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Welcome, Martin!

Everyone head over to Martin Kerstein's talk page to welcome him to ArenaNet! See the news post for more details. =) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Regina Buenaobra (talk • contribs) at 17:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC).

welcome? He's worked at anet for AGES. I'm not really sure of how to send a nice "happy you werent made redundant!" message. Do't ge me wrong, hes a great guy and I'm over the moon for him, just welcoming him to anet may be adding insult to injury for him. -- Salome 21:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I see it more as a happy welcome message, I rather liked it - my first personal newspost *sniff* ^^--Martin Kerstein (talk) 23:15, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

To ArenaNet = to their Bellevue HQ. -- Brains12 \ talk 21:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

He worked for NCSoft and was stationed somewhere in Europe wasn't he? — Jon Lupen 21:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

NcSoft Brighton, apparently. (And I suppose ArenaNet = ArenaNet; forgot that he worked at NcSoft :P) -- Brains12 \ talk 21:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused. Wasn't he with Guild Wars already? [confused] 000.00.00.00 02:13, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Das ist gut, nicht wahr? Now all that is left is someone for the Spanish speakers. MithTalk 14:18, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

I met Martin at the London Community Day 2009 (cosy meeting :) and he's a great guy, very happy that we can still have him, or that he has us ;) Fril Estelin 00:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Blade Radio Dj's Muted during Birthday Party

Apparently, one or two of the Blade Radio DJ's were kicked off guild wars because either you or Martin said they were being "abusive" in local chat... But they really weren't. Are you people really that kick happy when they say something vaguely questionable? This is during Blade Radio's alleged "epic night", too, during the birthday parties.-- anguard 00:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Disregard, it was fixed. But Martin still said he muted someone and then later said he didn't. I still call bullshit.-- anguard 00:50, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

huh? 000.00.00.00 01:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

You wouldn't know. Move along.-- anguard 01:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

If he knew, he wouldn't be asking... Ghosst • Talk • 01:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Well it's really irrelevant to those who weren't in-game when it happened, now is it?-- anguard 01:17, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

oic, we cover stuff up ... cool. I'll keep that in mind. Ghosst • Talk • 01:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

@Vanguard: We are all (well, atleast a good number of us) guilty of memory lapses. — Jon Lupen 01:19, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It was 10 minutes. Anyway, I'll check replies tomorrow. Gotta sleep.-- anguard 01:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

*Shrugs* Just a possibility. I've forgotten things within minutes before. Think what you like. — Jon Lupen 01:27, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Gee, I thought I was told that the GMs can't use their positions to benefit themselves, use their status as a Gm to benefit some one else, use their in game admin powers to their advantage nor can they profit from it, but, Hey no one knows they are Gms right? Its all done in secret these guys don't let on that they work for anet at all. Nice try, reason those responsible are quiet is because they know they are wrong, morally, ethically and contractually. SardethWynn 05:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

No need for the hostility, Vanguard, he was just asking a question. calor (talk) 02:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Issue with opening your mouth and not finishing is it leads to misinformation, also you came in with hearsay. Secondly, you claim Martin went against what he said, of course since you've brought this into the public eye you have screenshots to back up your statement, yes? Of course you do. Also, if you're going to put something out for the public to see instead of say emailing the person(s) in question directly then you leave yourself open for people to ask for clarification of what you just touted, especially if it's a matter of interest to him/her, perhaps in future might I suggest you use the "Email this user" function if you don't want people to ask. What you consider irrelevant might not be the case, you came in with the situation that apparently Arenanet staff 'muted' or 'kicked' Blade Radio DJs which is an interesting situation considering this is generally handled through the Support crew not the Community Managers. Actually, you came in with an assumption and then a reaction based on it, which is interesting. Following this you introduced a secondary claim about Martin after you 'disregarded' your comment. Again, opening your mouth: perhaps it might be better that if you have an issue with Martin's responses you could comment directly to him via his talk page or emailing directly, perhaps? For your convenience it can be found here. One might not want to come out with accusation and misinformation as one might come against as a little shortsighted and foolish. You understand, of course. 000.00.00.00 02:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

you know, just for once you guys could let them defend themselves -FireFox 03:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

When your liked and favored enough, there is usually a group of people that will willingly fight your battles for you. Zero has a fine point as well. — Jon Lupen 03:23, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Firefox, I'm not defending anyone; I don't know where that assumption came from on your part. 000.00.00.00 03:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

He said "you guys," emphasis on the guys, being plural and refering to more than one person here. — Jon Lupen 03:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I am aware, Jon, yet my comment still stands. 000.00.00.00 03:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

No it doesn't, clearly you are going all out to disprove OP. If you are disproving OP, then clearly you are basically defending whoever the implicated party(ies) here, whether you wish to pretend you are or not. Of course, you understand simple logic, so I prefer not to elaborate.Pika Fan 05:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

You know, I think Vanguard was just trying to defend Blade Radio. However, the people of Blade Radio have dealt with this matter. Being one of the people that was randomly muted, I think everyone should just relax, things happen and I DID contact Martin, not on a wiki ...just wanted to make that clear :) -RoflMonkRofl 05:11, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I got muted to, needless to say Regina kindly sorted it within a minute or two. Frozenwind 05:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I was also Muted as soon as it was Brought to Martin, and Regina's attention Barbie, Opal, Daniel, and myself were promptly unmuted. There was a lot of Chat in the district. So guys it comes down to it was a misunderstanding. It's Taken care of. End of Story. Any Question about this? Feel Free to e-mail or pm me in game - Kelli 09:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Its just another case of abuse of power, GMs working for a ingame radio station, " Can you say conflict of interest" --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:SardethWynn (talk).

Pika Fan; Nice. The rest of you; Kelli summed it up, that's why I crossed my crap out.-- anguard 13:51, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I Agree, it's done, its over and besides, it was a great event all the way around. It was a misunderstanding build a bridge and get over it - Wolfie 15:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

I've already spoken with Daniel about this, and we're cool. It was a misunderstanding that went down with the chaos in the district with two radio shows going on at the same time. Some people were inadvertently muted who shouldn't have been, and I take responsibility for that. Blame me for misreading who typed what in local. We had a pleasant conversation about the situation and I apologized to him and his staff. I understand that emotions run high when you run a live show, so I understand you're all angry about this. But as far as I understand by what Daniel and I've talked about, everything is cool now. :-) --Regina Buenaobra 16:41, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Still doesnt change the fact though "GMs working FOR and Djing FOR in game radio stations is a conflict of interest, THEIR job is to keep the game running smoothly" if the want to DJ they should stop being GMs. If I am the only one that sees it this way I guess NCSOFT isn't really looking into this issue close enough, and that also goes for Community PRs. I guess this is why a lot of us only log in now during events now and leave this game alone the rest of the time. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:SardethWynn (talk).

lol, they don't "work" for them and all they did was play some music during their time on there. Get over yourself. DarkNecrid 19:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

It's really archaic for a piece of software such as a wiki to have no clear way to PRIVATELY MESSAGE someone. I can't believe this is the platform of one of the largest deposits of data on the 'net. -_____- Vael Victus 23:54, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Odd that I should be told to get over myself when this site claims that GMs are active Djs for this station and don't worry I already screen shot the site and sent it to NcSoft, oddly tho its no longer listed but I also sent the source code there too, so I may have to get over myself, but some should really think before they start sticking there feet in their mouths. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:SardethWynn (talk).

They go on the air occasionally. Why would NCsoft care? They're there to help out a fan event. There's no conflict of interest and it happens in several other online games. They're there to help keep the peace and have a little bit of fun. They've only showed up as DJs for certain fan events and are not official DJs for the "station". DarkNecrid 02:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Doing an interview is one thing, being a Dj is another, being listed on the website as a Dj is another. If one chooses to be a Gm and gets hired to be a Gm that is their choice, but if one uses their Gm status to pull listeners in that is an abuse of their Gm position and should be grounds for immediate termination. Regina and Martin are listed as Djs for sanitarium Now tell me this isnt wrong. Listed as Djs but as you said, They've only showed up as DJs for certain fan events and are not official DJs for the "station".--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:SardethWynn (talk).

Was this picture taken during said event? — Jon Lupen 02:41, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

GUYS, MISTAKES HAPPEN WE ARE ALL HUMAN, I SPOKE WITH REGINA, DANIEL SPOKE WITH REGINA, KELLY WAS ON AIR WITH REGINA ITS OVER LET IT GO EEEESH BTW Lindsey, Regina et al staff TAG YOUR IT :P - Wolfie 02:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Who gives a shit about blade radio anyway, their DJs play complete crap. I'll stick to my digitally imported, thx.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:82.34.128.19 (talk).

For the love of Pete, people use :'s and sign comments please >:| 000.00.00.00 02:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Wolfie, I'm on your side. Fending off the last few stragglers that won't give up the fight is all. — Jon Lupen 02:50, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:BWh1N5eY1LYJ:sanitarium.fm/index.php%3Fp%3Ddjs+sanitarium.fm+dj&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a From Apr 20, 2009 08:20:47 GMT to the 28th this was visible SardethWynn 02:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong Wolfie, but wouldn't said guests get DJ privilages and powers, automatically adding them to the list, or perhaps they were added so people would know they're on and making an appearance? — Jon Lupen 02:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks Guys I'm on air all the Time, This is the first time it has happened. As explained above It's been handled. We are a community....- Kelli 02:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Jon that is coded. It doesnt just say who is "On Air". They were manually entered when the page was built. Drogo Boffin 02:58, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Zero, the person who posted above you was: 82.34.128.19. He has been going out of his way to cause problems. He tried to be very rude to me on my talk page and to Rikku on his talk page and such. I think I know who it is, but that is beside the point. Now, as Wolfie has stated, people make mistakes, so can we please let all of this go. Its done and over and has already been handled. Not to mention the involved parties already spoke about the situation. As Kelli already stated above, it was a misunderstanding and we were all just trying to have fun and things happened really fast. So now that its done, over and in the past...can we all work together as a community and plan the next event? ^_^ - Tesla 03:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jon, thats actually up to the individual station how they do it or promote it, some opt to empower the guest dj's while others attempt to make it easy and simple ::shrugs:: I guess there's no real wrong way but anyways I dont want to post here more as this space should be used for Regina to answer questions... Anyways Back Out and to the folks at Sanit FM, The Blade Staff, A Net staff and the Community at Large Great Event all the way around :D- Wolfie 03:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Understood Wolfie, Tesla and Kelli. Crap just happens, but people like their conspiracy theories and the like... Anyway, I need rest, and this needs to be given a rest. A fairwell to all and to all a good night. — Jon Lupen 03:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I like to eat with both hands holding utensils. Oh wait! You all are talking about something totally different and pointless, seeing as how everyone is over-reacting just a tad, my bad. :D --Master Saji 03:06, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

If it was a conspiracy there wouldn't be this much proof to indicate otherwise, but then again I only know what I see and find out on my own, IE: if the gun is smoking, odds are its been fired. SardethWynn 03:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You want a conspiracy Ive got one for you. The only reason that the University of North Carolina are the National Champions is because the President picked them to win and the Government cant let him be wrong. Drogo Boffin 03:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Sardeth, in this case you're imagining the gun. Even if they weren't "DJs" (which they aren't anyways, just for fan events), they'd still be pulling in visitors by going on the air. Which is fine and not anything bad at all. Unless if you think it's horrible that Mike O'Brien was interviewed on a fan made free magazine distributed across the Internet which is pulling in more views for them from Guild Wars fans too? Regina's job includes GM powers but she's first and foremost a Community Relations who is supposed to (among other things) be close to the community and that includes that they sometimes take part in Community events. You're blowing this out of proporation Sardeth. DarkNecrid 03:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

First to Jon: You have part of it, and 4 or more member of the involved party, that know the whole story, are telling you differently. Your not going anywhere with this. Please, drop it and give it a rest. — Jon Lupen 03:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC) If you have something to say post it where it belongs, To DarkNecrid on one point your correct that is "Being involved" the rest is utter tripe "Mike O'Bien" was interviewed, but Regina and Martin were listed as staff. Big difference there, you can argue with semantics all you like, say green is red and red is green for all I care "Your still going to cross the street accordingly or get hit by a bus" Unlike some I do not open my mouth without all the facts, Why do you think it took me this long to comment while others are merely responding from the hip or side of their neck. The evidence provided and the hush job to cover it up is in itself the smoking gun. Since you fail to see that its up to those that can dig before they open their mouths to drag things like this into plain sight. If you live with blinders on your just a mule pulling a cart, if you are okay living that way its your choice me, I perfer to drive the cart. SardethWynn 03:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Please show me where NCSoft says you're not allowed to be listed as staff for anything as long as you're a GM? (although GMs inside the game are Anet employees and follow Anet rules so hey!) DarkNecrid 03:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually it is listed in the Anet Contract, A. Gms are not supposed to use their Admin status to benefit themselves B. Admins are not to call attention to benefit an outside organization or individual, bah you read the manual, as for me I am just I am tired of all this point here and tell me where is says_____. How about doing a little research on your own rather then saying whats allowed and whats not and telling me to give you the answers. Short and sweet its a violation of their contract with Anet. As for me I am off to bed SardethWynn 05:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

• sigh* Ok, let me try to explain to you what a Community Manager is actually doing, ok? First of all: We are not GM's (Gamemaster), but CM's (Community Manager). Part of that job is to promote and participate in community events. That is the nature of the job. So if we get approached by members of the community if we can help them with their events, we check it and help whenever possible.I am sorry to say this, but your accusations come from being ill-informed and not understanding the nature of our job at all. According to your "claim", we would no longer be able to write community news, participate on the wiki and on the boards or attend real life player meets - because all of this is organised by an "outside organisation or individual". --Martin Kerstein (talk) 22:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

And you read the employment contract for NCSoft and/or ArenaNet where? --★KOKUOU★ 05:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

lol. Way to make stuff up Sardeth. The "admins" as they were call attention to other people all the time that benefits them by putting links to community events on the Guild Wars webpage since the game has been created, The Scribe named tons of people who did nice stuff in-game that would be calling attention to benefit an outside individual, etc etc etc, I like how you wait until just now to get annoyed by it when it isn't even something that bad. You're silly. DarkNecrid 10:26, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

People these days, A-net staff actually try and intergrate with the players and all some people can do is moan about it. I remember not so long ago everyone was up in arms because GM's never came in-game and appeared distant from the community.At Sardeth drop it already,what you state is rather funny, please tell me how GM's giving up there own time for a fan based organization of the game they work for is benefiting themselves. Frozenwind 11:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

SardethWynn: Martin and I were guests at Sanitarum.fm. As part of participating in their GW anniversary celebration, we were given access to certain forums on that site so that we could see technical information about running and installing the DJ software. As far as I understand, the way that Lonesamurai could give us access to that info was to put us in a certain forum category, "Active DJs". It's an organizational tool on Sanitarium.fm's site.

Secondly, as Martin noted, we are Community Managers. Not GMs/Game Masters. We participate in fan-run, community events. This means that yes, sometimes we mention the names of other sites. Like fansites. Like guild sites. Like alliance sites. Like sites such as Sanitarium.fm and Blade Radio. --Regina Buenaobra 22:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey all last note here from me atleast, I felt it important to note that Sardeth is no longer with Blade nor has he been with the station for sometime. Any feelings/thoughts he expresses are not those of the station in any way shape or form. Sardeth I urge you to just let it go. Regina and Martin thanks for the great time the other night- Wolfie 22:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Okay Wolfie, I will stop posting here on this issue even though they are in the wrong and they know it SardethWynn 22:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Luxon Independence Day

Hello ! I invite you and the english community to participate at the Luxon Independence Day to be held the 26 July at Cavalon. This festival is organized by the holders of cavalon, Horizon Wow and his covenant. I hope to see your and I hope you will enjoy. --Anvar Le Barbare 13:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

What happend to the kurzick independance day??--Simpaklimp 11:08, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Kurzicks are mobs, they have no independence. LOL, JUST KIDDING — Mar Master 11:43, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Meh, Luxons... Kurzicks... are all the same. When is the 'Dragon Empire crushes any opposition and unites the land' day? MithTalk 14:45, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

My alliance control cavalon what is practical to make fireworks so I think its cool to make a feast Luxon (I love luxons !^^). For an Kurzik Independence Day, it would be best to talk to those who control House Zu Heltzer.--Anvar Le Barbare 17:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Event

Woooo congrats on event,it was fantastic!!! Thank you for all you done ANet and for being with your players always. The best team ever,rock on! :) Black Metalll 10:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)