Talk:Mursaat/archive 1

See: Talk:Summon Mursaat#No Spectral Agony, third comment down. - HeWhoIsPale 14:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

i found my arguments better. lussh 14:11, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I have statements from ANet employees more convincing evidence myself. - HeWhoIsPale 14:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm basing my results from the in game tests, descriptions and results, not from user talks. if i should keep onlt one argument, i would say that the desciption of the skill is not "summon a polymorphic piece that look like a mursaat" but "summon a mursaat" lussh 14:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Te summoned mursaat don't have the name "polymock mursaat", it don't use Spectral agony indeed, but it don't use either Polymock Lightning Strike, Polymock Mind Shock or Polymock Shock Arrow

it use Enervating Charge wich is a real pve skill atributed to a real atribute wich varies from level, nothing alike polymock . lussh 14:18, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If I was going to base everything on one in-game relevant argument, I would say that there aren't nearly enough Mursaat left after the genocide that was the end of the prophecies campaign to be summoning and killing them all the time like that. If I were to have two arguments, I would point out that the animating of a polymock piece would also explain the reduced skill set of each Summon compared to the actual critter. - HeWhoIsPale 14:21, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I would also note that mursaats elementalists ( same name as the summon, strange coincidence) uses also enervating charge, it's clother than your polymock mursaat who don't ! lussh 14:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

And the time line is quite weak in this game, wa can go kill the lich after abaddon, so there's no point for your first argument. FOr you'r second i would only say that i don't care about animating, all summoned creatures, spirit or undead have no more than one skill, there's no exceptions for the mursaat or jinn, they just are the only summons with a real Elementalist skill ( not a polymock one ) lussh 14:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I agree the mursaat summoned is not a real mursaat, but i disagree to say it is a polymock piece summon. I think i sayed "seems to be a mursaat but is not because . . ." So it's a false mursaat, i'm according that point, but nothing to do with polymock. lussh 14:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Well we clearly aren't going to agree on this issue. Though I maintain that someone from ANet says it's an animated Polymock piece, so it probably damn well is one. - HeWhoIsPale 14:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I made a last modification, i hope you'd like it, otherwise do what you want. lussh 14:37, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Followers of Abadonn?

Since they make their Jade constructs like Margonites, which are resemblence of Abaddon, maybe they are his followers too? They too are followed by a group of people (like Varesh in Guild Wars Nightfall), and they wish to do the "bad guy" schene of controling and enslaving humans without they knowledge about it and then a hero (us... weee) comes and saves the day. So maybe they are also followers of Abaddon? Just another theory on a talk page though :) 89.138.124.25 08:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Don't think so since they wanted to destroy the titans before the titans destroys them, and those were the followers of Abaddon. To discovere something else about the Mursaat, we have to wait for GW2. --MageMontu 08:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm... good point 89.138.124.25 09:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

It's pretty clear that the Mursaat are aligned with neither Abaddon nor The Five. They are their own "side" and seem to care about nothing but their own interests. Arshay Duskbrow 12:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't side that. They DO lock down the Titan's, that made them trouble, but still; in that action they also stopped the Titan's from taking over the world (muhaha). And also, for MageMontu, check the second note on Lightbringer; Titan's are not demonic servents of Abaddon, so the Mursaats can be sided with Abaddon, even if not realy been thinken of, to take care of Tyria's part. And after you destroy their plans in Porphecies, the Sunspears in Tyria quest explains the Demon invasion; they want to finish the job the Mursaat well... didn't finish. 89.139.235.214 12:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Mursaat are gods of Wkite Mantle. They tried to rule over Tyria but let the mankind live to serve them. At the end however, they were the good ones, coz they tried to stop the player from opening Door of Khomalie and thus destroying Tyria. No connections to Abaddon IMO. 83.20.107.235 14:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Ironic that in the end, we were the ones causing destruction :( Lavuly 04:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I would say that the Titans are somehow related to the Destroyers, and that they, together with the Seer race, Mursaat, and the Old Dragons are part of some creations spawned by a previous pantheon of gods. I read somewhere that The Five found the world, they didn't create it, and then moved to another place in The Mists. Large 05:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

mursaat are good(there protection of tyria says they r nto afiliated wit habbadon, and we were just the vizers pawns99.182.83.171 20:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)lord randy

Not evil?

The The Flameseeker Prophecies entry 17 says: "I learned that the door held back the evil titans and the Mursaat were actually attempting to protect the world from their wrath". Does this mean that they are actually the good guys? 145.94.74.23 12:25, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Ambiguity. Welcome to it. Misery 12:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I hope they don't answer this question in GW2. Not because it's more interesting left unanswered, but because they will fuck it up and make it seem totally stupid. --Jette 02:31, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

i think neutral, they did what was best(we were unwitting pawns) and the titans were evil so technicly there neutral motive was right to protect tyria method was a little off--99.182.83.171 20:27, 24 February 2009 (UTC)lord randy

Well i think they kept the Door of Komalie shut to avoid their own destruction, not to protect tyria. They use the humans for their own purposes without caring about the humans, so i wouldnt exactly call them protectors of tyria -- C4K3 Talk 19:22, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

However had they let it get opend Tyria would also be destroyed--Lord randy taylor 21:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Its simple, they closed the door to prevent themselves from dying, the fact that the gate opening would also have destroyed mankind was just a side effect to them. --173.48.123.225 20:05, 11 October 2009 (UTC)