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New Account Security Article

Just a wee double post -- here and Support Issues, not too spammish ;) -- to let you know you can get info on how to prevent account theft in the new Support article about Account Security. Check out the other FAQs and articles, too, if you like. And if you have any questions or comments, of if you have suggestions for additions to the page, please feel free to post 'em on the Support Issues Discussion Page and I'll get an answer or update the page. Thanks! -- Gaile 02:31, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gaile - I'd like to start off by both thanking you for taking the time to do this, and to also say I'm honestly not here looking to start an argument or anything - something just caught my attention.

Do not trade game accounts or access keys (game, buddy, trial) for in-game payment. --> Once the RMT gains your account credentials, they steal both accounts: the one you offered for sale and your main account, too. Even if an account is recovered — and often it is — it will frequently be stripped of irreplaceable items and wealth.

I'd have thought that Support would say something along the lines of "You broke the User Agreement, it didn't work out, that's too bad for you" or such. I'm honestly not trying to nitpick over details, would you mind clarifying that? I have absolutely zero intentions of going anywhere near a RMT Company, so you don't have to take the time, just once I start reading things I normally delevop an interest in understanding them as best I can.

Thanks for reading this. A F K When Needed 14:56, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I want to make sure: Are you asking why we would ever give back a main account to someone who had tried to sell a buddy key or a secondary account? You're right, the policy could be 100% "You're banned, and your little dog, too!" :) However, there are sometimes mitigating circumstances, and in that case the main account might be restored to the account holder. (There would still be a significant suspension, of course, even in those rare cases.) Notice that on the page, I say "recovered," and not "restored." "Recovered" simply means it was retrieved from the thief; "recovered and restored" or even just "restored" is the phrase I would use to refer to accounts that are taken from a thief and given back to the account holder. Due to the ability to review records and determine what transpired with these sorts of transactions, we're able to recover or retrieve a lot of the stolen accounts. Whether they are then restored to the owner is up to the Support Team, and it does happen far less infrequently.

Do you find my comments answered your question? Or do you feel the page needs changing? I'm trying to keep it really straightforward and would prefer not to put lengthy commentary like this on the actual page. :) What do you think? Thanks for your input.-- Gaile 20:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

o.O *feels important*

Well, I had only thought about people selling what I'd call "full accounts" (I think you refer to them as "game accounts"?).

As for changes, I'll just say the one thing. I realize now I had made the mistake of recovered = restored, and that's my doing. But, forgive me, the fact that you talk about it being recovered, and then go on to talk about items being stripped from the account probably played a fairly significant part in my confusion. I would suggest you edit that a little. (the part I refer to here is the quote above.)

Just to clarify - if people won't get their account back, an Eternal Blade in Xunlai will probably seem a little insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

My apologies for the slow response, and thank you for being so prompt and interested in what I have to say :) A F K When Needed 16:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Skill Name Question

formerly "Kind of a stupid question"

but a friend apparently wants to know, even after I reminded him that it was a real word: was Gale named after you? —Jette 21:18, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi. I never asked, but I assume it was named after a type of storm -- you know, typhoon, hurricane, gale -- and not me. :) -- Gaile 23:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's what I thought, but you can never really be sure these days. In the same vein, the names for Gust and Gale are mixed up; a gust is defined as a brief burst of wind whose strength exceeds the lowest wind speed measured in a 10-minute period by at least 10 knots, or 19km/s, whereas a gale, while loosely defined, is commonly accepted as a wind of strength at least 55 knots (about 101km/h), far higher than most gusts could possibly expect to be except under tornado-like conditions. Therefore, if a gust in GW is capable of knocking down a human and doing damage, a gale should cause a longer knock down and cause more damage, except that would obviously be broken. —Jette 00:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Disagree. Gusts being a snappy little burst of wind might cause one to lose one's balance and fall over. Gales by contrast are sustained, so the person would simply compensate by leaning into it. ;p Plus arrows would stray off-target in a gale. :D -- WarBlade 06:04, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I've always felt that way, too, WarBlade. Gusts = short. Gales = longer. -- Gaile 01:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Armor

i just wrote this on the armor page discussion and would want for you to look at it,since you are someone who has a voice in the Anet community and i really admire you for that :)...i think this suggestion isn't bad since when i started out playing GW Nightfall was already out and i got fond of the dervish class and i played it since.I have lots of titles maxed and when GWEN got out i was so happy with HoM,a place where i can place my achievements...So i got to more title maxing,doing elite missions,buying minis,hero armor and weapons,when i realised that the drev class didn't have all prestige armor i can place in HoM...after around 3 years of playing i felt so bad about having to start with a new class just so that i can have all prestige armor...Hopefully me and other players will get heard and i will have my wish come true ^^...Here is what i wrote so if you can i would be eternally grateful for helping out... :P

"Anet please add at least prestige armor to the previous campaigns,and by this i mean D/P/A/Rt armor in prophecies and D/P armor in factions...I don't understand the point of account-wide HoM,and HoM armor display when some professions don't have all armor and others do,i want my derv to be able to show all prestige armor,not having to make a new char just so i can put all armor in my HoM...and i do love my main derv char so you could make a contest like it was suggested but it is really pointless being able to play prophecies and factions missions with nightfall characters and not to be able to get the prestige armor...As i figured all campaigns meet at the point when u reach LA/KC/Kamadan after completing Istan...It didn't say that prophecies happened before nightfall when i played,or that i can't do prophecies missions because they already happened,i hope this is reason enough to add some armor,i mean when you can play nerf/buff with skills,maybe thinking about doing something that everyone will appreciate instead of playing with us people that like this game...And i think that a major update that doesn't involve skills is due since there wasn't one in a long time..." 95.180.43.70 12:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

its Becuase derv/para/sin/rit can have thier own games to work in ¬_¬--Neil2250 14:59, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

"And i think that a major update that doesn't involve skills is due since there wasn't one in a long time..."" April says Hi. And They aren't gonna release derv para rit and sin armor in prophecies, and aren't gonna release derv and para armor in factions. personn5 21:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I haven't heard about new armour being added to Guild Wars in the way that you mention and, as stated above, there are specific "homelands" for certain professions, so the way armour is presented in the game makes sense to me. However, you sure could make a suggestion on the appropriate page, though, as the newly-updated wiki allows that sort of thing.

As far as updates, Live Team members have mentioned that there will be larger updates from time to time, but there's no announced date for the next such update. And yes, generally those updates have significant content beyond skill changes. -- Gaile 23:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

You might want to take a look at Linsey's FAQ page. -- Wyn talk 15:11, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see what you mean, Wyn. Linsey says, "Like I always say, getting Art is difficult. I can say with some certainty that we will not ever do more armor sets as a single cycle of armor takes a senior character artist almost a full year from concept to polish and that certainly isn't likely to happen." So as you can see, it's extremely unlikely that we'll see new armour in Guild Wars. Sorry! -- Gaile 01:16, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

:'(

Arenas & Explorer Title

Could we...

Nag at the reintroduction of the arenas in proth?,my char is stuck at 98.7 in tyrian explorering and ive been everywhere exept the discontinued arenas, ive tryed loads of things,texmod,my freind looking closely at the Tyrian map conserned to my one,NOTHING exept the arenas is left...i know your not the peep to tell..but nag somebody :3 --Neil2250 15:11, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

I doubt Anet will reintroduce that for your missing % unfortunately ! :P And it sounds more ingame help too hehe. But anyway, have a look for more tips you might have missed there and don't forget you can access to the former Team Arena outpost completing Hell's Precipice, which lead you to Droknar's Forge. Davor Belegnaur 15:33, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yep, you're definitely missing something else. If it was impossible to get that title without the areas, a lot of people wouldn't have that title. DarkNecrid 15:35, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

If you scrape as you progress, you should hit 100% before you get to Hell's Precipice.--Pyron Sy 21:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeh ive finished all the games on the character im using,and got to that droks bit.Thx for the link ill have a long look.--Neil2250 18:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

As far as I remember, there's no stopper to getting the title fully in PvE play alone. That means you do not need to enter a single arena to get the Explorer title. (And yes, I just confirmed that with Andrew.) I think the "scraping" idea is a good one, and I've found that chatting with other players (in game, on a forum, on the wiki) about the places that they found were the "hidden areas" will get you to 100%. Best of luck! -- Gaile 23:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

If it would help, I got my title without going through any of the arenas that were locked out. It's possible, and those last few % are really painful. King Neoterikos 04:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The Cartography Texmod pack that Pyron Sy put out turns this title from a chore into something that's actually interesting to do. Highly recommended. See this page for details. -- Hong 04:40, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Bah, I didn't consider the title a chore and I did it without texmod! Then again, I am weird and was determined to not use texmod to get this title. I don't like third party programs that affect the game. Katherinezoltin 06:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Removing Hero Battles

Heya

Hi Gaile, I just read Linsey's page and I saw something there that really shocked me, the plan to remove Hero Battles from the game, are they really going to do that? I can't get my commander title maxed before the next season so that would be a disaster for me... Kind regards, Tyraelxy 14:38, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Linsey_Murdock/Journal#August_28th.2C_2009 Yes. DarkNecrid 17:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Just as Linsey knows I'm always up for a discussion about a Support issue, and she sends folks to my section for help, I know that Linsey is open to player feedback about the game and about upcoming changes. I want to encourage you to post your thoughts on her talk page so that she knows how you feel about the proposed changes. But remember, these changes are in the early stages and no one has all the info quite yet! -- Gaile 01:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Running multiple copies of Guild Wars

This topic has been going on for months now, we've had some very vague answers and I was hoping to read the most recent topic again, was in your Support section but I can't seem to find it there, or in the archives either ( I may very well be blind). I was wondering if there was an update on running multiple versions of Guild Wars other than very broad guidelines we've been given. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 04:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

This one? User_talk:Gaile_Gray/Support_Issues/Temp#Multiple_accounts -- Wyn talk 04:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

/throws hands in the air. It appears I forgot to check the old temp ... thingy pages. ~~000.00.00.00~~ <--- so special O.O >_< ~~000.00.00.00~~ 08:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

And at this point, there's still no additional info available. The team feels that the parameters given should be informative enough, and we're all naturally cautious about giving "approval" or being seen to give approval, to third-party programs of any kind. -- Gaile 01:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Character Rename Pack Question and a Suggestion

I recently purchased the rename pack and after I changed the name and bought new armor the new armor stills says the old name. Why is that?

Also I have an idea to spruce up ITLAPD (International Talk Like A Pirate Day), instead of having just Grog drop add like some quests where at the end the player is rewarded with either a pirate hat and/or an eye patch?!. I don't know make it more interesting and fun other than 3 days non-stop Raptor Farming. Firemane

The reason would be that renaming your character currently isn't programmed to change the name displayed on every item you've customized :P. It doesn't affect anything tho, so long as your Character ID matches the ID placed on the item, it'll let you use it. This is why if you name a character, customize an item, trade it with someone else, then delete that character and make a new one with the same name...they won't be able to use it, because they are given a new Character ID separate from the name of the character which prevents that. :P This much I know. ^^ DarkNecrid 12:52, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Firemane. It's true, there is no way to change item names to match the renamed character. This does not in any way affect the functionality of the item, and of course no one can see that the name on your armour doesn't match your character name. (Well, unless you put it in trade, and why would you? :) ) This is something we are careful to call out in the Name Change FAQ so people who are thinking about a rename have all the details. (That FAQ was posted on April 22, so it's been around a while and there's a very bold direction in the purchase screen to encourage people to read it.)

I like your idea for ITLAPD, but I think there's a better way to post it, so I think you should use the Suggestions function so more people see it. Thanks! -- Gaile 00:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I just want to say I think the option to change the names of the characters is a great addition, especially if people who get banned for offensive names are allowed the chance to rename the offensive name character, but the extreme makeover pack is not satisfying. I changed the gender of my male mesmer Llewelyn Staciakiir and renamed him/her as Lia Staciakiir and did the same to my female elementalist who was originally Lia Staciakiir (i had given one of them some other name temporarily so I could just keep my names). After all of the money I spent on the 2 gender switches and 3 name swaps I am greatly disappointed that not only does the armor they were wearing still have the original name on it, but so does any armor I create or purchase since. I do not see any other way to return or even complain about this issue. I do not like having armor Customized for Lia Staciakiir on my Male Elementalist who is now named Laucian Staciakiir. I would like the opportunity to get my characters back to the way they were before the purchase, and if I may use the money that I would get back to have additional character slots (and if there is any left over after 7 additional slots I would like as many xunlai panes as I have credit for at that point). With my solution, Anet does not need to give back any money, as I would rather have the characters anyway, I just want my old characters back. Is there a way we can arrange this? --96.250.1.161 00:33, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I want to say first of all that I regret -- we all regret -- that items/armour names can't be changed. It's not something we take lightly, but it really isn't possible to do that. I imagine that, with the GW2 Team aware of this, it won't be an issue in that game.

Also, thanks for not throwing a fit and asking for a complete refund of every game you ever bought, every add-on, and your last bag of kitty kibbles, too. ;) I've seen a few requests come through that were just a "bit" over the top like that, and I think you're being a real good sport about this, 96. Why don't you go ahead and submit a support request to share your proposal? It can't hurt to ask, for while I believe all purchases are no refund/no exchange, you are certainly more than welcome to talk to the team with your proposal. -- Gaile 00:55, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I will look into the support link as suggested, I thank you for your swift response, I am a business person by education, so I am more inclined to find the balance in favor of both parties to make an easy solution possible. I hope the support team is as receiving of my criticism and request as you seem to be.--Stack 01:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Abusing report

I was just wondering, do you ever ban people for abusing report? Cuz I'm pretty tired of seeing "haha i reported u noob" whenever I just tell people to stfu... --Cursed Angel 22:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Problem is "stfu" can be considered insulting which is reportable. As long as you say it calmly and nice you should, however, be right. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 23:34, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, people can receive a mark on their account -- and a suspension -- for abusing the /report feature. However, when the team investigates and sees that the other player has used abusive language, that may be seen to cancel out the other abuse. Or both players may get a mark. If you're honestly telling people to STFU, why not use slightly less aggressive language, so that the team can see the real offender in the exchange and doesn't conclude the issue involves a case of "mutual harassment?" -- Gaile 19:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

While STFU can probably lead to a successful report...what about grief reporters, Gaile? I've seen so many people get grief reported with Leeching or Bad Name reports because they did bad in a match and then the griefers get a group of people to report the otherwise innocent person... I hope these grief reporters are getting the punishment they deserve still right? I don't want to sound ridiculous but I won't stand for griefers anymore which is why I quit Random Arenas (mostly) until the report system can be revised by arenanet. I'd send in a report to anet with the grifers abusing report if I only had time for each of the numerous time's I've witnessed it. I just leave it up to you guys to keep the good work up and make the game better in any way you can. - Chrisworld 18:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I've asked about this in the past, and no one is blocked just on the basis of /reports alone. The /reports will prompt a review of the person who was reported, but if there's no violation, the account isn't marked. Grief reporters should be actioned, I agree, and I'm sure if that happens if they are noted doing it. In that case, they will be given a mark and a time out. I have a question about how that is tracked and actioned, though, so I'll look into it further. -- Gaile 18:39, 20 October 2009 (UTC):::

Yeah Ive had that same problem. One day i was in RA and got put on a team of sync'ers. I was the only person not from their guild, so they all reported me for leeching because i interupted their sync, so i got dishonorable and had to sit out.... Not very fair.

Normally, guild syncs will ask you to resign first. If you choose not to resign, you're griefing in their opinion, although the legitimacy of that opinion is questionable. Unless Support starts reviewing Leeching reports, I'd just suggest compliance as a good option. (If they're just being asshats, maybe send a screenshot to Support?) ··· Danny Pew Pew 21:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

rr dae :(

Hello Gaile! I'd like to personally introduce myself. I am a guildwars player of many years. When HB was introduced I loved it and began to play it a lot. I have constantly played the game legit and never abused anything. During this day, called RR day...I keep wanting to play HB but if I either join in and are assigned blue, they leave or If i am assigned red, I get cursed and griefed at and then they either leave or are just so mad they play, but I like when they play because that is what HB is about. I just love HB and want to get in play time as much as i can, I play HB normal and I get downed because I do, what should I do Gaile? How do you think I feel as a normal HB player getting cursed at for not resigning if Im red or just having to quit if the other guy leaves? Do you think I do the right thing by playing normal today through RR day and take the abuse? Am I a good player.. :( this makes me so angry and upset :( :( 97.74.144.87 00:10, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

IP, I understand where you're coming from and understand that it can be upsetting to get cursed at for not resigning just for playing a format that you like. However, I would like you to understand that Gaile works with support and unless you would like to report the players who cursed you, I don't think this is necessarily the place to ask this. If you're looking for consolation, I would recommend trying one of the Guild Wars forums, like Guild Wars Guru. There are hundreds of players who have similar feelings as you and if you would like to vent a forum is the place to do that. I hope this helps you out and if you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page. Karate Jesus 00:55, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Personally I don't think banning will solve anything as removing HB will solve the issue.Now while in theory you (the ip) are certainly right but its just better to not play HB on RR.First of all ~50% of the matches they will just resign.The other 50% they will either leave or flame/wait and *might* play.So If you are really going to HB to play and not to just have your cake and eat it to then I advise you wait.After RR'day there is no such thing and RR'day isn't even once a week.Like I said in theory you are completely right and the guys flamin you should be banned.But in the end that won't change much,You might get them a 3 day ban then what ? All it will do is be a nuisance and most of them will just play on their second account.Just sayin mate Lilondra 05:51, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I would say there IS no such thing as an officially-sanctioned RR Day. I would say that if you are abused, you should hit /report and let the Support Team know. Alternately, make a list in Notepad and submit an email or a ticket to support to let them know what's going on. No player harassment is tolerated in Guild Wars, and that includes player harassment of those who refuse to engage in game cheating, exploiting, or ladder manipulation.

Hero Battles and Team Arena close this week, as per the Live Team. This matter will become moot at that point, I'm sure. But for any cases where you find yourself the victim of harassment, there are remedies and I hope you will use them to help us make Guild Wars a better place to be. -- Gaile 19:39, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

First of all I'd like to thank you to for the response.My point isn't that this isn't the right thing to do in theory its just that when it comes to the real deal its hard to do and will rly only have negative consequenses (I'm talking about when you'd permaban obv).But rly Appreciate how a anet employee actually cares and gives its best Lilondra 05:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gaile, I thank you for responding to that player's input on RR day, I had similar expierences. Heres what happens when you play HB normally on RR day over on guildwars guru. http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Chrisworld#Guild_Wars:_.22RR_Day.22 I hope you enjoy those links on your free time, Gaile. thanks for your time and keep up the great work, EDIT: and your support for RR day being wrong/cheating, thanks again. Chrisworld 18:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Red Resign (Last time)

Gaile, I'd like to thank you for addressing the concern and giving us information on what exactly has and will be done in regards to fixing the HB issue. Thank you for staying with the post even as it got long, and responding accordingly. --adrin 02:49, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree. It's great to see good information from a Community Relations Manager Anet employee. Karate Jesus 02:59, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

@ Adrin -- I don't know that I've given every detail, but if what I've done is helpful in any way, that's good to know.

@ KJ -- I don't know what that means, but I'm concerned that it's intended negatively towards me or towards someone else. Let's just say the team decided to share a bit of info and I was the one who mentioned it because it tied in with a support issue. It's really that simple. -- Gaile 22:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm just sayin that it's nice that you stuck with the thread and answered my question, thanks. Pls dont think i'm giving the same message as KJ, i'm actually being sincere. --adrin 01:12, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

How could that be interpreted negatively? Didn't Gaile used to be the CR Manager?

And adrin, please assume good faith and stop painting me into this corner that you have prepared for me with my dunce hat and troll sign all ready. I'm becoming increasingly exacerbated at your aggressive edits against me. I think even Gaile would agree that I have been pretty reasonable today. All I wanted was information about support's stance on this situation and she has been more than generous with me (thanks for that Gaile). If you actually got to know me, you'd know I'm not like that. Seriously, adrin, get off my back. Karate Jesus 02:20, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Gaile was unsure about your intentions and that you might be negatively protraying someone. I was unsure as well, thinking it might be a stab at regina, so i distanced myself from you. If you are sincere, then thats fine. I just want to avoid any suspicion of sarcasm or negativity from my comment as it was a sincere thanks --adrin 04:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

RR Day Ban Reactions

I figured you're probably already aware of this, but this thread has a lot of people's reactions to the concept of bans over RR day. I would personally comment there, but I'm currently banned for early bumping a sale thread on Guru. As you probably know, there are pretty extreme opinions on the topic. Karate Jesus 21:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to comment much on their reactions. I will say it makes me sad that people are being unkind. What does it matter who says what? No team member operates in a vacuum, and because the information on HB removal directly related to a support issue, I checked on the removal date and the CT said it was cool to mention it. So those comments are moot. And while I'm sorry if people are unhappy about possible support action in relation to match manipulation, the Live Team stated RR Day is match manipulation. Any support action that is taken, if any is taken, naturally follows normal practices. -- Gaile 22:31, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you. The comments got out of hand on that thread. However, it does seems that the people who are upset seem to be upset because they were either unaware that it was against the rules or that they have friends who weren't aware that it was against the rules. It would probably help, in the future, if these decisions were put in a place where all players would see it. At least then, they'd be without excuse. Karate Jesus 22:35, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

A place where all players can see them? Like here?  ;)

It is impossible for us to have an advisory about "Don't do this, that, or the other thing or you might get in trouble." Players are expected to observe the User Agreement to which they agree and the Rules of Conduct, which is called out in the UA. I'm not trying to argue with you, but "ignorance of the law is no defense." They don't have a sign on the freeway calling out every possible traffic infraction, either, but the rules of the road still apply.

People who claim "I didn't know it was cheating," or "All my friends are doing it" may be telling the truth. But people said the same thing about any number of other things, from using the Cinematic Exploit (2005), to using the Mallyx Exploit (2008), to duping. And all of those things -- all of them -- were clearly cheating and all of those involved were actioned.

Were people who were farming hundreds and hundreds of Z-keys in a day for not playing the game really not sure if they were breaching the rules? It's not for me to say. I just wonder. -- Gaile 22:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand from a legal stand, that not knowing you are breaking a law does NOT imply you will not be prosecuted and punished for breaking it. I'm not a lawyer, though. -- Large 22:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm not disagreeing with you. Excuses are excuses. I'm just letting you know what other players are saying (still banned there, can't make my own comments). I agree with you that they can't excuse out of this; however, I know that you and support have, in the past, taking the community's feeling into account. And what's the law for if not to serve the community. including the company itself? I just think this should be heavily reviewed and considered. I would hate to see friends in my alliance, who are strong PvE'ers, banned for participating in the last 3 weeks of RR. I would especially hate to see this considering that many of them didn't know it was wrong. I actually had to inform them that it was wrong yesterday. They didn't know.

Believe it or not, not all of us have read the Rules of Conduct ;) Karate Jesus 23:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I understand. I have not said that "everyone who participated in RR Day is going to get banned." Boy oh boy, people do misread things, don't they? What I have said is that the Live Team considers RR Day (with the insta-resign feature) to be a form of match manipulation. Beyond identifying what it is I have not identified what the team will elect to do about it. Enforcement of the rules is never taken lightly, and it is always taken with a clear and focused view on the community of players.

I should also say that resigning and botting to resign are two different things. The latter is sort of a 2-fer-1 breach. -- Gaile 23:07, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing that up. It's just a complicated issue and I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around it with the various problems in the situation. Karate Jesus 23:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe for a moment that people didn't realize RR was against the rules, they just knew Anet wouldn't react given the fact that match manipulation has always gone unpunished in HB. The whole thing was much better organized than /roll 100 for example, it started out by a few people within the HB community gathering people in abandoned districts to RR (who like I said were well aware Anet wouldn't ban them) and later on entire PvE alliances joined in on the fun. The situation seems pretty clear to me now, only the accounts identified as bots will be banned like usual while the match manipulation will be quietly ignored until the format is deleted and all of the problems with HB are 'resolved'. I'd be very surprised to see Anet take more dramatic actions, although I wouldn't exactly feel sorry for people getting banned if they do. --Draikin 00:36, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

How about people who buyed 10accounts to multiload and farm zkeys? without a botting program, can't think thats fair then? 84.80.151.136 12:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

If they are farming them by manipulating the matches, ie Red Resign, then no, they've been cheating 10 times over. If they have legitimately purchased 10 accounts and are playing with all 10 honestly, then sure it's fair. There is no rule against owning multiple game accounts. -- Wyn talk 12:06, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Im lost

Not sure were to put this interesting picture i found,

Its seems to be a glitched Mod wepon, Becuase ive NEVER seen any like it... Any ideas of who to consult?--Neil2250 10:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's glitched, it was just never turned into an inscription C4K3 Talk 11:00, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I suppose,thats 1 way of explaining it.--Neil2250 11:09, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Peeps in PRE pay good money to have a health degen weapon, to speed DL. Did it drop recently? Or did you have it lying around in storage?   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 11:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Its a recorded mod, you can get ones that do energy degen aswell, but it isn't a glitch, just a rare mod that doesn't come as an inscription. Tidas 11:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Knew i had a pic somewhere. Tidas 11:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Nah one of my freinds got it in a round of DTSC lately ,love the double vamp axe btw --Neil2250 15:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

And what has pre got to do with it?!,my armor is clearly leet kurz and a charr helm -.---Neil2250 15:32, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

That -2 axe is sweet. --smøni 15:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Ty, pity I don't have it anymore, gave it to a friend. Tidas 15:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

yup yup elix Omni 05:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd give it a 10/10

I raged pretty hard and I'm not even ashamed to admit it. ··· Danny Pew Pew 09:23, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Umm... Danny, what gets this sterling rating? :) The new security question? -- Gaile 01:01, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I provide this service purely as a translator. I am not expressing an opinion on Danny's comment. On this wiki and other places on the internet trolling can be given an out of 10 score, with 10 being the best troll job, making people rage the hardest and usually being creative or funny. A score of 1 or 0 would suggest something cliche or unlikely to make anyone rage, a poor attempt at trolling. Danny is expressing that he feels trolled, well trolled either by something ArenaNet has done or something you have personally done recently. He goes on to say that he felt this was such an impressive troll job that he does not even feel ashamed that he got trolled and raged as a result. As to why exactly he feels trolled, I can only speculate, but previous conversations with Danny suggest to me that your guess that it has to do with the security question is correct. I hope that helps. Danny can clarify further if he wishes. Misery 17:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

^^ One of the rare things that made me lol. ^_^; Rose Of Kali 18:09, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Gosh, Misery. I don't know whether to be happy or insulted. ;) I mean, moi linked to trolling? O rly?

I note that Danny hasn't stopped back by to explain his comment, so I'm going to assume that he's still recovering from said raging, and that he'll update when he's been able to contain himself properly. -- Gaile 19:43, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Danny wrote me an email saying, in part, that he felt the update wasn't effective, or was some sort of "PR move." Generally I think it's better to continue ongoing discussions on the wiki itself, for efficiency, fairness, and full disclosure. (As you know, we strive for as much transparency as possible.) Therefore, please allow me to point Danny and anyone else with a similar concern to this thread, where they can clearly see the update was highly effective at protecting accounts from RMT hacking. The change asking for a few extra seconds at log-in wasn't a Band-aid or a "make it look better" move; it was a provably effective change that benefits all Guild Wars players. -- Gaile 20:47, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

After reading through Gaile's response, I have to say I've changed my mind a bit. I'm still concerned that IGNs would be extremely easy to glean from third-party sites, but it's hard to argue with numbers. ··· Danny Pew Pew 04:04, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Danny. I appreciate your reading the link. I'm not saying that the character name requirement is the be-all and end-all, but it's been very effective. -- Gaile 04:08, 12 January 2010 (UTC)