Talk:Attacker's Insight

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Could use a buff that gives you energy based on the cost of the attack and the remaining energy covered.--72.64.46.60 18:54, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Love the August 9th Update Buff to this. Now you can spam Chilling Victory or Wearying Strike like it's going out of style. Gothica 11:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, Im glad Izzy looks at the underpowered skills section, this was the exact suggestion from Symbol.--Atlas Oranos 21:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

You claim to buff the worthless skills, and leave Incoming and AoG alone. Why don't you just change their damn functuality, so that they are actually used, instead of buffing dumb gay skills such as these. Readem (talk*gwwcontribs) 23:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

These are easier to buff... if you increase incoming to 5 seconds then there will be a 5 paragon team who spams incoming none stop76.26.189.65 12:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Then give it a cast time or something so it's interupterable.Barkingllama 02:46, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ya just wondering, anyone actually know of an attack skill that uses 20 energy? Not complaining or anything just seems odd.Falcon Assassin 03:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

concussion shot, 25 eng :) 78.20.153.111 13:19, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Also it is handy if you are under effect of energy boosting skills, like Quickening Zephyr or Expert's Dexterity. - Elder Angelus 17:21, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Applied before or after expertise?

Contents 1 Removal effect? 2 Skill Bug 3 With Bow Attacks? 4 GoLE 5 Heroes

[edit] Removal effect?

Say, you used Pious Assault on the last charge, does this skill get removed by pious, or does the enchantment end before pious removes an enchantment? -- Halogod35 21:11, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It says on the page "With Pious Assault, the energy reduction is before the enchantment is removed." Mediggo 21:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't care about the energy, I wanna know about the enchantment ending. -- Halogod35 21:25, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Why? Pious Assault does not have any conditional effects. It'll cause deep wound and +damage whether or not you lose the enchantment. And Attacker's Insight ends in any case. Mediggo 21:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

For Mystic Sweep. lol, I wanna know if I'm not getting the damage bonus when I use on the last charge. -- Halogod35 21:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Okayy. Well, I think it works same as Pious Assault. So you will gain your damage bonus and energy reduction... but you know, it's really better to just test it and see it yourself. :P Mediggo 21:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

lol fine be that way xD -- Halogod35 21:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Just tested it by having two enchantments, when I used pious on the last charge two enchantments disappeared. Therefore this skill ends before the scythe can take advantage. Same goes for wounding strike. If you use WS on the last charge, it won't apply deep wound. ._. -- Halogod35 21:37, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I just tested same myself too, seems like it's that way... Insight still reduces the energy cost, but it won't cause any "if you lose enchantment this way" conditional effects to occur. Mediggo 21:45, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Or if you had an enchantment effect too. Someone needs to note this. -- Halogod35 21:56, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Attacker's Insight triggers on activation, any conditionals trigger on hit. I think I mentioned this on the discussion page for RtL (don't ask why it's there), not sure if you saw that. Raine - talk 23:58, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Skill Bug

Ok so here is what i have im stacking 3 enchantments Onslaught is on the bottom next is Attacckers insight and on top put aura of thorns. My Spike goes Twin Moon (removing Aura of Thorns) -> Chilling Victory -> Pious Assault. Now Pious should just remove Attackers Insight leaving Onslaught intact however it removes both attackers insight and Onslaught (2 enchantments!?). I am running 12 Wind Prayers so Attackers has 3 charges. --Tyris 23:53, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Attacker's Insight is removed when the attack is activated, but Pious Assault doesn't remove an enchantment until after the attack is activated. In real-time, there's no difference -- both events occur concurrently. But from a programming and skill perspective, they're two different events. If your AI had 4 charges instead of 3, it would work like you want it to. --Jette 23:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

hey ppl i just tested this skill and it wastes a charge on adrenal skills to is this a bug?

No. The skill says nothing about not counting some group of attack skills. Backsword 21:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. Since it doesn't specify a type of attack skill, it also uses a charge for adrenaline attack skills. DevilJinKazama 09:27, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] With Bow Attacks?

Works well with Concussion Shot too? With Expertise, it makes this a long lasting Dazed applied for 0 cost?

[edit] GoLE

Related 72.222.217.198 00:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Heroes

I put this on a couple of my heroes recently and it looks like it's one of those skills they just won't use on their own. Has anyone else observed this? --Alessar 18:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)