User talk:Emily Diehl/Wiki discussion archive 8

A little help for me, and a little notice to you ^-^

Hi there,

I've been wondering if you could help me with a problem that's been pestering me for a few days : I uploaded updated faces pictures for my characters on my user page, but for some reason, the old ones keep on popping up. (That is until I refresh the page like 10 times). Is there any way I can address this issue? Should I simply ask to mark the older ones for deletion (could be a nuisance if I always need to bother someone to delete them each time I upload an update...).

And as a side note, the link sending us to Madame's profile is "http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User:Emily_DiehlMadame", instead of "http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User:Emily_Diehl/Madame" (Missing /). ^-^ (I admit, I only saw it cause I'm always checking your page to see if there's a good idea to make my page look better... I'm a thief that way xD).

Meredy Redleaf 15:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the link on Madame. Meredy, try purging your browser cache (Ctrl+F5) and see if that fixes them. Otherwise, post the links to the images that are still a problem. Part of the problem is you are uploading new versions too quickly, it often takes over an hour for the image cache to clear and reuploading them every 2 minutes just makes the problem worse. -- Wyn 15:27, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, however, the change was made Friday, and the problem is happening now (on Monday).
I tried purging the server cache, my own Internet temp files folder; I even tried to switch to an other Pc (both home and at work).
The problem is still there. Meredy Redleaf 15:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I am seeing the new ones in all instances, so that tells me it's not a wiki image cache problem. -- Wyn 15:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Hiya Meredy! Thanks for the report (and nice job on your user page :)). I hit your character page, and the images do appear to be updated for me. Are you still having the same problem? I think that Wyn is right about the local caching, because the same thing was happening to me with my bullets. I actually even deleted my old ones from the wiki, and still saw them occasionally several days later. I'm starting to wonder if there's a per-user caching setting somewhere in MediaWiki that we're overlooking, since this happens so frequently. I will chat with the team about it and see what they think. Anyways, thanks again for the report! -- Emily Diehl (talk) 16:41, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Featured pages, again

Hey Emily, we now would be ready to start showing off our first featured pages. You initially said you wanted to highlight those articles somehow also on the website, is that system ready so we could publish it synchronized? Or should we start first? poke | talk 10:38, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Heya Poke! You guys go first...we've had some additional things come up that have put a delay on our original plans, so we'll follow you at a later time. The new front page is AWESOME by the way...everyone did an amazing job on that. It looks pro :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 18:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad you like it :) poke | talk 18:28, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

About Me Boxes & Others

On your User Page you have your About Me box, Bullet, and Characters Box as a template. I was just wondering how you do that. Is it another page you make? Or is it an actual template, and if it is a template how do you make it? Than 03:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

The "about me" box is transcluded from User:Emily Diehl/Fun box, and the bullets are transcluded from User:Emily Diehl/Bullet. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 04:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

So it's just going to another wiki page under Miss Diehl's page? So you could make one on your page via going to this: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Gordon_Ecker/About_Me_Box.php am I right? Than 01:25, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Basically, but without the .php part. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 03:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thank you so much. Than 03:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thief

Hey, is it all right if i steal your homepage template? File:User JonathanMartin Sig.jpgJonathan 03:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Sure! Go for it :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 21:22, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Thx File:User JonathanMartin Sig.jpgJonathan 21:32, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Um... ****

I was trying to get some Userboxes, and I was getting some off of your page and I saved your Userbox page instead of mine... /facepalm Than 05:05, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. No harm no foul :D You might want to check out User:Seru/User box templates if you are looking for userboxes. -- Wyn 05:14, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

New Copyright Wording

Hey Emily, I just wanted to follow-up on this. Any update on the new wording? I left a message on Mike's page as well, but I just wanted to make sure you saw it. Any update would be hugely appreciated. (Satanael 18:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC))

Hiya Satanael! Unfortunately, I don't have anything yet. As Mike mentioned on his page, we're just coming down from a major review milestone, so our focus has been on that for some time. Since that's past (and the holiday weekend is over), I will track this down and see where we're at with it right now. -- Emily Diehl (talk) 18:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

That's perfect, thanks Emily! (Satanael 18:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC))

Heya again Satanael! I just wanted to post here too to let you know that I've answered the timing question on Mike's page. From what I've been told, it looks like the new terms will be ready in about a week. After that, we'll post them, give it a few days, and then push the changes live. So, (unless something unexpected pops up), this should all be ready to rock in the next few weeks! -- Emily Diehl (talk) 22:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thanks Emily, you're a Star! (Get it? Because your signature has a star, and because you do good work. That's like a pun type thing. *sigh* I need better writers...) (Satanael 03:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC))

Can I steal????

Hi, I was wondering if I could use the layout of your page as my own please? Peter Higgins 15:17, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

On a minor side note, Emily, shouldn't your talk page and user page share the same color scheme? — Jon Lupen 20:42, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Ya, go for it, Peter! And yeah, my talk page templates need to be updated soon. I just ran out of time and forgot to finish them. Maybe I'll do that tonight :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 22:14, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You should transform your sig to green as well, so that everything matches! ;D --Shadowphoenix 22:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

ArbComm

Hi Emily. There's currently an open ArbComm regarding User:Shard regarding his disruption in particular of Gaile's talk pages. One of the proposed rulings involve him no longer being allowed to post on Anet employees' talk pages. He has asked, if that ruling does go into effect, if he can ask you and Linsey for exemptions so that he can post on your talk pages. I'd appreciate if you could comment on Guild Wars Wiki talk:Arbitration committee/2009-06-21-User:Shard whether that's something you'd want to give your permission for. You can also review the particulars of the situation on that page and its associated non-talk page. Thanks. - Tanetris 04:44, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Heya Tanetris! I don't have any issues with Shard. He's always been respectful on my page, so I personally don't mind if he posts here. The final decision on all of this resides with you admins, though, so handle the situation how you see fit. I prefer to remain completely neutral with ArbComm cases (and anything that should be handled by the governing admin body), so I'll keep this response here and not put it on that page.

My personal stance on this overall topic (in case it ever comes up again) is that everyone is welcome to post on my talk as long as they're respectful. I respect and appreciate all of you, so I expect that you'll return the favor enough to not give me extra headaches by being dorks on my talk space. As you can tell, I'm not a huge fan of having to archive bunches of stuff. ;) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 06:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks much for the response! - Tanetris 00:26, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

FeedBack involvement

First of all my apologies for bringing this up here but I do not know of a better place to ask this...
Could you offer any means of assurance that the new Namespace (for Feedback) will maintain enough Developer involvement to always move forward? Before answering, I'd also need to point out that your job; with respect, is content & marketing which means it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between a 99% confident answer, and a "biz" answer. I ask because I see growing concern about the Dev Talk pages being moved there too and certain individuals' intentions with respect to "enforcement" there. What concerns me is the appearance that you're stepping away from shaping that policy (and possibly all of Anet stepping away from shaping that policy) just as the new namespace is being set up. Do you worry this could be a mistake?

• Has there been considerations about what will happen if staff presence remains secluded to their own talk pages?, and if no "we read this"-style indicators are given in the Userspace sections where we can assume ALL feedback is supposed to reside??(per current negotiations) I don't wish to impose any opinion about how the staff should conduct themselves, but I do feel the need to point the following out: If a "Carrot & Stick" approach isn't utilized, and that staff presence is only felt on their own Talk Pages rather than the proper Feedback userspaces, then we really will face the scenarios predicted by those certain individuals who are clamoring for TOUGH enforcement. So can you offer us some assurance that 'Dev' presence will be routinely felt where the 'Carrot' belongs, and less felt where the 'Stick' should be used? --ilr 04:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe anyone, least of all Emily can guarantee developer involvement in the Feedback namespace. I can tell you I have had in depth conversations with Regina, Linsey and Gaile regarding these issues and they have all assured me of the spirit of cooperation among the staff regarding some of the questions that have been raised regarding this. I don't believe you are going to see, or should expect a HUGE increase in developer participation on the wiki, since the wiki will remain something they do on their own time outside of work. As always, it will be up to the wiki community to 'police' the feedback pages, as well as the staff pages, but they are all looking at new posting rules for their pages, that will strongly recommend that users post their issues in the most appropriate places (Skill feedback/Suggestions/Bug reports etc.) and as has been mentioned in our discussion on the restructuring page, users who abuse staff pages with these items will face warnings and bans. Also, Emily (and all other Anet staff) has no more say in shaping policy here than any other user in this community. -- Wyn talk 05:20, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Glad you're showing interest in this. ...now would you believe me if I said the answer I'm actually looking for is a "I dunno" at best, and a "probably not" at worst? My real interest here is actually in a possible automated process, since I know your comrades on the Taskforce are such big fans of Automation... --ilr 05:45, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Heya ilr! I can't make concrete promises for anyone else, but I can assure you that when the space is set up properly, I will personally make SURE that everyone in the company knows that it exists and knows exactly how to access the space to check things out. I know for a fact that some people will definitely look at feedback on the pages. I've had people asking me when it will be done for quite some time, so there's interest :)

I don't think it's reasonable or fair to expect any developer to feel obligated to flag anything they've read. Team members should be able to use the space as they see fit, and the community should understand that not commenting doesn't necessarily equal not reading. Most of the wiki work is done on people's free time (case in point, it's 11:25 PM and I'm at my desk responding to this =p). If a dev member chooses to respond to something, that should be their choice.

I also don't think the talk page versus feedback page thing will be a huge issue. There are a lot of people in the company that are interested in reading feedback, but don't necessarily have the time to maintain a talk presence on the wiki. While some people (like Lins) may end up responding to suggestions posted across a mix of pages, it's reasonable to assume that this won't be the case for most people. I suppose that this may fall under your concern that responses may fall closer to the "stick" (user talk) than the "carrot" (feedback talk), but I can't really predict whether there will be more responses to feedback on talk pages or on feedback talk pages. I think we'll probably just have to set things up and see how it goes. I'm sure that adjustments to rules and guidelines will need to be made, but that's to be expected with anything new :)

Hope this answers things a little bit. If I misunderstood, let me know. My brain's fuzzy right now =P -- Emily Diehl (talk) 06:36, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm personally glad there's interest. I look forward to this all being set up ^_^ ~~000.00.00.00~~ 06:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

"Hope this answers things a little bit." ...And then some! This was more than ample, Thanks (hopefully it convinces everyone else, you had me at hello) --ilr 10:03, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

And just to clarify, dev talkpages are going to be moved into the feedback space automatically when we go live with it, so any feedback on those pages will be usable by ANet just like the feedback left on the other spaces in the feedback namespace. (Satanael 14:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC))

I assume you mean any Feedback which is not a Suggestion, since any suggestions added before the switch were not submitted under new licensing... If Wyn gets too busy, she really should let one of us know so we can tag&bag any last-minute midnight additions that make it onto those pages before the switch deadline (once it's announced) --ilr 23:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

As I have said on the restructuring page, no content is going to be moved into the new space. It will be moved to a temp archive so that the staff can finish answering it, then it will be archived into Userspace. All new content will go directly into the feedback namespace, and eventually be archived there as well. -- Wyn talk 00:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, an I was referring above to post-switch feedback, so it would include all feedback, including suggestions. (Satanael 01:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC))

Okay, I didn't think he worded it quite right either... --ilr 01:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh. My. God.

She just gave herself God powers! Run! Run for your lives! >:D — Jon Lupen 21:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

But... doesn't the fact that she gave God-mode to herself means that she was already in God-mode to begin with? XD.--Fighterdoken 21:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I know, that's the scarey part. Now she is just flexing her muscles, and bringing out all the stops. Now is the time to be afraid because the guns are loaded and aimed. >:D — Jon Lupen 21:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Haha :) Don't worry guys! I'm going to demote myself back into Liaison status after I'm done testing stuff. No need to run for your lives XD -- Emily Diehl (talk) 22:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever tried running from God? It's very hard, being everywhere at once and all. There is no way to escape your wrath, especially if you can give yourself God powers. whenever you want. — Jon Lupen 22:12, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

There's a simple weapon; logic. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 22:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

We should call it game now so we aren't spamming Emily's talk page anymore. — Jon Lupen 22:19, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) By the way, the new ANet logo is uglily plain and simple. Get the older one, nao! ò__ó Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

By the way, how is that "by the way..."? It's a totally different topic... (Satanael 23:50, 22 June 2009 (UTC))

This is the epic battle of wits. /shoo Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:58, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Bah, I'm a little late to the party. But when I first saw the promotion, I went running for a video camera. It felt like the first form of Orannis had appeared and an epic battle would ensue. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 01:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

<3 the Old Kingdom Trilogy reference Armond. ~ PheNaxKian 15:42, 25 June 2009 15:42, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Testing AlternativeUserTalk extension

If everything works fine you should get the notice :) poke | talk 19:16, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I did! Awesome work, Poke! Thanks! :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 19:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I hope this makes everyone happy :D -- Wyn talk 19:31, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Because Emily doesn't have the time to post it right now: Tomorrow's maintenance will include an upgrade to MediaWiki 1.15.1 on both GWW and GW2W. poke | talk 20:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.15.1 Upgrade

Hi guys! Tomorrow morning we'll be upgrading both the GWW and the GW2W to MediaWiki version 1.15.1. We'll also be installing the final pending RFTAs and making sure that all extensions are identical and up-to-date on both wikis. I'll be posting a notice on the website about this, but I wanted to give ya'll an advanced heads up anyways! Thanks :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 20:48, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Awesome :). Send Kudos to the IT team for me :D. --Dominator Matrix 06:17, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Will do! And you guys know the drill...if anything looks broken after the upgrade, just let me know so I can pass it along. :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 18:36, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Just curious... all the work and meeting you have all + playing on the wrong side of AION (you are asmodean right?) When do you sleep? If you don't sleep, how do you manage it? :P Anyways, you guys are awesome, keep it up! --198.16.10.9 19:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC) *edit* sorry, didn't notice I wasn't logged on --Nekki 19:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

GuildWiki

Someone has uploaded your user page to GuildWiki (User:LuckySle7n) - also incorporating images from your user page. Unless this is you (I have strong doubts that it is, especially with the user name) I'll delete the page, as GuildWiki uses a different copyright licence to the official wiki, but I just want to make sure that this isn't you before hand. Thanks for your time RT | Talk 19:39, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Nope, that's not me! Thanks for catching that, RT. -- Emily Diehl (talk) 19:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Alright, deleted - I'll notify the user that uploaded the images and text of this page RandomTime 19:48, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

nah just wanne to borrow the setup to remove your stuff out it later cause i'm not a star in wiki page creating dint know that i was against the rules i will setup a other theme my bad for the problems ^^.[LuckySle7en Talk] 22:43, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

missing extensions

Hi Emily, it seems a couple of extensions have been uninstalled/gone missing. GWW needs the User Merge and Delete and AlternativeUserTalk extensions. It seems we might also need InputBox here as well; comparing the two wikis' version pages, it seems GW2W has it but GWW doesn't. However, it's not on the GWW:RFTA#Installed requests list, so I'm not sure if GWW had it before or if we (still?) want it.

GW2W just needs ListTransclusions. RenameUser could be uninstalled on GW2W since it didn't work properly (it's been uninstalled here purposely, I think). Thanks, sorry for all the requests :/. --pling  15:00, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

­:o i can has inkscape too? —Jette 15:14, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up about this Pling :) Everything should be fixed up now, so let me know if anything is still missing. -- Emily Diehl (talk) 19:45, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks Emily, looks fine :D -- pling 20:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to tell you this...

... and make you a sad panda, but that won't work the way you wanted :( When new section's are added, they are added at the very bottom of the page, so nobody will see your note. But I'll think about a possible solution for you :) poke | talk 06:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed :D poke | talk 06:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Poke, you rock. Thanks :) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 21:00, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Also just added the section edit links again – You're welcome :) poke | talk 21:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

GW2Wiki and moving images

Hi Emily, just a small reminder, as this is a small thing that is likely going to be forgotten on the huge sea of things you have to do: when you have time, could you ask someone to unlock the "move images" feature of GW2 to everyone (as it is in this wiki), as opposed to it being available only to sysops (as it's in the GW2W right now)? With all the cool pieces of GW2 art we have been given recently, being able to rename images there is important now. Thanks! Erasculio 23:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh shucks...I totally missed this request with a flood of other things. I will put in the request tonight. I'm so sorry for the oversight! I'll let ya know when it's set to go (although you guys will probably see it in place right away anyways because you're ninjas like that ;)) -- Emily Diehl (talk) 02:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Heya Erasculio! This should be complete. If you guys run into any issues, please let me know! -- Emily Diehl (talk) 00:43, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it seems like this isn't the case. Ack, sorry about that premature posting. Please hold *elevator music* -- Emily Diehl (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2010 (UTC)