User talk:Konig Des Todes/Archive 2010 3

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Your main userpage

Is huge :| --SharkinuUser Sharkinu sig.png 08:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I'll be reducing it as I move things to my GW2Wiki page (that is, I'll be moving the character information over there - when I get a template for GW1 characters made) and as I complete my HoM (that little list under "Note To Self"). I'll try to reduce it before then though. -- Konig/talk 15:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Shrunk it a little, still huge, will do more later on (I'll try to move things over to the GW2Wiki this week >.>). -- Konig/talk 16:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Should no longer be huge, btw. -- Konig/talk 04:54, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The ancient language

Hey konig, i asked u about the canthan language, it seems it is impossible at this time, But.. i also am doing elona, and i saw that there where symbols from there, is there anything known about that language? Or should i dig into this? --Mr HaXx 22:49, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

The Elonian alphabet was not made to be translatable - stated so by Matthew Medina, the "language expert" (as anet's blog called him). Only translatable alphabet in GW1 there are would be Old Ascalonian, Old Canthan, and Asuran. Old Krytan may be translatable due to GW2 though - but GW1's cases might turn out to be gibberish. For languages, Old Canthan and Old Kurzick - along with the language spoken by the Emphiral Spirit - are/might be translatable (Old Kurzick is a "supposed translation" and the one by the spirit was a cipher, Old Canthan, I don't think anyone tried - both Old Kurzick and Old Canthan uses slightly modified forms of real languages). Basically, everything on this wiki's Languages of Tyria page is what we have in terms of translations (not in terms of documented runes though). -- Konig/talk 22:59, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
To bad, i was realy inspired to work on it, then ill just use normal language, and when guild wars 2 comes out, i'm planning to make a storychange to 250 years later :) But thanks for your anwsers, saves me time searching through wiki and guild wars. --Mr HaXx 23:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
The only words we have spelled out in Elonian would be the three regions - Istan, Kourna, and Vabbi - not sure if the Desolation is in them as well, might be... As far as I know, this translation/wording can only be found in cinematics. -- Konig/talk 23:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Yeah i saw that, and i was just checking your gw2 wiki, you are working on books? Is that the real lore of entire guild wars 1? including nightfall and such from the time the gods came to earth, all the events and stuff? --Mr HaXx 23:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
It's fan fiction. I call them books because when finished they'll each be the size of one - as opposed to short stories. More accurately, they'd be novels though. Just not sold. Idk what you mean by "the gods came to earth" though :P -- Konig/talk 23:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah well, i thought it would be like Ghosts of Ascalon kind of books, or the Guild Wars Manuscript, where there is a story about Devona and Mhenlo and such where you would follow that group. It's hard for me to explain myself this way :P But to make it simple, is this a storybook that starts from before The Guild Wars or somewhere random?(sorry if im confusing :P )(edit: i mean does it contain [1] information but then as a story? also forget he gods came to earth, i was playing some zelda, and got mixed up :P ) --Mr HaXx 23:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
It's a non-canonical (that means isn't official - sometimes people don't know what that means, so just making sure you do, no offense intended) fictional work based in the world of Guild Wars. It is a novel so it would be like the stories and GoA, but those are canon. The first one takes place before and up to the Exodus of the Gods, the second one is mostly around Istan and features Mad King Thorn going insane and the Scarab Plague, the third revolves around Lord Odran and some other famous "Mage Lords" (non-canon term coined by the GWO lore community to reference powerful mages like Odran who are lords), the fourth revolves around my own personal story during the time of GW1, the fifth revolves around a non-canon group (Shining Mantle) around the time of the War in Kryta, the sixth revolves around some characters of mine and their travels to another world, and the seventh revolves around my GW2 characters. All events are non-canon and are either completely my own ideas or based off of canon lore. I try to not break the confirmed lore in my fiction as much as possible (and thus far have not... just bent). -- Konig/talk 00:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok, i understand, i was looking for someone who might have made the lore into a real book/story. Also thanks for your time on the language explanation. --Mr HaXx 07:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. And to answer your question from in-game while I was afk: Yes, but as I'm studying to be a writer, I take my free time (or some of it) to write the fan fiction - counting it as "practice" (along with getting some bleeding ideas out of my head) for when I start writing write serious work. -- Konig/talk 07:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

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here, if that's gonna stay the main page article for much longer you should really make the picture even slightly relevant. -Auron 04:38, 7 September 2010 (UTC)


for clarifying. - Reanimated X 18:00, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Tarnished Coast References

It looks like something with the landmark list template is interfering with the ref code. Removing that template fixes the ref. Not sure how to fix it, though.--User Pyron Sy sig.png Pyron Sy 02:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


My apologies for editing mid-field. I'm still somewhat (translation: massively) a newbie at this entire thing. Lesson learned. And thank you for being so nice about the entire thing ;) Kilraanon 23:26, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

A bit harsh

I feel you are being a bit harsh about the Voice Actor project. You have your area that you contribute to and enjoy and Lucian is trying to contribute in an area he feels has been overlooked/neglected. While I was and still am against adding the information to the infobox, I don't have any problem with the rest of their project, and I don't think the majority of the community do either. You might want to just tone down your criticisms a bit. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

My only complaint is the template. I'm fine with the info box, and I support the rest of the project. But the template is idiotic and pointless in every way I look at it. And it's not that good looking either - worse than Ascalon's overuse of the quotation template. Any and all criticisms has been to that, and I was not overly "harsh" either. I was stating that the template is rather pointless - which it is - and that I think it looks bad - which I do. -- Konig/talk 23:18, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't see you having ANY support for the project with comments like "Are all the pages in this category, and the category itself in fact, necessary?"... They are all tied into the project. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 23:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
An unwritten policy of mine: If I have no issues, I do not comment. People tend to see me as a complete asswipe due to that, but hey, I don't care. I forgot about the category, so there are two things I don't support about the project. But the project's primary purpose - to find and connect VAs for characters and take note of that - I am in full 100% support. If I were to do the project alone, I'd find the VAs and note them in trivia just as they were prior to the silly template issue today, like how it's done on GW2Wiki (of course, I find their use of articles for VAs silly as well - imo, only people who deserve pages are those who work at Anet, exclusion of user pages, of course). My reason for lack of saying elsewhere is due to what I said: I don't comment if I don't have an issue. -- Konig/talk 23:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


… for the clarification. I just didn't get what you were referring to but this cleared it up, thanks :) poke | talk 21:48, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Dhuum glitch

Dude this is a glitch i am IN the glitch right now and i really want to get my dam UW chest. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Brisingr Dude (talk).

1) sign your comments. 2) Was King Frozenwind in the Hall of Judgment when you started the fight with Dhuum? 3) This is why I didn't remove the note, merely fixed it. -- Konig/talk 23:40, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore, King Frozenwind doesn't teleport and you can leave the immediate chamber - but there's a gate outside the Hall of Judgment's whole you cannot leave. Unless this was changed very recently. -- Konig/talk 23:42, 9 November 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for taking care of some of the left-over redundant categories for various WiK/GWB articles. A lot of stuff was (is?) left over from the original rush to document new content. Now that we have time to reflect on how we've structured, categorized... I appreciate you taking time to clean things up.  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:07, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I've been meaning to get to it for a while, and have been slowly taking care of those things. There's a lot more to do - especially stuff that I can't talk about. -- Konig/talk 03:13, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh? I didn't know the wiki had any NDAs for categories ;-)  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 03:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
It's more of something that an NDA prevents that if I could state would allow a (better) organization of categories, and more, in fact. -- Konig/talk 03:53, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Any chance of that being lifted? Or does such information fall under the NDA too? :P WhyUser talk:Why 04:20, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I would assume so. Not taking chances. :) -- Konig/talk 04:23, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
I will admit that you have made me curious. Ohwell, NDA, we'll see. Nice to know there are people that know things. One less thing I'll have to worry about myself. WhyUser talk:Why 04:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)


Don't egg him on. Don't give the King Troll a reason to rant about how ArenaNet is baed and all his frakkin' BS. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 01:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

George Dubya didn't get immunity from parting shots, why should Emily? User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 02:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
This isn't about saving Emily, this is about not feeding the trolls. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 02:10, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
The risk of Emily's talk page devolving into a trollfest is quite low. They do have some concept of decency. User Felix Omni Signature.pngelix Omni 02:14, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
There's never a good reason to give Auron encouragement to step up on his soap box and preach about how ArenaNet is a failing company and is bad at everythig they do. — Jon User Jon Lupen Sig Image.png Lupen 02:24, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you and good night! *bows* (Translation: Are you sure Auron's the troll being fed here?) -- Konig/talk 02:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Hearts of the North

I'm glad somebody is helping me put this page together. Thanks man! You rock this wiki. --MushaUser Musha Sigc.png 00:15, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

However, did we drop the location formatting that was devised for WiK content? --MushaUser Musha Sigc.png 03:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I... honestly don't think it was ever implemented. It just... died, I think. Check some WiK NPC articles. -- Konig/talk 03:01, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Nathe's latest post

Just to be clear here. That post could just as easily have been placed in the skill suggestion space, and in my opinion that's where it belongs. While he doesn't have specific suggestions for specific skills, he's still suggesting that the entire smiting prayers line be looked at and revamped. There is pretty clear evidence now that the developers are looking at user submitted suggestions in the feedback space, and considering that 2 developers have already been pretty much driven off the wiki by the fact that people post this kind of stuff on their personal pages and then get irate if they don't get specific answers, I think it's necessary to remind people. As it is he has posted a total of 5 different topics on John's page. The rest were more directly related to John and some of the decisions he's made in regards to the progression of the storylines. This one however is definitely fodder for the Suggestion pages. -- Wyn User Wynthyst sig icon2.png talk 12:32, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

"in my opinion that's where it belongs" exactly. In your opinion, yet you state it, in a manner I read as rude, as fact that it doesn't. Just as it could of been reworded to be a suggestion, it could also have been reworded to be a question on if there are any plans for such a change - the later being how it came off to me. While I agree that suggestions should not be put on the developer' talk pages, that was not much of a suggestion. Rather, next time you can be less blunt (which makes your posts seem very hostile). -- Konig/talk 22:24, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
Oh, and I'm not really defending Nathe - his constant chatter to the devs of unnecessary topics rather stokes my ire. It's just that I found you to be wrong in that situation, and overbearing. -- Konig/talk 22:25, 5 December 2010 (UTC)


This is an admin warning to stop participating in revert wars. The proper course of action is to report it on the noticeboard and stop reverting. If the other person wants to get blocked, he can revert all he wants. Additionally, don't discuss on the noticeboard - this was mostly Backsword's fault, but you did respond with some discussion that doesn't particularly belong there. I'm not going to block you since your record is clean and the edits in question were pretty ridiculous, but don't just mindlessly revert a copyvio tag - they're supposed to be discussed before removing (then again, a copyvio tag on that page was so ridiculous I'm not sure what there is to discuss). -Auron 04:53, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Just to note: I never reverted the same edit more than once. And with a few exceptions the only times I did revert him, he either 1) put up blatant lies as his reason for the revert (and I quote "according to consensus" as his reason) or 2) as you said, the copyvio tag was ridiculous and blatantly incorrect.
In regards to the discussion, my first post was a notice, second and third was an update, and third was for reference in case the admin who would look into it would need/like quick links to the discussions in question. None of it was intended for discussion, and if he had commented, I would not have responded - at least, not on that page. I don't even consider myself having responded to him there, but rather because of him. -- Konig/talk 05:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm aware of what you reverted - it's more that you violated the spirit of the policy rather than the letter. The policy exists to frown on revert warring, we just have it worded in such a way that it can be used to wikilawyer. The warning was mostly for the second revert; the first was fine under normal circumstances (reverting the blanking of a page) but the second was too soon and not discussed enough. Again, not a huge deal, just try not to revert war in any form.
Your first couple updates on the AN were alright, but the last one in particular belonged on the talk page. Even if the other person is doing it wrong and discussing on the project page, put your comments on the talk page. -Auron 05:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
"we just have it worded in such a way that it can be used to wikilawyer" I know. ;) "put your comments on the talk page" I didn't realize an expansion-for-reference was considered discussion. I'll keep that in mind though. -- Konig/talk 05:20, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Zinn's laboratory

I left it redlinked in a couple of articles because I was hoping someone might be inspired to create the landmark article. Or do you think it's not necessary? (I defer to your judgment in this WiK/landmark question.)  — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 05:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

it should be made. But I'm at a disadvantage as 1) my laptop charger is not working and 2) I'm not used to internet on a cell phone, and It's hard, VERY hard to edit on a cell. -- Konig/talk 05:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't know why you'd link to my userpage anyways.-- Konig/talk 05:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)