User talk:Aiiane

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-- (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:24, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Pronunciation

So how would you say, you say your name? Is it i-ane? or ee-ane? or ane? I just don't know! :) --Lemming64 01:41, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Either "i-ann", or "ayane", I usually tend to use the former but I don't mind the latter and for a lot of people that's more natural to the way their language would pronounce it.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Lol, I've been wondering about this too. Good thing I usually read it as "i-ann" :) -- ab.er.rant

02:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification :) --Lemming64 06:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

I know it's a bit of topic necromancy, but I just wanted to say I think of it as Ay-an-ee, is that waht you meant by "ayane"? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Ebany Salmonderiel .

"ayane" = "i-ya-nei". First syllable is a long I sound, last syllable is a long A. Emphasis is on the second syllable.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are you Aiiane

of LibSlash fame? --71.229.253.172 04:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 07:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

+1 to you. --71.229.253.172 07:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I play Warhammer too and was wondering if that Aiiane was in fact you. :D GJ, too bad that game is nowhere near GW's quality. Month and a half in it and I'm feeling the same amount of boredom and lack of things to do as I did after some 2 years of GW. 89.172.133.82 17:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Really? One month in and I'm still finding a lot to do. Perhaps I just play at a slower pace and haven't exhausted all the features yet. -- ab.er.rant

08:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Psst

I case you haven't seen the update...[1] -Kim Chase 01:18, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

o.0

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 01:56, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Made you a necromancer. Backsword 02:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

That is so cool... Congrats!

Large 02:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your new NPC self. ^_^ --Nkuvu

03:07, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on the NPC Aiiane ^_^ --Kakarot

04:10, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Go Aiiane!!! gratz ^^ |Cyan Light

Here!| 09:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, that is what I call true integration of the wiki into the game =) --Xeeron 10:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats!! :D --

Indochine talk 11:13, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

nice, grats aiiane :D - Y0_ich_halt

11:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Contratulations Aiiane :). --Silverleaf

Don't assume, ask! 14:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Lucky you Aiiane. I cant say you dont deserve it, with all your work on the wiki and GWO. Keep it up! --Burning Freebies 16:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, congrats. Now wiki'ers have some recognition in GW!( sorry for late response, been away for a while...)--Raph Talk 23:07, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New comment?

I havent seen a new comment since November. Also, you havent completely accepted or declined the position on the election project page. --Burning Freebies 22:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Not all the talking I do is done on my own talk page (and even then, there has been activity here since November, it's just been archived). As for accepting/declining, you might want to take a look at past election pages - I've almost never posted an acceptance or declination till late in the stage.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 22:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. --Burning Freebies 17:52, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about your loss in the election. Better luck next time! --Burning Freebies 21:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A bit early but...

Happy birthday for tomorow. --Burning Freebies 14:01, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! |Cyan Light

Live!| 07:14, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday, Aiiane :) poke | talk 08:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. ^^

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 10:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Aiiane :) --Kakarot

14:47, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday! Hope you have a good one :) — Jon

Lupen 20:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Birthday

^^^ Just noticed it so I thought I'd say it. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 20:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

happy birthday --adrin

21:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

:D— Why

23:01, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy birthday!!!! Sentry007

23:22, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Happy bday Aiiane. Passifis 14:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Borrowing User page.

Hey there Aiiane. I just re-created my userpage, and I used your page as the template. I put your user name on it so everyone knows that you did it first, but if you don't like it just tell me and I'll make another one.

Regards, Boon.

You're more than welcome to do whatever you like with it. :)

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 21:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I have to say, both the quote and the design in general are rather epic. But I lack the time/effort/energy/ability/patience to redesign my page, so it'll stay 'til at least Summer xD --Alex

Eternal 19:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Apparent Ridiculous Zaishen Coins Implementation

As I see it they either need to be eliminated or seriously modified.

7500 copper for one gold.... ludicrous when missions seem to award 40 or 50 coppers.

No way to convert platinum or gold to Zaishen coins is like NOT having a rate of exchange between Euros and Dollars. How dumb is that?

You all tout and promote Weapons Packs and such and then make it darned near impossible to get them. Bad idea in my opinion.

Just some thoughts.

John McAulay aka Orange Roadkilling, et al --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.127.63.24 (talk).

It's not 7,500 copper for one gold; it's 500. 7,500 is for 15 gold, which may seem a bit high, but not impossible. --★KOKUOU★ 06:20, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Compared to things like frogs and BDS, I would actually say heavy packs are easier to obtain. I did the heavy pack in one month, not bad considering I had to do SoO for 2-3 months for a BDS.Pika Fan 06:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

You seem to have mistaken me as an ArenaNet employee. Unfortunately, that is not the case, so I'm afraid there's not much I could do for you even if I wanted to.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 12:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

On a similar note, I did SoO once and got a q9 BDS. The Zaishen coins take a long time regardless of anything else whereas chests and the like are all percentage based chances. It could take one try, it could never happen. 99.58.112.237 04:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

On a similar note, this thread is months old. -Auron 04:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I assume

you are watching the discussion on personal attacks on Gaile's talk. Please bitch at me if I start being too dickish; It's a habit I'm trying to avoid, and, well, maybe I could use a little help. -- Armond Warblade {{Bacon}} 20:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Personally I'm wondering why the hell everyone is arguing semantics.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:53, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Wiki-lawyering at it's best. --Lemming

00:54, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It's no secret that Shard and Gaile don't get along well; Shard should realize by now that his tone and endless badgering isn't welcome, and Gaile should just ignore him already. Seriously. Beyond that it's up to ArbComm - the request for a case has been submitted, any further discussion should really be happening there.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hangonhangonhangon

We have an active discussion going about categories, so don't get tooo hasty, I think the ones you've created have already caused a ragequit or two... (Satanael 04:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

I'm perfectly aware of that discussion.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit: I'm also sick of people on one hand saying that we need to discuss things more, and on the other hand saying that we're taking forever to do things.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:50, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, I was talking with Wyn (before I had created a single category at all) until she decided to quit off IRC. I would have been glad to continue discussing the matter with her, and it was her choice to leave.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 04:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

We don't want to move forward much until poke has figured of the mechanics of the suggestion list thing, since that will directly affect how we do the categories. But we still want to do something, so we are discussing and planning. We are all frustrated that this isn't going faster, but when you have several moving parts, sometimes timing doesn't work out. I'm only saying that while we may have some idea what categories we want, I'm not sure we've figured out that the traditional category page is how we are going to do it, as that will depend on what poke has to say about the coding of the lists themselves. Therefore, while I see that your categories are in line with what we have been talking about, I'm not sure that is how we are going to be doing them in the end. (Satanael 04:58, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

As someone who does know the technical end of things to an extent (see the "attn:poke" section, that was a conversation with poke, not a "oh poke, save us"), it's pretty certain that the topical categories can be created now without issue. Furthermore, last I checked the catchphrase of a wiki is that anything can be changed. Weren't you and Erasculio the people pushing to be able to "create the actual things instead of mocking them up in userspace"? You're welcome to continue discussing things. I see no reason why that conflicts with creation of a category or page.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:01, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what drama happened between you and wyn, and frankly I don't care, there is no need to transfer that frustration on to me. If you say that the categories you are creating are the obvious and clear way to proceed, I believe you. My understanding had been that other options were still on the floor, but as you point out, I am not a technical expert on this so I am in no position to argue. From my own experience some people have not appreciated it if I pressed forward too quickly, and I wanted to avoid repeating unnecessary drama, that was my only intent. If you feel comfortable that drama can be kept to a minimum, then I have mispoken and please continue. (Satanael 05:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

Before we continue, let me clarify; if I'm frustrated with you, it's not due to my interaction with Wyn; but rather due to the mixed messages I've gotten from various people, yourself included, regarding proceeding with this. One day, you want to start working on things directly, the next day you want to sit and deliberate without touching anything. I'm sure you see how this seems somewhat of a reversal, yes?

In addition, let me also state that the categories I'm creating are not holy writ. As I mentioned in my previous response, the core concept of a wiki is that anything can change. This includes new category layouts; just because something has been created does not mean it is final. However, typically when something is created there is more of an impetus for people to actually do something with it, even if that doing is merely saying that they prefer it were a different way.

I think we're past the stage of "avoiding unnecessary drama", because as far as I can tell, people are determined to create drama no matter what is done - in fact, it seems like every single step of this process has been fraught with drama because people aren't willing to just let someone else run with an idea even for a moment - everyone wants to be in control over the entirety of the process, and anyone who makes a step in another direction is instantly taken to task over doing something "wrong". I'm not immune to this either, but I am getting a bit tired of people seemingly working more towards destructive ends than constructive ones.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, let me point out: I have created a sum total of sixteen pages. That's it. Sixteen. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16. If for some reason, we decide that we want to lay things out differently, how hard is it, exactly, to either move or delete those pages within the category structure?

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:23, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Last but not least, I should also note that I don't mean to direct all of this towards you personally Satanael - you just happened to be the person to post on my talk page. The majority of what I've said here though is really aimed at those involved in the feedback namespace in general.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I have no problem with someone getting things done if no one else is doing anything, I do it all the time. The fact of the matter this time is there ARE other people who have been involved in a discussion regarding this, and I spent this entire day working out an option for the categorization structure, that YOU didn't like, and decided to just do it your way. I could just have easily (more easily in fact) created the categories the way I saw them, but instead asked for discussion by those who have shown an interest in being involved. -- Wyn

talk 05:43, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) x2Forgive me, but from my point of view, we are never past the stage of avoiding unnecesary drama. Unnecesary drama is, by definition, unnecesary. I am sorry if I have given off any mixed messages, at the time I was demanding action, it was because the steps people had agreed upon were not being taken, for reasons I could not see, and even the discussion of this process was dying. As for my own actions over the past few days, I can only say that I have been out of town over the weekend and did not have time to work on this as much as I would have liked. Again, if this sent a mixed message I apologize. I am not certain why this has caused such frustration, but it was, nevertheless, unintended.

As for your categories, by all means continue, I did not come to demand you stop. I just wasn't sure if you knew about the discussion and the issues as I understood them. As you have made it clear that you are aware of the discussion and are moving forward with that discussion in mind, then I can see no reason for you to stop your work.

I would only ask that, the next time you see me sending mixed messages, please ask me about them before you become angry with me, as that will make the whole process easier. (Satanael 05:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

To Satanael: I am not angry with you, merely frustrated. Were I angry, this conversation would be taking place on your talk page, not mine. ;)

To Wynthyst: Again, I would emphasize that what I've created is by no means set in stone, nor need it overrule whatever eventually consensus might be arrived at via continued discussion. If anything, for me it helps with discussion because it provides yet another reference point for opinions. Also, I am not sure if you noticed, but the categories I've created so far fit within the chart you had created exactly - so I'm not sure what you mean when you say "structure that you didn't like, so you did it your own way".

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:54, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

This is somewhat funny.. The last time somebody prepared something for the namespace and asked for discussion, you, Wyn, ignored that and just edited everything while expecting that the first person would just accept that...

Aiiane is correct, whatever categories are being created, a structurization system can easily be wrapped around them (and it is better that way anyway). I talked to her last week a bit about it and I think she is quite aware of what is possible and what not. And still the categories she created are very general. There are mainly only categories created for systems we will adopt anyway (all the bug report pages).

I am quite surprised actually how you all are reacting to this, where Aiiane just took the initiative. I don't remember anything in this direction when Wyn created all those Feedback pages at the very beginning for the ANet developers, as placeholders for redirects (which is alone quite hilarious imo), and without any structure; or when Wyn created multiple Skill feedback pages and deleted them later because the discussion made visible that the old structure was not the best idea to go with. I really don't understand that you expect others to discuss things, when you go around yourself and change everything yourself because you want it like that, or just to have something to do... poke | talk 09:25, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

My original comments were based on a misunderstanding of what could/should be done at that time, and I apologize, Aiiane, for causing unnecessary drama, which is precisely what I was trying to avoid when I first posted. (Satanael 14:53, 6 July 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Where is your NPC?

Hello Aiiane. I'm really bad at wiki editing or bb editing in general. I'm slow to read and about the same for typing, so please forgive me if you get back to this much faster than i do or if i've managed to put it in the wrong place. I've just been doing some research into summoning stones and i've found one i'd like to have crafted. The amber summoning stone is crafted by your NPC; however, i have been unable to find a map of how to get to her. I've never been to UW, but i have obtained 6 passage scrolls. I don't know if you even know where the NPC is, but i thought i'd ask and see. Thank you for your time. Dreamer n kansas

Aiiane is located in Urgoz's Warren (outpost), which is only accessible through a Passage Scroll to Urgoz's Warren. If you're looking for her in the Underworld, you've gone to the wrong place. :) --

Wandering Traveler 04:01, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

OP said UW, not underworld, I assume UW, in this case, stands for Urgoz's Warren :) (Satanael 04:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC))

....Well, that was stupid of me. If thats the case, she should be in there. wow, I need sleep.... --

Wandering Traveler 04:21, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

He he, not to worry, I nearly made the same mistake myself, but you beat me in an edit conflict :) (Satanael 05:18, 7 July 2009 (UTC))

Wandering Traveler already mentioned it, but my NPC self is in Urgoz's Warren (outpost) - note the "outpost" part of that - it's the staging area before you're actually in the mission itself. You should have no trouble locating "me" once you get to the staging area by simply holding down the proper key to show NPC names. :)

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 05:34, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

That was EXTREMELY easy, too bad it cost me a scroll and skill point. Thanks so much for your help. I thought you had to have a group and then the scroll took you to the mission.Dreamer n kansas

[edit] I really like your user page!

I hope you don't mind if I ~~shamelessly steal~~ copy your layout for myself? (wiki code confuses me very easily) Nate 03:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

You're more than welcome.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 03:22, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks Nate

03:26, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] This

Looks awesome! I didn' even think about preloading all that stuff onto someone's userpage. That will work really well. Thanks for doing all that. (Satanael 23:05, 12 July 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Hope you

feel better!! (Satanael 22:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Dear Aiiane,

I respect your position and all, but I don't think [2] is very... nice. Then again, you may not want to be nice, so it's up to you. Have a nice day #___^ ~~~ (Oh wait, I can't sign!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Moo Kitty (talk • contribs) at 19:31, 2 August 2009 (UTC).

What's the big deal with it anyway Aiine? You block him if he doesn't fix his signature image? Sounds bullshit to me :P - J.P.

Talk 20:06, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Not image, the whole signature. It's not bullshit, it's written in the policy. poke | talk 20:11, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, i get it. I thought it was about his image again. My mistake. - J.P.

Talk 20:14, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion titles

I'm not sure if you know the answer to this, but in our instructions we have been telling people that there is a 40 character limit to suggestion titles. I'm wondering if, on the coding side, this is actually true? When I first wrote it, there were no mechanics for suggestion creation, and I thought 40 characters was a good number, but I don't actually know if anybody coded that limit in as I had thought they would. Do you happen to know if that limit got coded in anywhere? (Satanael 15:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC))

There's no way to code a limit into the createbox afaik; one 'might' be able to code it into the template so a suggestion wouldn't be listed if the name were longer than that, but that wouldn't prevent the page from being created.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 16:22, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, okay, thanks. I'll reword our instructions to reflect that. (Satanael 16:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC))

technically there is no limit in page name lengths (no, I won't give an example now.. However there was a vandal for example which name went over three lines in the page title..); but restricting this somehow prevents people from writing essays in it and would blow up the lists. And I agree that 40 is a good number for that :) poke | talk 17:05, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad you like the number :P I've reworded the instructions to reflect the 40 character limit as more of a desire than a technical limitation. We may have to deal with people that ignore it and write on essay in the title. Unless either of you would be willing to try and put a limit into the template, as Aiiane posits... (Satanael 17:27, 11 August 2009 (UTC))

I don't think we would currently be technically able to check if the length is okay.. poke | talk 18:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I see, well, I guess we'll just have to go with it as is then. I doubt super long titles will become a big issue anyway. (Satanael 19:36, 11 August 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Wrong pic sorry

I uploaded the wrong picture for the monk elite monument scalp design. could you delete it for me please?

17:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Azoth Rumithan17:45, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Just upload a new image over it (and remove my deletion tag ;)). -- FreedomBound

17:49, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] French Wiki

Hello, Aiiane, I'm Boungawa, one of the administrators of the main French Wiki, I would have liked to know if, now that almost all articles exist on our wiki, it could become the French official Wiki with the IG links (F1) which clock on, for the France, this one. Thanks for your answer. - Boungawa 15:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

That'd probably be something you'd need to talk with Emily Diehl or another ArenaNet member about. There might be some licensing issues involved.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:54, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer, I'm transmiting ;). - Boungawa 14:12, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I'm not angry, son, I am disappoint

When you believe a user's actions to be disruptive, it is generally considered polite to flash their talk page before applying a block, unless those actions are so disruptive as to be an immediate danger to the health of the wiki or its users. Thank you, have a nice day.

P.S. If you must block me, please instead ask me to stop posting. It's easier, and for some reason, vim won't work on the whole site while I'm blocked so I have to use the stupid mouse to browse. –Jette 07:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

http://wiki.guildwars.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Auron&diff=prev&oldid=1753363 You had your request. Even without it, you should have known better.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 07:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

You know, putting a message to user A on user b's page isn't the best way to reach user A... I didn't actually see that message until after you blocked me. –Jette

08:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Again, the message shouldn't be necessary in the first place.

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 08:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

i got a problem with attribute points a quest called forgoten wisdom seems to be missing for me for some reason was woundering if there was a way to fix it? thx kronicle man

[edit] Not Inactive

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Guild:Wings_Of_Lythia_%28historical%29

This guild has been labeled inactive, this is my Guild, and I am most certainly not inactive. The note ont he page indicates that there is no Wings of Lythia guild on GW anymore, which is just simply wrong. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:58.106.155.19 (talk).

As per GWW:GUILD, if a guild page on the wiki doesn't receive any updates in three months, it gets tagged as historical. That said, this is a wiki, which means you are certainly free to remove the historical tag at the top of that page. --★KOKUOU★ 08:51, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

I see, it's just that the top of the page states that this page should not be edited. I was concerned about that having repercussions were I to alter it myself. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:58.106.155.19 (talk).

Oh, no, that just means that information shouldn't be altered if the guild is, in fact, disbanded/inactive and the historical tag is required. If it is still active/not disbanded, then by all means, the historical tag should be removed. I can do it if you're not sure how to, if you'd like. :) --★KOKUOU★ 06:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Moved back to its original location. Remember that guild articles are expected to be edited at least once every 3 months to make sure the guild still exists.--Fighterdoken 06:45, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks like Kokuou has cleared this up for you already, 58.106. :)

(Aiiane - talk - contribs) 09:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Not really, more like FD and Wyn. :O --★KOKUOU★ 09:53, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much :)