User talk:Anja Astor/Archive 9

Support

Hey Anja, as my recent RFA has been successful I want to thank you for giving me your support and also for changing your vote, I will do my best not to disappoint you :) --Kakarot 02:44, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

(I am notoriously bad at answering on my own talk page! D:) I'm sure you wont disappoint me :) Have fun with the tools ;) - anja 19:38, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

sisters

did i get that right? you're not only related to bex, but helena is another sister of yours? o.O - Y0_ich_halt 20:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, me and Bex are not related. But Helena is my sister, that's correct :) - anja 20:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

lol, now i'm totally confused. i thought bex was your sister ?_? and... lemme guess, eloc is your brother :P - Y0_ich_halt 20:30, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

That would make Dir and Gaile my brothers too.. weird! - anja 20:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, every1 is related to every1 since we all came from the same place.. ^Teo^ 20:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

nope, i'm actually from Alpha Centauri. i've come to invade earth. alone. ya. - Y0_ich_halt 20:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

So, everyone are brothers and sister of the same planet and we all love each other, every man and woman on earth, except Y0. Feels good to be alone? :P - helena 22:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

the only difference is in relationship, i love you all, too! :D - Y0_ich_halt 22:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Now, everyone -- kumbaya, my lord, kumbaya.. -- Brains12 \ Talk 22:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Gaile is your brother? Wtf??!? lol — ク Eloc 貢 23:27, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone's crying lord, kumbaya. ^Teo^ 00:03, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Someone's singing lord, kumbaya. - helena 07:11, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

ROCK ON! (w8 thats not how it goes :S) --Shadowphoenix 08:12, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

lolz :p I honestly don't know how the song goes.. ^Teo^ 21:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm so happy lord, kumbaya. Oh, lord, kumbaya. - helena 22:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

thats lame --Cursed Angel 22:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

hah.. Come up with something better then.. ^Teo^ 05:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) dont listen to CA! its a conspiracy, man!--Raph Talky 19:30, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah dude, he's trying to bring us down, man.. Down let the system get you down! Peace love and understanding! ^Teo^ 19:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

...and more weed for all? - helena 04:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Scchh, keep it down.. ^Teo^ 05:18, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Lol i somehow read "System of a Down" here. —ZerphaThe Improver 12:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

lol wut? ^Teo^ 16:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

i'm more for some system of highs! - Y0_ich_halt 16:44, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

"System of a Down" always reminds me of this video. <3 - anja 16:46, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

To quote Comic book-guy from The Simpsons: "Worst video, ever..!" --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Teo (talk).

Those guys rock! - helena 20:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

System of a Down pwns. I own all of their CDs :D — ク Eloc 貢 01:48, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

System of a Down is terrible. Any band that has a song with only three words is terrible. Calor

It's not the song I like, it's their dance. It rocks. The song is bleh :P - helena 04:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Tenacious D is better than SoaD.. Now those guys rock! ^Teo^ 05:42, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

No way, System of a Down pretty much beats all. 3 of their albums debuted at #1 and they have 4 albums and 1 3x — ク Eloc 貢 15:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

theyre pretty overrated --Cursed Angel 15:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, all they do is shout and play some guitar and drums.. that's all.. ^Teo^ 17:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

And what's so wrong with that? lol. — ク Eloc 貢 00:34, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

What's NOT wrong with that? ^Teo^ 05:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Mallyx the Unyielding

Hey Anja, can you have a look at the Mallyx the Unyielding article specifically the species because as far as I know that info is wrong, this is also partly because as I've already reverted that change once before I'm unsure if I can do it again. Also according to the history and Special:Contributions/96.233.2.30 it appears that the IP has reverted more than once but I could just be mistaken. --Kakarot 18:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I left a note and reverted. I hope it's solved, but we'll see :) - anja 18:53, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks, couldn't think straight at the time; probably because I haven't eaten all day and it's almost 3pm :/. Anyway I thought best to check with someone else just to make sure. --Kakarot 19:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Eat! :P - anja 19:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

bow class articles

I noticed you created them now and moved the according bow skins. :) Do you think we should maybe merge these 5 bow class articles with the Bow article and make them redirect to the corresponding article sections? —ZerphaThe Improver 19:55, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Hm, yea, that might be an idea. They are pretty short atm :P - anja 20:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Make them {{disambig}}, for the bow models sake? Backsword 16:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

they are currently. We can either leave them as small articles with disambigs or change them to redirects. —ZerphaThe Improver 16:18, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Update

Curious as to what the exploit was and where you got the info. Backsword 19:08, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Official page :) - anja 19:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Why, that's cheating. Backsword 19:12, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Your point is? Calor 19:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

*ding*

You called? Calbot 20:32, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

→ Category:NPC stubs. Get going! - anja 20:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Whoa, Anja goes bossing! Go Anja, keep up the good work! - helena 12:04, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

thanks...

for reverting the vandalism. —ZerphaThe Improver 10:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, np. - anja 10:05, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

lol at that message :P poke | talk 10:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Damn google translate. What does it say Poke? Google just says "SCHÜTZ THE AUERHÜHNER BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO THE MOOR" — ク Eloc 貢 16:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

"schütz" = "save", "Auerhuhn" = w:Capercaillie poke | talk 16:11, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow, is Zerpha against the Capercaillie? lol — ク Eloc 貢 16:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

i'd think it was a reference to Moorhuhn, a more or less popular pc game... though those aren't capercaillies there. - Y0_ich_halt 16:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm neither really against the capercaillies, nor did my friends refer to Moorhuhn! xD It's an insider, they actually made fun of our biology schoolmistress.

explanation

She treats us like young lower graders, preached us what you all have to do in order to succesfully protect these poor little birds, as they were so selective and needed a calm environment as otherwise they wouldn't copulate. You get the feeling that she thinks she's the only one that knows about the entire situation. All people are digging peat, though it is at cost of the fens, and is't actually even good for the plants, but nobody knows about it. Or she supposed that we meet her with our bikes after school to drive into the forest and look at a specific plant.

She's actually friendly, but really strange... —ZerphaThe Improver 21:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Haha.. that's just.. weird. :P At least we keep our really weird (non-wiki-related) jokes off wiki! ;) - anja 21:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Do rickrolls count as wiki-related? :P —ZerphaThe Improver 21:40, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

rickrolls are highly wiki-related. - Y0_ich_halt 21:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Borderline ;) - anja 21:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Mask galleries

Anja, I'm a wee bit confused, sweetheart. Why are the mask galleries requiring a second mask image uploaded instead of just directing to the pre existing grey front mask previews. Okay I know that sentence was crap. (god, I need to work on my English skills). Anyway to clarify, what i mean is that we already have mask images on the relevant pages such as Gallery_of_female_mesmer_Primeval_armor, with a front mask image found at Image:Mesmer_Primeval_armor_f_gray_front_head.jpg, however the mask page instead of just directing to that image, directs to Image:Mesmer_Primeval_Mask_f.jpg, which seems like a laborious way of getting mask images. As the gallery is missing images which we actually have in the relevant armour gallery. I know I've explained myself in a really clumsy way, but I think you'll get what i mean. -- Salome 12:34, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yea, I know it seems silly. The thing is, I know me and Bex (and probably a few others) discussed this and somehow found good arguments for keeping it that way, but I can't for my life remember them now :/ I guess it could have to do with uploading mask pictures in any color, not just gray ones. By having the same name, we would "force" people to upload grey masks, while what we really want is just a clear view of the mask in any color, on the headgear main pages. Also, I guess we just wanted to keep our consistent naming scheme. Does that make sense?
I think of it this way: When no image exists, keep the image names different so we at least can get some image on the main page, even if it's not grey. When a grey one is uploaded, and no image is on the headgear main page, replace the Image:Mesmer_Primeval_Mask_f.jpg with Image:Mesmer_Primeval_armor_f_gray_front_head.jpg. If an image, that is not grey, is on the main headgear page, let the other name stay in the gallery so we get a grey one there. (Messy, I know.) - anja 12:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Cool that's what I have been doing. As you probably know im trying my best to get the galleries sorted as it bugs me having all these red links kicking about. I'm not sure that the grey mask picture thing is an issue anymore with the advent of the dye preview window. As honestly I think mask pictures taken on the dye preview window are best as it's the best ambient light in the game, thus you don't get issues like random lighting effects and odd glare/shadows. It also allows zooming in to a zoom which is hard to emulate anywhere else in game, but thats just my oppinion. I think once we get all the grey masks sorted out in the armour galleries then perhaps we should open the floor again to discuss if the mask galleries should be changed to redirect to the grey mask previews for conformities sake, but until then I agree with you in that following the naming convention will allow us to keep check of whats missing and what we've got and in which galleries it's been put. -- Salome 12:57, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Anja, weird question I know, but you wouldn't happen to have any of the following mesmer masks would you?: Luxon, Elite Kurzick, Elite Luxon, Vabbian, Norn or Asuran?? -- Salome 21:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

No, sorry. But I think my sis (Helena) has Luxon and I'm sure Bex should have at least one of those (Asuran) - anja 05:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks hun, I'll get in touch with them and see if they will lend me their masks for a few minutes to screen cap them. -- Salome 11:36, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Spanks

Anja Astor is using Protect on Koae Kea's user page! Kokuou 20:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. Anytime. ;) - anja 20:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

o_O I just realized I used my in-game name instead of mah GWW user name... o_O Kokuou 21:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome Templates

Drama? Nobody informed me...really sorry if i caused trouble. Just think it is a good thing if someone is new, has a "naked" user page and doesn't have the starters link or welcome. -- Silverleaf 21:41, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, they have caused trouble with users being offended at a late welcome. Not saying it has happened with those you are welcoming though, just wanted to inform you :) - anja 21:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

*cough* ~ Kurd 21:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Meh, didn't see this topic until after I responded on Silverleaf's. Moral of the story: keep topics on one page :P -- Brains12 22:01, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Happy that the users i welcomed haven't been offended. Usually search for new user pages created with red lines talk pages. Thought i was save in that case :). -- Silverleaf 22:25, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

User page

Hmm, since you're the only one I know online (I think), could you give a few impressions and opinions of my userpage's new look? It's not dramatic, but it's cleaner. Have at it. --People of Antioch 05:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused :P I had to look three times to be sure that you only moved two parts to another place.. poke | talk 08:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Definitely cleaner, and easier on the eye. I like it :) - anja 13:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Kurzick Duelist

Since the page has been split already, should I add {{disambig}} to it, mark it for deletion, or leave it as is. Just seems kind of redundant imho --Shadowphoenix 15:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It's linked a lot, so I would say disambig. -- Brains12 \ talk 16:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It's not an obvious name, so a disambig seems unnecessary. Would be better to make the links point to the right place, imo. I'd tag it for deletion. - anja 16:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok lets move this to the discussion page to gather others opinion, since I am not sure :P --Shadowphoenix 16:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good. :) - anja 16:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Your Page

I so love your page, its simple yet elegant & professional. --MageMontu 19:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Too much purple. -- Brains12 \ talk 19:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

lol true, but i still like it :P --MageMontu 19:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, MageMontu :) - anja 19:39, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Delete or not to delete that is the question!

Hey Anja, sorry to bother you but as you were the first one to remove the deletion tag from this image I was wondering why you had originally removed it? It was re-added two days after you did the revert and so I removed it since I figured you had a reason for doing so but it's been re-added yet again; this is probably why I dislike that Orphaned Image tag from GWWT, especially considering I've seen images uploaded and tagged for deletion within a matter of days because they weren't presently used (sorry to dump that semi-rant on your talk page). So anyway what are we going to do considering it's only been just over a month since it was uploaded? --Kakarot 14:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

My first reason for removing it was that it was tagged so close to original upload. Since it's uploaded as a sig image, it's natural that it wont be used until the person talks, if you know what I mean :) And at that point I didn't see any talk page comments done after the upload. I think we should just notify the user that it's tagged and ask if they are going to use it, that's the simple solution.
I agree about the orphaned images thing, when it has just been a day it doesn't really qualify as orphaned, imo. I wish we could make a list based on orphaned images, but with the extra criteria that it has to have been there for at least 1 month (2 months? 6 months? something). Then we can see which really wont be used. - anja 14:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok I've left a message on his talk page :) Also this image is a perfect example of what I mean about orphaned images although it's been tagged as speedy redundant, it's only been two hours since it was uploaded. --Kakarot 15:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I believe I tagged both of those, is there a problem? :-/ I try not to tag anything for orphan within the month (or at the very extreme, near the end of it's life of 30 days)--People of Antioch 15:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried a while ago to bring something up on GWWT:IMAGES, seeing as it affects every image on the wiki, but no responses so far.. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Kakarot, I did not have to search but I did it, and found that within some seconds ;) Also please don't mix up orphaned images and redundant (speedy) images :) poke | talk 15:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

PoA, not really a problem, besides that it was tagged a bit early the first time, so we got into some kind of revert dance with it.
Brains, apparently I don't watch that page, let's take it there instead. - anja 15:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Whoops, guess this happens when I don't sleep ... --Kakarot 15:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

lol, I think that happens kinda often that you don't sleep (or eat) in the last days :P poke | talk 15:55, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

wikify rv

why? D: If it's only wikified once, it's imo even better than without. What should be bad about this? Blue font doesn't bother anyone, does it? —ZerphaThe Improver 17:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I just think a blue link every other word disrupts reading, that's why I mostly revert those things. I tried to check so all those were already linked in the article, so it should be one link there already. Just a multitude that irritates me. Although, if more people agree with you, I'll stop :) - anja 17:59, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

i thought it's overall wiki concensus that the same word isn't linked noticeably more than once on every page. - Y0_ich_halt 18:05, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Guild_Wars_Wiki:Formatting/General#Wiki_links :) - Bex 00:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

oh, i knew about that rule. but though i'm not a fan of it, i actually asked because i didn't notice that these words were already mentioned on the article once. sry, i was a bit negligent. :P —ZerphaThe Improver 00:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, I wouldn't be surprised if I actually missed some, I didn't check that closely :) - anja 00:51, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Blanking

Thanks for getting the section blanking on my page. I got excited, then I saw it was a vandal.  :-/ Thanks again. --People of Antioch 14:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

^^ - anja 16:35, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Elementalist head gear galleries

Anja I need your help. I'm looking at the elementalist headgear galleries and getting a wee bit confused. All the other Eyes and Auras have their own individual page whereas the vabbian eyes don't. Now i understand this is probably due to the vabbian eyes being tied to one armour set instead of being tied to the entire campaign like the auras were tied to factions. However it does make them significantly less visible than their none-prestige counterparts. SO I suppose what I'm asking is should we go ahead and make a head gear page for each of the vabbian eyes in the same way that we have a page for each other eye and aura, such as Elementalist Storm Aura ??? -- Salome 11:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Addendum: I also think the elementalist headgear page format needs changed a wee bit. This is how it stands now: Elementalist headgear and this is what I'm proposing we change it to: Proposed change. Which do you prefer? -- Salome 12:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, first of all, I don't think they need separate pages, since that would duplicate info that could be kept on one page without much confusion. We could instead link like we do with the other eyes, but instead to the Vabbian page, like [[Elementalist Vabbian armor|Flame]] and [[Gallery of female elementalist Vabbian armor|Female]] and Male respectively, for each eye, which makes the galleries easier to reach.
Second, I like your design change apart from the linking, as I just mentioned how I would like it. Nightfall prestige art makes more sense, and we don't need to have a "Vabbian eyes" link if we link above the picture like we do with the others. I also noticed the naming table needs an update for Eye of the North. :) - anja 14:53, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yup i see your point. Only problem then is the fact that we have no place to put side views of the vabbian eyes. As if we put side views of all 5 eyes on the vabbian armour page its going to make the page HUGE, but all the other head pieces have side pictures. We also then have an issue with the fact that all the other elementalist head gears are mentioned in the Template:Elementalist_armor_nav except for the vabbian ones. I think a possible idea is to take your first point e.g redirecting the type of eye back to the vabbian page [[Elementalist Vabbian armor|Flame]], but instead of redirecting the male and female ones as you suggested, [[Gallery of female elementalist Vabbian armor|Female]], instead direct them to [[Gallery of female elementalist Vabbian Everlasting Eye|Female]], so that we can at least make individual pages for vabbian eyes in the same way we have for every other headpiece, e.g Gallery of female elementalist Elementalist's Aura. What do you think? Either that or we can try and work out a way of formatting the vabbian armour pages to incorporate all 5 eyes and their side views. EDIT: to help clarify what i mean ive updated my Proposed change page to reflect what i mean, incorporating your first suggestion on the linking but keeping the second as is. -- Salome 15:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it would work. I was thinking we might do a Gallery of female Vabbian eyes instead, so we collect all of the eyes and their side views there, though I'm not that opposed to having one gallery for each eye. It just seems too little info to warrant their own page. :) Apart from that idea, I think your proposal looks great. - anja 16:00, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree completely with you about making 1 page for all 5 eyes, as I too feel its too little info to warrent its own page, however to keep the formatting constant does that then mean we should merge the existing 6 aura galleries into 1 aura gallery for all 6 and do the same for the none-vabbian eye galleries also? -- Salome 16:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmm.. Do you have a good name for such galleries? With Vabbian it's easier, since we can call them Vabbian eyes. But what are the others, just eyes and auras? (So gallery of female elementalist eyes and gallery of female elementalist auras?) I don't mind having them separate, but if you find a good name I think merging them could be good too :) - anja 16:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I think the aura onees should be easy enough to name as your suggested name of "gallery of female elementalist auras" seems to work well enough for that, for the eyes however it might be a bit more tricky due to vabbian being eyes also. Maybe gallery of female elementalist standard eyes, doesnt really trip off the tongue though does it? It's a shame we cant call them tyrian eyes as they are available in elona too. Sigh... I'll try and think of some collective term for them. I'm sure between us we can come up with something. -- Salome 16:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay I've updated all the Elementalist_headgear to reflect what we discussed. I've only done the female pics thus far, i'm gonna start working on the male pics tonight but my problem if that i wont be able to supply Vabbian eye male pictures as I can buy all the other eyes again (as i can get them for 15 gold each from shing jea and ascalon) but it's a pain in the knackers getting to the bazaar and then investing in 5 eyes for 100k ish just for pics, so I'm gonna have to leave those pics to someone else. Which is a pity as i wanted to have the whole thing done. The sooner they make a gender change tonic the better then i dont have to fanny about with remaking pve chars over and over just to screen cap the different sexes. :) Anyhoo tell me what you think of the updated ele page please. I pulled together the individual galleries of eyes into conglomarate galleries as you suggested. Hope that's what you had in mind. P.S. GL for tomorrow -- Salome 21:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) just a quick question before i get started on the male galleries for the ele head gears, why do we divide head gear by gender for eles, when their head gear isn't gender specific? A glacial eye looks like a glacial eye regardless if its on a male or female toon and the same applies for all the eyes/auras. Is it not just wasted space? -- Salome 18:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Might still be nice to see looks and placement for each gender. I guess the faces aren't identical for males and females, so they might be placed differently. That's why I want to see both, at least - anja 16:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Notice - Exams

→ moved from User talk:Anja Astor/Notice

Good luck with the exams. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 07:51, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

now let's break things as soon as she's gone! --Cursed Angel 08:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

moved and good luck :) poke | talk 09:58, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) - anja 14:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with the exams Anja :) --Kakarot 14:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed you online, so how did your final exam go? also yay you can now enjoy a long summer break! -- Salome 13:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

It went great, thanks! It feels soo nice. I will take some more time off wiki I think and just rest and relax, and get it into my head I have 2 months off school now. :D - anja 13:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

my talk page

Concerning your message on my talk page:

Anja, no offense love, as I do have alot of respect for you on this wiki, but i'm getting bored of respected users constantly being told off for their comments while trolls are left to do what they wish until they cause a drama. This wiki has become about not antagonizing trolls, instead of just banning them and letting everyone else get on with life.

Considering the last time this fella spoke to regina, concerning piplups, he told regina to go fuck herself, also seeing as his post was clearly troll fodder, it seemed like a fair enough question to ask why he isn't banned. Also considering that most of his interaction on the wiki is with skakid in which he just basically slags people off, it also seemed a fair enough question. Added to that it was hardly a personal attack. Asking why someone isn't banned yet in light of their past history of being rude and obnoxious to other users is a fair question. I think if you want an example of a personal attack you'll find that calling someone a nigger is a personal attack not to mention racist to boot.

On a side note as a sysop why are you also not telling him that his piplup is in contravention of policy due to copyright and it doesn't redirect to the persons page which again is in contravention.

I'm not trying to get at you here Anja, as you know i have alot of time for you, I'm just getting sick of the current admin attitude of trying to avoid conflict with trolls by telling off users they know will pay heed to them instead of focusing their energies on actually getting rid of the troll himself. The fact that it took me 48 hours to finally decide to upload images on to the male Mesmer monument armour as i was actually worried that it could cause drama with Kougar and that an admin was going to tell me off for antagonizing Kougar is a sad state of affairs, especially when the pic i finally did upload is of a clearer quality than what was their previously. The fact of the matter is that alot of helpful users, who care about this wiki and the sysops, are walking on eggshells on this wiki as they are trying not to say anything which could be construed as antagonizing a troll, while the trolls can say anything they like as they don't care what people on this wiki think of them. The sysops in response to this instead of targeting the trolls actions are instead patrolling those of us who do care and we're being told to change our actions as the sysops know that we are the easiest ones to appeal too.

Honestly my inquiry as to why he isn't banned yet, was in no way deserving of the line "you're still a nigger who needs to shut the fuck up", and your wee post of "Responding to attacks with more attacks doesn't make yours better. Please avoid them" was just plain offensive. Mine was an idle, all be it not particularly polite, inquiry as to why a known troll isn't banned, his was an out and out racist attack which should have got him an instant ban, not a statement from you, which although trying to be balanced in what you said to both parties, ignored the fact that what both parties said wasn't balanced in the first instance. Fair enough i might have been deserving of a wee slap on the wrists for my comment but he deserved a bloody ban.

Sysops need to stop equating giving equal warning as the same as being fair, if someone says something minor and someone says something vastly more insulting then the gravitas of their actions should be reflected in the severity of the sysops response. Honestly i think that sysops need to actually take a stance instead of just avoiding confrontation all the time and letting the trolls run riot./endrant

I don't actually expect to get anywhere with that wee rant, as whats more likely to happen as that everyone is just going to say i'm wrong and have some minor flaming but we'll see. Again in closing I would just like to say this isn't an attack on you Anja, it's just that i'm getting generally annoyed with the tendency of many of the sysops , not all, to jump on helpful users instead of the trolls. -- Salome 14:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

First of all, Tab was banned for the last "violation" and it has now worn off. Thus, I thought your comment was uncalled for, it's not a fair question. It might be a realistic question, but it is not a fair question. He got banned, lived with it, and is now back. That's fine.
Secondly, his Piplup image is NOT something to bring up on Reginas talk page. I'm not protecting him, I'm "protecting" Regina. Apart from that, it has been discussed already on the image's talk page if it is ok or not, and last I checked it seemed ok. Bring your concerns up there if you disagree.
In regards to his image not redirecting to his page, I had no idea. I tried to deal with an aggravating situation, not a signature image. Sorry, but I prefer to take things one at a time. Feel free to bring that up yourself on the noticeboard if it irks you that much. It is not "my job as a sysop", my job involve blocking and deleting, everyone can inform anyone about our policies.
I understand your concern about nice users being afraid of antagonizing, since they get told off. I agree that is how it looks, or are, sometimes. My reasoning this time is that he outlasted his ban fine, then posts something new and at once get provoked by someone (doesn't matter who). In that light, I personally prefer to just warn the previously banned user, to let them calm down, and give the provoking user a heads up that the comment wasn't appreciated. That's my view, and that's why I acted the way I did. If you don't think that's enough, feel free to bring it to another sysop's attention.

I do understand that you don't want to attack me specifically, but this is what is driving me away from wiki. Everything and anything is HUGE and needs to be adressed in as many ways that there are people discussing. - anja 14:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree anja that everything gets blown out of proportion on the wiki and the last thing i want is for you to leave the wiki, as i said i do like you alot (you being one of the few people who I respect to the degree that I post on their talk pages to ask for comment's on the things i'm doing) and I honestly would hate to see you leave the wiki, it's just I spend so much time biting my tongue on this wiki with some of the trolls you see about as I don't want to accused of feeding said troll and it's not so much the fact that you gave me warning which tipped me over the edge so to speak, it's more the warning you gave to him, which made me sound like the troll and him just defending himself. I understand you wishing to protect Regina's talk page and in my own way that's what i was trying to do too, as the last time he was on her page he told her to "f*** off" as you know, and his post had the same tone as the last one, an obvious troll post hidden by a thin layer of supposed humour, but you are right I shoudl have taken it up with him on his talk page about his repeated pointless troll posts on regina's talk page. Also in light of me saying "in your role as sysop..." i didnt mean that in isolation, I just meant taken in context he was replying to me actually saying something about his piplup image being in violation of copyright, (which i'm legally right on unless Nintendo has released the image into the public domain which i don't think they have), so seeing as his insult was in response to that i just thought it might have been apt in your response to him, to actually tell him that i was right in what i said. However as you said that's not your job and i apologise for that comment, also i wasn't aware that their had been discussion about the image prior which had reached a flawed conclusion that the image was not in breach of copyright. In conclusion once again i would just like to say Anja, im not trying to attack you, as i have said repeated times you are one of the users i respect most on the wiki. I'm just getting so tired of biting my tongue with trolls. Again i didn't mean for you to defend your actions in this instance it was a more a general rant about the wiki at the mo, please don't take it to heart as i truly would be upset to see you leave the wiki. -- Salome 15:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

If you ignore the trolls, the sysops don't have to tell you to ignore the trolls. In case you haven't noticed, they don't last very long anyway. -Auron 15:11, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I know Auron and I know both you and anja are right, but it's just at times it's very hard to ignore them. Get's to the point where i just want to give persistent ones a thump. -- Salome 15:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

And everyone thinks higher of those that can do it in a civilized manner, don't you think? :) I respect you too, and I too need a reminder to be "civil" once in a while. Let's not make this issue bigger than what it needs to be, I think we both understand each other now? - anja 20:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Indeed Anja :). Sorry for venting on your talk page and making needless wiki-drama, it's just been one of those days. Anyhoo on a completely unrelated note, how did your exams go? -- Salome 21:27, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Two finished, one to go. The ones I've done has been ok and great respectively, so I'm hoping for great for the last one. Have a day to rest tomorrow and then I will write the exam first thing Monday morning. After that, summer break until August! :D - anja 21:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

GL sweetheart, you'll be in my thoughts on monday. I have every faith you'll do great though. What's your exam on? -- Salome 23:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

english, phonetics. poke | talk 23:26, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks poke, I'm impressed by anyone who can speak more than 1 language. Just a shame that 95% of us in the UK don't. I used to speak Flemish/Dutch semi-fluently due to me living there for 14 months, but to my shame I've completely forgot it all since returning to the UK 5 years ago. :( -- Salome 01:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WOOT! UK!!--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 03:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Election

Just thought I'd let you know that Dirigible has nominated you for the Guild Wars Wiki:Elections/2008-06 bureaucrat election. (Aiiane - talk - contribs) 00:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I noticed. :) - anja 08:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

I know you are tired, but...

I'd really love your input on this I would like to implement it now rather than waiting for the policy to change. I'm more than happy to do the tagging of existing pages. Oh.. and let me know which box you prefer, if you would be so kind :D-- Wynthyst 23:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Bah, forgot to talk about the box. I think I like the ribbon/medal better, looks more like some kind of reward. :)
Btw, both the router and a network card has gone crazy here, so I will be quite inactive this week too. :( - anja 08:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

It's cool, I hope you get things straightened out, I know how it can suck to have stuff broken. I agree that just adding the category would work as well as actually adding the box, but Plingggggg worked so hard on the image :( Fighterdoken wants to make the current guild tag/box all inclusive w/variables, which I guess could work, but it doesn't seem like as much of a 'reward'. Think anyone would have issues if I started adding the category to the pages on Anet's Notable list?-- Wynthyst 08:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Apart from double work if we implement the tag, no. So go ahead if you don't mind double work, imo :) - anja 10:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Sweden FTW!!!

They lost to Russia? WTF?? Guus Hiddink isn't that good (Dunno where else to whine about this). ~ Kurd 11:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. :P Apparently good enough to beat us? ;) - anja 12:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

aaaw... I soo wanted to face Sweden in the quarter finals :(. O well guess Pavlyuchenko had other ideas. ~ Kurd 15:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Image Policy question

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:Ninjas_In_The_Sky/I_Like_Potato_Pie <- here I used a picture, but I don't know how to rename it and what name to use (there was a policy that it had to start with my name, right?). plz help me, sincerely Ninjas In The Sky 17:25, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It would be called User Ninjas In The Sky I Like Potato Pie Pic1.jpg, just click that link to upload it under the correct name :) --Kakarot 17:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Just reupload that image to Image:User Ninjas In the Sky I Like Potato Pie.jpg or something like this. Check the user space box when uploading so the name will be validated when you are uploading the image. The policy which describes this is Guild Wars Wiki:Image use. poke | talk 17:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

OK ty, but the image I uploaded before this talk I won't be using. How do I tag it for deletion, wise wiki lords? Ninjas In The Sky 17:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It's done :) --Kakarot 17:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Tyvm :) Anja didn't help so let's eat her alive! Ninjas In The Sky 17:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Anja was probably too busy on one of her separate wiki identities. Calor 17:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Calor: +1 - anja 18:35, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Page

Brum brum? Huh? Calor 23:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Anja's trying to be a motorcycle. --People of Antioch 01:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Baby Mario on a motorcycle. - anja 08:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL! :D poke | talk 12:00, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I approve of this userpage. Backsword 12:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Because it's shorter than yours? Calor 14:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Because Anja's not compensating for something else. Unlike some other people. --People of Antioch 18:07, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

We'll Miss you! :'(

*coughcough*notreally*coughcough* Kidding →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 06:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Uh.. well on July the 11th →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 06:51, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. :P Should have missed me until now! - anja 09:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I did poke | talk 10:09, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Aww! :D - anja 10:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

... -- Brains12 \ talk 10:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

I already told you I missed you -- Wynthyst 11:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

You did :) I love you all. Love all around. :D - anja 11:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

...-- Brains12 \ talk 11:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Damn this is what happens when I sleep, I miss important stuff. Maybe I should stop sleeping? Of course we missed you Anja
Also what's with the ...'s Plingggggg? --Kakarot 13:25, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

No Kakarot... You better sleep (and eat, and whatever) before you forget or break something again :P poke | talk 13:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha very funny Poke. I don't think I've broke the wiki yet, well there was that one time but of course there's obviously a better explanation for what happened that time. --Kakarot 13:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Try spacecakes in Holland(or The Netherlands, if you prefer that).. I've heard somewhere that they're delicious.. :p ^Teo^ 13:50, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed they are, Teo. poke | talk 16:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

i think Plingggggg is disturbed by the hippy-like throwing around of the term, "I love you" but i'm hoping that by love you mean agape and not eros--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 16:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

He should be used to it by now. - anja 17:27, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

... -- Brains12 \ talk 17:28, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't seem so, Anja :| poke | talk 17:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Are you sure? - anja 17:56, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, hehatechus :P poke | talk 18:29, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Nay, hehatechoo, imo :p Calor 22:03, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Wild cats

Hi, the Anja. I was looking at this old cat, and it seems to have been mainly you and BeX involved, so I thought I would ask BeX about it. BeX, was this ever completed? There's still two articles in it. Is there anything more that needs doing bfore closing it? Backsword 01:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I totally forgot about that category. I think everything else was updated, and I'll put those two on my todolist for this weekend. :) I think some names on the attribute bonus page are out of date, but I suspect Maeko is up to date already. - anja 06:30, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

can I have your opinion please?

Hey Anja, I didn't know who to write to, but could you take a look at this page and give your opinion please? Validate Armors. I do have the impression I placed a new suggestion there, and that my post has not been read properly to understand its content. If I am wrong, I don't mind it does get deleted, just want another opinion. Thx -- (Tribina / talk) 21:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Put a note on the talk page there :) - anja 23:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a million :) -- (Tribina / talk) 04:53, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

you about?

hey hun you about at the mo? -- Salome 09:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Should be cleaning, anything urgent? - anja 10:33, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Nah hun it all got sorted. Oh by the war has the wiki got an IRC, as i keep hearing about it, but cant remeber where its located. -- Salome 12:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah great :) You can find us on Gamesurge (irc.gamesurge.net), #gww channel :). - anja 12:39, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

But you need an IRC client first I suggest Vortec IRC, it has a very clean interface and it is free! You can dowload it here --Shadowphoenix 14:47, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you on their payroll or something :/? Anyway... there are quite a lot of free clients (and whether or not they are clean really lies on how fussy you are). I use Chatzilla myself -- because when you use Chatzilla, nothing can go wrong! Chatzilla, paving the way to a happy future. -- Brains12 \ talk 15:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you on their payroll or something :/? I use XChat 2, just to put my two cents in. Calor 15:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Apart from that you don't even need a IRC client... poke | talk 15:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

You can always shout. No need for a router or a computer then, even. Saves money :p Calor 15:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Apropos router, Anja, get a new one now! poke | talk 15:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Yea yea.. some day. :P - anja 21:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

What do you mean Poke? --Kakarot 22:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

IRC insider.. :P - No, Anja, as soon as possible! As long as the warranty period is still active! poke | talk 22:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Appearance Galleries

Thanks for removing the redundant subtitle on the Warrior Appearance Gallery. That was left over from my sandbox. Unfortunately I used it as a template so it's on ALL 20 of the appearance galleries. I'll go clean them up now. Luke1138 17:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your guidence Master Admin

I am a noob here, still learning! Igorthetroll 09:57, 6 July 2008 (UTC)