User talk:Kokuou

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• Oct. '07 - Sept. '08

Holy crap. :( I'm reverting it. :) Thanks for the warning. - Lud 08:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully there's a quick way to undo this. D: - Lud 08:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

<shoots self> It's okay. I'm reverting it already. - Lud 08:57, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Finished. I guess it's all good. Thanks again. - Lud 09:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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I would refrain from doing that again, as your pretty much dragging the conversation on. Dominator Matrix 20:51, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I wrote that 30 minutes after Shard wrote it, when the conversation was still ongoing for the most part. It's now been over 16 hours and no one's said anything since, so it's safe to say the conversation is over. I can see if I had written something now or tomorrow, but as it stands, you really don't have a reason to "warn" me. Kokuou 20:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

DominatorMatrix is right. Regardless of when the reply was made it is best in Shard's case that nobody bothers to reply at all. When other users step up to refute his so called 'facts' it usually only serves to draw another diatribe from him laced with yet more abuse and generally just extends a flame war that ultimately goes nowhere. In other words, there's no need to feed the troll. ;) -- WarBlade 21:44, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I guess you two might be right. Still, I just felt really bad for Kim because you can tell she works hard to communicate with people here on bug issues. I just don't understand how he thought she wouldn't take it personal on her personal wiki page. After he's made so many personal attacks on other wikiers and ArenaNet devs that are here, his apologies just don't sound sincere. Kokuou 21:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

If I started talking about monkeys on your personal user page, would you take that personally?

And despite your impressions (which I honestly can't blame you for), Shard is sincere in his apology - he's a troll, but he doesn't want to destroy the wiki with drama. Also, his goal is get ANet to improve, not to ragefaec their devs so they quit their jobs (that would be counterintuitive, as I'm sure you could imagine). If you'd like to talk about it more, you can probably find him on vent (baring job/RL stuff that we know he doesn't have). 64.59.99.130 22:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

No, but then I would know because you actually said you were talking about monkeys. Shard posted, and I quote, "So who's the person at Quality Assurance who actually gets things done instead of making up half-baked excuses why things don't work?" From this comment, it's fair to assume that Kim (or anyone, for that matter) could construe this as a personal attack, (and, in fact, she did) rather than a general comment to ArenaNet. And if his true intentions weren't to destroy the wiki with drama, well, he's sure not doing a good job at showing it, is he? Regardless of what you say, I already admitted above that perhaps I shouldn't have feed the troll, but what's done is done (thankfully, it stopped there and didn't snowball even further). Still, the point is that Shard thinks he deserves to be heard the loudest of any other community member, and when he doesn't get feedback, he goes on NPA tirades and acts like a child. I get that he wants to make the game better. That part comes through loud and clear, and I'm not trying to say he wants to ruin the game or the wiki. The problem is with his delivery; it's neither rational or constructive, and that's why he's got an ArbComm case over his head.

I'll believe that Shard's apologies (previous or to come) will be sincere when he proves that he can act like a normal adult human being and talk things over rather than throwing tantrums. I know about GWW:AGF and all, but with everything he's done, it's not unnatural for me or anyone else here to ABF. --Kokuou 23:03, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandal

Thanks for the revert. After I did it a couple times, and he kept on, I figured I'd just wait until the sysops slapped a ban on him, or until he got bored of screwing around on my page.--Pyron Sy 19:39, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Heh, no problem. ;) Figured I may as well stick my one revert in. --Kokuou 19:53, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Signature

Thanks for letting me know ;) --'DAVA 16:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Policy problems

Yeah, ive read the policies now. Sorry about that issue.--Burning Freebies 16:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!

Happy V-Day!!! - Tesla 00:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Testing sig

Do you work? o_O --★KOKUOU★ 23:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Indeed it does and welcome back from your vacation! How've you been? -- Salome 17:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

It was really nice. I finally got to meet the better half's family and they're a really great bunch, and it was nice to finally put all their names to faces. We were gone for a whole month, though, so it was also nice to come back to our kids (read: dogs) and get some GW time in. ;) --★KOKUOU★ 23:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

There is a rule about personal attacks and 'inappropriate language'

Lord Belar's comments are irrational, vulgar AND personal attacks. I have also told him to stay OFF my page unless he has something constructive to say. He is NOT trying to communicate. He is simply being abusive. ALL that would justify giving him a LOOOOONG ban. But NO. You put his shit back. STOP that and follow the rules YOURSELF! mtew 06:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Kokuou is following the rules. He's also not trying to annoy you, he's just keeping you on the rigth track. I know it must be annoying for you Mtew, but really Belar hasn't breachd any of our policies as such. You forbidding that person to talk on your user page and then them continuing on talking on it, doesn't constitute harrasement either as the talk page is "owned" by the community and as long as hes abiding by the wiki policies, he's entitled to post there. It is good manners however to stop posting on a persons talk page when asked too, but their is no policy enforcing good wiki etiquette. -- Salome 06:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Belar is attacking. His intent is obviously hostile and disruptive. That kind of behavior is prohibited by the NPA policy. My objection to Kokuou's action is that he seems blind to Belar's maliciousness. Each user's space is a trust that should be used to advance the game and the community. If Belar was aiding the management of that trust, I would not object, but he is interfering with my responsible use of the space given me. Now Kokuou is helping him to be abusive. THAT I object to. mtew 07:19, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Your talk page isn't yours though matey. It belongs to the community. As said elsewhere i know that Belar's intent is one of baiting but technically he isn't directly attacking you and thus breaking NPA. I have warned him to stop baiting you as its disruptive, but still you can't censor what hes saying until he actually breaks NPA and if he does, then you can delete the offending comment and ONLY that comment, other than that your only course of action is to archive the subject, which i would suggest doing now. As that way its dead and buried and out of the way. -- Salome 07:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Salome. ;)

@Mtew: Nowhere did I say I approve of Lord Belar's trolling, nor do I intend to facilitate him in doing so. That being said, if he's trolling, then ignore him. As a rational, mature user, that is your best course of action with trolls and/or trolling comments. There is no policy on this wiki forbidding inappropriate language, such as swearing or profanity. Intensely vulgar and inappropriate content is sometimes deleted/dealt with on a case-by-case basis, but nothing anyone posted on your page could be considered of that level of vulgarity. Again, the best way to deal with someone you don't want posting on your page is to ask them not to do so again (which you did) and ignore them (which you haven't done thus far). --★KOKUOU★ 08:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'm off my meds and very grumpy. Get OFF the language schtick! That is NOT the point. The personal attacks are the point. Now where is that damn pill bottle.... mtew 10:11, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

It's not "its", is it . . .

Thanks for fixing that. Seeing those makes me want to stab my eyes out, so I double-hate that I do it ... ^_^ --Star Weaver 19:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Poor sab.

Don't tell me how to act. If someone touches my page without my persmission they will get told off. If you don't like it, well, tough damn luck. Why should I filter how I act/treat people on the internet? I see no reason to what so ever. Real life is WAYYYYYYYYY different from the internet. Thank, big guy. You're cool. :) -Lena talk 04:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

For the record, I'm not telling you how to act; I'm informing you of our policies, and asking that you abide by them. If you don't want to or aren't willing to, then... well... you know the way out. --★KOKUOU★ 04:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Why would I willingly leave because someone told me "...then you can leave..."? Please, I have no intention of doing so-- save yourself the effort in asking me to. :) -Lena talk 04:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

If you're going to comment, then please show some reading comprehension before doing so. I said if you aren't willing to follow our policies, then you can leave. Notice the if/then argument. Taking things out of context is just silly. --★KOKUOU★ 05:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, "If you're going to comment, then please show some reading comprehension before doing so." As formentioned. Don't suggest me to leave. Yuu're wasting your time doing so, big boy. -Lena talk 05:15, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Pause

Hit the pause button for a bit, please? This whole "gotta place the last word in" is almost always bad, even if it is the good word. Just take a break, and let tempers cool. --Antioch 05:53, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

10-4 -Lena talk 06:02, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Terry Brooks

I noticed you're a fan. Did you see he's heading back to the Kingdom of Landover? Those were the first real "fantasy" books I read (I won't say how long ago), and I've been a huge fan ever since. Although I did think the ending to his last Shannara trilogy was very "abruptly" ended (won't spoil since I don't know if you've finished it). Freedom Bound 15:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, hey! Sorry for not answering you sooner! I am indee a fan of TB. I hadn't heard that he's heading back to Landover, though. To be honest, I've only ever read one of the Landover books (The Black Unicorn, I believe), but it was long ago, and I don't really remember it, nor do I think it was the first in the series, which may have added to my confusion. I may just have to check out the series, although I remember the one book I did read being less about the fantasy realm than the Shannara series (although, the last series admittedly has stuff about "our world," too, so it may be worth a look). --★KOKUOU★ 07:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem! Not like the world will end without an immediate response! :) But, if you do decide to get into it, I wanted to let you know that the other books in the series are going to be reissued at the same time, in two volumes of three books each (pretty cheap, too). Just FYI. Freedom Bound 13:55, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Such a pity

Some people are either too lazy to use links, to far away from reality to get what is primarily used to identify skills or just conversative for the pure purpose of being. Anyway, this nice thing is banned. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:12, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

*poke* 128.176.178.53 08:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

wats? o_O --★KOKUOU★ 08:17, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello.

That was my first redirect attempt. I was trying to move the support issue from Gaile's personal talk page to her support talk page. I don't know why it didn't work, I was sure I forwarded it to the correct destination? Anyways, what did I do wrong? Could you tell me what to do for future refference? Thank you. -Lena™ talk 02:11, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really sure, but I think you have to just delete the actual section (copy, cut, save page), and put it onto the desired page (edit, paste, save page), and be sure to leave a "Moved to:" link in the original page. I think that's how it's done, as I've never done it myself. You could ask Wyn, she'd know for sure, but I know that the "Move" button at the top of the page will move the entire page. I know that doesn't help much, but it's the best I can do! o_O --★KOKUOU★ 02:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. Shard just epxlained it to me on my talk page and even more descriptively on vent. :) -Lena™ talk 02:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

Hey, I apologize for my misinterpretation of your intention when replying to my thread on the discussion page for DominatorMatrix's nomination. I thought you were being arrogant when in fact you were just apathetically stating the unlikelihood. Sorry again.-- BVt 22:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I really wasn't trying to egg you on or anything, and I should have realized that it may have sounded that way when I wrote it. Apology accepted, and please accept mine, as well. :) --★KOKUOU★ 22:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

To Tahnnakai Temple

I canNOT believe I missed that spelling of Obsidian. >.< /facepalm Thanks for catching that! Elysea 03:37, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

-- |Cyan LightLive!| 13:49, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

誕生日 おめでとう! You're still in Japan, right? poke | talk 14:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Happy Birthday Kokuou, hopefully it was a good one :) --Kakarot 22:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

1RRR

You're in violation for the image you've tagged twice, despite within reason. Even if it is copyvio. It is evidence to another policy - guild of which this discussion deals with that policy, me, and a couple of guilds, and another person. Nice to know, since jumping in. huh? I know it's a copyvio, but when it can assist to another situation. (with another policy, etc) I can only see it being up short enough for that. Which is how long everything lasts anyway. I'm a 'pick on' person, guess cause of my stubborn ways. -- riyen ♥ 10:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

You're misunderstanding that policy, as well. I haven't violated GWW:1RR. I tagged it, you reverted it, and I reverted it back. That's ONE revert for me (tagging doesn't count as a reversion). Thanks for playing, though. :) --★KOKUOU★ 10:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

No, you're a "pick on" person because you're trying to wiki-lawyer with little understanding of the rules. This is like the billionth "you've broken 1rr omg" post I've seen from/regarding you in a very short time, can you give it a rest? Stop edit warring with people (or pretending there is one happening, as the case may be). -Auron 11:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

*meow* Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 11:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

@Auron Not that many. I understand rules, better than you think. It's you who don't understand me. Typical, cause 1. I'm a girl 2. Haven't I told you already? Oh, well.

@Kokuou My mistake. Another bad day. I need a vacation (not from the net), but we can't travel (well he can w/job.) Am truly sorry as I should have a brick hit my head for that. -- riyen ♥ 11:26, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

You being a girl has absolutely nothing to do with you not understanding 1RR. -Auron 13:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

• Points above* Also... I have not done that many complaints with 1rr. :-P -- riyen ♥ 13:20, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

No, I fully understand that you had no clue about 1RR - that much was obvious. I'm saying "I'm a girl" isn't the reason for it. -Auron 13:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

No, just a mistake happened, wasn't really 'thinking' thinking. was irritated and annoyed and multitasking. Haven't you gotten like that? hmm? -- riyen ♥ 18:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't wiki without thinking please... poke | talk 19:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Tell that to others, whom do things on here too without thinking. It'd save them 'trouble' from 'getting in trouble'. -- riyen ♥ 20:12, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Uh, no, he's telling it to you. Once your problems are sorted out, you can start worrying about anyone else. You've got a very long way to go before that is the case, so just stay focused on fixing yourself first. -Auron 01:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

stfu Auron, she understands rules and you don't understand her because she's a female girl. She also uses American English and types in her own way. Pika Fan 01:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, And I know I'm not the only one with 'issues' Auron. Problems are always sorted and learned. Guess you hadn't noticed that by now. :-) Things will be always worked out, and settled. It's risks. We all gotta step on a few 'thumb tacts' to learn. Surely, haven't you been there? -- riyen ♥ 01:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I actually avoid stepping on thumb tacks. I don't want tetanus shots. -Auron 03:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

They're not that bad. Really, better than getting a lot of shots. Poor little one had to receive about 4 or 5 shots just recently. -- riyen ♥ 05:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Note

We'll see what Joe says about it. Either way, This will be settled by him. Both edits confirm what he said, but the Shorter one is less wordy and to the point. As I said, we'll see what Joe says. -- riyen ♥ 06:06, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

From Joe's page: "So for the Young Heroes book, doing any mission the book covers would reset the expiration, but wouldn't affect any other books."

How much clearer do you want him to be? Or do I need to make the font bigger? --★KOKUOU★ 06:11, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

The Note needs to be corrected from what it is as them two put it as, then. It doesn't need to be 'storybooks and that last line said like that. Note needs to be that MOST books are every 30 days. Only book is the young heros book and those missions are only in that book, not the other books. I know. I've done them. I still have several copies done not turned in yet. -- riyen ♥ 06:15, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

About

About ''' that. please read this. It's old consensus. Please don't remove bold letterings for [[something]] that has been talked about. It's also not wise to self-link. Thank you, and happy editing to you. -- riyen ♥ 07:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Then what do you call them? I cannot find any other affiliation they'd 'fit' to. They are ghosts in that they are undead and see through. If you can find another affiliation, please place that in. otherwise, please don't revert something that's needed. -- riyen ♥ 09:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, they're definitely not ghosts, so the previous 'Not specified' would be better in this case. In any case, please see my comment here. --★KOKUOU★ 09:54, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I thought this might help you. "Affiliation is a classification of Creatures that is distinguished by the mechanics of bounty Blessings and the various of slaying weapon mods. They often, but not always, correspond to social organizations or common mindsets, including tribal identities, armies, and political groups. Non-sentient creatures unable to form such groups generally belong to regional wildlife groupings." So, they're 'spirits' so to speak. Here's another quote "Celestials are the physical embodiment of the spirits of the stars. They are made of the starlight that shines down on the world. As such, celestials are not fleshy creatures. Defeating the four celestial bosses in Nahpui Quarter is the test you must pass to become Weh no Su. When a celestial boss is defeated lesser celestials of the same type, called essences are spawned." This is where I got Ghosts from the choices I had. So just because 'they're not ghosts' to you... doesn't mean it doesn't 'fit' the affiliation that they are 'associated' with. -- riyen ♥ 10:06, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Added in Celestials, more so affiliated with one another. -- riyen ♥ 10:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)