User talk:Salome/April 08 - May 08

This is an archive of past discussions. Please do not edit this page. If you wish to leave me a message, do so on my talk page.

Welcome!

Hi! (Belated) Welcome to the wiki! :P -- ab.er.rant 05:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL, thanks aberrant you wee ! -- Salome 05:43, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Saying hi to you too :) Lost-Blue 05:44, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm feeling all loved! -- Salome 05:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Quick, roll out the welcome template! er.. wait. Anyway, hi there. - THARKUN 05:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks guys, i'm all distracted as just found j.kougars talk page again. e-drama aplenty today it seems. Makes for riveting, all be it frustrating and annoying reading -- Salome 06:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Woo, super belated welcome. — ク Eloc 貢 00:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Armor art debate

Heya, I just wanted you to know that I only added the remark about my friends/guildies comments to demonstrate that they had a strongly negative reaction to the way the pages looked when they have been out shopping for new armor. It wasn't intended as any sort of troll comment, they are not involved in the wiki editing or community, they are just viewers, and players of the game, but they know I AM involved which is why they brought their comments to me. Believe me, I know what it's like to get invested in a project here and then have someone strongly dislike it, I'm getting better at dealing with it. Again, just so you know, I think your galleries are great, I just don't like having all of them on one page..... and I do feel strongly that by eliminating in game screenshots you lose a lot of the actual feel of what the character is going to look like in the armor, the renders all tend to be rather sterile. Again Salome, nothing personal intended, by either me or my reference to my guildies comments, I think you do great work :D -- Wynthyst 09:27, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

On another note....

I've been a practicing Wiccan for many years, with much your same outlook.-- Wynthyst 13:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Arb page quote

"and the fact that I'm no longer sure that Aiiane is truly capable to put aside her dislike of people in carrying out her role as an admin, which I think raises some pretty serious questions about her position here." - Please, do elaborate. If you think that I've been deficient in my duties, I'd rather hear the details outright so that I can attempt to address them than to skirt around the issue. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 11:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Aiiane we all make mistakes and I know how annoying Kougar can be, but you saying he was "Pathetic" or even that his antics were pathetic, when that was one of the comments he made, which was cited for his ban, has just exacebated this entire situation and you must be able to see that. As it does scream double standards, he says it and its a ban, you say it and no one says anything. I don't agree with anything hes arguing but I do think that you have not been at your best on this one and your actions have just added fuel to the fire and gave his baseless claims more weight. In the time I've spent on gwonline and GWW, I have come to know you as fair and normally well considered admin, however you've handled this instance very poorly and I think it does raise some questions about your ability to cope with really 'difficult' users that you clearly have a strong dislike for. I'm assuming you dislike Kougar as Ive never seen you break your professionalism befor,e so its the only reason i can think of for you to do so now, either that or you were just having a really bad day. Although I would never argue that you are unfit for the role of being an admin, I still think that you yourself should be considering your actions in regards to kougar and asking yourself some questions about your position and if you think you can handle people like him in the future without committing some of the same supposed NPA's that they have commited and thus making the issue worse. I do not think that we as a community should be questioning you on your position here as your track record on this site is amazing but i don't think that it's wrong to state that you should be questioning yourself and deciding if you think you acted in the best interests of the wiki with your comments. Regards -- Salome 12:17, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Before I checked back and saw your response here, I wrote this. Perhaps it will help explain some of my thoughts with regards to the situation. I admit that the precise word choice was a poor one, given the circumstances (which, unfortunately, I was only aware of that particular wording of the previous comment after I had made my own remark), however I do think that the actual intended meaning was justified given the circumstances. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 12:35, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you Aiine, I really do. I have read your post on the other page and I also agree with your reasoning (even though to a degree calling someones actions childish and pathetic is in essence calling the person childish and pathetic, as we are all judged by our actions). Since your message on my talk page I have sat and thought what I would have done in your situation and I could only come to the conclusion that I would have handled it terribly and flew off the handle at him, which you didn't do, So I admire you for your ability to handle the situation better than I could. However I'm not a bureaucrat and you are, thus small things you say, which would be overlooked by other users, are read into much more if you say them. I don't think what you said is an NPA and i do think what Kougar said was. However I also think that your choice of words was a bad one and has made this issue worse than it already was, but then you acknowledge that and as I said before we all make mistakes. I think that your post on the other page will be extremely helpful and needed to be said, as for the casual wiki user, reading that page, it clarifies alot of points and takes out of the debate, victimization which I think was a corner stone of his commentary. I stand by what I said both here on the other page as I think in essence I'm right but aside from that Aiiane, I would just like to say I do respect you alot as an admin, Ive been on the right and wrong side of you before on gwonline and you always showed yourself to be a fair and just individual and I hope my commentary on the other page and this one doesn't change your oppinion of me. (well unless that oppinion is that i'm a dick. jk jk jk) ;) -- Salome 12:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

The only people who are dicks are those who repeat "jk" too much. Oh, whoops. (jk.... jk jk jk ;) (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 13:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

ROFL XD -- Salome 13:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the culture poll

You are right, that one was badly placed, it looked to much like flame bait there. However, I feel that at least part of the long discussion stems from the fact that some people perceived J.Kougar's posts as NOT an NPA offense, while some others perceived both his and Aiiane's actions as NPA offenses. I want to go out of this whole situation with a clear "don't use pathetic while refering to someone" or "it is ok to use pathetic". NPA one of the most frequently cited policies around here, but has always been very lightly defined. People having different interpretations of NPA can lead to exactly the accusations of double standards we saw. --Xeeron 16:14, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Indeed Xeeron and i wasn't questioning the validity of the poll, just its placement. I think also for fairness sake perhaps you should also ask if people consider calling someone pathetic and calling someones actions pathetic are one and the same, just for balance. -- Salome 16:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Kougar's page

It may be a good idea to just withdraw now. The case has been accepted already, and Kougar has admited that he screwed things up. Further antagonizing him is not helpful at this point.--Fighterdoken 18:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

agreed. I think its wise for all of us to do that. if the case has been accepted, then our work is done. -- Wandering Traveler 18:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

But he hasn't accepted he's wrong and his avoidance of my post, which IMHO completely shot down his arguments, shows that. He's apologizing for his abuse of the ban but still hes adamant that bullying another user was completely valid and the reason he gives for the resolution of his problems with this user isn't that he was mature and worked out his issues or that he was even sorry and wouldn't want to repeat them again, no simply its the fact that Gaile's leaving. So what happens if he doesn't like the way Regina (The new CRM) handles things in the future? We'll be right back here again. He isn't anywhere close to sorry and you both know it. -- Salome 18:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Either way, that is his way of thinking and you are not going to change it with a mere talk-page dialogue. For now, we must limit ourselves to Arbcomm. Whatever happens "IF" he does something in the future will be dealt with when it happends, same as it would for Raptors, Readem, Liche, Eloc, me, or anyone else.--Fighterdoken 18:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

lets just leave it to the bcrats right now. I think we've put in enough of our opinions, and putting more in I think would just aggrevate him further. lets leave it now to the people that make the decisions. hopefully they make the right one..... -- Wandering Traveler 18:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough I'll step back for now. *grumbles about people not answering kick arse posts which completely scuppers the person arguments* ;) -- Salome 19:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Lol, I know how you feel mate. I'd love to be in there continuing in the discussion at the moment. but don't worry. Just like what you said to me back when Shadowsin was getting on my back, he'll get what he deserves eventually :P -- Wandering Traveler 21:30, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Explain to me everything he did wrong again?--Ryudo 21:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Who, shadowsin? he got mad because of the whole Mgrinshpon discussion and went after me for asking to remove the "explicit story". nothing major. -- Wandering Traveler 21:39, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

No, Kougar. All I see is NPA violation (barely) and circumventing a ban. CA has done this at least 2x and hes still around, so if Kougar gets permaban its going to be extremely unfair.--Ryudo 21:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL, okay guys and lets step away from Kougar. I'm not being a care bear just not wanting to move the the e-drama to my talk page. Lets talk about something we all enjoy, porn. Porn = good. ;) -- Salome 21:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

EDIT: not cow porn though, as me ryudo discussed and agreed earlier. :) oh and Ryudo, I agree, Escaflowne was crap but ive always been more a fantasy anime person than a sci-fi one although appleseed was okay-ish I suppose. I quite liked last flight of the phoenix, which was done to go along with the matrix. I'm also probably the only peep who didnt like Akira, but i'll continue this convo on your talk page later when im not being pestered by my boyf to get off this thing. -- Salome 21:58, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Erh, Ryudo can't exactly answer for a while. In any case, if you like fantasy you may want to look in youtube for The tower of Druagar (i may be failing on spelling).--Fighterdoken 22:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Ryudo asked me to say to talk to him in game, since he got banned.

.....are you feeling all right, Salome? -- Wandering Traveler 22:53, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry its a reference to Ryudo's talk page, just something we were talking about earlier, but yeh I'm fine thank Traveler. And as for Ryudo, what did he get banned for? I checked his edits and couldnt find anything. -- Salome 23:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

he got banned for "general asshattery" he said he wanted to talk to u to btw.

Okay thanks for the heads up, when I get onto GW i'll give him a shout online. Thanks for the update mate. -- Salome 16:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow!

That is one incredible userpage you have there! I was wondering if I could borrow some of the code from it for my userpage...bit of a wiki code noob and I wanted to spruce up my user page a bit, haha =D -Warior Kronos 00:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Mate feel free to take what you need and if you need any help please just ask. Please just remember to give credit on your user page to lensor and myself for the formatting. I have a user box on my main page doing that, so feel free to use that too if you wish. If you need anything at all though, just shout and I'll happily lend a hand. -- Salome 00:20, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for resizing! Looks great now! I was viewing on a pretty big monitor when I designed it, but I recently looked at it via a reletively small laptop and noticed what you meant. Thanks alot! -Warior Kronos 00:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Haha no, its ok, I just copied the template in. I'm doing it piece by piece, saving along the way, after a slight disaster with forgetting to save my War's page xD -Warior Kronos 03:00, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Zaishen drops

Could I ask you reason for the rather major step back in time? Backsword 01:45, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

oh god what did i do? -- Salome 02:50, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Looks like your edit to the Zaishen drop rate chart pulled down several of the values, negating a lot of the data.--Pyron Sy 02:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) It looks like you clicked edit while browsing the page history, which brings up the old version you were looking at to edit, instead of the current one. --Valshia 02:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh balls! ill fix it. Sorry must have clicked the wrong one. -- Salome 03:10, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Fixed now i think and sorry about the confusion i'm a complete fanny! -- Salome 03:16, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Now, there is no need for that type of langauge young man! --Shadowphoenix 03:17, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL ;P -- Salome 03:18, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

/scold; what have I told you no more winking and sit up straight when you typing on the computer. --Shadowphoenix 03:19, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

lol u sound like my granny!--Sum Mesmer Guy 05:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Copy-and-paste job?

Woah, woah, woah. Japanese is most definitely not a "copy-and-paste" job from China. The characters, yes, they borrowed them for their own writing system (albeit, even that is disputed), but the syntax is completely different. (Remember, English also borrowed its writing system, which was borrowed from the Romans, which they borrowed from the Phoenicians, which was ultimately borrowed from the Egyptians.) Their cultures (Japanese and Chinese) are also very, very different. And yes, English is a Germanic language, but go back far enough and they all (French, Spanish, Latin, even Arabic) come from proto-Indo-European. So, please don't go throwing about cultural stereotypes, as it's very rude. Kokuou 06:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

All language is growth and all language borrows from its neighbors and predecessors. I was being glib about Japanese and for that I apologise. The root of the Japanese language is the Chinese language system. I think any unbiased historian would tell you the same on that one and would tell you that Japan has been heavily influenced by China throughout the ages. I'm not saying this is a bad thing though, the English language as you said is a mish-mash of loads of other languages and influences as is English culture. It's not an insult for a culture to be heavily influenced by another culture, just a simple fact of living in the world, IMHO I actually think it's a good thing. Diversity = FTW IMHO. -- Salome 12:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

English isn't really english anymore. It's stolen from so many different things. Anything that is original is probably something stupid like the word "is." And even that might be wrong.- Vanguard

Actually, speaking as a linguist myself, Japanese is a language isolate. That means that linguists aren't sure where it came from or what other languages it's related to. Korean is similar, but some linguists also believe that it may be related to Finnish. Don't get me wrong, Japan has had its influence from China in the past couple hundreds of years, but Japanese was a full-fledged language before even having contact with China, and this original form of the Japanese language (called "Yamato-kotoba") is likely completely unrelated to Chinese. As for english, I'm afraid Vanguard that even 'is' is not originally English. As you say, most English words (estimates run from 80% to 85%) are borrowed from other languages. The only words we haven't borrowed are words like "cow" and "pig"; that is, words relevant to the lifestyles of our English speaking ancestors in the United Kingdom before the Norman conquest. In fact, English is probably one of the biggest "borrowers" of words in the entire world. Kokuou 18:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yup English is just a huge hodgepodge of languages, however I think that's why I enjoy it so much, it's diversity is what makes it such an interesting language. I will admit my knowledge of Japanese is gleaned from my cousin who's a linguist and translator in Mandarin, Chinese, Japanese and some European languages, so you would be better to talk to him about it, as my knowledge of the language is limited to my discussions with him. My interest in the east has always been more focused upon their cultural history than the etymology of their language. :) -- Salome 21:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I do admit that there are very similar things culturally, but they are very distinct for the most part. You mentioned that your cousin was a translator in Japanese on another page; I'm actually a Japanese>English translator myself (which probably gives me more time for playing GW than I should o_O). I do know some Mandarin, though not enough to translate it into either Japanese or English. Does your cousin play GW, too? Kokuou 22:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeh he does play GW, or at least he used to til about 6 months ago when he got a new job in Tokyo, teaching loads of Japanese businessmen how to speak English. It apparently eats into his day alot, but he enjoys it, however i havent seen him online in a couple of months now and the only way i catch him these days is by phoning him. *grumbles about Sean's busy lifestyle* -- Salome 08:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Sexiest Man Alive?

Wow John - are you the sexiest man alive today?! Araliuns sun 01:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL! What do you mean today? I'm always the sexiest man alive! lol -- Salome 10:32, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

......*twitch*.....*twitch*.....o.O -- Wandering Traveler 23:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Camp FTW!

I just noticed your 'camp' userbox, and I must say that I <3 it! :D Kokuou 06:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

LOL thanks mate. As everyone knows, Camp is the new Butch! ;) -- Salome 17:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Bcrat election comments

GWW:ELECTIONS. But i finished all anyways, so feel free to revert if you don't agree...--Fighterdoken 02:43, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I didnt actually see that you had moved the comments over to the talk pages, my apologies. Thought you had gone a bit wacky for a second and was just randomly deleting comments. -- Salome 02:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, actually i could just have gone wacky and randomly delete them, but thought it would be better to move them instead. And probably you just confused it with the Admin elections, where we are allowed to argument our votes :).--Fighterdoken 02:49, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Well that too if i'm honest. :) -- Salome 03:04, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Wondering about /report Concerns

Hi, Salome. I was working on the User talk:Gaile Gray/Support Issues page this weekend when I noticed you'd commented about a drawback that you perceived with the /report system. I'm sorry that I missed that comment, and goodness knows, it's a few weeks old. :-/ But anyway, I wondered if you could let me know if there's anything you could further supply about the concern you mentioned earlier. It's on this link. Thanks! -- Gaile 22:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Support

Hey Salome, thanks for taking the time to support me on my recent RFA :) --Kakarot 02:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

It's not worth it.

Don't feed the drama. I think you know what I'm talking about. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 17:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Yup I do, I just find it annoying that after all the peeps who got upset, nothing was learned. *frustrated* I think that's one of the things I don't like about the internet. In RL, my job gives me complete control, when I have an opinion on something people have to take it into consideration and when something is judged the person has to abide by it and go on from there; however on the net, regardless of how sound the logic or what the judgement is, people can just ignore it, if it doesn't fit in with what they want it to, regardless of how logically twisted that is. It's SO annoying. -- Salome 17:26, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Elections

"Are we gonna change into a direct tally then or not, as at the moment it seems to be working that way."

That problems has been persistent in a lot of the elections so far, leading to a range of proposals to change that policy. Sadly, no proposal that would deal with this problem has gotten consensus yet. --Xeeron 09:52, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Moved from Admin Noticeboard

Sorry to kind of discuss, but just warn first before posting on the Admin noticeboard. If they continue to vandalize after the warning, then post here. — ク Eloc 貢 04:04, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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link? -Auron 00:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

do you want me to link on this page or go to the discussion page and provide a link there? For a VERY recent example there is: Talk:Oktoberfest#Vandalism and that's just in the last 48 hours. -- Salome 12:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Cinco de Mayo

Well that went well but was was stressful. :) -- Salome 22:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

That was fun ^^ thnx for d event and u all did a good job --Mage Montu 23:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I saw both of you there. Calor 23:14, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeh you two were so good with the questions. Rock on guys! I had a great time, just was well stressed. -- Salome 23:23, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

As anyone would imagine :). Any idea on LaZy's next celebration of a minor holiday as an excuse to get virtually hammered? Calor 23:24, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

LOL, yeh we're discussing that now. We might be doing Oktoberfest again. Which could be fun as we seem to be getting better at it each time we host something. As cinco owned our last event at oktoberfest, so hopefully we could improve again on Cinco with Oktoberfest 2. We arent sure yet though, as the amount of work required from lazy members to arrange this stuff was extreme, like it took 4 months to arrange Cinco. -- Salome 23:27, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I figured it took around that long to get donations and coordinate people. Same with Oktoberfest II. Calor 23:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

This was my first participation in a community host event, cause i never had time, and I rly enjoyed it. I wish my guild would do something like that but they're lazy :P . Anyway looking forward for your next event and I'll try to donate something this time. --MageMontu 07:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Ooo, I so hope we can do another Oktoberfest. And totally blow both Cinco and the previous Oktoberfest out of the water. That'd be epic. §Azhure Sun Soar 22:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Profession

Has one "f".Cassie 11:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Errr....okay. Thanks for the heads up. So may I ask, is it just that you have a "word of the day" thing going and like to message people about it or are you going to clarify exactly what that post was in reference too: :) -- Salome 12:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, couldn't resist. It's misspelled on your user page. ("Proffession: trainee lawyer").Cassie 12:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh so i have, im such a bloody numpty. Thanks for the heads up sweetheart. Was totally confused as to what you were talking about before. :) -- Salome 12:29, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

LaZy

Oi. I was wondering if LaZy is accepting new people. I like my guild now but I want a break. D: Vael Victus 02:11, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for not getting back in touch mate, been distracted by other wiki stuff and not been paying attention to my talk page. If you are 18+ and have vent and a working Mic, then I'm sure we can find a place for you in LaZy. Just message either myself, Aragon Zar, Xxx Richard Xxx or Haxor Mastermind in game and we'll get you sorted out. :) -- Salome 12:53, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm 19 right now, and actually, I've gone back to PvE a bit. I dunno, I guess I kinda, do 'em both? Since my computer can't run source games anymore, and I'm finishing the first season of Lost (hauhauhau) I'll have some more time for GW, so yeah. I'll check it out. Also I'm 19 with a mic and can run quite a few popular builds for necro. Vael Victus 14:43, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

PS: "This user is Male, but camp as knickers!" What is camping as knickers? Vael Victus 14:45, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Oi, I'm just waiting for the website to be revamped or whatever lol. Recruitment is frozen, so I'm waiting for it to thaw !! Vael Victus 02:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeh not really sure why its been frozen; should "thaw" soon though. Oh as for camp as knickers its a british expression. I think the american equivlent is "as camp as a row of tents". -- Salome 02:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

D: So, then, what is camp? Or, actually, what are you saying on your userpage? Haha. Vael Victus 23:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_(style), there we go, that page explains camp to you. :) -- Salome 05:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Sweet. I'm gonna do a box for it too now. On my userpage. 'cuz camp is oldschool. Why do I type... Vael Victus 20:55, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Calor

Despite popular belief, I am not a vandal :D Calor 00:55, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

ROFL! Yeh we all know it's you really spamming "LOL VANDALISM!", admit it you wee wiki demon! -- Salome 00:59, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

the reson you glitch

the reason you keep glitching is that im currently adding new stuff to my page.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Getefix (talk).

hmmm.... maybe. Never been on nay page before that too away the side navigation bar though and yours does, which was just a tad on the odd side. -- Salome 17:25, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Please remember to sign your comments Getefix. — ク Eloc 貢 01:02, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

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Trolling PvX is a permaban now, because we (the admins) got fed up with it. We haven't actually had to enforce that yet, so it appears to be working. Also, Napalm hardly qualifies as a "PvX friend". He's kinda been permabanned since January, with a short period in March when we gave him a second chance. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 23:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

By PvX friend, i didn't mean friend of PvX, I meant a friend of Ska's from PvX. Have to admit I haven't been on PvX for awhile, the constant insults and "we're leet, your not" attitude, just annoyed me greatly. -- Salome 08:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, no kidding. It was nearly impossible to focus on building builds with all the "omg u fial, lolol u sux @ gaem" going around. For a while, the elitists were at least still elite; but when all the scrubs started copying their behavior, there was no point in continuing to tolerate it. -Auron 08:37, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yup, Auron. I didn't mind it as much when those who were really good players were being arsey about builds, as at least they had a point, but when the numpty Wammos who didn't know their arse from their elbow started giving retarded advice and bitching at how much you "fial" if you pointed out the flaws in that advice, I just couldn't be bothered much anymore. Hopefully the new policy will get PvX back to what it used to be, as it used to be a great site. -- Salome 08:43, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild Wars is srs bsns --66.245.82.37 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Regina's talk page

"Why aren't you banned yet?" isn't really the most drama avoiding comment I've seen. If you have a problem with a user, bring it up on their talk page or at the noticeboard. Regina's (or anyone else's) talk page is definitely the wrong place. - anja 11:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)