Talk:Norn

Rage

a "rage of half-giant shapeshifters", is a rage a collective noun for half-giant shapeshifters? Vladtheemailer 12:52, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

I think it was just a typo >__> Crenel 17:45, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Wonderful description

"Everything about them is on an epic scale. They fight epic monsters, build epic buildings, and drink epic flagons of ale. You would see a typical Norn standing in front of a giant ice wyrm in a torrential snowstorm laughing because the wyrm doesn't stand a chance." (Ben Miller)

Not what I see every time I smack the dog crap out of one at a rez shrine haha Nay the One and Only 22:20, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Predicted problem

I dunno if it's just me, but tying "Norn" into my chat box looks a lot like "Nom"... Armond 14:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

... Oh Noessss!!!!111one!! 24.210.241.112 15:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Uniqueness

Am I the only one who feels that the Norns got shafted in the creative department? Sure they get shapeshifting abilities, but I'm thinking about their looks. With more and more Norn heroes getting made known, they don't look like anything but giant versions of humans... well, I know that's what their description says but if they came up with the Asura, the Sylvari, the Charr,... couldn't something be made to make them look a little more special than larger versions of humans? -- ab.er.rant 03:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

.....(Sry if i didn't add this in right) When you think about it, the Norn are already a unique people. First they have their height, next their bear-shape-shifting, then the fact that they're running aorund in a metal bikini in the middle of a blizzard (frost bite anyone?) and on top of that they have a HUGE cultural difference from the rest of the humans in Tyria. (Also they do have their skimpy armor which makes them a little more special than other humans... mrrowl ^_^ [Z. Ametefe] 02:47, 31 July 2007

At least they're more original than Dwarves. I'm a bit disappointed that more of the established races like the Tengu and Centaurs weren't on the list, but the five announced playable races aren't necessarily the only ones, and I like all of the five of them. -- Gordon Ecker 09:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Tengu there's a thought..wait...elementals's Destroyers! they'd be kick ass....even better Dragon! XD lol Zachariah Zuan 21:02, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Skills

Male use axe skills, female sword (in most cases for collectors and bounty dudes) - are there completed lists of their skills out there somewhere? Seeing as they all do the same thing it could be templated for easy use. Most of the collector articles only have 2 skills listed (cause they get owned before they get to use anything else). - BeX 05:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Seems a bit trivial to be creating a template for something like this. -- ab.er.rant 14:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Well the NPC pages at the moment are mostly incomplete and it would ensure that the data was included and centralized in one spot. I think because of the sheer amount of NPCs and the unchanging data between them all, the template would help to have consistency and completeness. But if not, we still need a complete list of all their skills and to update every page with that list anyway. - BeX 15:11, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Bug?

This is weird because I do not have a Norn Rank of +5 and yet I hear those terms the Norn say if you have a rank of +5. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:63.229.193.41 .

Dialouge

I'm not sure where to put this, but this is the standard Norn bounty NPC response after reaching rank 1 but before getting Heart of the Norn:

"You are earning a powerful reputation among Norn. The renowned Tyr the Skaald [Norn Storyteller] of Gunnar's Hold wishes to discuss your famous deeds."

-- Gordon Ecker 10:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Isnt the "Ya hey there" at least a semi-referance to wisconsin and canadian accents? Tearh 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

nobody in wisconsin says ya hay there. i live here. and we all talk like normal non-crazy human beings. for those type of accents we point further north. at LEAST Canada.. maybe upper Michigan.

WoW Ripoff?

Go to http://www.wowwiki.com/Vrykul and tell me if this isn't just a little itty-bitty reminiscient of the Norn.... Any Comment? ( I mean that WoW Ripped off Norn... not GW Ripoff ...WoW thingeys....) -Zahra-

Seems more like a case of a common inspiration (Norse mythology and giants) rather than a rip-off. Still, very similar. --Valentein 21:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Yer I don't think this is a ripp off of WoW at all. SystemisFlawed

I agree. There is some resemblance, but thats just from them being both from Norse mythology Tearh 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

It's obviously not a ripoff because EotN came out before the WoW game that the Vrykul came out in.--213.106.88.106 19:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I think he actually meant WoW ripped off our Norn idea, and that being the case it wouldn't surprise me. Pretty sure that expansionn came out after EotN. Just consider it death throes of a dried up and dying game haha (WoW) Nay the One and Only 22:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Marauder The armor of Marauder looks like a Norn--173.66.189.216 05:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Turai Ossa and Palawa Joko

They might not technically be Norn, but they're probably part-giant. Turai Ossa even has Giant Stomp. -- Gordon Ecker 04:44, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Norse

Do we mention anywhere the obvious inspiration for the Norn is the Norse people and Norse mythology? SystemisFlawed

Yeah, read the notes/trivia --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Tearh (talk).

Another bug?

Whenever I talk to a Norn at a shrine for the first time, while it's asking me to fight, if I activate a skill (enchantment) before I select "Bring it on" afterwards I am unable to select "Bring it on" and have to exit out the conversation and start it all over.--Worldly Tutor 01:22, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats usual if you move/ cast you do need to speak to the person again --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:92.0.224.223 (talk).

That happens with all NPC dialogue. -- ab.er.rant 09:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Who will use Norn in Guild Wars 2?

I know I am! Wouldn't that be awesome, a sythe wielding Norn? With a pet Crane? That's what I want to be! Unendingfear

they'd be focused warriors me thinks Zachariah Zuan 21:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC) they'd suffer in terms of elements, healing.

I am making one, was my first choice when I found out about them. My guess is they will be warriors, rangers and paragons. Seeing that most of the norn are warriors, Sif Shadowhunter is a ranger and Egil Fireteller is a paragon.--124.186.110.194 04:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I was just wondering if we will be able to turn into bears playing as a norn in guild wars 2? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:81.107.97.137 (talk).

It certainly seems so, with the teaser trailer, it showed a few bear-form norn walking around. Im betting they get to use other animal forms as well, as evidenced by the races video they released. Nay the One and Only 22:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The Elder Scrolls Nord?

I see a great resemblance here, not only in the name, but also in the large size, fair skin and hair color, and attributes of the two (warriors with a hightened defense against cold damage). Then again, Norse references are probably pretty common. 209.240.183.45 02:38, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah the similarities do stand out heavily if you're a big fan of both games, I even see people making typos all the time calling GW's Norns "Nord". Doubt it relates to TES in any way, just saying :D K2K 08:44, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Other Norn

Turai Ossa and Shiro are either part Norn or part Guild Lord... simple as that Zachariah Zuan. 23:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

hmmpf

Idk they just seem big humans to me O.o I wouldnt think they would fit as a separate race in gw2 but meh w/e we will see, I could say sylvari looks like sum gal too but meh thats just concept art.. - Wuhy 01:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Norn fan-group on facebook now online!

Hello eweryone! The unofficial fan-group for Norn on Facebook is now online! Please visit it here!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=223189977207&ref=mf#/group.php?gid=223189977207&ref=mf

Go Norn! :D Charocles 22:37, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

David Eddings

nice who thought of this note i love the belgariad. --SirThompson 11:42, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Eddings for the epic win!!! :D Nay the One and Only 22:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Naming

I can't find any evidence that the Norn are actually using the old Scandinavian naming method (That the son of Svend would be called Svendsen or Svensson) or if they are just passing the old family names along as we do today. So I changed the note to reflect what we know: Norn use Scandinavian names. --Manassas 08:40, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Olaf - Olafdottir(sounds like daughter)--Markisbeest 08:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but Olaf is called Olafson himself, so we don't know if she just enherited the family name (Olafdottir is the female form of Olafson in Icelandic) or if the old naming convention was used and she was named after being Olafs daughter. --Manassas 08:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

As the seventh Olaf in his family line, he bears the name with great pride—pride that is diminished by the fact that he has only a daughter of his own. He is the last Olaf Olafson: quoted from Olaf Olafson wiki page. This implies that names are taken from the father only, daughter had a link to Olafdottir.--Markisbeest 14:01, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but it doesn't give us an answer to whether the name is derived from Olaf every time (as of old) or they use Olafson/Olafdottir as their family name (as done today). --Manassas 15:05, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Same family, different last name. How is Oladson a family name when the same family member uses the last name Olafdottir? -- Konig/talk 18:10, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Because on Iceland they have male (son) and female (dottir) forms of their family names. --Manassas 06:21, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Tsk. Icelandic last names are patronymics rather than family names. If Magnus Ragnarsson calls his son Hofni, that son will be Hofni Magnusson, and Magnus' grandson will be (first name) Hofnisson. Cynique 09:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Which means that Icelanders still use the old naming tradition[1].(Just to clarify, though I have no idea what could have possibly made anyone think that we use gendered surnames.) So this would suggest that at least Olaf and his kin have been using the traditional naming convention, but it is worth noting that some Norn, as well as some historical Scandinavians, have used different naming conventions, traditional or otherwise. Some were known by earned titles or nicknames such as Erik the Red and Ragnar Hairy-cheeks. Also, What can we say about Eir Stegalkin in this matter? Who or what is Stegal and how many kin does he/she/it have? 74.100.56.221 02:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Nipple-lessness (males)

Male Norn do not have nipples that are visual. --Eclipse143 18:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Can you kill them?

The norn who stand by shrines always manage to have a small amount of health left after your fight. Is it possible to finish them off with damage over time or degeneration? Jackster 11:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

If they reach zero health then all effects end on them and they have full hitpoints. --File:User Chieftain Alex Chieftain Signature.pngChieftain Alex 11:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

kk Thanks 17:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)