ArenaNet talk:Guild Wars 2 suggestions

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Good/Bad Karma

already exists in other games, but I'd like making friends with the tengu. :D --Chaos Messenger 21:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You know about the Angchu right? Backsword 08:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
You know about the Kurzicks right? 14:28, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Ouch :S (Terra Xin 00:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC))

Should we even bother?

Its starting to seem to me that we aren't getting anymore good or original ideas in the GW2 suggestion pages. We are constantly seeing pages out up with ideas that have already been suggested, as well as some really lame ideas. More than a few have been put up with no content other than the title. And considering that Anet should be a fair ways along with the development of GW2 (though some here would argue that that would be giving Anet to much credit) can they really put in many of the suggestions at this point? Now I have very little understanding of the coding and programing that goes into making a game like GW or GW2, so for all I know they can. I guess what I'm trying to say is, should we bother keeping the GW2 suggestions page open? I know your collective answers are probably going to be "yes", but I felt I had to through this out there.--Will Greyhawk 16:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I've thought of the same thing. Some suggestions are quite small and are still doable, while bigger ones aren't. But we can't draw a clear line between what's big and what's not. ---Chaos- 21:03, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually, if you check the CP talk, you'll see that there already is an answer, which is pretty much "no". However, we're waiting on an response from Anet on what to do instead. Backsword 08:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

IMHO, the thing with suggestion is, however small the contribution, if it could sparks even a tiny bit of new ideas in the dev team's mind, then it help, suggestions are for to discuss, not for to bash, unless they are actually really just posting some gibberish, some reasons as to why the suggestion are bad are actually bad themselves, for instant "this type of system is plain ugly" or "too hard to program", this one is new, "move for deletion because the layout is wrong, ROFLMAO" how the hell does one justify those comments? If you click the Discuss link on most suggestion pages, no one is even interested in talking about a suggestion if it is not their own. If there's no collaborations or discussion amongst the community, what the hell is this wiki of suggestion for, and how is this suggestion pages going to help Arena Net? Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 09:25, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

We still have GW1 suggestion pages, so why not keep these? The suggestions on both are equally retarded. Misery 10:09, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
"what the hell is this wiki of suggestion for": simple, it isn't a wiki of suggestions. Both the GW1 suggestions and the GW2 suggestions don't really belong on this wiki; this is a place to document the game, not a forum for players to discuss among themselves (there are already quite a few of those). I think the main reason both pages haven't been deleted is how we are waiting for Arena Net to answer our question about it. Erasculio 10:12, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Hrm, should I bother to finish/make not so "screw all you shitters" this? I was writing it mostly for my own amusement, but Auron read it and suggested that something like this almost needs to be in the mainspace/required reading for suggestors. The whole question as to whether or not they want the section to exist is really up to Arenanet. Misery 10:18, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I cleaned it up a little for you, but I certainly think it should be required reading, even though I doubt it will help (BUTT GUISE MAI EYE DEEYAH IZ GEWD!). If you don't like it you can just switch it back. --Jette User Jette awesome.png 10:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
It's a nice read, but I doubt very much the users who need it the most would bother reading it. I can't imagine user "Plz add mudkips to GW2 kthxb!111111111111" trying to read anything bigger than two paragraphs (at most). Erasculio 10:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The Guild Wars 2 Suggestion page is not a wiki suggestion, then what is it? I've just read through 5 sub categories, suprisingly only one that could qualify for kthxb!1111111 and its not anymore! Because I corrected all the u r h4re 4 the partay!!!!!, did you even read through 1 sub category?Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 10:43, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

A "wiki suggestion"? You mean, a suggestion for the wiki? Nope, it isn't. I have read plenty of the suggestions, noticed how many of the current ones are worthless, how many of the old ones were also worthless, and how this is a wiki, not a forum. Guild Wars has many fanforums that are better suited to handling suggestions and discussions between players than the wiki is. Erasculio 10:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Who put them up for deletion is the question and for what reasons. Guild Wars 2 Suggestion Page is Guild Wars 2 Suggestion page. and I am not going into that with you. busy spell checking. and if you have read thru many of the suggestions you would not have said it is kthxb!1111111 because there are non to be honest, bad maybe, some posted on impulse maybe. although i do find it quite funny that a lot of the post starts with I find it quite cool....Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 11:06, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Reason: those ideas which were deleted were worthless, just like the great majority of those waiting to be deleted, and like many (if not most) of the suggestions that will be made. And you are right, the GW2 suggestions page is for suggestions - for now. When it's finally deleted, it won't be anything anymore ^_^ Erasculio 11:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

These are not worthless:

Users spent time writing those because they love the game, who give anyone the right to say they are worthless? From the tone of your above post your just trolling to make the suggestion page go way aren't you? Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 11:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Anyone here has all the right in the world to say those ideas are worthless. The users on the wiki need to do its maintenance, and said maintenance includes removing ideas that are bad or repeated. Who gives you the right to condemn the users who are actually trying to improve the wiki? And I don't have to troll to make the suggestions pages go away - they are likely going to be deleted regardless of what I do or I say now. Erasculio 11:28, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
Most of the suggestions are worthless pieces of shit that deserve to be deleted immediately. You are finding exceptions to the rule. (Would you like me to compile statistics for you?) That is all. Vili User talk:Vili 11:30, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Compile statistic base on what "standard", Your View or Erasculio's? And Everyone is suppose to agree to those statistic? "Throwing out the unecessary" is my suggestion by the way, I am sure you know that, and I am sure you are one of those who posted the why it may not works, and one more time: its not a repeat, and that is exactly the problem with the suggestion page, things are put up for deletion accompany with a discussion page, the poster explain how they come up with the suggestion and the reasoning behind the suggestion and users still insist that no no no, i know this suggestion its a repeat its suggesting this and this and this, problem is you don't know what the poster think, and they offer explanations but do people listen? If you claim you have read through a lot of the suggestions, then tell me this, you repeat suggestion culling hand, why are there still abundant of repeated suggestions? Some are exactly the same, some are in the same light as the one that I made, which contains no similarity but seems the same? You have answer to that? Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 11:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I understand someone is in need of the services of a wiki troll, am I correct? Misery 12:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I understand that English is not your first language, and I don't mean to sound condescending in any way, but frankly I am having trouble understanding what you are saying. :\
I share the same views as Erasculio about the suggestions pages, so I am not sure where you are going there. I merely meant to suggest that if I was so inclined, I could read every GW2 suggestion and compile statistics of which are "good" and which are "bad". "Bad" suggestions, by my standard, would be those which are simply impossible to redeem, or are just plain horrible suggestions for GW2 such as "plz add mini mudkip" or "lets have guns".
I have not read your suggestion/am not aware of it; I was merely commenting on this particular discussion. I generally stay away from the discussion pages because so many of them are failures or will be deleted anyway; the only time I sometimes read them are if I see new ones being created in the Recent Changes, or I see one with an..."interesting"
It is true that there are a lot of repeat suggestions. They do not get automatically deleted because there are no admins who take care of that section. They don't patrol it to find all the duplicates and delete them; they just have better things to do. Moreover, because it seems fairly likely that the whole suggestions pages will be deleted outright, it is seen as a futile action. Finally, when a duplicate suggestion is deleted, it is usually (but not always) done so with a summary stating which suggestion it is a duplicate of. Naturally this depends on the admin who deleted it, and you are free to question any of them about any particular deletion. Vili User talk:Vili 12:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Vili, you sound like a fair enough person, I didn't meant you, I meant Erasculio, they says there are lots of "Plz add mudkips to GW2 kthxb!111111111111" < that type of suggestions on the suggestion page. I've by now gone through almost 6 sub categories in the suggestions page and there's only one such page. So I am asking did they even read through it or merely saying it, like the following, catch this, under the why this may not be a good idea: Too many idea is not a good idea (something along that)commented in at least 3 suggestions. How do you expect anyone to take that seriously, a comment like that, on a 3 paragraphs suggestions. And the case regarding my suggestion was, I've explain that the ideas is to take out unnecessary/ items (unnecessary items such as books, lockpick, summoning stones, luxon totem, kournan coins, quests item) from the players inventory, so what do you get, a clear inventory, but did I say Add more storage at all? No, I started thinking that it could be implemented because if items were taken out, it would ease up the server activities. But do users listen, no they want to put words in my suggestion and say i want to throw away item from the storage = asking for extra storage there's no extra involve at all. That's what make me confuse why Wiki let users like that run amok? That's why I stumble upon this question, Should I even bother?Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 12:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

If you are not willing to have your contributions edited by other users, subjected to the judgment of the community and possibly deleted by consensus, then it's likely that no, you shouldn't bother adding your suggestions to the GW2 suggestions page. Or, as it is writen in the "Please note" section of our edit pages, "If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly or redistributed by others, do not submit it". Erasculio 13:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
It would appear, based on the discussion here that all but the personal idea pages that are maintained in userspace are going to be removed from the ArenaNet namespace. Those of you interested should add your comments. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 12:38, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully after all the old suggestions are deleted, it can be better maintained to ensure something like this dump doesn't happen again. I have seen several great original suggestions, but they are completely flooded with trolling, stupid suggestions that would destroy the core values of GW, and suggestions with no content whatsoever...How are we gonna maintain this area to ensure ppl get their right to speak their mind without cluttering it with nothing but flame posts?--Malchior Devenholm 16:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

spell/enchantment creator

i think it would be quite good to have a spell/enchantment maker like in oblivion (elder scrolls 6 or 5 (i cant remember)) where you select a spell or more (you can combine spells) and edit it with simple sliders such as area effect max damage min damage mana consumption special effect etc.... raising these sliders (or lowering with mana cost) costs some sort of magical money system once completed you save your spell/enchantment and you can use it. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Benjabby (talk • contribs) at 10:30, January 17, 2009 (UTC).

If you do allow players to fiddle around with damage or energy costs its only "ok" if changes are marginal but then it removes the point in changing the skills in the first place. Biz 17:32, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

GuildWars 2 on Macintosh Computers

I know that almost all gamers do their gaming on a PC, even when given the choice to play on a Mac like World of Warcraft. However, the numbers are growing with Mac players because, put simply, more people are getting Macs. Numbers are growing strong and as much as the market as PCs still hold, their is no doubt Macs are getting their space in the computer world. And lets face it, there are Mac users out there that do want to play games and I wouldn't be afraid to say that about 5 percent of of WoW players are playing on Macs and at least 20 percent are playing on a Mac and a PC depending on where they are or what they have access to. and I know what else you are thinking... "games run HORRIBLY on Macs".... well, your wrong. When designed right, like Blizzard has done, the games run smoother, cleaner, and faster then they do on PCs, even with lower specs. WoW runs great on my Dell XPS 720 with NVIDIA 8800 graphics, and run even better on my 13" MacBook, both computers having 4 GB of ram. and finally, it would make life easier for GW players that would rather use their Mac then their PC. I barely EVER use my PC anymore, only to get on GuildWars and, well, thats about it.

I know GuildWars (1) can't be formatted for a Mac because it's nearly impossible to do with such a far developed game. But with GW2, you could easily make it compatible with Macs because you are reworking much of the game! You'll have a larger market because their are few games playable on Macs and GW2 would be added to the list, users that have Macs and PCs that only get on their PC to play GW2 will be playing GW2 more because they don't have to spend time getting things started up, and finally, Mac users are growing, and growing fast! the market is rising and gaining a huge part in the computer market and GW2 could be the game that the growing market is playing.

Thanks and have a great day.

I my self ABSOLUTELY HATE MACS AND DON'T WANT TO ENDORSE THEM but i think that is a very good idea! 01:43, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

From what I hear some versions of Mac OS and Linux can run Windows version of GuildWars1 just fine, if not without problems altogether. There are clear advantages of having the game officially supported only on one type of OS (Windows). For instance you can and will optimize it for that particular system, you do not need to worry about compatibility issues nor do you need to spend time and money on porting windows versions/patches, or dropping features that wouldn't work on both systems. I do not see as clear advantage in making it for Macs. Even if Macs are some 10% of all computers in US, this doesn't mean that 10% of gamer population own or play on a Macs. Not to mention that vast majority of those are downclocked notebooks that aren't made for gaming, despite having 4gigs of ram. Biz 11:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Macs do have worse specs than PCs, and therefore games have to be downgraded, however slightly to work on them. Other than that, I agree with you, since it's a reasonable suggestion, and would give A-net a slightly larger playerbase. However,I really don't like Macs, so I hope I never here their name again on this wiki. Have a good day! :)-- 03:41, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

How do I create a suggestion?

Okay, I know it sounds "noobish" but... how do I exactly put in a suggestion? I have an idea for PvE but, should I like use edit? I mean, should I put my suggestion in someone else's page or just create a new one? I don't want to just create a page and then suddenly it gets deleted... A little help would be good. :) --Warnlord 01:45, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Create a page in your userspace User:Warnlord/GW Suggestions and write up your suggestion. Add the category tag [[Category:Guild Wars suggestions]] to the bottom of it to add it to the list of suggestions. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 01:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Umm... Its for GW2, but i get that, when you say add to list of suggestions, what do you mean exactly? So you're saying, going to my userpage, write up my suggestion (whether it's for OGW or GW2), and add [[Category:Guild Wars suggestions]] at the bottom of page. Okay, makes sense, but what do you add the tag and how. --Warnlord 01:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Eh ehm... I meant how do i add the tag. Oh and btw, since it's for gw2, would the tag be different? --Warnlord 01:59, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
Just change the tag to this:[[Category:Guild Wars 2 suggestions]]. It'll show up here, [1]. You can also add your idea to the list here as well. (Terra Xin 00:48, 2 April 2009 (UTC))