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[edit] User Page

I'd like to borrow aspects of your page. May I? -- Arkhar 04:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Sure :) -- ab.er.rant 04:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

As a related question, in the format you use on your characters page, is there a way to put characters 6->9 beneath characters 2->5? -- Arkhar 21:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Sure, just add a new row to the table, a |- valign="top". I hope you don't mind me editing your character page to put it in. -- ab.er.rant 00:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

No complaints here. :) -- Arkhar 23:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Leaving a note that I'll most likely want to borrow your rounded bar elements from your Characters page. Yukiko 10:09, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Wohkay :) -- ab.er.rant 13:52, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to do Signatures

Hi, I am new to Wikis, how do you make a sig with diferent fonts and images? Is there a special option for that? Thanks!--Gabeeshy 12:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Help:Signatures should help you to find out more about sigs and how to customise them. -- Brains12 \ Talk 14:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!--Gabeeshy 14:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Elections

A few quick questions before the elections get here (I am going to try to ask each sysop and users, who imo deserve it, these questions):

1. If you were nominated would you accept?
   
2. If so, Do you believe that you would make a good bcrat?
   
3. Would you be able to make wise choices when it comes to selecting administrators?
   
4. Would you be sure to explain your actions when using your powers as a bcrat?
   
5. Would you wear you status as a bcrat as a badge?
   
6. Would you consider policy before taking any and all actions?
   
7. How do feel towards our wikis community?
   

That should be enough. Thanks! --Shadowphoenix 21:30, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for asking. I'll think about it. -- ab.er.rant 10:45, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

1. Admittedly, I'm not 100% sure about this. There's one point that others will most likely bring up: my timezone. I noticed that Bex (in a nearby timezone) is less active these days so if the proposed changes to the admin does not get through, there's going to be gap of several hours with no sysop around. But if I get nominated, I'll accept. It's up to the voting users. I'll answer the rest of your questions regardless.
2. I think so, but what I believe is less important than what others believe. If others think that I would, then I'll try to meet their expectations.
3. Given how our RfA works, I don't see how difficult it is to gauge the relative support and oppose votes.
4. Bureaucrats are required to explain their actions so I don't think I'll last very long if I don't.
5. Are you asking whether I'll brandish it about? The most I'll do is change my little sysop link on my user page to point to the bureaucrat section instead. And I have to add in an email address too it would seem.
6. Do I currently, as a sysop? I don't believe I'll act much differently than I do now.
7. I like it here, the good and bad of it. That's why I'm still around.

-- ab.er.rant 11:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Here we go! Guild Wars Wiki:Elections/2008-04 bureaucrat election/Ab.er.rant. I hope you'll accept.--Dirigible 10:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Since the admin draft I'm currently following will allow bcrats to continue acting as sysops, I fully support this nomination. —Tanaric 16:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both. -- ab.er.rant 04:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Gl. — ク Eloc 貢 03:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, you too :) -- ab.er.rant 04:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, even thought I probably wont come anywhere near you in Support votes ^^;; lol — ク Eloc 貢 04:09, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Warhammer

You play Warhammer 40k too? :D First person ive seen on here that does, i love that game ;D Though im still not very good at it hehehe Anywho cya around the wiki  :D Darren Blacktail 10:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

The keyword is "played" :D I still have Winter Assault sitting on my table and I've yet to get the other two expansions... I feel so left out by my two other friends who have more time to play the additional expansions. But then again, they don't have time for GW :D so it's fair. -- ab.er.rant 10:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edits

Thanks for the Edits. Im still new to the way things works so I appreciate it. The only reason i removed your first one was so that I could keep the page clean for guildies and other questions/ comments. --Yamahasynth 05:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

New sections go to the bottom ;) No worries, everyone's new at least once. I was just hoping I didn't offend you by feeling like I was hounding your edits or something :) Welcome to the wiki! -- ab.er.rant 05:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

No not at all. Well ty again!!--Yamahasynth 05:26, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Extra Profile Info

I have seen the extra profile info around wiki. (such as the necromancer at heart one) Where can I get those?--Yama 05:37, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

It's just a template that you can use by including, say, {{User Necromancer}} on your page. You can also start browsing for ideas in Category:Users providing user page layouts. Take note of our user page policy as well. -- ab.er.rant 05:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Ty again for the help.--Yama 05:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rant

Hey, just read your "rant". For what its worth, I think you acted just fine in the recent debacle. I personally would not have blocked Kougar at that point, but you were the person on the spot and you acted reasonably. That's the point of admin discretion - it's very easy to have 20/20 hindsight after the event but someone has to make the tough calls when they come up. I think you can see from the positive reaction you your buro candidacy that most of the wiki recognises this and has faith in your judgment.Cassie 09:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate it. -- ab.er.rant 01:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Replica description

Hi. Since you're the last (active user) who replied on the talk page of Unique Items I wanted to ask you the question I posted there. Could you have a look? I don't want to go on editing if I'm doing that part wrong. Thanks. BlazeRick 10:08, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I was? Heh, I don't remember. I don't pay much attention to the greens project (mostly because I suck at getting greens and I'm too lazy to farm), but I'll take a look and respond there. -- ab.er.rant 01:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :D BlazeRick 18:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character Page

For a while now I've been trying to think of a way to keep your Character page horizontal while removing the horizontal scrolling. While working on something else I came across the overflow attribute of div's and after some testing have come up with a possible solution for you. Before your second character; Silk Harpsong; immediately after the {{clear}} you could add the code <div style="width:960px; overflow: auto"> and add the end div tag right after the last character before the end of the table. While it is similar to how you have it now, it removes the actual extra space on the right while keeping the same layout. Although I personally dislike using % dimensions when it comes to tables, you could also try 100% for the width, that way it would be fine no matter what resolution people are on. The width I chose is based on my screen resolution - 1280x1024 so might need some tweaking but hopefully you like the result :) --Kakarot 16:54, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You been thinking about "for a while now"? :D My characters page proved a challenge you couldn't ignore eh? Heheh. Thanks :) Another user told me about something like that some time before but since it just moved the scrollbar from the window into an inline/embedded sort of thing, I was too lazy to figure it out :D since you so kindly provided the HTML, I won't waste it. I actually wanted to stack them all up on top of each other but without any large whitespace between them, but I just haven't gotten around to actually testing to see how it looks :D Thanks again. -- ab.er.rant 17:03, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Now there is only something needed to move the scroll bar to the top :| poke | talk 17:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I did notice your character page a while back but only came across that code a month or so ago. It was only after seeing you make a change to your characters page today that I remembered that I hadn't mentioned it to you lol. Glad I could help, especially since your userpage inspired my own :) --Kakarot 17:14, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] @_@

ಠ_ಠ --Shadowphoenix 06:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Shh.. I'm supposed to be away from the wiki :P -- ab.er.rant 06:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

*whispers* I know I was staring at you casue your not supposed to be here. YOU SAW NOTHING! --Shadowphoenix 06:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] hi

hi,您好，谢谢您的关注。--Weillz 08:25, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

不用客气 -- ab.er.rant 09:12, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

that makes sense, japanese on an english wiki. hmmm....--Sum Mesmer Guy 09:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

It's Chinese actually :) -- ab.er.rant 09:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

same thing, pretty much. my point still stands though--Sum Mesmer Guy 09:31, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Just like English and French are the same? Right.. -- Brains12 \ Talk 13:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it was something around eighty percent of English is derived from French? --People of Antioch 15:24, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Which was derived from Latin? Calor 16:26, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

influenced in huge parts :D but, ya, japanese and chinese are kinda like that since japanese characters are copy pasta from chinese ones. - Y0_ich_halt 16:35, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the Japanese didn't have their own writing language but then saw the Chinese's writing language and kind of adapted it from them. — ク Eloc 貢 16:55, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

yes, they adapted it. you can find most characters of the katakana alphabet in kanji, which you can find in chinese language, too. - Y0_ich_halt 17:48, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

hi,you use MSN?请问 AB.er.rant ，您使用msn吗？--Weillz 17:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait English is a Germanic based language not a latin based language. Meaning most of our language usage is actually from the north of Europe, french is only secondary to that. (Or at least that's what my language tutor told me) Yeh as for chinese and Japanese, still very different languages but the Japanese is basically a copy and paste job from china. (Like most of Japanese culture up until the last couple of hundred years) -- Salome 11:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

有用MSN. Email me and I'll reply. -- ab.er.rant 02:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help!

Hi, Ab.er.rant, if you can see my user page i have a few of userboxes on there but i have to keep editing and putting spaces in so they line up properly, but on other people's pages i see them all lined up properly and with loads of boxes on there, if you can see what i mean by editing my page and then maybe telling me how i can improve it. thanks help would be greatly appreciated. MRD 21:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Is that what you wanted? :) poke | talk 07:33, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

yeah thanks, do i just copy what you put like |) or whatever it is and then another userbox?

That is the table syntax; inside {| and |} you can define rows with |- and cells with |. For more information see Help:Table on meta poke | talk 17:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help with wiki policy

Hi, Ab.er.rant. Thanks for checking with me on my talk page. Yeah, it would be great if you can help me introduce the wiki policies to the Chinese users on there, because it might be difficult for them to understand all the policies in English. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions or concerns on this :). --Jason Yu 00:11, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I could try and translate some of them (partially though), but since I'm not fully Chinese-educated, it'll be slow going. They can learn it bit by bit. For starters, the link I pointed out on your talk page is a good place to start from, since discussion appears to be primary motivation for it. Might I suggest pointing them to forums instead if all they want is to discuss GW stuff? A wiki is not exactly conducive for good organisation of discussion threads. (I'm replying here because it's much faster to type in English ;) -- ab.er.rant 02:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yup, I totally agree that a forum is a better place for doing this. Though it is quite difficult to find a Chinese GW forum now, and at the same time I am still looking for a better solution for this. I agree that it's rather hard to organize the discussions, and I really really appreciate your help :). --Jason Yu 19:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks, I was trying to figure out what happened to the coding there, and why that page was not displaying correctly after I added in the missing images.  :) ~ J.Kougar 17:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

did i miss something? i thought u were blocked.--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:06, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

J.Kougar's block duration has finished and his Arbitration is resolved, so he's free to resume editting. - Tanetris 18:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

right, my mistake--Sum Mesmer Guy 18:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

My block was actually supposed to run out on the 8th, but because I asked for Arbitration my block was extended another six days. ...but yea, that's all taken care of now. ~ J.Kougar 15:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Did I miss something too? :D I can't remember what I did to deserve a thanks. -- ab.er.rant 02:38, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

My mistake. After I uploaded missing images to the male elementalist Elite Stoneforged armor page a few days ago, only the first and third images were displaying. I refreshed a bunch and looked at the code, but did not see the issue. I started to ask someone about it but then noticed the page was working, and a quick glance revealed that you made the last edit... so I assumed you saw the error and fixed it, so I said thanks. Upon closed look I saw that you made that edit long ago, so I'm still not sure why the page wasn't displaying correctly for a while there, but the important part is that it works now.  :) ~ J.Kougar 15:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

That's our stupid image cache, probably :) - anja 15:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I thought it might have been, but I'd never seen it do that when there was no prior image, and one was then loaded. Oh well.  :) ~ J.Kougar 15:13, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

It happens to images with no prior versions as well, just less often. Sometimes the images would fail to load up on the image page but shows up in the article where it's used. Sometimes it fails to load up as a thumbnail but loads up nicely on the image page. That's what I noticed anyway. -- ab.er.rant 15:59, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hall of Monuments

" It's a little difficult to justify spending my time grinding for the titles when we have absolutely no specifics on what the Hall of Monuments actually does in GW2."

I hear you on that. Deep down I have the fear that we are all spending weeks of ingame time to grind titles and in the end all we will get is some room with status reading "btw, your great grandfather was a really cool guy" in GW2... --Xeeron 09:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey dudes! So what would be a cool thing to happen/see/be given in the Hall of Monuments? --Xasxas256 10:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I'd hope for quite a bit of exclusive content. Nothing unfair gameplay-wise, just easily recognisable and/or exclusive content. I have no idea what exactly I would accept though, which is why I'm having a hard time figuring out what exactly might ArenaNet offer that would make the title grind worthwhile yet still keep it fair for new players. As Xeeron said, if all I'm getting is a lousy title or exclusive emote or special minipet, I won't bother with HoM anymore. -- ab.er.rant 12:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

It should be something similar to the current collector's edition rewards: Cool eye-candy, but not direct ingame benefits. Stuff that would be nice to get imho (in decreasing order of awesomeness):

• Access to some unique areas/NPCs
• Unique appearances
• Unique sidekick/minipet/whatever we'll have in GW2
• Unique emotes

Stuff I'd rather not see:

• A decent weapon
• Armor bonus
• A special ability

So yeah, I ask for less than aberrant, but just a statue somewhere ... no. --Xeeron 12:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help new to wiki

User talk:Saint Snipahoho From Guild Wars Wiki Jump to: navigation, search

I dunno if this is within the policy but I am using a template which I dunno how to edit to make it Image:user_Saint Snipahoho.jpg.

if someone can advise me on this then I wouldn't mind the help. If it is fine then i will leave it be.

--Saint Snipahoho 20:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

   Please place your character info in your own user space. You already have one at User:Edward yau/Characters. To rename your images, you have to re-upload. -- ab.er.rant 07:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC) 

If when creating the page I knew that my I couldn't change my user page then i will agree to this. I rather have Edward Yau Deleted instead of this one. As most people in my guild know me as Saint Snipahoho and not Edward yau.

Also the Image I reuploaded it as the template for this page only uses Saint_Snipahoho.jpg so unless you can help change it for me to http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Image:User_Edward_yau_Saint_Snipahoho.jpg. I have reasons for have 2 character sheets since one suits the main page.

And how come instead of advising me I get this anyways?

I have placed a userbox saying i am new to wiki.

Please Advise --Saint Snipahoho 11:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Anja already explained some things to you after you asked this question. Do you still need further clarification? -- ab.er.rant 13:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removal of guild cleanup tag

Hi aberrant. Just wondering why you removed the guild cleanup tag off this page. It still seems to be too image-heavy to conform with our guild pages policies. Much of the content seems to also go beyond documenting the guild, which is also one of our guidelines. Kokuou 18:02, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The first is that the guild clean up tag was first created to make sure guild pages actually use our formatting style and not whatever style they want. The style we're enforcing is to ensure that they provide the basic information on their guild as well as contact info. The idea behind the policy and guidelines is to prevent guild page writers from treating it like their very own personal homepage - that is, we want to stop them from using a wiki page for their personal guild use. I personally don't really care how much info they dump into a guild page, since most people won't bother reading those stuff, even if they're interested in joining. As long as they're not using it like it's some sort of guild news page, recruitment forum, discussion board, etc. (i.e. not editing it often), I'm not inclined to take the trouble to ask them to trim it. If you still feel that it should be trimmed, do revert my change and I'll leave it to some other sysop to decide. -- ab.er.rant 13:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, okay. No worries then; that makes sense. I think the user that created the page is misinterpreting the purpose of our guild-documenting section, but I suppose as long as it's not used for a message center, it's fine. Thanks for the clarification. :D Kokuou 13:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] personality test

imo personality tests are as accurate as iq tests, which means that they suck, u cant tell someones personality or intelligence based on a few questions, you would have to look at every aspect of ones life, and be observed for at least 10 years to even accurately determine a type of personality, also, people group personalities in few groups, when in reality, the people who made personality,and intelligence tests were simple minded, or at least not open minded, and ignorant to the fact that every person in the world has thier own personality, so what im sayin is.. that personality test means nothing--Arrythmia 22:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

sry, but anything that groups such a far reaching, and wide diversity of people, whether it be by race,sex,age,personality,or intelligence generally annoys me--Arrythmia 22:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

It's well known that there are always exceptions to every rule, so obviously these types of tests don't work on 100% of people. However, psychology studies have shown that they are fairly accurate for the majority of the population. Of course they're not going to predict every minuscule personality trait, and they don't claim to.

It's also well documented that IQ tests test only logic and reasoning abilities, as opposed to other types of intelligences. And yes, IQ tests are fairly accurate for the most part because of their nature; a person's average is calculated based on the average scores of other participants. They find the average number correct for the population, and that score becomes 100; anything above or below that is a simple comparison to the population as a whole. But you'd know that if you took any first-year university psychology course. Kokuou 01:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Personality tests are like exams and school papers Arrythmia. They don't really mean anything either. Those papers don't really measure exactly what you know, but yet they're still used ;)

But I understand what you mean. I don't take them dead serious, but some of the quizzes can be fun. The good quizzes are those that not only tell you what type of a person you are, but also tries to analyse what you might be lacking in. The latter part can be a good way to learn about yourself. Obviously, you can't accurately measure a person's intelligence or personality. But these help in statistics. These test results help generalise a segment of a population for categorisation. Rather than saying we have 6 billion personality types in the world, it's more useful to try to group these diverse people into a much smaller set of categories. Trying to devise a way to analyse 6 billion categories isn't exactly fun or useful. By attempting to group people into broader categories or segments, tools and analysis become more meaningful and useful. It's important to remember that these tests are not meant to be 100% accurate. They're meant to offer a generalised perspective of whatever they're trying to categorise. They don't measure it as a whole, they only measure a certain aspect. -- ab.er.rant 13:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User:63.209.236.223

There is probably some blatent answer to this that I'm not seeing, but why were the recent edits from this IP reverted? most of them seemed constructive; the only one not allowed being the article on Riven Earth, which belonged in GW2W....Just curious, thats all. -- Wandering Traveler 01:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Personally, I feel that all GW2 related lore and facts should go into the GW2 wiki, since that's what it's set up for, so I used that as the primary reason for proposing deletion. But in this case, is there a dragon in Riven Earth? I haven't been there in a while but I don't recall anything like that. So I did not use that as the primary reason. -- ab.er.rant 01:52, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I remember seeing something similar to what he is describing in Riven Earth...it could be one of them. I'm not caught up on my GW2 Lore >.<. but the deletions make sense. Thanks for clearing that up. -- Wandering Traveler 01:54, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking at his addition to the Tyria (world) article, either he's got some really good inside information, or he's making stuff up, because I've never seen the Mursaat referred to as soldiers of the gods.--Pyron Sy 01:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Support

Hiya Ab.er, thanks for taking the time to support me in my recent RFA, I will do my best not to disappoint you :) --Kakarot 02:40, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Gratz and good luck :p -- ab.er.rant 06:08, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User Page Help

Hi, I would like to know how you manage to have your userpage all neat with a border and different colours and links and such. Mine is just plain text with a few (disorganized, don't know how to organize them) templates. Please can you help me? Wipe-Out 07:14, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

You can start with Help:Editing and Help:Templates. For greater details check out the wiki code help under my "Links" section. Also, if you want some ideas or easier-to-understand templates, take a look at Category:Users providing user page layouts. For your userboxes, you'll need to use some table syntax to align them together. If you need more help, ask me something more specific. It's hard to explain everything in one go without knowing how much you know. -- ab.er.rant 08:27, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

i tried to accomplish that task here ^^ - Y0_ich_halt 15:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Impressive! You could consider putting it in as part of the Help namespace. -- ab.er.rant 15:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

i wanna hog credit :P - Y0_ich_halt 15:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol :D try adding "See also" sections then. -- ab.er.rant 16:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Landmark navs

So what does <span style="white-space: nowrap;"> mean? — ク Eloc 貢 00:53, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

The text inside the span will be all be kept on one line. Open up one of the bigger navbars and try shrinking your browser window slowly and you'll see that css in action. It's mostly unnecessary in that particular navbar actually... but I just put it there since I'm adding it to all the templates, just for the consistency of it. -- ab.er.rant 01:12, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ic. Very clever with your CSS skills ;) — ク Eloc 貢 01:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Election

Just wanted to congratulate you on your new role! Knew you would get it when you decided to run. Enjoy! -- Salome 12:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations. — ク Eloc 貢 16:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

WOOHOO, just saw Xeeron give you the new powers. yay!!! -- Salome 23:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Just saw that on the RC as well. Have fun with the new role :) -- Wandering Traveler 23:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

23 minutes to early!!! ;) poke | talk 23:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Quick, someone start an ArbComm case against me. I want to be arbitrated by Aberrant! --Dirigible 23:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm...*ponders* well according to CoRrRan, you're a bot, lets arbcomm you for that. -- Salome 23:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Congrats, now I'll go stir up some trouble so I can get an ArbComm b4 Dirgible lol XD --Shadowphoenix 23:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I wish you all the best in your new position Aberrant. --Xeeron 23:42, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Dir, I don't agree with that!! poke | talk 23:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You'll do a great job as a bureaucrat. Congrats! Calor 00:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on the new position Ab.er although it will be a bit weird for a while not having you as a sysop. --Kakarot 03:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey man congrats! --Xasxas256 13:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations, Aberrant. I guess this means more deletion work for the rest of us :P -- Brains12 \ Talk 15:41, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Strange, and me and Brains were just on about the latest spree we had together. Congrats once again. --People of Antioch 19:34, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks all, I'll be sure to accept if someone officially accuses Dir of being a bot XD I guess instead of deleting stuff, I'll go and gather stuff for deletion instead. -- ab.er.rant 07:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

One horrifying avenue is content contribs. (I seriously think some admins forget that possibility sometimes.) Backsword 03:04, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Except contributing to content doesn't require sysop tools to do it -- we all contribute, but it has no relevance to this discussion. The fact that Aberrant can no longer delete stuff (which was something he did regularly) is why I brought deletion up. If contributing to normal content could only be done as a sysop, then I would have commented on that too -- Aberrant is great with that as well. As it stands, that's not the case, so it wasn't brought up; we can contribute no matter which user right we have. -- Brains12 \ Talk 12:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow. Someone needs to have a stick removed. Backsword 06:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, one thing to take note is that admin stuffs, even something relatively simple like deletion, eats up a portion of a finite amount of time that can be spent on the wiki. I should be updating the locations page as a slightly faster rate now :) (I hope, heheh, it's just different updating or adding now compared to updating or adding while I was playing through the game) -- ab.er.rant 06:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Gj! I knew you would win :D--Raph Talky 22:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] VIII

Eight rocked, and is my favorite as well (although it's the second one I played, after 7 - I liked eight more mostly because of Seifer). I picked up 3 for DS too, and wasn't let down; it's way different than the more complex (in battle and in storyline) later games, but it's still a good game. I had to remind myself that the whole "you're the good guys, go kill stuff" style of story was common in games back then, but aside from that, I liked the class-changing system... although they had some pretty bad balance issues. Managed to get two play-throughs of FF3 before getting bored and moving on, that's better than most games I've played recently :p -Auron 11:38, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I know this sounds pathetic of me, but I'm still a VII man myself, I know most true FF fans don't agree, but for it's day it was still so groundbreaking and Tifa always appealed to me (also i liked the materia). I never really got into 9, all the charecters disturbed me, princess with a deformed huge head, monkey boy, giant rat etc.... they just weren't the type of charecters i could emote to easily. Also the learning skills from weapons things i found a bit of a drag. I never really understood X, i completed it twice in the hopes of understanding it and still never got my head round what the hell the stroyline was about. X2 was TERRIBLE though! It was like playing with a Barbie in RPG format. As for XII, well its great except I still don't like the new real time fighting engine it introduced. However imho VIII did have the best overall charecters, although Laguna, or whatever her name was, needed to eat a pie or two, that girl was way too skinny. I just didn't like the "Draw" system, I know lots of peeps say it added tactics to what you cast as you didnt have an infinate supply of it, but at the same time I found it annoying; Also not to mention that i accidentally spread the random card play system all over the world as i didn't know if you refused a set number of times they stopped asking you to play with it. Doh! Anyhoo, still mainly a Suikoden, Vandal Hearts and Shining Force fella myself. -- Salome 12:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

VI. That is all. LordBiro 13:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Yea, VI was quite something, huge number of characters to choose from, and a couple of them were well fleshed out. Auron, if you liked the class system on FF3, have you tried FF Tactics? I went through it partway in PS and thinking of getting the remake on PSP... only problem is that I don't have a PSP, lol.

I'm a completist for FF games so yea, random in FF8 is a pain. I have a standalone triple triad game sitting on my hard drive. Can't remember where I downloaded it from. It's a fan-made program. TetraMaster on FF9 was way more tedious though. I gave up trying to collect every single card, heh, I even made up a chart on what cards I was missing until I got bored of it. -- ab.er.rant 14:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Never tried VI, I have played tactics and honestly I hated it. I don't like ones where you make your own charecters, as it makes it really hard to emote to them. (it's all about the emoting) It reminds me on that Disgea game which was basically exactly the same as FF tactics just with different charecters, but the same game mechanism. -- Salome 15:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

I think you got it from the qhimm site. I got that one too but have never used it.

Yeah, my friend had me play FFT a bit, but I knew if I kept playing I'd get hooked (I got hooked on FFTA, which everyone says is a much worse game). He had me say my birthday was in February so I could 1v1 that strong boss later on, but I never got past the fifth or sixth mission. If I happen across a PSP, I'll probably get the remake, but like you, I don't have one atm :< -Auron 02:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:User ZenRgy Peachfaec.jpg

Weird how it works for you, for me the image doesn't show up at all just a link and when I click that link it gives the following error: The image “ http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/2/27/User_ZenRgy_Peachfaec.jpg "cannot be displayed, because it contains errors. Even weirder is when I put that link in above without the extra : in front of image it gave a link as well? --Kakarot 02:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I replied on the talk page there. -- ab.er.rant 02:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Guild Wars Wiki:Elections/Draft 3

Since it's your proposal (so, presumably, you have the best idea how to implement it), do you want to edit Draft 3 in such a way as to merge stages 2 and 3? *Defiant Elements* +talk 13:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I'll give it a go. -- ab.er.rant 02:15, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] ArbComm

Do you think we should post something on the noticeboard asking sysops to respond...... or is that really needed? --Shadowphoenix 03:46, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't believe that is necessary. Sysops will have the arbitration page watched. Throwing it out to the noticeboard is just going to call more attention to the arbitration request. -- ab.er.rant 03:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

True, ok. That was a bad idea sorry :) --Shadowphoenix 03:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Disp

Could you do me a favour and look into the revert situation of Against the Charr. I'd like a second opinion on the validity of reverts before pushing further, to avoid being blinded by lack of perspective. Backsword 05:16, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, let me do some reading up. -- ab.er.rant 05:26, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

I've replied in Talk:Against the Charr. Let's try to hit a spot in the middle. -- ab.er.rant 06:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Character Appearance Gallery

Thanks for the feedback on my prototype appearance gallery. I've put a more complete version here: Face Gallery Demo 1. Take a look and let me know what you think. That page has faces grouped by each campaign. There's another link at the end of the article pointing to a sample of the gallery grouped by profession here: Professions Appearance Gallery. Thanks for any suggestions. --Luke1138 22:27, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I actually liked your prototype gallery more, primarily because it's much simpler. Including the whole character creation screen makes it impossible for someone to just load up the page and browse at a glance, like an overview. I'd have to click each and every image link to just see the available options, instead of being of able to see all of it without further clicking. -- ab.er.rant 03:14, 12 May 2008 (UTC)