely "Thou shalt not type") and made a .txt list of all elite skills in a checklist format, sorted by proffession and attribute (indicating which campaign they come from as well). I would like to share this checklist with the wiki community; unfortunately the wiki does not permit .txt format files to be uploaded, so I have resorted to creating a new page found here. Hopefully it will provide others with a printable, or copy/paste-to-text-file document that will assist us all in achieving the skill hunter titles. Gwynna Vive 21:59, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

HoM Trophy[edit]

I do not know if it needs to be noted that the trophy for Tyrain Skill hunter is what appears to be a Mursaat that was just slain and is kneeling over. Possible trivia? Mantis Touch (large).jpg Sheon talk to meh 01:37, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

The Factions one is a Shiroken (assassin?), and the Nightfall one is Palow Joko (or some other undead). Sucks that the "Legendary" trophy is so "meh" 68.104.204.103 06:52, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Legendary[edit]

Can you get legendary by completing each of the tracks on different characters? (Aka: While the main title tracks are character based, is the legendary one account based?) - J

No. But, since they will be unlocked, you can use elite tomes to teach the same skills to the other toons. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:29, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Does this count for other titles that acquire legendary like cartographer vanquisher and guardian as well? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.195.101.155 (talk • contribs) at 00:52, 7 June 2011 (UTC).
I don't understand the question: there is no relationship between skill hunter, cartographer, vanquisher, and guardian, other than you can work on them together (e.g. capping skills and clearing fog while VQing or completing missions). All of these titles are character-based, meaning your progress on one toon has no effect on any other. Please take a look at Title, which covers this topic in more detail. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 01:47, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
The "Legendary ..." titles are separate title tracks, so I thought that similarly to the "walking amongst mortals" one it would count if the title tracks were completed on different characters and the legendary one was account based, which would be logical. But there doesn't seem to be any indication of the title type of the legendary tracks. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.195.101.155 (talk • contribs) at 02:28, 7 June 2011 (UTC).
While GWAMM does count account-based titles like the Treasure Hunter and Wisdom title tracks, it's actually a character-based title track.Zetta 02:46, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

(Edit conflict)

I believe that the original poster is conflating several distinct concepts:
  • As Zetta notes, GWAMM is a character title; it can only be earned by a toon that earns 30 titles.
  • There are a handful of titles that only need be earned once and then count for each character; none of those are Legendary.
  • The legendary titles are all earned by earning other (related) titles; in that way, they are similar to GWAMM (except that, unlikely legendaries, GWAMM itself does not count as a title).
  • None of the titles give any help in-game as to whether they are account- or character-based; they all say when you have earned..., rather than when your character has earned... or when all characters have earned....
In any case, Title covers this well. It specifically names each account-based title. There's a good rule of thumb: all the account-wides are either PvP-based, related to opening treasure (Wisdom, Lucky/Unlucky, Treasure), or Kurzick/Luxon. (The last pair do not fit any pattern I can discern.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh damnit, my bad, I didn't know GWAMM was character based. That kinda sucks. You'd think something that important would be account based.

PROBLEM! D:[edit]

User PalkiaX50 Going to cap Defy Pain.jpg
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User PalkiaX50 After Capping Defy Pain.jpg

Ok something seemed to be really messed up with my title (tyrian skill hunter)....I've been capping more prophs and core skills today to try to max it but i've noticed it was at 67/90 and is not changing AT ALL whenever I cap an elite -.- . And yes, the elites I'm capping are as I said, prophs and core...Has any1 else had to put up with this crap? PalkiaX50 21:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

With skill hunter, the only way to troubleshoot that I know of is to tediously make a list of skills that you have...and all that you need. And the painstakingly compare. Once you can confirm (i.e. with a screenshot) a couple of previously uncapped skills that do not increment 67→68 and beyond, we can offer you more specific (and more useful) help. I'm sorry you are having trouble and that I cannot offer a silver bullet to kill this more easily.
While you are comparing lists, mebbe you can post the names of a couple of the recent skills that you tried (and the bosses); maybe there's a specific pattern that we can recognize. (I think it unlikely to be the cause, but there was a bug introduced with the July 7 update and that some people observed while capping. However, by all accounts, this was resolved satisfactorily by the July 8 update; .)
Good luck and keep us posted. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 01:09, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Well, as for bosses I capped from they are Skintekaru Manshredder, Saevio Proelium, Chor the Bladed, Ferk Mallet, Charr Prison Guard, Churrta the Rock and Vision of Despair. Also, I resorted to using an Elite ranger tome to get Oath Shot after being tormented by the screwed up spawns of Prophecies bosses. PalkiaX50 16:29, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Vision of Despair offers Power Flux (a Nightfall skill), but the other elite skills should have incremented your title track.
Did you notice whether you scored the 5,000 xp bonus and/or whether you saw the unlocked skill notice (for those skills you haven't unlocked yet)? If you have time, it would be great if you could try another skill and capture screen shots of: your before/after title track, your before/after list of elite skills, the Signet of Capture window (showing the boss' available skills), and, the status message just after capturing (it should say something about getting 5 kXP).
Thanks for the update. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 16:48, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh, yes I got the notifications I should; unlocking the skill, gaining 5k xp and a skill point when appropriate. Also, I imagine it won't be of much more help but I just remembered I also capped from Carnak the Hungry. And yea, I know that mesmer boss gives an NF skill.PalkiaX50 16:52, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok, I capped another prophs elite and it's still acting up, I got screenies so where should I upload them? PalkiaX50 20:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Try this link: guild wars support forumsYae Mozs 20:26, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Good (well, good that you have screenies; bad that the game still isn't cooperating with you). You can post them here, using the format file = User PalkiaX50 [name].jpg. (You can add the links to this thread if you like, but I can find them using the upload log later on.) Hopefully, the screenshots will give us enough data to come up with a theory or two. — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 20:29, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
There, 3 images although perhaps you may want to reduce the size of them. PalkiaX50 21:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Very helpful. So, near as I can tell, your account is glitched. (Whether the game as a whole is affected...I don't know.) So...
  • Post a note (pointing to this thread and its screenshots) at the Forums (see Yae Mozs' note above) and
  • Contact support, pointing to both the forums and this thread.
You want to add evidence that there's an issue (at the forums), but the dev team almost certainly cannot unglitch your account (that's where Support comes in). It will probably take them some time to unravel it: you should hear back from them soon, but it might be Monday or later before they can fix your title track(s). In the meantime, it probably won't hurt to continue capping, but keep track manually. (And, to be on the safe side, leave at least one skill until after support gives you the all's well sign.)
Sorry I can't offer a fix that you can implement. (And please post us a note about what ultimately happens.) — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:33, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
On my acc, i have the same issue. However, once you reach the max skills it automatically resets itself. If you read my link...(which someone sent the support a bug notice on the same issue) , one of the devs said that the ele skills where accidentally counted as core skills. This was updated in an update to fix the count, but the title track is still but nevertheless. Yae Mozs 23:29, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Yea, "Simone" on the forum is me. PalkiaX50 02:01, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Real Cost[edit]

Bearing in mind the cost seems to put some people off going for this title would it be worth noting that collecting drops can off-set a lot of the cost? I've been focusing exclusively on skill capping (not vanqing or doing quests at the same time, I just go in, get the skill and leave), exclusively in NM but skipping between campains and areas a lot because I'm working my way down the skill lists and I've been averaging 1k from drops (including runes and materials) for every 5 elites captured, which effectively means every 5th elite is free. Doesn't seem like a great deal but over time it adds up. I haven't put it into the article myself because I'm not sure how to word it, and because I'm worried that it's basically saying "collecting drops gets you money" which is painfully obvious. But the fact that drops from a run to cap a skill = money off that skill is a connection some people might not have made. 109.151.89.145 23:16, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Also, the costs of changing professions (unless doing the Proph quests to do that) should be added to the cost, you can't have this title unless you own the appropriate professions. Jeree95 10:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I think it's misleading to put a note on the article about this, even though it's true that many people will offset the title's costs by selling drops:
  • Some people cap while VQing or going after Carto, so there's not any extra income from capping.
  • Not everyone picks up drops (I know a lot of people that feel it's a waste of time to pick up anything other than a gold, even to the point of ignoring gold pieces).
  • Any value of the drops is heavily dependent on how many heroes, the level of the local foes, etc.
The cost of learning 8 more professions adds 4Platinum to acquisition, relatively minor compared to 290Platinum from buying the signets, but I suppose that's as noteworthy as the other bullet items. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 21:40, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Canthan Elite Skill Hunter title bugged[edit]

Ok, so, after I vanquished Cantha, I went around, capping all the elite skills. After doing it, I noticed I was sitting at 119/120 elite skills capped, and I capped the 30 core skills. And was wondering if there ws a fix for this. I was told that if I capped one elire in Tyria, it would count towards the Canthan. Has anyone been able to confirm this?

I've not heard of anything like this, but then again I haven't been skill-hunting in years (plus they removed the forum so i can't check for similar recent reports). The obvious suggestion would be to check again >.< -Chieftain Alex 22:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thats the thing, I double, triple checked all the elites I have not capped. I had use an Elite Rit Tome to acquire the Signet of Spirits skill, and don't think it added itself to the title track.