Talk:Fortress of Jahai

Explorable area, town or dungeon...

When i stick my character to the door the nearest of the Fortress of Jahai from Yatendi Canyons and move the camera in first person, i can see though the door that there is a portal behind... Is it from the beta or is it just an abandoned idea from devs? PS: is there at least someone that know it? ^_^;; --RAd1cAl_EdwArd 00:24, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I've seen the portal. It might have been intended to be a primary quest point like the Bokka Amphitheatre, a real shame we never get to go inside. Sounds Risky | 00:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it was just an abandoned idea. — ク Eloc 貢 01:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Are we sure that Jahai is the capitol of Kourna? From the story line of Nightfall it seems that Gadara would be.--Will Greyhawk 03:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Agreed. The fortress seems just that, a fortress. Gandara seems to be more established as a city. It would be interesting to see the source of the claim to being capital LynxRavenRaide 10:40, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

It's where the Battle of Jahai between Ossa and Joko happened.--Wingsy 11:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Slightly North of there.Actualy.--Neil2250 The Render Nazi 12:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Either way, tis important!--Wingsy 13:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is an important spot, but that doesn't support the claim for capital. LynxRavenRaide 21:36, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree I can't find anything to support the claim Jahai = capital or koruna.--Lania Elderfire 21:39, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Only because the player doesn't go into Jahai (such as they do in Gandara).--Wingsy 22:30, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah yeah you can. Barring the inner part of the building (like the other fortress on the Jahai map), you can walk in and around most of what would be within the walls of the fortress. Really, I think the capital reference should be removed until such point it is proven. LynxRavenRaide 22:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

(reset indents) So now the question becomes, what is the capital of Koruna? --Lania Elderfire 22:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Kourna* -- Arduin 22:44, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Not to be a pain but i still think it's the capital. The timeline does mention the specific building of the fortress by the grand cataract, if its in the timeline it must be important - theres no mention of Gandara for instance, as well as the fact that we know its where Turai Ossa defeated Joko (with his body trapped relatively close by). Also as this it's described as being the most fortified fortress in Kourna, with many people living under its shadow for protection - a clear trait for a capital city. --Wingsy 23:22, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Just because it has the characteristics of a capital doesn't mean that it is. You can say that it's a suspected capital but just by characteristics you can say that NYC is a suspected capital of the united states based on highest population and it having one of the most fortified security in the Usa but we know that isn't true. --Lania Elderfire 23:33, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

There is no mention of when Rin and Drascir were built in the time line, yet we know both were capitals of Ascalon before their respective destruction. Same goes for Kaineng City. Surmia and Nolani are mentioned, but neither were capitals. Also, going by your logic, Gandara has as much claim, if not more, to being capital since it is a massive fortified city, and also has obvious signs of meeting places, such as the Plaza of the 5 Gods LynxRavenRaide 01:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Also the line "Jahai is the fortified capital city of Kourna." has been there since the creation of the page, it must've come from somewhere--Wingsy 11:52, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

The only thing that means is that it has taken this long for it to be disputed, that's all. It could have been an assumption by the creator, but there is no concrete proof to back it up LynxRavenRaide 20:10, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe one of the guildwars novels that come out will clarify this for us :-) --Lania Elderfire 23:29, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, but I have a feeling they will focus on Tyria more than the other continents. Would be good to see mention beyond Tyria though LynxRavenRaide 23:40, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Explorable?

Is it possible to enter the Fortress of Jahai? From both sides the door appears to be shut tight. - Brian Kendig 02:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Never mind - from the discussion above, I'm guessing it isn't enterable. I'll point this out in the article. - Brian Kendig 02:56, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Heeey

Something just occurred to me. You know how in War in Kryta they added the Lion's Arch Keep? Maybe this will end up being something similar … People already mentioned being able to see the inside of it above. – NuclearDuckie 01:49, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I think the area already exists, actually. When you head to the fortress from Yatendi Canyons, you can see a blocked off zone portal going into the fort. -- Konig/talk 01:51, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm hopeful we'll get to see the inside of it. – NuclearDuckie 11:55, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

map name

Why,if it's a landmark,does it have a name on the wold map?

75.36.144.187 00:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Nightfall is unique - some landmarks have names on the map - like Halls of Chokhin, and Citadel of Dzagon. -- Konig/talk 01:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

This should be flagged as a stup

Since it contains no useful information, like what outposts its closest too. Ramei Arashi 17:58, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

And other landmarks contain that information? It's not an explorable area, it only needs to show its location and the lore about it, sometimes when helpful the NPCs too, but that's fairly rare for all landmark articles. Konig/talk 20:30, 19 August 2012 (UTC)