User talk:Auron/Archive 13

This is an archive of my talk page from 21 April 2009 to 27 June 2009. Please don't edit it; leave comments and messages on my talk page.

sup nigga

how it be--Metroid 17:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

its gud hows u? -Auron 02:06, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

werd 2 ur mutha.-- anguard 02:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

you aren't a bro, go away -Auron 02:11, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Auron, you're in hawaii, you have brahs, not bros. ~Shard 02:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Shard is correct. -- Halogod35 02:32, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

My IQ is higher than a dish of soap, thus the "brahs" have no interest in hanging out with me. Sorry to disappoint, but I still have bros. -Auron 02:57, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

You hang out with all 3 of the black guys on the island? ~Shard 03:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

SUP BRAH HEARD YOU WERE A FAN OF THE BROS THATS COOL BRAH IT HAPPENS ALL PART OF THE BIG GUYS PLAN JUST DONT GET TOO CLOSE --Sup brah 03:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

lolkids Pika Fan 04:29, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

lolimoldenoughtodrink ~Shard 01:12, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

>8<

Spider pride?-- anguard 16:12, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

old meme is old -Auron 02:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Blarg, just found it recently :/ -- anguard 02:13, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks more like a fly. King Neoterikos 05:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Looks more like your mum. -- scourge 06:00, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

^ -Auron 06:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Y'know, it kinda does. King Neoterikos 06:50, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Yo dawg

So i herd u liek guild wars, so i put a balance in your meta so you can bspike while i rspike...

You're a fucking retard. Do it right. 69.109.164.153 03:59, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

doinitrite. 82.34.128.19 15:14, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Mudspieks? --Star Weaver 21:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

The deletion of ArenaNet:Skill feedback/Monk/Ray of Judgment

The deletion of this page seems to have been a mistake. I was the sole participant in the deletion discussion, and opposed deletion because it would orphan the archive subpage. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:42, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Those pages had been listed for deletion for almost a month. If you feel consensus is on your side (as it generally is when nobody opposes you for 3+ weeks), you are free to remove the delete tag. If the page was wrongly deleted, you're free to restore it and remove the delete tag. -Auron 10:41, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Why not just also delete the talk and talk archive? 69.109.191.246 23:17, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I've restored it, I just wanted to run it by you first. In response to the anonymous poster's comment, deleting a page which fails to meet the standard or speedy deletion criteria would violate the deletion policy, if you have a problem with one of the wiki's policies, you can propose a revision. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 00:43, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

I guess my thought was more along the lines of "if the archive is the only problem and the main talk is (I believe) scheduled for deletion anyway, why not delete the archive/propose said archive for deletion at the same time?". 69.109.191.246 01:03, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Anyhting new while I was away?

Well? -- NUKLEAR IIV 17:35, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Some more crazy people and a bunch of licensing bullshit where people who don't even know what license means talk for weeks about what to do with suggestions. And since the community obviously doesn't need any kind of a leader figure, they'll never figure out what the fuck to do. If they somehow manage to do so, it'll be a halfass compromise between the people still interested in arguing about it for months on end, so basically it'll be skewed to say the least.

There's also HH Leader, he's pretty amusing as usual. -Auron 00:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi so I've put in some detail about the GW Ladder API. User:Otacon/GWLadderAPI. Any suggestions on what to do next? --Otacon 21:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You could throw it up on GWW:RFC and see if people are interested in making a mainspace article about it. -Auron 01:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Umm... what HH means in this case? Healing Hands? --Boro 09:51, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, You posted something on Optime's Talk Page about Fool of the Guild 3 Months Ago.

Hi, It was wrong of Optime to retalliate but fool did ruin his pages, he logged off and did it on his I.P Address (92.2.124.137) and has been messing up his pages for a while now. If you check the I.P (92.2.124.137) its proof that he did it and he keeps naming optimes pages with his char. So fool has been messing around with his pages. -- Yo Jm 07:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything I should know about that didn't happen 3 months ago? -Auron 08:05, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Well yes you may or may not remember but you posted something about optime runing fool's user page because he messed up his, and you disagreed because you said he hadnt touched them, but he used his I.P to messw them up. -- Yo Jm 08:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Okay, let me rephrase... is there anything I should know about that didn't happen three months ago? -Auron 11:29, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh sorry, no :P -- Yo Jm 11:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

k, just clarifying. I can't exactly block the IP for edits made three months ago, you see, since he obviously hasn't continued the vandalism. A block at this point would be neither punitive nor preventative. -Auron 11:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok :) -- Yo Jm 12:03, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Page Restore

User:Hershey Kisser Please restore the old page - sorry for not creating an account sooner. I had a friend create the page for me. Thanks. Hershey Kisser 15:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. -Auron 15:20, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Technically, I broke 1RV

Wanna ban me here too? Karate Jesus 18:38, 21 May 2009

No, not really. You've already been warned. I will, however, request that you keep personal feuds and poor attempts at wikidrama away from GWW. PvX is that way ---->

-Auron 18:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Aww, why don't you want to fight with me here too? Dang. I'm disappointed. Karate Jesus 19:07, 21 May 2009

re. lena

cheers, was about to do it myself, but was a little hesitant as I was one of the ones he was trolling and didn't want it to be personal. --Lemming 22:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I was unaware that "thinking your jokes are funny" was against the rules :P Learn something new every day. ~Shard 22:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

There was more too it than that...he had rick roll links on Lemming's page and said some kinda mean things to Shadowphoenix. If you go through and read his contributions, you'll see why Auron did what he did.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

He did it because he is a biased admin who can't remove his lips from ANet's member. Misery 04:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Wasabi's not a sysop... --adrin 04:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

in b4 b& for personal attacks, lol --Jette 05:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Please Jette, no personal attacks, I don't appreciate it. Misery 05:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, Auron saved me from having to walk away from the encounter with blood-stained hands. Cheers Auron. — Jon Lupen 06:03, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

<quote>Well, Auron saved me from having to walk away from the encounter with blood-stained hands. Cheers Auron.</quote> I feel as though Lupen just personally attacked my well-being. Where do I report him? He just made a threat on my life by saying this. I would like to file a report, please. Contact me on my page for the details on how to report. Thank you.-Lena talk 07:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Your trolling is bad... please stop before you seriously injure yourself and others --Shadowphoenix 07:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Trolling? What the fuck? This guy just threatened to severely harm my well being how in the hell am I trolling!? I want this taken care of and I need it to be handled as swiftly as possible. Where do I go? Stop trying to flame me, Shadow, and just tell me. -Lena talk 07:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I found it. I have submitted my report. Thanks for the help... I only pray it's taken care of. -Lena talk 07:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Cool story bro. Misery 07:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

lena, you clearly need to calm down and stop taking everything so seriously.--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 07:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Since when in God's name is a threat against one's life something to "calm down" about? Last time I checked the law, if you make a threat against someone's life, and, if they push charges, you're going to jail. I take VERBAL THREATS against me VERY seriously. I've already reported him for this and we will see what happens in due time. -Lena talk 07:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

and thats what i mean by taking everything so seriously...--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 08:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Then in all out respect for you I would pity the day you would ever become an officer or join the Military. I can give you hundreds, if not thousands, of links on the internet of when someone reported someone for threatening their life and nothing was done aobut it and the person who made the threat ACTUALLY went and did it. Please do not try and preach to me about "calming down" and "don't take things so seriously" when verbal threats are made; I lost a cousin over this exact reason. Something needs to be done, it is STRICLY against the Wiki policy and a major violation of it to physicaly threaten others. -Lena talk 08:05, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

He clearly meant stained with his own blood from tearing his own hair out in frustration. Misery 08:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Bro, he could go on a killing-rampage if you're not careful. This is srs bsns. King Neoterikos 08:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

"blood stained hands" does not have to be taken literally, and it often isn't. he probably meant that he may have violated NPA or another such policy and would have been banned. "blood stained hands" can simply mean a violation of a rule which is obvious for everyone to see.--Sum Mesmer Guy contribs 08:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

i lol'd for like 5 minutes at this section -Auron 08:50, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Me, too? I am back, Auron. I am back and stronger than ever. RAHHHHHH!!!! -Lena talk 08:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

And I thought I was the overly serious one that jumped to the extreme conclusions too often. Sum Mesmer Guy has it right. Things were about to get messy, and may yet again. Not a bloody, gorey mess with dead or hurt people, but wiki messy. — Jon Lupen 15:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

HEY. PAY ATTENTION.

THIS IS THE INTERNET. THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT BODY. THERE ARE NO LAWS. YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS EXCEPT THOSE GIVEN TO YOU BY YOUR ISP AND/OR THE SITE YOU'RE CURRENTLY VISITING. YOU CAN'T GO TO JAIL FOR ANYTHING YOU SAY BECAUSE THERE IS NO JAIL TO GO TO.

People need to fucking think before they try to comment on rules.

-- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 20:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Armond mc seriousblade is serious. --Trapinch 20:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Caps lock is cruise control for t3h cool. -Lena talk 20:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Aw, you guys make me feel right at home. It's like I'm trolling LJ all over again. --Jette 03:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Auron

why are there always women edrama-ing all over your talk page? --Metroid 02:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Refer to the comment above me for the perfect example why.152.226.7.205 02:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't ever randomly pm me and not get to the point. I'm still curious as to what you had to say to me that was so important that you took the time out of your busy schedule to pm me. Alas, my curiosity remains. With much love. Have a nice day #____^ --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.75.64.227 (talk).

I think it's because of this weird thing I call the "MMO competence social magnetic field effect." Which is a fancy way of saying when you're actually not sucky at an online game, other people will do the weirdest shit to get your attention in hopes you'll play with them. I was in a silver-trim guild for a couple weeks because I knew a guy and my old guild kicked me for calling the leader on his bullshit, and they let me use their AB guy until he got over it. Anyway, a bunch of weirdos started talking to me and asking me to join their stupid >r3 HA teams like I was going to help them win or something. When they noticed my cape change it stopped. Most of the people I speak with who display their titles say it happens to them too. I think people on the internet are freaks.

@GNLA:He PMd me in-game once too, but forgot what he had to say by the time he figured out what my IGN was. I was thinking about making myself more accessible, but then Shard got banned and decided that was a bad idea. I'd call for a violent revolution against the fascist oppressors but something tells me Rodgort's doesn't work on admins anyway. --Jette 03:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Important

Hey Auron, I accidentally the whole wiki... -- scourge 08:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I accidentally your whole mom. --Trapinch 09:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Your mum accidentally my whole wiki. -- scourge 20:47, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

hey you guys

stop posting so much useless shit on my talk page. thanks in advance. -Auron 10:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

But we want you to feel loved and important. :( -Lena talk 14:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Auron is loved and important, now shut up and gtfo. --Trapinch 14:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

No Auron, just No. -- scourge 20:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Are you playing in this tourney? Or are you still playing WoW? King Neoterikos 01:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't play Guild Wars of my own volition at all. I only sign on when friends ask me to do something with them. -Auron 03:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. King Neoterikos 06:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Yo dawg (2)

Your attention for this please: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User_talk:Uchiha_Lena/more_proof_arena.net_biasdly_banned_me. I don't think a word like "twat" is strong (just as weak as "poor guy"?) enough to ban oni , let alone perma-ban. Dark Morphon 22:30, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi, less half-truths, more full-truths. You're fucking stupid, begone, twat.Pika Fan 01:28, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

According to wiktionary, it's fairly inoffensive in British English, but quite vulgar in American English. As an active bureaucrat, I'm not comfortable taking a position on any specific blocks, however I will restate my general position on indefinite blocks. I feel that any long-term or indefinite blocks should generally be subject to some form of formal review process, such as arbitration, with only the most clear-cut long-term blocks (such as banning a spambot account) avoiding review. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:53, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Oni's billion blocks are maybe sort of a hint that he's doing something wrong. If he keeps doing what he's always done, he will always get what he's always gotten - more blocks. Lemming felt that Oni had used up his last chance, and I'm not really gonna say he was wrong on that call. -Auron 03:41, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

K. Thx anyway. Dark Morphon 06:11, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

ORLY? THEN I SHALL VANDA..No, I wont. you're too awesome. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:83.249.112.175 (talk).

Thank you

I want you to know, not that it matters to you, that I appriciate your comments on Shard's page. I thank you for just the manner in which you've dealt with him... for being able to reason with Shard on his own level...in a way I cannot. But thank you as well for making the good points and being unbiased in your approach. I hope he appriciates what people like you do for him...perhaps he will learn to handle grievance with tact.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 17:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You know I read this page right? ~Shard 01:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

lol Raine - talk 03:10, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I was hoping you would.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 20:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Talking to another person to actually accomplish something with yet another person.Lol Lilondra *panda* 16:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool Movie link

Must have taken you quite some time to design that huge area. Nice one. 145.94.74.23 20:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

... -Auron 20:56, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

You know how you think people think you are an idiot? Misery 21:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, I thought he made it himself and I liked it, so I thought I'd say something nice for a change. 145.94.74.23 09:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Auron is far too lazy to do anything ever. Misery 10:20, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it was very realistic as well. Hey, you got some more TNT left? I sure wanna get started on this! I just now need to find someone who is ready to get shot! </sarcasm > Titani Ertan 10:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Euhm...I knew it wasn't real...but I assumed the person who made it used some sort of level editor. I never used GMod itself so I wouldn't know. 145.94.74.23 13:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Gary's mod I assume. A Half Life 2 mod. Misery 13:54, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

So I won't get to shoot someone who will trigger a mechanism? Another dream shattered. Titani Ertan 14:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You know how you think people think you are an idiot? Misery 21:09, 8 June 2009 (UTC) QFT. Pika Fan 23:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes Pika, I love you too. 145.94.74.23 06:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

20:28, 9 June 2009 Auron (Talk | contribs) deleted "Chizu Dance" ‎ (chiizu)

Typo'd D: 82.75.192.76 10:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Chiizu dance -Auron 11:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

done. 82.75.192.76 17:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Auron.

I really don't appreicate you tagging my page for deletion and truely I feel it was unjustly biased to consider it a "joke". Since when in God's good name is it still considered a joke even after I AGREE TO ACCEPT the nomination? Did you not read a single thing on the discussion page? Sheesh... -Lena™ talk 12:59, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You haven't actually formally accepted yet by the way. You need to accept on the nomination page. Misery 13:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I accepted the nomination on the talk page, I assumed that would be enough. -Lena™ talk 13:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There, done. -Lena™ talk 13:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

To be correct, nominations don't need to be accepted anyway. poke | talk 16:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Correct, but I suspect Auron didn't even look at the talk pages, there were many he tagged. Misery 16:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

It was a joke, and you're a terrible troll. I'm somewhat happy to see you withdraw before you got a chance to accrue a massive number of oppose votes, as I'm sure that would have hurt your ego, which would have led to more bitching and moaning. I think everyone is happier now. -Auron 07:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

New Nominee for Election

I put a delete template on the page because hes another Sock Joker and he just reverted the template and the comment and also reloaded an image he uploaded that tanetris deleted for G6. Needs to be deleted quickly (Tab for bcrat '09 is his name). ---- Yo Jm 17:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

hi auron --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Tab for bcrat '09 (talk).

Lol, thats him, hes not signing :) ---- Yo Jm 17:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't tell me....

....I made you smile :D. --Silverleaf Don't assume, Ask! 19:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Cookie? — Jon Lupen 19:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

No, I was merely amused at "the CM meetings sound like fun and productive." -Auron 20:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll settle for having made you amused :). --Silverleaf Don't assume, Ask! 05:28, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

?

I don't understand why you decided to continue an argument that wasn't even yours days after it was finished (and I was thankful for it to be finished). I'm not going to discuss anything about the argument because I'm done with it, and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from commenting on my talk page if you have nothing constructive to say. I will do the same for you.-- BVt 21:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

You posted a silly question. You got called out. You misinterpreted his calling you out to mean he was angry or something when he was merely commenting on the oddity of your question (which was, indeed, quite odd, given the circumstances). Your reaction to him was what prompted me to comment on your talk page. "Hey now, I don't even know him; no need to be like that.-- BVt" <- be like what? He was just commenting on the silly question. He has just as much right to do so as you do to post it in the first place.

He then explained his position to you ("I'm not "being" like anything. I simply stated that...") and you still didn't get it, writing his entire comment off with "Your comment was completely unnecessary," which was incredibly hypocritical, given that your original question and premise for that entire section was equally unnecessary.

I'm not continuing an argument, nor am I siding with either of you, I'm merely pointing out the hypocrisy of your last comment and how out of place your responses looked compared to his down-to-earth reactions to your question.

I will certainly refrain from commenting on your talk page if I have nothing constructive to say, but since you obviously have a great deal to learn from this situation, my comments thus far have been far from nonconstructive. -Auron 22:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Wow, now that I actually look back at it, you're right...-- BVt 22:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about my reaction...-- BVt 22:20, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

friendly message/reminder

→ moved from User talk:Linsey Murdock

Friendly message/reminder? Lol, it doesn't seem like one to me. There are nicer ways of asking things or saying stuff, beeing polite is beeing respectful. Also beeing polite mostly gets more results in cases like this. Just maybe they might be aware of the problem but are careful about saying "they have found the problem and are trying to fix it" because when they even remotely suggest "it might be fixed" are even something like that they are "looking into it", many players see it as a promise and think it will be fixed within a couple of days.

But indeed, the American servers are laggy, everytime I go on American servers then I rubberband and d/c alot, I don't have lag issues or don't get rubberbanded or d/c'ed in International or European servers tho. So it's probably a problem restricted to the American servers. Did not check the Asian servers. Qaletaqa Hania 07:38, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Another 'friendly' reminder: The server is at one end and the client is at the other. In between these two is the other 90% of the chain where things can go wrong. Please don't blame the far end of a weakened chain when any of the links might have failed. -- WarBlade 08:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Linsey. I'm going to complain about lag to you, something you have absolutely no control over. Maybe you'll pray to Google the great eGod and it will solve the lag issues. ~Shard 08:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Protip to Warblade - I've received reports from people using pretty much every major ISP (AT&T, comcast, time warner/oceanic cable, qwest, verizon) that are having the same issues. There are districts full of people in-game complaining about it. It is such a bad problem that people are adding it to the update notes. Also, none of my other games are lagging at all. WoW is working perfectly. EQ2 is working perfectly. Starcraft, WC3 and D2 are all connecting fine. My browser is not lagging or loading slowly at all. I am not torrenting or downloading anything. Guild Wars is the only program on my computer that is experiencing any lag whatsoever, and it is experiencing very bad lag. You could ignore all that and blindly defend ANet and their servers, or you could look at the facts that show, pretty clearly, ANet is at fault for the current lag issue. A friendly reminder, Warblade - Think. Post. That order. It isn't an outside issue if nothing else is broken except for Guild Wars.

@Qaletaqa Hania - thanks for the insight. I don't care. My being polite isn't going to get the servers fixed. My being polite is not required to let ANet know that the community realizes their servers are pieces of shit and are causing people to have huge lag issues. It is an issue that needs to be addressed - and if it isn't addressed, ANet needs to let the public know that they arer aware of the issue and are perfectly okay with not doing anything about it. -Auron 08:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, Auron, the severs for each of those games/programs is in a different location (presumably) across the country, so it could be that only the path to ArenaNet's server is having issues. Now, if many people from various locations around North America are having lag issues, then it's more likely that there could be an issue with ArenaNet's servers, but GuildWars being the only program with lag from your end or on your computer does not difinitively mean that there is an issue on ArenaNet's end. FWIW, we're having a few lag spikes here and there, but nothing so bad as to render the game unplayable. Could just be an unusually large number of players due to the skill update, which appears to have been welcomed favourably for the most part. --★KOKUOU★ 08:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the "protip" to me, no. Think and post is woefully inadequate. For lag issues I prefer to observe, assess, tracert, cross reference with Ping Plotter, isolate with a couple of Firefox add ons, before heading to the wiki to see what's up. It was at that point I found your knee jerk reaction blaming ArenaNet (on a game designer's page of all places) for troubles being experienced in another state. Granted, the problem might actually be with the Guild Wars servers, but automatically throwing scorn at the very last link in a chain of over a dozen links is not providing anyone with any useful information and just sets yourself deeper in people's awareness as a troll. If you actually want to do something useful you might try collecting data and providing feedback on the issue to Support. After all, the PlayNC Support people are the ones closure to the issue than Linsey is. -- WarBlade 09:09, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

I hate it when people say "protip", that's so arrogant, nobody here is a professional GW player. The only "pro" GW players I have ever met were the kids in the internet cafes in Vietnam that got paid $100 a month to play GW all day to farm gold for gold sellers, and I wouldn't have taken tips from them about any part of the game except maybe raptor farming.

Also, talking to your friends and alliance-mates and getting a few of them to agree with you is not "everyone" having the same problem. My normally very bad connection has been fine lately, and I haven't seen anyone complain about it.

Being rude does matter, if you act like a dick people will treat you like one, and if you are rude people are less likely to agree with you, no matter how right you may be. It is unfortunate that even Admins in this wiki feel the need to Troll. (Satanael 16:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

Yep, Auron your doing nothing other than trying to bother people when you act like that. If you actually act like your trying to get something out of your point, then act like it. Also, I would like to say that I nearly never lag. In four years of play I've probably disconnected only 6 times, with 4 of those times due to my own personal internet connection. Yesterday playing things seemed to go a bit slower, but hardly even noticable. I believe that most likely the issue is somewhere along the chain if not at your end- for if it was at arenanets end then I would've surely been lagging within these 4 years as others complain of lag. Underated Skill 17:23, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Cool story bro. I don't care about people treating me like a dick, because I can take it. You all are, however, wasting a bunch of fucking talk page space while talking about nothing at all, which irritates me more than I can express with words. If you have a problem with me or how I post, take it to my talk page so I can debunk your logic in a single post and Linsey won't have it read it. It's just annoying Linsey here. -Auron 17:47, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

"You all are, however, wasting a bunch of fucking talk page space while talking about nothing at all, which irritates me more than I can express with words." I call bullshit, you are rudely trolling for the very purpose of getting people to rant at you in response. (Satanael 18:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

Then why don't you all foil his nefarious plans by taking your complaints to his talk page like he requested? Misery 18:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Calling him on it in "public" allows others to know for future reference, telling him alone what he already knows serves no purpose. (Satanael 18:18, 19 June 2009 (UTC))

auron ftw - Wuhy 19:08, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

How a troll and idiot like Auron ends up as a sysop on such a respectable wiki is beyond me. Btw, nobody is treating you like a dick, you're treating Linsey like a dick, which I remind you won't get you anywhere. Effectively, wasting space as you complain about and detest.Underated Skill 01:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah Ahgh Ahgh ahgh...whoah there, watch it with the personal attacks, bub. And keep in mind that a Wiki is only as "respectable" as it is Flexible. You can't logically praise this media in one breath while insulting the election process & breaking its Policies in the other. ...As for the Sysops, they should all be ashamed for letting this fight go when they obviously have the power to break parts of it up and move it to the respectable pages of those involved. --ilr 03:49, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

That is true... *grumbles slightly under his breath*. On topic: Your argument contains some merit, auron: I was playing last night and I actually lagged a bit- had moments where I couldn't move, ect. And apparently the guy who I was talking to via pm (thus in a totally different area) had the "lag spike" as he described it at the same time. So perhaps something is truly up. But in any case, you'd think if something as unorthodox as this was occuring that anet would already be working on fixing it?--Underated Skill 13:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

You must be very new to Guild Wars. -Auron 14:18, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you deserve a better explanation. ANet has never done a very good job of playtesting, ever. Factions skills were incredibly buggy (shadowsteps that wouldn't work, spirits that wouldn't attack, etc), and Nightfall skills even more so (signet of ghostly might). They've just done worse and worse as time goes on (for example, this latest update included a skill that simply crashed your client when you equipped it - obviously nobody tested that or they'd have found it out in two seconds). Thusly, I don't trust their bug testing section, if it indeed exists. According to Reggie's post, neither do they - they're opening up more test realms for bug finding, which reinforces exactly what I'm saying here - their bug testing is, at the moment, inadequate.

On top of that, and more to my point, they don't have anyone gathering information on the state of the game from ground level. Gaile and Andrew Patrick were notorious for basically reporting the wrong stuff constantly. The example that jumps to mind is always the Heroes' Ascent change - Anet decided that they would try to make HA a 6-man arena instead of 8-man. However, they were stupid and added an additional bonus for HA; the first-ever double fame weekend. Then they were dumb enough to poll the wrong people about Heroes' Ascent. They went around on GWO and GWGuru, neither place known for having any good PvPers, and asked about the heroes' ascent changes. What did everyone think that meant? Double fame. So naturally, everyone on those forums was like "YEAH BRING IT ON I LOVE DOUBLE FAME." So, HA was officially changed to 6man, without ANet ever polling actual PvPers or doing an even decent poll to begin with (people liked the double fame, not the 6man bit, but they thought it came together). Naturally, it was a terrible change, and the PvPers had to bitch for months to get ANet to finally realized they had fucked up and revert it back to 8man.

So we know that their bug testing staff is either limited or bad, and we know that they are unable to gather information about the game, and haven't been able to for four years. Thus, I have alerted ANet the very few times ANet needed to know about a huge bug in their game, because obviously they weren't going to hear it from anyone on their end - and I've only done it twice in total. The last thing I posted on a dev's talk page (starting a new section etc) was the July 2008 mAT lag conflicts with the hero baddles double points weekend. This is the only other time I've felt it necessary to comment to a dev, so obviously it's not like I go around and pester devs about random bullshit all day. I don't treat Devs' talk pages like my personal property, nor do I even visit them regularly. But when there are issues that must be addressed, I will talk to a dev if I need to; since Linsey is the de facto boss of GW1, any serious problems should go to her and she can redirect them as needed.

I dunno what the fuck people's problems are, but they really should not have bitched in that section to begin with. They're treating it like their talk pages more than Linsey's. She's an adult. She can deal with it. She doesn't need internet white knights or wiki bodyguards. I am not there to troll or antagonize or personally attack her, and anyone too thick to realize that should not have posted in that section to begin with. I don't even have a history of trolling dev talk pages, yet people think they know me well enough to give me advice on how to win people over. They're just clueless, and really shouldn't comment on stuff when they have no idea what they're talking about to begin with.

As a closer, the section as it stands right now is about as much attention as it should have gotten to begin with. It was a message to Linsey, made after doing research (asking around to a large userbase from around the world, using a variety of ISPs) and anyone without pertinent information to add should not have commented at all. That is mostly what drove my only other post in that section, which was a plea to get people to shut up if they had nothing to add (and if any of their comments was directed at me, it should have been made on my talk page to begin with, as Linsey's talk page should be treated as a limited resource and not as a message board between users).-Auron 15:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

This is true- they do often implement things and then take them back/ have to deal with the bugs of them. Its not that I'm new to guild wars. (over 3 years of play) I just never lag- but when I do, something is up. You have a substantial case. EDIT: also, I apologise for "crucifying" you as jon lupen put it. I see where you're coming from. Underated Skill 19:31, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

IM's

Regina uses Xfire (and has the contact info on her page) and Linsey uses MSN if you can track down her contact info, I know Wyn has it. I've brought a few things and some quick questions to Regina over Xfire that I would much rather not have left at the mercy of the community. I say this because I would rather see someone get a valid point across to the right people instead of being crucified by the community for a respectable level of bluntness. — Jon Lupen 17:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

however Linsey has enough work on her plate and it really isn't her issue. Gaile is the support person and Auron knows this, thus latency issues should be addressed to her not Linsey. Bluntness is fine, but an understand of corporate structure goes a long way too. Being blunt to the wrong person just makes you sound like an arse, for an example see Linsey's talk page. -- Salome 19:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Gaile was in charge of gathering info on the state of the game for years. She did that job incredibly poorly. Based on her track record, I honestly do not expect her to do any better with this. Linsey has not proved herself unable to do her job, thus I will go to her with any problems I may have, especially when the alternative is Gaile. -Auron 06:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

That would all make sense apart from the fact that it isn't Linsey's job and she has expressly asked people to send support things to support and not to her. -- Salome 11:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I would contend that since the lag is clearly (really, there can be no debating this point anymore) caused by something on ArenaNet's end of the line, it is a game design issue and should be brought to Linsey's attention. Support can't do anything to alter the framework of the game or its servers. 99.151.139.100 12:03, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't agree. Linsey cannot do anything without going through support first and verifying if this is the case, thus again Gaile should have been contacted not Linsey. Further to this Linsey can't alter the server framework either, she works in game design, its not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination, nor can you simply say its a game design issue, it could be any number of things. Even Auron isn't claiming he went to Linsey because she was the right person, he went to her because shes the most approachable member of staff and the one most likely to take things onboard. -- Salome 17:56, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Support can't do a damn thing. Support hasn't ever been able to do anything. ANet/NCsoft support has been an absolute joke since 3/4 years ago. You might like wasting your time, effort and energy; I, however, do not, so I will not go to support for pretty much any problem I may have. They're even worse at their jobs than Gaile was at her old one, and if I'm not willing to go to Gaile, why would I be willing to go to support? :/ -Auron 23:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe they've changed in the meantime? I mean, if it was 3 years ago that you last contacted them...145.94.74.23 05:44, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I can never tell if you're serious. I try to assume it's a trolling comment because it's so wrong it hurts. You're suggesting ANet's support (which wasn't good to begin with) has gotten better, while their balance, bug/testing team, and entire game focus has very obviously gone to shit? Really? -Auron 07:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe I'm just optimistic, but I've seen honest attempts at improvement from Linsey, Regina and Jon. The quality of the updates has been steadily improving since Linsey started. I have also seen their plan for a player-test team. And a PvP orientated update is on it's way. And one of them (I think it was Linsey) told us that some bugs simply do not occur on test servers, and some are hard to fix. At the very least, please don't think that I'm only here to annoy you - that is not my intention. I know it sounds odd, but I want you view GW in a different light and enjoy the game again. 145.94.74.23 18:31, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Jon? Mini Me 18:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

You called? Jokes aside, which Jon do you speak of and why? — Jon Lupen 20:55, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

You know what's funny? Well, two things, the first of which is that I can't find the section I'm going to mention, but the second is that I was going to respond to that section and disagree with you when you said linsey and them were doing better, but when I stopped to think about it, I didn't really have a disagreement. The VoR change was nice. The Lingering change was... okay. The sav heat change was decent. I still don't think they can fix GW, but if they nerf enough of the broken shit and remove heroes from the game as they've "promised," it might be nice to log on every once in awhile. -Auron 21:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The biggest hope for the game at this point is to get some competent, skilled players with decent attitudes and a good understanding of the game onto that Guild Wars Testing Krewe or whatever Regina called it, and then for ANet to actually listen to those players when they tell them that making VoR last longer is a bad idea. More than likely they'll grab a half-dozen pro-PvE shitters who tell them to get rid of that pesky scatter script for the AI and let people take 7 heroes in HA. --Jette 22:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

@ Jon: I meant Joe Kimmes. 145.94.74.23 09:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, ok. I was thinking of John Hargrove. — Jon Lupen 16:17, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

VoR ducks Spirit Bond now, so I eat 100 damage from VoR/Backfire through SB.

Fuck that shit.

ofc, most mesmers are too bad to realize this, and religiously avoid stacking them now. Still, it was a good change overall, it just happened to remove one of the viable counters to the build. Raine - talk 17:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

YouTube Video

I laughed so hard at that, especially at around 3:15. That was one of the best YouTube Videos I have ever seen. Props to you! -- §Lacky§ Talk 05:51, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Scroll up. ~Shard 05:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I did look at the other comments, I didn't see anything about this. -- §Lacky§ Talk 06:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Read the one entitled "cool movie link." Auron didn't make the video. ~Shard 06:02, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought it may have been that one, but then it went into some HL2 crap. -- §Lacky§ Talk 06:08, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

ohhhhh he changed it. I should click on links more huh? ~Shard 06:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

You sure should. Now, bow/kneel down before me, declare me as your Master, and say sorry, or else you won't get your Cookie! -- §Lacky§ Talk 06:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't want a huge picture on my talk page, so I'll just /bow. ~Shard 06:25, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Sigh...fine...I guess that will have to do... -- §Lacky§ Talk 01:45, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

LOL

Just LOL. - Bex 05:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm always torn between laughing and crying. Some of the stuff people say and do is so funny, yet so dumb. -Auron 06:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

An apology

I'd like to apologize for my comments on the RfR page. My reasonings weren't even close to even needing this kind of action. Therefore, I'd like to offer my apologies. Godspeed on the reconfirmation, if it goes through. -- Wandering Traveler 01:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

& Me too for the situation I stirred up.-- BVt 19:52, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Worried

This is scratch your head wondering what's going on worried, not freaking out thinking the world is going to end worried. There is always the possibility that something bad happened scratching at the back of my mind. Text lacks body language and voice tones, it's easy to get the wrong impressions. *shrugs* I've misinterpreted things a few times. — Jon Lupen 18:15, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

She ragequit. It was clearly quite deliberate. She didn't die in a horrible car crash resulting in her wiki pages being wiped on every wiki and her twitter being deleted. If she wants to explain it, she will. If she wants to get in touch with someone, she will. Otherwise, chill, it's out of your hands bro. Misery 18:21, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm chilled, and I know it's out of my hands. — Jon Lupen 18:24, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

This certainly had nothing to do with my implied threats on her life. Those were entirely tongue in cheek. I just want that out there. Misery 18:26, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

It's harder for me to tell which of your comments are not tongue in cheek. X) — Jon Lupen 18:28, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

A good rule of thumb is none. Misery 18:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

IP-Block

Thanks for blocking 194.80.18.25. They were getting really annoying. -- §Lacky§ Talk 13:58, 26 June 2009 (UTC)