Talk:Sadie Salvitas

Trivia

I may be wrong but isn't Salmon-Colored a possible nod to Red vs Blue (season 1 era?) With Donut? Not entirely sure and not sure how to edit Trivia heading --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 141.209.230.91 (talk).

No it's a friends reference because Ross has a pink shirt but he thinks pink is too femenine and calls it salmon colored --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.11.89.133 (talk).

It most likely isn't a RvB reference, because Donut calls his armor "light red" not salmon. Eive 19:13, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Seems like a Friends reference, in the episode where Ross (Rosa) calls his sweater salmon colored instead of pink. 88.159.234.111 19:48, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I see here your coming from, but its a far stretch when Rosa actually does mean pink in spanish etc. Jusy a coincedance if you ask me --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.0.7.112 (talk) at 01:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC).

Poster above me - They are referring to her DIALOGUE. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.91.1.88 (talk) at 11:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC).

Quick note, i don't understand that piece of trivia. Salmon is a popular colour and if you look at clothes alot of retailers will class a type of pink as salmon. --Smithy-Star 00:07, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I think that this is just a coincedance and that this is not a reference to friends in fact there are a lot of other series in wich people rather say salmon than pink Longway 08:39, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Minipet?

^ saw it at GToB :o

A Candysmith Marley. Manifold 18:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Name/Translation

I'm not at all fluent in Spanish, but I know "Rosa" is "Pink." I would think "Salvitas" is the feminine diminutive of something like "salvas." According to an online translator, "salva" is "save" but I'm not sure if it's grammatically correct. Could anyone with more knowledge clarify? Could the name also be translated differently in other languages? Might be worthwhile to put under Notes.

MVLM 19:43, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Looks like Medieval Latin to me. "Salvitas" is safe, and "rosa" is rose. -- bcstingg (talk • contribs) 20:09, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Rosa can also be more loosely translated as the color Pink. 69.249.223.63 20:10, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd say it translates into something like "Pink Saves". Which sounds more logical considering the context than "Pink, who is healthy"... I vote for a change in the Trivia, as most people here agree that Salvitas has somethng to do with the word "safe" or "saves" and not with "healthy". Sjeng 16:00, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you. I'm going to update it. I'm also going to remove the note about it not being correct Latin; salvitas does mean safety (see here), though it is a noun, not a verb, so the name is closer to "Pink safety". But I think they were going for "Pink saves", and the correct Rosa Servat isn't a very nice-sounding name anyway. -- bcstingg (talk • contribs) 16:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Here i was thinking the name translates as pink salvation.Damysticreaper

Floating

Is it me, or is she floating somewhat? BorisDePig 19:35, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Untradable pink

Should it be noted somewhere that the pink vials of dye that she sells are untradable? I had more than one alliance mate buying several 100s of it to trade later and finding that out later... Winterbay 20:47, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

I think is easierand faster to read an item description ingame to find that an item is not tradeable than going on wiki--Sharkinu 20:50, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

We should provide information, not telling people to RTFM (which defeats the purpose of this wiki anyway.) Koda Kumi 10:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Buying just to trade the thing later for a profit seems to me to kind of defeat the reason for having the trader in game. This is supposed to support Breast Cancer Awareness month, not be a vehicle for more farmers looking to make a buck. I'm glad Anet already thought that one out.

Untradeable to some degree. Weapons, for example, can be dyed and sold. Markus Clouser 02:15, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

And you can still toss em around your account (KILL MementoMori 11:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC))

I prefer not to be told what to do with the dye that I bought. Thank you. And i think my customers are happy they were able to save ~4.5k on dye. 124.99.28.2 16:50, 15 November 2010 (UTC)Ryoko

"I prefer not to be told what to do with the dye that I bought. Thank you..." <-- Couldn't have said it better. Power WM 21:59, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I might have said "I prefer to not be told..." but that's just me. --71.236.62.138 18:24, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"Note that Salvitas is not correct Latin here"

It is, however, correct Medieval Latin, from the Latin salvus, meaning safe. I don't know if that's worth noting or not. -- bcstingg (talk • contribs) 21:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

It's grammatically incorrect. If I remember Latin correctly, salvitas is 1st declension accusative plural, while Rosa is nominative singular. — Ebany 19:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Salvitas is actually the nominative form of the word. I believe it would be in the third declension, like veritas. So Rosa Salvitas does actually have both words in the nominative singular. It's still not correct Classical Latin, being that it includes the M.L. word salvitas. -- bcstingg (talk • contribs) 20:53, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Why are we so certain that rosa is nominative? Vocative, dative, and ablative also work (and give better translations, depending on what you interpret salvitas as).

Is she a dye trader

Should she really be classed as a dye trader when her mechanics are technically that or a regular merchant. She just happens to sell one item and you do have the ability to sell regular items. She's also refered to as a vendor, you don't have to request a quote from her etc like other traders. --Smithy-Star 10:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

i sold my Indent kit to her for more pink dye, so yh.--Neil2250 11:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

She trades dye for money. 84.87.168.39 14:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Nice that someone changed it ;) I also put that she is labelled as the pink dye vendor, similar to how the henchman work. --Smithy-Star 21:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

npc model

maybe a small note to say that it uses the Candysmith Marley model too? -- Pixy | Talk 21:08, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I think this is all we need to mention that.--Neil2250 21:25, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

She's an imposter :/ She doesn't give candy. --Life Infusion «T» 22:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Name

The dyes that she sells are called "Vial of Rosa's Dye [Pink]" not "Rosa's Dye [Pink]". Just a minor change... Flexi 12:19, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Done. --Silver Edge 09:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Back

Does anyone know when did she come back? I didn't know that she was already in Lion's Arch. Linu 07:27, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Duh, she's there since October 1st, and 'till 31st.The Lolslayer 06:15, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Unclear

It's not particularly clear from the text - does Rosa's dye work like normal pink dye? Cynique 13:33, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does. The game even states items dyed with one type as "identical dyed" if you use the other type on it, so they are functional completely the same. – 13:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Cannabis cures cancer

Just so you are more 'aware' Cannabis cures cancer, don't believe me, great, try to prove me wrong. Search Rick Simpson. --71.37.189.148 08:46, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Nice snake oil salesman of a man you have there, providing nothing more than anecdotal evidence through testimonials. "After the horrible earthquake in Japan...radiation is now spreading worldwide...With all the radiation that is now entering our atmosphere , it is basically urgent, that we now all start ingesting this oil as soon as possible to undo the damage this radiation will cause" The amount of radiation that entered the atmosphere was negligible and as such had essentially no effect on anyone through its distribution in the atmosphere (it affected local fish stock through the water, albeit extremely temporarily, but certainly had no effects on international residents). "Hemp oil does not cause your body to crave more. It is non-addictive, harmless and effective for practically any medical condition" Wow, a miracle cure-all, who'd have thought. Punching yourself repeatedly cures cancer, don't believe me? Great, try to prove me wrong.122.106.149.178 10:11, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I know right? Like there is even a fraction of the amount of testing and observation done that we would need to declare cannabis a cure for anything. I think the claim that cannabis can cure cancer is horribly asinine and ignorant of basic science; inhaling smoke is highly carcinogenic, it doesn't matter if that's smoke from burning gasoline or from burning cannabis. If you can cure cancer through a carcinogenic practice I would be very surprised. 96.44.114.222 21:22, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

As I understand it (i.e. probably not very well), the belief that cannabis cures cancer has its origins in the use of THC (the active ingredient in cannabis) to help manage the side-effects (nausea, etc.) of some/all chemotherapy drugs. So it has uses in cancer treatment, but it is by no means whatsoever a cure. Cynique 03:26, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

The only thing cannabis is used for in the medical world is indeed only as a natural painkiller. I gues there are people who see cannabis being used during treatments and then think it's a miracle cure to the disease those people suffer. It would be nice if there was an effective cure to cancer but there still is none. Right now chemotherapy is nothing more than a treatment to counter and kill cancer cells and with luck one can hope that those cells do not regenerate and that the tumor returns. If you have a method to kill all of the cancerous cells without giving them the ability to regenerate wich chemotherapy does not, if you meet those conditions then you can rightfully claim you have a cure for cancer. But please don't make such stupid half-assed claims that such a thing as cannabis cures cancer, since you basicly are mocking the disease wich people who have bad experiences with cancer (wich includes me) can see it as an insult knowing how horrible the disease actually is. Da Mystic Reaper 11:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually, it is used to stimulate appetite in cancer patients receiving chemotherapy. I was prescribed Marinol (tetrahydocannabinol) while going through a particularly nasty bout of weight loss due to the dual cause of the loss of appetite from the chemo and a case of canker sores that ran down my esophagus due to the low white blood count. It worked, giving me "the munchies," and helping me to get eating again. For the record, it was legally prescribed to me, and I only took it for half the time allotted to me since my appetite was back and good enough without the prescription. I hated how it affected me, and had to later apologize to some people for my behavior.PJ 02:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

So who appears on Prostate Cancer Awareness Month?

Oh, wait; there is no "Prostate Cancer Awareness Month"; even though Prostate Cancer kills more people, is harder to treat and has a much more agonizing death. But no, ArenaNet supports a sexist stance and helps Breast Cancer charities continue outfunding Prostate Cancer Research 8:1. So tell us, ArenaNet; why the misandry? Why support Breast Cancer but not the male cancers?

Emancipation discrimination is most likely the reason, since it would not be the first time either. Da Mystic Reaper 13:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Prostates aren't sexy. Besides, what color dye would they invent for that? 76.78.119.15 13:52, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

You do know that breast cancer isn't just a female disease, right? Also, why don't you create an event for prostate cancer? O.o Nothing is stopping you lol §Azhure Sun Soar 06:13, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Gold (since we have a silver dye but no gold dye). Da Mystic Reaper 14:15, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

"Prostates aren't sexy."<There's your answer.

Who says it has to be a dye? Why couldn't it be some other item? An elixer that turns you into a random male NPC, perhaps? Darkeforce 05:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

"Besides, what color dye would they invent for that?" What about turquoise, similar to the blue colour for baby boys. "There's your answer" Because it doesn't affect women is the real answer. Damn societal double standards. 122.106.149.178 06:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can create the "Prostate Cancer Awareness Month" and I hope that ANet, after 4 years, releases the dye you want. Remember, pink day has been existed for years[1] and if you were so worried about prostate cancer you could have inspired another event years ago, too. I think ANet is going to start ignoring us because there's moaning even with supporting events. We'll get what we deserve... Linu 07:45, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually that's a highly flawed argument. His complaint was about Anet specifically sponsoring breast cancer awareness and not prostate cancer awareness. That has nothing to do with his individual ability to sponsor prostate cancer awareness. I'm neutral on the subject, but I acknowledge the validity of his point. 96.44.114.222 21:25, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

As it's been said, ANet is supporting a highly succesful community event that has been in the game for years. If a prostate cancer event were had been done since then, I'm sure they would have support it too, and yet there would be complaints. Linu 12:02, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Did you guys know that breast cancer affects men, and women also have a prostate? Ah, well... it's hard to change people's beliefs. You could just read this article about the breast cancer industry instead. 76.78.119.15 19:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Way to put a downer on something that originally had good intentions. There's always one who complains... --Xu Davella 22:39, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Skene's Gland is not a prostate. I produces PAH, but it doesn't produce seminal fluid, which are the cells that are prone to prostate cancer. It is impossible for a woman to get prostate cancer. And how does the fact that in very rare circumstances, men can get breast cancer suggest there should not be just as much funding for Prostate Cancer Research? It would be very easy for ANet to create its own Prostate Cancer Awareness Month, and offer something like Robin's Egg Blue dye, just as they are offering pink dye now. It would dispute their current appearance that they're misandrist. Darkeforce 05:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC) (UTC)

Prostate Cancer Awareness Week (September 18-24) it exists. Also, it would be very easy to turn this into a "why aren't they supporting this male-only disease" or "why aren't they supporting this elderly-only disease" or "why aren't they supporting this childhood only disease" or "why aren't they supporting this disease that only my great-aunt Martha has". Why can't it be "Wow, how cool is it that they're supporting an event the PLAYERS have come up with to raise money for a good cause"? Again, why don't you create a player-made event to raise awareness and encourage ANet to put in some dye, or whatever else you think would represent it best. Maybe they should just have an NPC with a general illness-awareness rainbow glitter dye so as not to offend anyone who is left out. >.> §Azhure Sun Soar 06:13, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

If you want to argue with a false equivalency, I suppose you could, but you would have to be really grasping at straws to suggest that wanting a balance of gender-oriented event justifies introducing a whole new argument without addressing the first issue first. ANet came up with the event on their own, based solely on the existence of Breast Cancer Awareness month. To not do the same with Prostate Cancer Week is sexist, and needs to be addressed if they don't want to be accused of bias. Darkeforce 07:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

They aren't supporting breast cancer research per se. They are supporting a large player event, as they do with a few others of its kind. If people start a large successful prostate cancer research event, I'm sure they'd do something for it, too. Manifold 06:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, we already heard that argument, and it's still just as invalid. The event is company-created, not player-created. People have created an event; Prostate Cancer Awareness Week; why is it not recognized in Guild Wars, but Breast Cancer Month is? That's sexism, and just plain unfair. Breast Cancer Research has a surplus of funding at this point; Prostate Cancer Research has a huge dearth of funding. If ANet is going to support one and not the other, then it should be Prostate Cancer Awareness — it needs the press and awareness boost. I'm seeing pink everywhere I turn; it's not going to suffer from one less fundraiser. Darkeforce 07:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

"ANet came up with the event on their own, based solely on the existence of Breast Cancer Awareness month." "The event is company-created, not player-created." No, the event isn't created or run by ArenaNet. See Pink Day in LA#What Is Pink Day in LA?. --99.232.78.45 09:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Colour

Is the colour of this any different to the normal pink dye? Flexi 09:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

It's exactly the same color. In fact, it's the same vial of dye, it only changes the name. Linu 12:02, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Sadie

For those interested...Sadie Massa Kiss was a guildee who was a wonderful person and a lot of fun. She participated in a lot of events, including Pink Day in LA, and was in our ally. She will be missed. We all would like to thank Anet for honoring her by changing the name of the Pink Dye NPC to Sadie. Thank you! **Thugem Chi/Take That Punk --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.65.63.164 (talk).

I'm sure all that is true, and at the risk of playing the jerk here, I think Anet simply renaming an established character as tribute seems like lazy pandering. If they could not be bothered to create a new in-game character in her memory they should have just left Rosa alone. This is "Goodbye England's Rose" all over again; it cheapens the memory as well as the cause by being what is essentially recycled content being adapted to suit the current topic, and they don't even provide a lore explanation for why Rosa suddenly disappeared (unless we are being morbid and assuming she died of breast cancer as well). We were all quite puzzled by this change and had no idea why it was being done until someone posted that article. I hope Anet carefully considers issues like this next time they decide to do something like this. 65.87.26.122 22:42, 1 July 2013 (UTC)