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"Taking it to a talk page"[edit]

Just a note, usually when I say "take this to a talk page", it doesn't mean copy the conversation over there, but rather just continue it there. If you're going to move something, actually move it, duplicate text just results in 2 conversations where there was previously one, both of them continuing. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Furthermore, it's generally bad practice to move things from someone's user page without their consent, and the consent of the users involved in the discussion. Go to Aiiane's Talk page (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
I know, I was still in the process of moving, fixed now. Lord Belar 01:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Cookies[edit]

OMG ban me please! Dancing Gnome 19:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

OMG me too! Lord Belar 02:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

ZOMG U HAV A USERPAGE HERE(this is vorrax if u remember me)24.190.23.113 21:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, odd isn't it? Lord Belar 21:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

we got banned o.O grinch and armond just dont enjoy an EPIC page«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 02:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, well. I need to spend time on GW, I haven't been on in a while. And I need to get a life. Mine's for a month, your's is just for a week. I'll probably stop contributing to PvX. I'd follow readem's example and post a goodbye, but my comp isn't displaying the capchas. Lord Belar 02:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

well u cant post a gb and mines for 3 days idk y o.O«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 02:57, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

It was because of the +7,653,421 edit I made. :/ According to armond, it crashed the servers. I don't really believe him, but oh well. Lord Belar 03:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

it crashed my computer and i couldnt load pvx for a few hours «º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 03:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Really? Cool! Oh, uh, I mean, I didn't know that could happen. Or that I was gone for a few hours. Man, I feel really bad now. :/ Lord Belar 03:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

You single-handedly crashed the entire PvX server cluster. That means the servers that hosted the actual PvX site, the subsites that GCardinal and Hhhippo use, and the images server. It took forever to fix. I then had to go back to Misfate's talk page and remove over a million characters that were making that page uneditable. How difficult is it to understand that when you pull shit like this, shit happens? There's a reason why there are warnings for when pages approach 32 kb - and it's not to encourage you. This is why we insist on admin talk pages being kept neat and orderly, and why archiving is encouraged for everyone else.
By the way, this shit happened not once, but six times, four of which were directly caused by you. Rawrawr's "epic talk page" you can't be blamed for; however, you made not one, but two extremely large edits to Misfate's talk page, not to mention a number of smaller spam edits. Both of those had to be reverted, all four of them caused the servers to lag severely and, in the case of the 7.7m edits, crash. Armond 14:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

all four??? i thought there were just misfates and rawrawr's or were these from an earlier time o.O«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 19:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

No, I only made two. Lord Belar 22:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

You made two, and those two both had to be reverted. Both reversions also caused the servers to crash. 2 + 2 = 4. Armond 02:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Then they weren't directly caused by me. Also, I only made one the time the server crased, the other one was the day before. Lord Belar 03:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
If you hadn't made the edits, none of the four crashes would have happened. Do you blame us for reverting vandalism, or do you blame the vandal? And I never said they happened together. Armond 09:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Then why didn't you tell me after the first time? Lord Belar 00:19, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Foolishness and stupidity that manifested itself as an idea that you might realize it yourself. =\ Oh, clearing out all the spam from Misfate's talk wasn't fun either. That took like ten minutes and a page protection (which I had to have someone else do because firefox as lagging so badly). Armond 12:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Hai[edit]

U are hear too? — Teh Uber Pwnzer 00:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I be everywhere. Lord Belar 00:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

The build on your userpage is pretty suckage. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 11:45, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I know, I was going to fix it up, but never got around to it. Lord Belar 21:28, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

That string of characters[edit]

...What'll happen if I paste that into GW as a template code? >.> --71.229.204.25 08:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Your computer will blow up. See the above discussion. Lord Belar 21:19, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

It's a crap RtL/AR spike. Armond 00:17, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

pvx[edit]

i r banned from pvx again how much longer u got left(my userpage here is amazing scroll through the entire thing)--«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 22:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I noticed your userpage, lol. I have 10 days left, and why the hell did you ask them to ban you? Lord Belar 22:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

cuz im so bored i thought i would screw it up and i care more about it than THIS place so idk--«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 22:28, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

vandalism gogo[edit]

ahahaha thanks for the idea on that GAY website xD(those commie bastards dont know wats comin to em)--«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 23:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

OMFG THAT WEBSITES SCARY I GOT BANNED ON IT AND NOW WHENEVER I GO TO EDIT IT SHOWS SOME GUY GETTING BUTTFUCKED BY ANOTHER GUY WITH NO CENSORING WTF??!?!?!?!--«º¤¥Ω☼Vørråx☼Ω¥¤º» 23:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

lol, I knew they were gross, but not that gross. :P Lord Belar 00:00, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I couldn't crash it for some reason, it just said that i cant save pages thats over 20kbits or whatever, anyway they have welcome templates too, i got one lol :( --Cursed Angel talk 20:04, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

hmm rawr talkpage redone on that website? u guys intrested thatll crash it but wed need more ppl with their edit capVørråx 20:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

lets team crash it, need some more and all edit at the same time :D --Cursed Angel talk 21:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Ok, when? Lord Belar 21:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

uhhh lets get 10-20+ ppl first post all ppl on ur userpage and then well make time??? does that sound gud--Vørråx 22:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, go for it! Lord Belar 22:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
remind me not to check links from your userpage again, that page made my head hurt and my eyes bleed. -- Salome User salome sig.png 06:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
What, the failing economy? Better get used to it, it's here to stay. :( Lord Belar 15:48, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
The failing economy i can cope with, however ED makes my head hurt. It's just a really offensive site. Was trying to work out for 30 mins last nite if it was satire and parody but its not, its just a bunch of immature morons calling everyone fags, so yeh ill come on your vandalism vendetta against that site. ;) -- Salome User salome sig.png 15:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

ED spam signup[edit]

  1. Lord Belar 22:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  2. Cursed Angel talk 22:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
  3. Vørråx 22:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Stop this madness at once!(hopes to recive medal for bravery.)Umm, no, Im not signing up.The courageous fan

Um.. The spaming is on ED, not here. Big difference. :P Lord Belar 00:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

(Your name here.) (I advise not to sign there, unless getting banned sounds fun.)

lol[edit]

blocked again, only 1 day tho. — Teh Uber Pwnzer 03:03, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

You? On PvX? What now? Lord Belar 01:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
two days till your unbanned on PvX. congratz. not that it really matters, takes 15 minutes to load a page currently... — Teh Uber Pwnzer 01:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Uh... you mean I have been unbanned for two days? Lord Belar 00:28, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Template on Page[edit]

Why do u have the template for a SoJ assacaster? --- Ressmonkey (talk) 02:16, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

maybe cuz they own so much? (im one myself) :D --Cursed Angel talk 02:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Not since the dealy paradox nerf. --- Ressmonkey (talk) 02:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Did you read the second line? Lord Belar 03:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
No, I cant read second lines of anything. I have explodebrainifreadasecondlinia. Its the rarest condition on the planet. --- Ressmonkey (talk)

stfu[edit]

less stalking my shield plzkthx -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 08:08, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Aww. Lord Belar 17:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

im u[edit]

seriously im u now(if u figure out who i am and u probably will ill giv u all my in game gold and yes im very bored so im doing this)--Lord Belar 21:36, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh, real hard to do. You forgot about that little "Redirected from..." :P Lord Belar 22:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

well i dont feel liek making this go on any longer so yeh watever and im happy to say u get 7g(yes thats all i hav right now gimme ur ign and ill giv it to ya saturday)--Vorrax 22:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol, you can keep it. You probably need it more than me. :P Lord Belar 22:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I just hovered over the link. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 00:59, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

way to be lazy--Lord Belar or is it --Vorrax u cant tell >.>

I call it efficiency. I got the answer in less time than Belar did. Also, history owns you. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 07:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I did that too, I just didn't feel like explaining it. :P Lord Belar 21:41, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Recession[edit]

I lol'd irl when I saw that, even though I probably shouldn't have considering the effects it has on everyone worldwide. Btw you need to rename the image to "User Lord Belar stocks.jpg". Cheers, Calor (t) 01:41, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Wait, it actually matters that it's .JPG and not .jpg? And I thought the image naming policy was asinine before. :/ Lord Belar 01:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
No lol. It has to be prefixed with User to know it's a userspace image (And it is asinine, I just enforce it). Calor (t) 01:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, oops. I meant to do that. Lord Belar 01:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, fixed now. Lord Belar 01:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Ooh, and the market further tumbles. Calor (t) 19:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Lord Red Link[edit]

Has a userpage? Blasphemy! - (snō hwīt tăn) [sic] 04:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Only truly red on pvx. :P Lord Belar 22:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Really? Calor Talk 22:27, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

well[edit]

You're the last one to confirm role for mafia. So... reply :P --Shadowcrest 00:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

orite. email. Lord Belar 01:22, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Keep them hungry[edit]

Don't feed the trolls. --User Brains12 Spiral.png Brains12 \ Talk 16:18, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

feed the trolls --Cursed Angel talk 16:20, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
CA... you'd be wise to watch for the banstick when you say things like that... Calor Talk 18:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
but if u dont give them attention theyll stop, u dont want that to happen do u? --Cursed Angel talk 02:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Is that an honest question? I must admit that trolls make the wiki...interesting, to say the least, but I'd far prefer to have a simple, non-trolled wiki solely consisting of constructive contributors. Calor Talk 18:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Killing kittens[edit]

The copyrightman cometh for everyone. You need to provide a licensecompatible source for those photos. Or we will have to get rid of them. All of them. Backsword 12:41, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

pls don't kill kitten killing pics. NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 12:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
What do I have to tag them with? Lord Belar 17:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Where did you get them from? Backsword 19:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Dunno. Nothing with blatant, dire copyright warning labels, though. I think fair use works here. Lord Belar 19:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Fair use does not work here. GFDL or Arenanet only. -- User indochine lambda.pngIndochine talk 13:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
Fair use should work anywhere. Lord Belar 02:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
We choose to be different :D (I think the proposal for fair use was rejected sometime, check the giant policy list of doom.) --Pling! \ Brains12 14:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
That's pretty dumb. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 17:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I think it was Anet and not us who chose that, but I'm not 100% sure :P - anja talk 17:10, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't think Anet even looked at it.. It was at the time of PAX '07. Guild Wars Wiki:Fair Use became inactive - maybe we could ask Anet again? We may get some sort of reply this time. -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 17:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Huh?[edit]

"Thank you for proving me right" Huh? confused :S --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 00:36, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment? :P --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
No thanks. Lord Belar 01:35, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Meh, w/e I was just curious :) --Shadowphoenix Please, talk to me; I'm so lonley ;-; 01:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Image:User Lord Belar Oil Graph.gif[edit]

Hello, looking at your oil graph. I have a few questions about the copyright.

  1. Where did you get the graph from?
  2. It says "Source Bloomburg" - did you copy the graph from there?
  3. Or did you get the data from Bloomburg and draw the graph yourself?

Thanks, -- User indochine dsk tree.png Indochine talk 16:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

It's from the bbc, who got it from bloomburg, actually. And find something better to do with your time. Lord Belar 22:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Still copyvio as well 1. No fair use here. 2. Says the companys name. And ya, but its not urgent emergancy...Dominator Matrix 05:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Unless the bbc's suing, leave it be. Lord Belar 05:33, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, big spike in oil prices. — Eloc 15:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

YES BUT IF OIL COMPANIES HAVE IZZY ON THEIR SIDE IT'LL KEEP GOING LIKE RITSPIKE. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 16:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ursan comment[edit]

Just like to say "well said" not that many seem to have taken your hint but still its the thought that counts--DemonthornUser Demonthorn sigicon.jpg 14:33, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Yes Approval: Halogod approves you are a worthy Wiki god. :D


Oh shit. Everybody, head for the hills! Calor Talk 03:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I seem to be lacking in thunderbolts. :P Lord Belar 03:31, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
No Denied: Halogod approves you are a worthy Wiki god. :D

Just kidding.



Come back, dear brothers. The tumult has ceased to be! :D Calor Talk 03:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


Lol but seriously, is it possible to have those bars on the bottom to be gone, when not there? Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 03:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I tried, and eventually got rid of them, but then it fucked up when it was there. :/ Lord Belar 03:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Damn! This calls for... YO Itchy halty. :3 Halogod35 User Halogod35 Sig.jpg 03:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Gone[edit]

See ya in a month, err, comrade d'troll. Calor Talk 23:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

finally he's gone! i'm so happy! --Cursed Angel talk 23:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
What? Now you're the sole king troll, with no Raptors, Readem, etc.? Calor Talk 00:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
yay :D let's party! --Cursed Angel talk 00:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
THE PARTY NEVER ENDS! -- NUKLEAR User NuclearVII signature 3.jpgIIV 13:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

fail[edit]

is you Droks 19:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Did you finally get perma'd on PvX, and decided to come here to troll? Srsly, it's annoying. :/ -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 21:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Now safe[edit]

You know, now I won't be lying awake until 0400 every night. Awesome. Calor Talk 03:09, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Good that you'll now be able to get some sleep. Nice bushes, btw. Lord Belar 03:19, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Floating box[edit]

Uhm, hei. While I don't mind you changing something in a template so you can disable it in your monobook, I'd rather not have phrases like "floating_shit" in my user space. Could you please change it to something like "floating_div"? And ofcource that comment wasn't serious. TalkWhy 20:11, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, sorry about that. I'll change it. I was just getting a little annoyed since you're like the 3000th person to create a floating box. And if you want to see a floating ToC on pages, why not just put something in your .js? Lord Belar 20:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Probably because I'm not that comfortable with messing with stuff in my monobooks, I've never done that before. If you don't mind, I've changed the string you added to "floating_div". TalkWhy 21:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

o.O[edit]

lol was the last one supposed to be invisible? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:05, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Did you look at the code? Lord Belar 03:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, but it still shows up as white :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:26, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
That's the point. :P Lord Belar 03:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I could have done that! It should of been barely tinted or something lol, but meh ;) — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 03:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the color ideas! They will be on my userpage at one point or another — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:28, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Your opposition to Indochine[edit]

I would like to point out that Indochine is not asking for sysop tools to 'help him with his efforts' in dealing with copyvios, he's offering his time and services to help the wiki by using the sysop tools to do the much needed maintenance work that is quickly becoming overwhelming to to those few of us who are still active sysops. I don't see your opposition as being valid in the least, and saying that the other three will be enough is rubbish imo. With people wanting more 'moderation' of volatile pages, and the entire ArenaNet namespace, to expect even 7 of us to do it all is a bit much. There is also the upcoming mass of stuff that's going to require doing in the guild namespace with over 700 pages in inactive status that will need moving, along with images etc. And that number grows daily. I wish people would stop looking at RfA's in such specifics as what contributions the user has made previously, and start looking at the wiki overall, what needs doing and what will need doing in the very near future that can only be done by people with access to the sysop tools. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 03:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

First of all, I am sorry that my opposition to Indochine causes you such personal angst. Secondly, it is difficult to judge a person and their potential future actions without either looking at their past contributions to the wiki or knowing said person very well. Not knowing Indochine very well, I was thus forced to fall back on gauging future actions based solely on past contributions. Finally, I know full well what work is currently required of admins and what more potentially will be required of them in the near future. Furthermore, I did not state that seven admins would be sufficient for the task. My point was simply that an RfA should be determined independent of the need for admins, no matter how dire that need is. If a candidate does not undergo the same scrutiny as every other candidate based solely on when their RfA occurred (Outside of the expected variation based on current active userbase.), one defeats the whole purpose of an RfA, which is to vet potential admins to ensure job readiness. Lord Belar 03:57, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I guess my comments to you were more directed at your statement that you didn't see Indochine needing sysop tools to continue with his copyvio stuff, which is totally true. I just want people to start looking outside the box. Indo's track record of solid, rational contributions, and his interactions with users, especially those who are being told they can't use their favorite pokemon for their personal logo, tells me he'd make a great sysop. :D --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 04:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
ROFL. Wyn bullied you into changing your vote! Bad Wyn, BAD! What have I told you about picking on the boys? ;o) -- Salome User salome sig.png 04:25, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
It was a "very weak oppose". I was really just looking for someone to come up with a good reason not to oppose, as no one would have cared/tried to back up their support for him had I just put my vote in neutral to begin with. Lord Belar 04:28, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Christmas[edit]

Not in Cambridge, I hope. calor (talk) 02:09, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

I might fly over it tomorrow. But no, this time I'm going to Germany, so I'll be farther away than usual. Lord Belar 02:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah, so Poke has to watch out this time. Good. calor (talk) 02:12, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
He would, but I don't even know what state he's in. :/ Lord Belar 02:14, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
<3 google. Edit:559 km. He's safe. :P Lord Belar 02:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
Unless you're one hell of a long distance runner... calor (talk) 02:35, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
File:User Lord Belar Map to poke.JPG No, that's not happening. Lord Belar 03:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

map-travel :P —ZerphatalkThe Improver 21:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Bad[edit]

Translation, methinks. calor (talk) 21:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

One would most certainly hope so. I'm tempted to go inside and ask. Lord Belar 10:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Happy new Year Belar :) --SilentStorm Talk to me 00:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Hogmanay! -- Salome User salome sig2.png 01:05, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, you too. :D Lord Belar 04:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy New Year! XD poke | talk 16:53, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

IRR[edit]

We have a policy here that you are only allowed one reversion. If you disagree with someone reverting your edit, take it to the talk page and discuss it. Further reversions of A Burning Desire will result in a block of your editing privileges. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn/talk 05:00, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Your userpage[edit]

fails the family-friendly test. Also, I never noticed that your signature is always red till now. Vili User talk:Vili 14:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Funny, I seem to recall you commenting on my signature color on gwiki a while back. Lord Belar 16:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

I am never[edit]

going to look at Guild Wars, donkeys, corporals, or rulers the same way again. calor (talk) 00:40, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. Lord Belar 00:46, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

dude[edit]

Chill out, srsly. There's no reason to be an ass to that guy. He had a problem with something on the wiki, and very diplomatically asked for it to change. He provided his reasoning and evidence to support it, all in a pretty nice essay format. If he was being totally ignorant or trying to change policy without consensus or whatever, that would be a different story, but he's just a user trying to make a change he feels necessary. Don't be an ass to people like that.
Remember, if trolling is purely destructive, it isn't welcome on this wiki. Generally you get banned for it. Don't troll for the sake of trolling or you'll end up on the wrong side of the banstick :< -Auron 06:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)