User talk:Raine Valen/Archive 16

Puppies

have brave ears. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 00:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

That is an anagram for "Sup brah, see a PPIE RAVVE?". is for Raine, etc. 02:17, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Stop stealing my tag line.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:37, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Correction

I believe "That's like saying, 'I hope you live long and have many healthy children' before giving them AIDS." is much more effective than punching people in the genitalia. --RIDDLE 01:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Last I heard, ovaries aren't genitalia. I mean, you wouldn't walk down the street and say "Damn, look at the ovaries on that chick." elix Omni 01:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Superman would. -- Tha Reckoning 01:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

lol. is for Raine, etc. 02:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

I somehow doubt that an ovary would be cheery after taking a punch. is for Raine, etc. 02:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Seeping Wound

Hi Raine, I've read your article on why seeping wound is an overpowered skill and I have to say it's quite a complete explanation. Currently, I'm relatively bored of the game and writing articles about it more than playing it and the one I'm working on atm is "Overpowered Skills". I'm wondering if I could simply link to your page to explain why seeping wound is overpowered and of course give you credits for it. Sincerely, SylvXIII 21:50, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to use anything of mine. is for Raine, etc. 21:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks SylvXIII 22:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

ohai

How you been? So I hurd (let's just say a certain cat told me) you were talking about getting (the people of) [XVII] back together again. Just wanted to let you know that if you're serious about it, I'm up for it. I need to get back in the game. Idling in RA and trolling in AB just isn't as fun as GvG or HA. Lots of hugs and stuff, Blaze. BlazeRick 01:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

^ Tbh. I'm ready to burn Anet to the ground if I have to take any more of this playing with randoms bullshit. -- Tha Reckoning 01:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Guild Name Ideas?

Go!

1. Guild Name [tag]
2. Felix And Posse [FAP]
3. If I Die It Was [Lag]
4. Tomorrow I Really Quit [GW]

Sorted (and with a most elegant solution). PM me whenever, yeah? is for Raine, etc. 05:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

But I Already Uninstall [ups]. Vili 点 11:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Omg I would so want to join a Guild with a tag "FAP" o.o--/ u /nendingfear File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 14:15, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

GW blowssssss stick your accounts into our dead guild and come play RoM with me, Shard, Adrin and Underwood. Or go play WoW with Purge.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 21:02, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

RoM and WoW. They're the same. And RoM is worse even, if that's even possible. L4D2 ftw tbh. BlazeRick 00:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Whoru?--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 23:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Tabletop WH40k FTW!!! --Boro 10:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I r Blaze, internet womanizer and best Mesmer of all time. OF ALL TIME. Also, I love that comission on your userpage. Did you make it or did someone else make it for you?. BlazeRick 15:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. The one on my page was done for me, but in my mesmer's personal page are ones by me.--*Yasmin Parvaneh* 16:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Because I Deserve My Own Sub-Section

1. At The Bottom [Nadr]
2. Close Enough Cougar Edition [XXV]
3. Dshot Missed But You Mistargetd [WoH]
4. Enemy Guild [Lord]
5. Farming Bambi Iol Whats Bal[ance]
6. I Didnt Random Rrupt Its My [Ping]
7. I Swear She Said She Was [XIIX]
8. If Its Still Ancestral A B [Rage]
9. Im Actually Rank Fifteen [Bans]
10. Im Ranked But W H O R U [Who]
11. Infusing In The Shower lap[tops]
12. Its Not Ganking Yellow Is Just [Bad]
13. Knee Kos Me Ow And It Makes Die [Mad]
14. New Skill Balance Is Available [Fail]
15. Next Please Zzz [gggl]
16. Oh Shi We Got A Halls Skip [RA]
17. Ohai We Are From RA [Skip]
18. Our Ghostly Hero Dshot Infuse [gfg]
19. Prot Your Guild Lord For Free [Ecto]
20. R A Spikes Are Srs Bsns [prot]
21. Serious Guild Name [srs]
22. The Best Skill In Guild Wars [Tab]
23. Three Fame Wins In Halls [Skip]
24. Unique And Interesting Build [Grief]
25. Wai So Srs [Wai]
26. Wait Pls Fair Game Dont Start Yet [OO子]
27. We Lineback Until You [Pz]
28. We Quarter Knock With Gale [gggl]
29. Yarn Can Be Used To Divert The [Monk]

I'm sure there's more, but. Ryuu - Meow~ ♥ 23:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Playing From External H D [lag] -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 02:44, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Look Ma No G U I [UNIX]. Vili 点 17:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Haters Gonna [Hate]

P C E [out]

Resign Spike In Three Two [nou]

Is That A [sni]

Four Chan Is My Home [Page]

Also, guild lord & ghostly hero are not allowed in guild names dark chaos i love chaos 00:16, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It's XVIII. Not XIIX. BlazeRick 00:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Won't fit, and a lot of people won't know/notice the difference anyway. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 02:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I know. When I was making up guild names I was actually thinking of "Too Old For My Taste [XVIII]". As a continuation of [XVII]. But ye. BlazeRick 02:22, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Tombs Makes My Purple Bar Go [up]

How To Win Relic Runs [AFK]

PM S H A R D For [Ecto] (this one might still exist...)

Lol We Are The Only Group In [HA]

Afk While We Farm [NOPs] ~Shard 03:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Spores Molds and Fungus [EGON]

One Hundred Foot Marshmellow Man [Puft]

Don't Cross Teh Streams [Bad] --*Yasmin Parvaneh* 16:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

SBoon(PvE)

"No area in PvE is more hex heavy than a GvG team" - Uhmmm.. I'm pretty sure that any area that can be considered hex heavy is FAR more hex heavy than any PvP format in the history of GW. Especially in HM where everything has fast casting, everything has 100%HSP, and everything has 16-20 in everything. --Master Briar 10:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Even though hexes can be everywhere in PvE, you'll have like 3 or 4 of the same foe, which means even though they together have like 12 hexes, it'll count as spamming only 4 hexes. ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Its Still more hex heavy. 4 or 5 enemies spamming the same hexes mean those hexes never come off. And trust me, Illusion of pain dealing 12 damage per second on all 7 of your team-mates and yourself is much worse than any GvG team you could possibly even try to throw together. --Master Briar 10:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Measured in quantity of hexes/target, that still isn't as hex heavy as a GvG team :> ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

True but I dont recall Quantity of hexes being the thing that won in hexway teams. I seem to remember it being the imba nature of the hexes (and other skills) used (you know, Powerful effect, long duration, and difficulty of removal). In terms of pure pressuring ability, PvE kicks the living shit out of PvP. Also I don't seem to remember any PvP team having an earshot range AoE knockdown. Let alone multiple copies of it. I also don't recall any PvP team with a level 26 player. Let alone 8 of them. And while we're on it, I don't ever recall seeing a PvP player with 3 professions. --Master Briar 10:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't think anything of that makes PvE more hex heavy than a hexway :> ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 10:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

"8 Level 26 players" <- That makes it much more hex heavy. "AoE earshot range KD's" that they time perfectly as inturupts when your trying to take a hex off your ally or rez a dead ally also makes it much more hex heavy albeit very indirectly. the last part was just one more interesting thing you'll find in PvE that you will never see in PvP. Ever. :> --Master Briar 11:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

i was gonna respond seriously, but lol. if you don't see the flaws in your argument already, i'm not gonna bother pointing them out. -Auron 11:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Protip, In PvE, More than one enemy has suffering. So the hex is gonna pop right back onto that ally. =O! Another Protip, In HM PvE, Suffering Does four degen. And its on practically your entire party. And its being stacked with 12 other hexes (because monsters have bars that somehow extend outside the normal range) to stack up to the 10 degen cap. So what do you do once you've diverted it twice and it keeps re-appearing because (as stated before) everything has Fast casting, Everything has 100% HSP and everything has ridiculously imba ammounts of energy and attribute strength. Still no one has commented about the whole 16-20 in every attribute or the fact that PvE mobs come in like... Billions.... >.> --Master Briar 11:18, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Because Suffering (3 degen) hurts more than like say, VoR, and Soul Bind, and Diversion, and Shame, and Faintheartedness, and Seeping Wound, and Defile Defenses, and Empathy, and Backfire, and etc., all coming from just one team. Don't try to compare PvE with organised PvP. It's silly and impossible. Also, you have them Paragon shouts and stuff. BlazeRick 12:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah cuz monsters in PvE totally don't carry VoR anywhere in the game. Oh and they totally dont have it at a point where they can do almost 150 damage with it. Oh and they totally cant hold it down on 2 party members simultaneously (again, HSR). Oh and btw, Dryders say hi. (the eotn ones not the ele ones). --Master Briar 12:59, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh and while your giving me shit for comparing PvE to PvP, Please read the very first sentence in this section. Like up there at the top. Really. Please. Im begging you. --Master Briar 13:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Briar; don't be dumb. -Cursed Angel 13:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Idc about any sentence. Just saying it is futile. BlazeRick 16:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Briar; the reason why hexes are so overpowered in PvP is because the only decent counter is Divert Hexes, which is useless against non-hex teams. But if you know for sure you're not going to go up against non-hex teams... -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 16:34, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Pick out the most intense hexway you can find in PvE and post the bars here, k? is for Raine, etc. 19:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Blood Bond

Blood Renewal

Life Siphon

Life Transfer

Strip Enchantment

Vampiric Swarm

Dryder's Feast

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Feast of Corruption

Reckless Haste

Price of Failure

Malaise

Soul Barbs

Vocal Minority

Dryder's Feast

Blank

Blood Renewal

Life Siphon

Malign Intervention

Rising Bile

Soul Leech

Well of Blood

Dryder's Feast

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Corrupt Enchantment

Defile Flesh

Faintheartedness

Parasitic Bond

Soul Barbs

Suffering

Dryder's Feast

[[]]

Lets just start with this one because it seems to be the hexway that consists of the most actual hexes. I'm pretty sure that soul leech fills the spot of VoR/Backfire and that Reckless/Failure does the same job as empathy. Or we can just try these fun fellas with 20 in illusion magic. --Master Briar 20:06, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The Water/Soul/Mind Tormentors in Gloom are probably worse, and that's still easy if you have a good PaH monk.--neshot 20:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

First thing that matters in a hexway is, of course, the hexes. These are the Dryders from SoD, iirc. Though they have tons of hexes, they have very few dangerous ones.

The first is Soul Leech - look at it: it's hardly maintainable on one person, and that's the entirety of their caster hate. Furthermore, they're just as likely to put it on an ele as they are to put it on a monk. What do real hexways have in terms of general caster hate? VoR and Backfire. One's AoE, and the other is, in practice, just as strong as Soul Leech.

The next thing they've got is Reckless Haste, Faintheartedness, and Price of Failure. Those are two exceptionally annoying anti-melee hexes, yeah. What do real hexways bring in terms of anti-melee? They bring Empathy, Faintheartedness, Insidious Parasite, and Guardian. What's more, real hexways apply them properly: Empathy and Insidious will alway go on axe warriors or assassins, and Faintheartedness will always be on hammer warriors or dervishes. Many hexways also bring one or more copies of weakness, but that's not even necessary.

The last dangerous hex here is Rising Bile. It's good here for the same reason it's good in real hexways: people degen out of safe zones and then Bile gets kills. Most real hexways don't take Rising Bile, they take Wounding Strike. Imagine Rising Bile going off every 5-6 seconds (less against bad teams).

In terms of direct healing prevention, Dryders bring Defile Flesh. Real hexways? Lingeing Curse, Deep Wound, and Soul Bind. Compare "heal 20% less" to "heal 40% less and take 80 damage every time you do".

What about enchantment removal? Dryders have Strip and Corrupt, which are, admittedly, very good at killing enchantments. But it could be worse! They could have, say, Well of the Profane, which basically reads "turn target altar or choke point into a death trap", on top of two or three targeted enchant removals.

Damage? Dryders have wanding (that doesn't even trigger SB on a 600), Feast of Corruption, and Dryder's Feast. Of the three, only the last one really blows people up (and quite well, actually). Hexways have a dervish and fire ele. They have two characters completely devoted to blowing people up (and quite well, actually).

And the last one is the big one: what do Dryders have for support? Well of Blood and their own lifesteal. Real hexways? They've got a necro with rit weapons and two real, working monks. If you want to kill a dryder so they stop hexing you, there's very, very little to stop you from doing it. Real hexways, on the other hand, have players completely dedicated to it.

So which would YOU rather play against: dryders or a real hexway? is for Raine, etc. 20:34, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Obvious answer is obvious. To be sure. But I was trying to point out that PvE can be just as hex heavy as a hexway team. With heavier hexes as well(still missing the big one here, multiple copies of an illusion of pain/migraine combo that are at Twenty Illusion Magic). If you were talking about the severity of certain teams we could start discussing Slaver's Exile or maybe Ravenheart Gloom? --Master Briar 20:46, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I have but one thing to add. PvElol. If you're a troll, you're mighty succesful. If you're not. Well... I don't know but, you frigging lost me then. BlazeRick 21:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess I should probably clarify by stating that the IoP is anywhere in Tarnished Coast where there are frogs. And where there are frogs there are alot of frogs. With alot of caster hate. ALOT of caster hate. Tbh the only reason I would choose PvE in HM over PvP is because when you die /res-shrine and then throw up a DP removal or 2. Oh and the fact that you can use Lame-way tactics. If I had to use PvP versions of skills in PvE, in HM, Anywhere in the game, I would probably (edit) rather play RA on ZNoob day. --Master Briar 21:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

*a lot -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 21:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Raine just got trolld --dark chaos i love chaos 22:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

RA

Playing as a ranger, bsurge or dev hammer win most your matches in my experience. InfestedHydralisk 22:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I did reasonably well on a MB ele with 18 fire magic and glyphsac reschant. is for Raine, etc. 22:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd take dev hammer off that list, warriors have the short end of the stick in RA. I'd say around 7 times out of 10 you take the aggro and sit the match out because you got shut down by faint, bsurge, empathy, etc. -- Tha Reckoning 22:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

With Dev Hammer it actually goes pretty good, just qknock shit and win! Axe and Sword are a little meh. InfestedHydralisk 23:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Kinda hard to qknock when you're range raped by faint empathy or bsurge before you can build adrenaline. You have to get really really really lucky to be able to actually do something in rounds without a monk spamming hex/cond removals on recharge on you in there. -- Tha Reckoning 23:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I always take Dshot or Iron Palm, that mostly does the job. InfestedHydralisk 23:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Never have liked Iron Palm, but I might try dshotting, I don't see that it would make much of a difference in this meta though. -- Tha Reckoning 23:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

unless you have a dshot that hits 4 people at once and is on a 1s cooldown, it won't. -Auron 00:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I take lion's comfort on hammer war. It's nice because you can take pressure off your monk while building adrenaline. If you've already got it built, it's nice to use in yout down time when you can't hit stuff for whatever reason (blind, empathy, etc). And Echarge + Lion's comfort = dev hammer, so that's always nice. is for Raine, etc. 00:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I just take antidote signet on mine so I can still bash people's faces in. →[ »Halogod (talk)« ]← 00:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You are all terrible, except maybe Hydra. Warriors aren't bad in RA at all. Killing something in three button presses will never be underpowered. If you don't want 32672536453 hexes, don't take the aggro. It sounds stupid, but RA players are NPCs, abuse their AI. I've been running axe and the new big domoge hammers a fair bit in RA recently and been cleaning up. Misery 06:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Warriors aren't underpowered, their counters are overpowered. Also, why kill something in 3 button presses on a profession that requires skill, when you can do it without thinking? -- Tha Reckoning 07:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Because I get bored doing that. Misery 07:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Linebacking makes you win the game. InfestedHydralisk 14:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Research

I was wondering if I could get your help. I'm conducing an ethnography on high-PvP guilds in Guild Wars, for my thesis. I've passed the preemptory stages and would like to move onto observation, but no less, I have no connections on the insides of these guilds nor have I found success in substantiating my good faith through the minimal contact of random PMs. Since it seems you are an upstanding and knowledgeable member of this community, I'd be wholly grateful if I could make my proposition to you and/or your guild. My ign is Sec Qr Euin, I am on every day. Thanks for your time. 141.165.171.176 01:23, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I'd offer to help, but I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. More english less latin, go. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 01:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

"You seem to be a well known person in high end PvP, Im doing a survey on the populace of High end PvP, Help?"

Just guessing though. --Master Briar 01:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I already got a helpful responce from Raine, in game, but thank you. ;) 141.165.171.176 01:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Even I understood that Armond, and I'm just a euro. BlazeRick 02:11, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

PvX is probably a better place for that, even though the responses you'll get will likely be worse :> ---Chaos?- (moo!) -- 11:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

QQ forums actually or somewhere like #GWP or #Buildwars on IRC. I will point out briefly that almost every player on every wiki is terrible. Same could be said about QQ forums and the IRC channels, but they do have a handful of top players. Misery 11:53, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

qq forums are worth reading the first posts, that's about it. post quality is usually remarkably high for the first post or two of each thread, but drops precipitously. nowadays it's just full of fags since most of the good players have realized the game is bad and have stopped playing. –The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jette (talk • contribs). 11:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't saying to read the forums, but if you are actually interested in getting in contact with top guilds, that would be a place to try. Even the guys who don't play any more tend to know who does and is legit. Misery 11:59, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice, all. I have done a good amount of research and basal observation, and so I've had some contact with the Guild War's forums (and sadly, after examining GW's PvP, I'd have to agree with Jette for the better part -_-'). I have gotten into Vent Rage though, who currently stand at #18 and hopefully will be able to talk to its leader about a more extensive process soon. If that doesn't work out, I may try the forums, thanks. :) 141.165.171.180 01:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I... wouldn't recommend [vR]. is for Raine, etc. 01:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh. :0 Um, well, the friend you referred me to was in the Get Good alliance. Should I opt for them instead? 141.165.171.180 01:52, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I would recommend watching [rawr]. Awowa's godly monking causes rawr to never take any damage. Srsly. ~Shard 02:04, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I've watched old tapes of [rawr] and I do agree. :) The process of an ethnography requires interviews and many kinds of direct observation, e.g. listening to a guild's Ventrillo correspondence during a GvG match. I would love to have [rawr] as my subject, but I would rank them as among the hardest to get into contact with, having no prior contact with them. I acknowledge that there is likely a means that I am overlooking, so I am still very receptive to input. 141.165.171.180 02:09, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

They love to have their e-peen stroked, I doubt you'd have much trouble getting on their vent for a match if you told them your plan. -Auron 02:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Haha, would you suggest anyone in particular as an inside contact? :) 141.165.171.180 02:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Anyone except for polly or asp. -Auron 14:03, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'm posting under the same topic for consistency. I've contacted several guilds, including members of [rawr], who have told me each that their guild is entirely inactive and therefore an unfitting subject for observation. If there are guilds with serious experience which may be willing to be documented by an unobtrusive observer, I'd be glad for the assistance in their discovery. As for now, I've received declines from members of [sC], [yumy], [rawr] and [OD] - and have subsequently been referred away from the [GG] Alliance. Thank you all for your assistance as yet and hence. 141.165.170.90 04:23, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

PM B Magee; he's lead of [GG]. Really nice guy, should have no problem.

If he has a problem, tell him I'll keep his pants forever unless he obliges. is for Raine, etc. 04:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you again, for all your help, Raine. I'm currently in [IWAY], as they are active HA'ers and semi-active in GvG, though I'm still entirely open to feedback. 141.165.170.66 17:36, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

^this being done by way of your contact. I realized I didn't clarify that. 141.165.170.66 20:59, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Quote

Why am I the purple one and B the green one? You suggesting I'm gay? BlazeRick 04:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes. is for Raine, etc. 04:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm totally not homophobic btw. Just prefer to be heterosexual, that's all. BlazeRick 04:23, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Meh, being straight is no fun =/--/ u /nendingfear File:User Unendingfear Avatar.png 04:30, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Speaking as someone who's bi, both of those options suck. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 22:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I find it problematic

that I can guess the skill bars of every team member and the general flow of each match just by knowing 1 skill. is this liek taht tihng wrhee if you scitwh the lteerts in the mdilde of wrdos auonrd, ppeole slitl konw waht you maen? –Jette 04:15, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Kind of sad, isn't it? Also, I put alt text on the skill icons, so if you hover over them, you can get more info. :3 is for Raine, etc. 04:21, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Jesus, Jette, that only works for most people. Stop maeking brain hurt. -- Armond Warblade{{Bacon}} 22:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

[1]

Explain how was I trolling. --Myotheraccount 22:00, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Do I look like a bitch? is for Raine, etc. 22:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

That depends on your definition of bitch tbh. elix Omni 22:42, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

/snickers --Master Briar 22:45, 14 April 2010 (UTC)