Talk:Avatar of Balthazar

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Is it just me or does this skill's picture look like King Leonidas from the movie 300?

This was around before 300, not everything is a reference in this game. -- Luigi (T/C) 09:28, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Nevertheless, it does look like him :P. You're totally right, of course; this was before the movie. -- Mafaraxas 17:31, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

To be fair, the graphic novel 300 was out before GW, maybe one of the artists is a fan? --Valentein 20:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, compare this [1] to the skill icon. The movie Leonidas certainly looks like it, but the comic version... eh, not so much in my opinion. -- Mafaraxas 21:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I think there is a bug with this form (haven't checked all the others), but when it ends and you are autorunning (R), it cancels the movement, but resumes it if you move your view camera (or movement direction if you were running) with right click held and mouse movement.Krothal 18:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

That's the same situation with all Forms: "All actions (including skill activations, attacks, and movement) will be canceled when this form ends." The reason the dual mouse click doesn't affect it is because it applies repeated commands to run forward some short distance (as far as I can tell and infer) which translates to always running forward with the camera directly behind you. -- Mafaraxas 03:44, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure if it's the same thing or not... I am not talking about mouse movement, just auto-running forward using the R key. When the form ends, your character stops. It can stay there as long as you don't swing your camera view around. If you hold the right mouse button and move the mouse, the character resumes it's auto-running.Krothal 16:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see. Not sure about that, I'll have to test that later. -- Mafaraxas 00:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, 300 Spartans was made long ago sir. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:61.69.196.118 (talk).

I do believe it IS a reference to the 300 novel made before the game, just after the novel was released, people did concept art of the Spartans and King Leonidas was drawn almost the same as the man in the movie, it's possible Anet found this picture and used it. It makes sense though aswell, because the Avatar of Balthazar is like a King, what with the increased armor, speed and deals holy damage. ~Tengu

Can you stack any other armor buff with this? I know you cant receive more than +25 armor except from single spells. but I was wondering, because it is a "form" 202.124.127.38 22:13, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I would assume no; whenever something says +AL the +25 restriction for multiple sources comes into play. It would stack with non-armor-boosting sources for damage reduction (e.g. Mantra of Flame), though.-- Mafaraxas 03:50, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Conjure and this...

Okay, so. I have lightning weapon, with conjure lightning.. Then I use this form. How's the damage calculated? Halogod35 04:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Your attacks now deal holy damage, and you get no benefit from Conjure Lightning, unfortunately. I haven't tested to confirm, but possibly if you changed into the Avatar and then switched to the lightning weapon it might work? Elder Angelus 20:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

it could possibly work if he applies conjure lightning after using the form. The last applied skills have "priority" in general. —ZerphaThe Improver 15:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I think skills changing damage type will take priority over the weapon's damage type, so Conjure Lightning won't do bonus damage. It doesn't matter when you activate the Conjure; it says "wielding a lightning weapon", but it means "wielding a weapon that does lightning damage". With the Avatar up, it'll be modified to Holy damage.

However, I don't know what happens if you activate a different skill that changes your damage type... Avatar of Balthazar, followed by Grenth's Fingers, with Conjure Frost active? Depending on how they stack, that might work if you really want to use a Conjure while in Balthazar form. -- Jïörüjï Ðērākō.>.cнаt^ 20:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)