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CAP

I told Wyn but I forgot to tell you xD. We are judging from today to the 30th, just read the professions and score them.  :-) --ShadowphoenixPlease, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-; 12:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Shadowphoenix/CAP/Criteria for help on what to judge on... --ShadowphoenixPlease, talk to me; I'm so lonely ;-; 16:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Unlike in AB, this CAP actually wins on its own. :D Noctarch 22:11, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
punpunpunpunpunpunpun - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Trivia

This user's name may be a reference to the common saying "Wer ist da? Yo, ich halt!".

:D Noctarch 23:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

rofl, i have to deny that, though :P more like A: "so who're you?" - B: "well... me" (=joo... ich halt) - C: "ya, him, can't describe it better". - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:26, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Could mean along the lines of "Simply me" If I remember my German correctly. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 17:31, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

poke

*unblockable poke that for some reason removes enchants 2 ow wait its elite shure that makes it balanced* Lilondra User Lilondra Eviscerate.jpg*poke* 20:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

good i wasn't enchanted anyway. still, how dare you poke me with an elite poke? *double pokes* - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:48, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

The Chess Tourney

No move from nuke in 4 days, I get to call victory at this point right? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Nvm, I remembered 72 hours rule, and I think that wraps up round 1. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 22:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
oki - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:48, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What's NPA and what is sarcasm?

I mean this:

Archive

Hey Izzy, I assume you don't mind us archiving old and answered topics from your talk page; if I'm incorrect in saying that, just say. Also, feel free to tell us what kind of things you want or don't want on this talk page so its usefulness can be increased :); we're all willing to help. -- Brains12 \ talk 19:02, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah feel free, I'm super bad at archiving (aka I'm super lazy) thank you <3 Izzy @-'---- 18:10, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
We know that you are 91.0.242.225 03:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Noctarch (talk).

i'd say it depends on whether someone feels personally attacked or not. i've had a pretty bad case of sarcasm taken as personal attack myself... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I forgot to sign? I am sorry... However, I cannot help myself. I feel like some people do something they aren't allowed to; they clean up another user's talk page. Noctarch 17:50, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
as long as izzy is ok with it, there's nothing bad about that. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I strongly suppose that wasn't sarcasm. His comment seems to be very delicious troll food. :P I'm quite sure this section will get reverted some more times... —ZerphatalkThe Improver 18:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Sarcasm is lost on the internet generaly unless you specificaly state it's sarcasm. Heck sarcasm often fails irl too. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 18:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
wolf, i really hate you! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
The feeling is mutual. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 18:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
i was serious :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Whats to say I wasnt? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 18:40, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
wow, i can't even tell anymore whether this is sarcasm or not xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:52, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
And thats why sarcasm fails on the internet =D — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 18:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
we could've used smileys :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:01, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
If only I could believe the words of any one of you. Noctarch 19:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
@Y0 Smilies are always fun =D — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 19:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) @everyone: get on irc :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

IRC? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 19:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
irc.gamesurge.net#gww - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:13, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
No matter what that said sentence is. You should think about it. It's a grim reminder (*cough*) and still days pass by without much of a try to solve this situation. Of course, you do make things taken as mistakes when you live and obviously not everyone's gonna like what you did. But sometimes you should think about your "opposite" and why he criticized you - maybe in a way that's as badass as your actions were to him or her. Noctarch 19:14, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
hmm... what's your point right now? i've lost track of the discussion through this off-topic spam (usual for me on wikis). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I mean let's judge the one on Isaiah's page as a ranting user which just violated the talk page. However, to me this seems to be an alert. Many people were complaining about Isaiah's work before the Smiter's Boon incident (just read some pages for myself) but I think it grew with and after it. Maybe, maybe he could some day consider a better solution for that, similar incidents and perhaps following ones. If you rethink your actions because of an attack against you it doesn't mean you favor your aggressor - it just means you caught what he or she meant. Noctarch 19:46, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
yes, maybe there'd be less drama if izzy just listened to what people say. he has to get the generally biggest problems through comments like that, so he could just look up the suggestions and pick one he likes. i can understand why many ppl hate him to be honest :rolleyes: - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I totally agree. Understanding is not accepting (the way they criticize). Noctarch 20:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
i bet they neither understand nor accept. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:31, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

IRC

I'm gunna start a new topic for this and not lead the other one into further digression. Whats is IRC and how do I go about using it? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 19:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

it's a chat network. you just install a client and go about chatting as you want. if you're using mozilla, it's especially easy since you don't even need to install any software. in that case, you go to [1], install the addon. then restart firefox (the addon installation now complete), menu extras -> ChatZilla. now enter /attach irc.gamesurge.net, then /join #gww and - tada - there you are in the gww irc chatroom and can spam everyone. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:33, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
What about with IE? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 19:36, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
you can dl mozilla and do what i described above (strongly recommended), or you can download an irc client, for example trillian or mIRC (the see also section of w:IRC has some more). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I think I'll grab a client then. I've never had much of a good run with mozilla :P — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 19:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
no. get firefox. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:32, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Handing Y0 ich halt his popular Obey-Me-O-Glasses. Noctarch 20:37, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
*stares* you will use mozilla, wolf! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:44, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
NEVER! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
YOU WILL! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Your Jedi Mind-tricks have no affect on me! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:18, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
in that case i'm disenchanting you right now, and ending your stance. now, OBEY! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Your powers are weak old man! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I got it: He's toydarian. Your pitiful jedi tricks won't work - only money. Noctarch 21:26, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) you call me old man? (btw, i finished reading brisingr today. wanna know who dies? do you? DO YOU?) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:27, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
I KNOW TOO!!! I finished a few datys ago. Need to update mah user page. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:28, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
it's a shame they didn't even kill or cripple thorn or murtagh. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:29, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Brisingr

Spoiler alert: The following text contains spoilers relating to the story of Brisingr.

And I totally saw it comming too! As soon as they said they where leaving Ellesmera for the attack on Gil'ead I thought, freakin crap, they are TOTALY gunna get it. I rofl'ed at how the shade only lasted what would be minutes in the book. He got PWNED! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

ya :D (over to your talk page nao) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:35, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
kkz. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:37, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Having trouble getting an edit through on mah page >.< nvm, Im good now. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:39, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 21:42, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
It likes to take a LONG time to go through when I dont indent correctly XD — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

CAP

I am postponing judging another week. I need to know if you are going to be able to them all juged by Sunday. If you cannot, tell me now and I will find someone who can. I cannot keep delaying this. Thank You --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 12:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

a)i think i'll be able to do it this week and b) i think you'd be very well able to delay it again xD - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:42, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
I agree with b) :P poke | talk 17:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
for b, I just don't want to delay it again, therefore I won't delay it again... will be sending out a message to all the participants today for this delay and I dont want to have to send out a third delay notice..... --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 18:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
i personally wouldn't even send out messages. people will have to look up the page for their rating anyway, so the notice there would be enough ^^ - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
I am not going to, AWB is being buggy and I can't be bothered to find out whats wrong with it... You right, they will need to look at the page to see the score anyway --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 15:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Nice that I know that ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 15:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

This Movie

Ever seen it? — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 00:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

nope. i'll have to check whether our video store has it. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I heard it was good. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 15:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
what is it about? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I have no idea, I just had to leave a trap on your page tho XD — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 16:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
o.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
I might remind you of this. I just lost The Gaem >.< — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 17:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
does that make you a loser? xD IjltG - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


Need help with some maths

I'm trying to get a function that inputs xp and outputs your current level. This is what I have so far (where X is the xp, and L is the level): User Ebany Salmonderiel Myeq.pngCake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 16:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Umm i dont see a point with that lol :\ are you looking at raw exp or like exp per kill? — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
rofl, no. he's looking for User:Y0 ich halt/Templates/VirtualLvl. just that he (like me, too) doesn't want to describe the levels 1-23 each for its own, but with one single function. i tried it, too, and got to the result that it actually can't be put inside one function. how did you get to what you have now? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
/doh i get it now. I think anet might have curved it so the survivor is it 1337million exp. (So it wouldn't be a constant function but more of a piecewise possibly?) — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Ill see what it looks like in a graph see if i can get a nice equation — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) that's why i said it's not one function ;) from lvl 23 on it's linear, that's for sure, but before that... it's a function of growth that is neither linear nor logistic or exponential. that means the best you could do is define functions for each two or three steps. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
@seru: i have a calculator that can automatically calculate rational functions and functions of growth only from coordinates given, and there is not a single one that even starts at (0|0) (as the calculator will return an average function if there's no fitting one). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Ah. I gotz a 86, 89, 92 around. Hmm im not sure then. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
casio cfx-9850gb - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Thanks for that template, Y0. That's nearly what I needed (but I can use #ifexpr to limit it 0-20). —Cake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 17:14, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

check the template code, that's exactly what it does ;) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:19, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
No, I want it to display a number from 0-20 for the level, not, say, 42. PS. want to carry on that game of chess?—Cake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 17:28, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
that's a nice idea. i'll add it into my template. i totally forgot people could want that, too, since i intended it to be used for calculation of the level your character would have without lvl cap :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:02, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
I have an approximate equation, from completing the square, but it isn't perfect. Here is what I have so far: sqrt((2048.33 + T(n))/300) - 1.833 = nCake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 16:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
T is experience and n is level? how'd you get this? it's pretty good. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
T(n) is experience (the nth term), and n is the level. I got this from the equation I worked out:
  1. T(n) = 300n² - 900n + 600 + 2000(n-1)
  2. T(n) = 300n² - 900n + 2000n + 600 - 2000
  3. T(n) = 300n² + 1100n - 1400
    Complete the square
  4. T(n)/300 = (n + 1.833)² - 3.3611 - 4.666 -8.0277
  5. sqrt(T(n)+(8.0277*300)/300) = n + 1.833
  6. -1.833 +/- sqrt(T(n)+(8.0277*300)/300) = n
Just completing the square, that's all. —Cake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 17:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
how'd you get to the very first equation? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
Uh... 3 sides of A4, which I no longer have, plus some trial and error in excel. —Cake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 17:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
well, that's the more interesting part you trashed there... (btw, i'd reduce the function above to sqrt(8.0278 + T(n)/300) - 1.833 = n ;) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:02, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

testing with the calculator says the function is rather accurate until roughly 250k xp (i.e. lvl 27). (i knew it was gonna be a sqrt function if anything, i knew it! i guess i was just too lazy to actually think more closely about it :D this wins me a whole 5 euro bet income!). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

as for implementation on this wiki, doesn't seem to work as {{#expr: doesn't know sqrt. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

can't write it as a ^(1/2)? WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 06:55, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
nope, doesn't know ^ either. exp and e^x neither... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Perfect function: User Ebany Salmonderiel Myeq2.pngCake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 21:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
you could change that part to 121000 + 1200*(1400+T(n)), but basically it's the same with even numbers :D how do you make those formula pics? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Office 2008 and printscreen? Lookin' good. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
aw, fuck office08. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

i have 6,783,567 xp whats my lvl? O.o Annoying And Deadly 22:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

463 - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
By they way, why not add your function to the Experience page, in some way? Armor rating and Damage calculation have similar images on them. :) WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
i want a link to my template in that case D: - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

um couldnt you just do lvl={(xp-182600)/15000}+23, but that only works is charchater is above lvl 23 Annoying And Deadly 22:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC) and its off slightly, but rounding fixes that Annoying And Deadly 22:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

we looked for a function for levels 0-20, and this one is pretty accurate (~2 decimals) from 4-23. i still want someone to tell me how to get to that function in the first place. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 22:47, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
why must math be so complicated when you havent leanred that stuff yet? Annoying And Deadly 22:50, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
you can use User:Y0 ich halt/Templates/VirtualLvl for lvl calculation. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 23:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I used the math tags on wikipedia, and saved the image they produced. And according to excel, it's a perfect function. —Cake! Ebañy Salmonderiel 13:52, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Mr Yo

When you start with your judging??? I want judging!!! ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 10:20, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

When it comes to judging, I could go in for that xD ... Doubt that it'd be objective though. Hmm, I really do wonder why he doesn't do it. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Ehm... you have me strucked ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 16:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Stricken or struck? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
English class 101 xD -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 18:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
btw, it's both stricken and struck. personal choice :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:40, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Same heading, different topic. Mr Y0, could you swap the positions of the archive table and the talk jumper? At the moment I always have to scroll to down for the feature that's probably used more. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:39, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
there's a key called "pg dn" right above your "right arrow" key :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm lazy. And it actually is called "Bild v" ;) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Ratings

Why are you giving lower scores just because it "goes in order"?- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 21:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Are you referring to mine? --TalkAntioch 21:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, and he's done it to another one as well.- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 21:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
i didn't just lower or raise ratings because they "went in order", but because they weren't justified compared to other ratings. that's what happens if you rate stuff before you've read all of them. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't like my score O.O (hoping that Yo was joking ^^) |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 15:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
how was the flying meant? fly around freely like birds or float like e.g. the kuunavang minipet? (won't affect my score as that's really a minor issue). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:00, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
more like floating but somewhat higher then the minipet ^^ |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 16:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
what i mean is, would they only be in the air visually or could they fly above other stuff? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:04, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I try to say that your are floating and moving faster then normal. Attacks on you have a higher change to miss... |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 16:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
but would you be able to fly over other ppl or could you still be bodyblocked? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Bodyblocking is difficult but possible |Cyan LightUser Cyan Light SB.jpgBoooh!!!| 16:50, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
mhm. can't really imagine how that would look... :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, you rerated because you didn't read it all? Not trying to offend, that actually makes a little more sense.- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 16:47, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

now how did you get to that? o.O i'm saying that i rated some of the entries before i had read all of them. later i went back to those to adjust ratings if they weren't fitting in comparison to what i gave others later. what's wrong with that? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
That's exactly what I said. I understand that. Nothing wrong with it, it makes sense. It was just your wording, "in relation to other ratings" that threw me off.- VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:20, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
ah, i think now i get it. you thought in relation to the other judges' ratings? and i misread "that actually makes a little more sense." <- i overlooked that "a". funny how that letter makes it the opposite :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:28, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
xD Exactly! Now we get each other, haha! - VanguardUser-VanguardAvatar.PNG 17:33, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Bleargh....

I have been experiencing a form of epic fail known as "I can't arrange piano music to save my life". I might have some luck on a techno peace I just arranged, but....no promises >___<. Any luck on your end? --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 22:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

well... everytime i think "got nothing to do, how about going on with our piece" i'm listening to other music, and that doesn't go well with composing :D as for techno, keep in mind that i have a piano, not a synthesizer :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Lol, not to worry, thats all I have xD. I think I can convert it into something piano worthy though. You should see some of the rap songs I've converted...they make wonderful ballads =D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 13:18, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
send me some. (wikimail) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
I shall. Though, does your notation software suppoort .MUS files? o.O --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Finale Notepad, i.e. yes. i think it's the standard sheet format aside from .pdf or course :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:21, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Ah, very good! Just making sure. ^.^. I'll send some of the music I've made to ya. :D --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

eh

waffles? you want waffles? lol :0 Wafflez 05:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I love them! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 06:16, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
who doesn't? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
He doesn'tSeru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 13:46, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
orly? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:05, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
If he hates waffles, everyone in the RoT must hate them..... --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 16:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
That would bee a good concusion. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 17:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
i think RoT loves waffles more than anyone else. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:59, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
So why is it "The Realm of Torment" if everyone likes waffles? You'd think that'd be paradise....O_O --User Wandering Traveler Oie User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 19:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
because there are no waffles there. those people are starved to death, always hallucinating about waffles, waffles, waffles... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
well... not to death but rather to eternity. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:51, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
well...not to eternity but rather to madness. Oh, madness? This.. is.. RoT! Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:02, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Nom nomm nommm.... WAFFLES!! ^^ Wafflez 22:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

it r deleecous wafflz, u must nom nom eet. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:14, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
iz my nom nom! --TalkAntioch 16:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

they are ftw?? O_O TalkW a f f l e z 22:23, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

more than that. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:59, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
waffles suck. --Cancer Angel y so srs? 17:29, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
BLASTPHEMY! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:36, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Sig

I was just thinking you should split up you signature name like Y0_ich_halt, lol just an idea and just imo — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 04:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

if you want a link to my talk page, the image now is one ;) the additional link would only make my sig longer, which i don't want. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:38, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
now too much. but eh it's your sig :D yay i made Y0 do something ;)Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
it would nearly double the code: Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
<tt>[[User:Yo|Y0]]_[[User talk:Yo|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:kartika;font-size:130%">ich_halt</span>]]</tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]
[[User:Yo|<tt>Y0_<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:kartika;font-size:130%">ich_halt</span></tt>]] [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]
Makes it not too much longer if you do it this way. — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 15:20, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
i don't like it, though :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
o.O — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 16:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
The Y0 will not yeild on this. — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Wow, that is a really long code O.O. -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 21:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
From what I've seen here, you are the one with the longest code in your sig, blood :P As I press the "Save page" button, I pray mine turns out to be shorter than yours.. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:32, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) [[User:Wings of Blood|<font color="darkorange">'''W'''</font><font color="#660000">''o''</font><font color="darkorange">'''B'''</font>]] [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]] VS <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:Chiller">[[User:Why Are We Fighting|<span style="color:#808080">— '''Why'''</span>]][[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]] are you sure? xD -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 02:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

as that is hard to tell who's is who's. Sorry about that. -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 02:11, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I fail :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 05:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

let's compare: mine

[[User:Yo|<tt>Y0_<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:kartika;font-size:130%">ich_halt</span></tt>]] [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]

Seru's proposal

<tt>[[User:Yo|Y0]]_[[User talk:Yo|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;font-family:kartika;font-size:130%">ich_halt</span>]]</tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]

Blood's

[[User:Wings of Blood|<font color="darkorange">'''W'''</font><font color="#660000">''o''</font><font color="darkorange">'''B'''</font>]] [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]]

Why's

<span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:Chiller">[[User:Why Are We Fighting|<span style="color:#808080">— '''Why'''</span>]][[Image:User Why Are We Fighting BlackRose.PNG|User talk:Why Are We Fighting]]</span>

clear to me :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:53, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Ploop. *imitates WiiFit's balance board's voice* Measuring...

PoA's

[[Image:User PoA Sig.png|Talk]]<span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; color:blue">Antioch</span>

--TalkAntioch 15:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

well, you're cheating :P your image name is shorter, you don't have a link to your user page in the text and your text formatting doesn't require a size change. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
(it's the easiest way to stay best. declare all better ones cheaters) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:08, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
*Phoenix Wright* NO U! ;-) --TalkAntioch 16:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Objection! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
To avoid a possible NPA, I'll link this off site and mention that this is a funny. lol--TalkAntioch 16:36, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
rofl, who'd feel npad here? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 16:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Just in case, and I wouldn't want a blemish on my record. Plus, I wanted to upload this, but I have a feeling it would get copyvio instantly. --TalkAntioch 16:41, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Short versions of above mentioned sigs:
[[User:Yo|<tt>Y0_<span style="font: small-caps 1.3em kartika;">ich_halt</span></tt>]] [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]
<tt>[[User:Yo|Y0]]_[[User talk:Yo|<span style="font: small-caps 1.3em kartika;">ich_halt</span>]]</tt> [[Image:User Y0_ich_halt sig.png|18px]]
[[User:Wings of Blood|<b style="color: #FF8C00;">W<i style="font-weight: normal; color: #600;">o</i>B</b>]] [[Image:User Wings of Blood sig icon.png|19px]]
:P poke | talk 16:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
Btw. I won in code length :P poke | talk 16:57, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
"gureito" the japanese would say :rolleyes: :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
/facepalm --TalkAntioch 17:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
— [[User:Seru|<span style="color:Red; font-family:st old english; ">Seru</span>]]  [[Image:User Seru Sig2.png|19px]] <small>''[[User talk:Seru|Talk]]''</small>

My sig! — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 17:44, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

*ponders* Hmm, this topic makes me really sig. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 20:00, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I won in code lenght. At least my sig doesn't break around corners. :P Btw, this is the first time I see someone breaking his own talk page.. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 22:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm glad mine' doesn't break anything.. well does not appear to me xD -- WoB User Wings of Blood sig icon.png 01:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
For some reason, I feel like this is some kind of masculine-type contest of length, as per Why. Just my thought. Why not pull it out and whip out the pixel ruler? lol --TalkAntioch 04:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Lol, I'm not really proud of having such a long sig.. this topic is going nowhere fast. WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 06:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Btw. if you don't believe me: The code gives the same appearance as your sigs have right now, so you are allowed to change it :P poke | talk 07:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
last word - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:49, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
no u :P poke | talk 16:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
nevar! - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:00, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
Oh you guys are quite funny. Please, go on. --TalkAntioch 17:55, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
yes, you may leave now. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

ChaCha

oi, if you're srsly interested:

http://becomeaguide.chacha.com/index.php/guide-roles

That's the page. You're probably going to end up being a regular, standard guide; that's what I am, and I'm pretty damn sure we make more than expeditors and transcribers. I don't know why they pretend there's a difference between specialists and generalists, because I get both types of questions regardless. As my team mate... thing, I get 10% of what you make every month deposited to me. I don't steal it, of course. :P You make 100% of what you make always, and then they give me 10% of that, so it'd be great if you do get interested in it.

It's not easy to pass the guide test, so if you want my help beforehand, my xfire is vaelvictus. Good luck with it. Vael Victus Pancakes. 20:41, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

there's just one little problem that might occur. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:51, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
o.o; Which is? Vael Victus Pancakes. 21:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
i'm only 17. that would most likely make it illegal. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:00, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
As long as you aren't blonde.. and have long hair xD Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:35, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
the registrations says pretty clearly i need to be 18. and yes, i am blond. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
but hey, blond only applies for female :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I only referred to the song.. yea, I think it was about a female ^^ Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:46, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
DAMN! Yeah, you need to fill out a W9 form. :( Oh well. :( When is your bday? Vael Victus Pancakes. 20:17, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
next year, march 2nd. another problem might be that i live in germany. would it? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 12:02, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Well I lose. :( Indeed it would be. Thanks anyway, sorry to get your hopes up. Vael Victus Pancakes. 18:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
damn it, and here i thought i'd got my new pc paid. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:10, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Could you help me please?

I tried to make a table of trophies in my discussion page, but it didn't turn out to be a table at all. Could you fix it for me? (You'll understand what i mean when you go into the edit section.) Thanks in advance! On a side note, do you think that section should go in my user page? -- UglyLooking 19:21, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

that's a matter of basic wiki formatting. i'll explain the relevant points here:
  1. no matter how many spaces between two words, they will always appear as only one space (look at this sentence's code to see that)
  2. therefore you can't make a table simply by spacing.
  3. to make an actual table, you may want to see User:Y0 ich halt/Guides/UPG#Tables after reading this post ;)
  4. a space at the beginning of a code line will have the effect shown below.
  5. a single line break in code doesn't change the appearance of the text. with a <br /> or two line breaks, you will get an actual line break. (see example below) single line breaks have certain other effects, but they're mostly to make code easily readable.
  6. asterisks (*) are used to make bullet lists (see below). in the same fashion, sharps (#) can be used to make numbered lists like this one. the colon indenting system doesn't interfere with lists as you can see. to make footnotes, you can use <sup>1</sup>, which will result in 1
This line has a space at the beginning. (4.)

This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3. This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3. This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3. This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3. The code has a line break here but it doesn't show up at all. This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3. This is a very long text only used as an example to demonstrate number 3.

  • bullet 1
    • bullet 1.1
      • bullet 1.1.1
      • bullet 1.1.2
    • bullet 1.2
  • bullet 2

That's some of the most important stuff i think. Check Help:Editing and User:Y0 ich halt/Guides/UPG for more if you're interested.

And yes, i'd recommend moving that section either to your user page or maybe to a subpage (like User:UglyLooking/Subpage). - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey We Share the same birthday!

I dont know why you need to know but hey XD Fang The Unknown

why are you entered for march 1st on GWW:BDAY then? o.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:42, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

true dat

lol — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 00:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Well then, what does that make Wyn, Regina and Gaile (to name a few)? O.o — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 00:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Twilight Zone music.... xD -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon.png 00:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
o.O I need to get back to grammer nazi-ing wiki pages XD calm my OCD — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 00:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
haha, I hope not, you may be in for more then you can handle! -- WoBUser Wings of Blood sig icon.png 00:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm talking it slowly. Spell-check in work helps A FREAKIN LOT! — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 00:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) does anyone of you want a unique weapon/anything skin? texmodding is the only thing gw is good for. tell me, meet ingame, gimme, and i'll mod it for you :)> - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Oooh, yea! So much. I want the skin for the Singing Blade turned into the Zodiac Sword. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
in that case we have another problem. either you get a badly drawn copy made by myself (i'll use the screenshot here for that), or you get me a real zodiac sword so i get the original texture and can lay it over your singing blade. i think i'll spend some of my time this evening asking in kainend if anyone can show me one of those. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
That'd be better for I don't support blindheaded who want 70k for such a sword. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 14:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) No girls on teh Intarweb, huh? *Calls Wyn, Aiiane, and Anja* GET HIM! .... --Shadowphoenix Happy Halloween 15:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Get whom? And what girls? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 15:36, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
there are no girls on the internet, period. oh, noctarch, you might wanna help find someone with a zodiac sword, i haven't met anyone willing to show me in two hours. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:00, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Who need girls when you can choose freely? >:-) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 17:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Got a zodiac sword I could show you, should you still need that. Good luck on modding the singing blade to look like it though, is it even possible to mod what weapons look like, concerning their 3D-image, not just the skin? WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 18:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
i'm on right now (Gwendal Theyren). about the 3d skin, i'm not sure. i hope it'll extend only because the skin is there, but i'll see if that works. otherwise we'll have to use a blade with a similar shape, noctarch.
i got the zodiac texture. proceding to step 2. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Or, you could try to change the zodiac skin such that you end up with a two-headed zodiac blade based on the singing blade model, that'd be epic ^^ WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 19:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
i can try :D - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:30, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

File:User Y0 ich halt zodiac1.jpg

That much for simply using the zodiac skin... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:31, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey, dat is heel veel fun. Dank je. Err, enough for that; I want to thank youn for your page change, too. Now, my eyes stop to hurt ;) Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 06:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
just one thing i wonder: every first time i load this page, the old image is shown. then i have to clear cache to see the new one. i don't mind, but i'd like to know what's causing this o.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:30, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Our lord's prophet's evil spirit. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 16:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

where did it go? And gz, that link really owned me.. :P WhyUser talk:Why Are We Fighting 15:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

STRIKE - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 15:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I'm having a hard time trusting your links lately Y0.... — Wolf User Great Darkwolf User Image paw.png 21:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
just some more... - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism

I better revert that :D — Seru User Seru Sig2.png Talk 21:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

not the first time, actually :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Contributions

Think you could send me a pic of the contribs i've done so far using that tool on your userpage? For some reason it won't work for me no matter what browser I use :(. |Foul Bane| 17:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

any version of FF should work. it will add a box to the top of the current page with your contribution count. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:38, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, it worked. For some reason it wouldn't work on FF if more then one page was up at the same time... And I am RLY a wiki-noob after seeing that. I really need to get some contribs other then just talk lol. Thx Y0. |Foul Bane| 17:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
now i'm curious... *checks your contribs* ... lol, you really should. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
I also couldn't get it to work. I'm using FF as well. Nothing happened at all when I tried it. When I left in the http:// it just gave me a broken link to the www.javascript.com website. Am I doing something wrong?Mohnzh say what? 16:41, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
you shouldn't leave in the http://. and it should work in all versions of ff, so this is kinda strange. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 17:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
i noticed it doesn't work if the currently loaded page isn't GWW. (i.e. it didn't work when i used it in a blank tab). (Y0 in a different browser...) -91.18.242.135 17:13, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I pity that...

{{User:Noctarch/Templates/UserBoxes/YJH}}
Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

? - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 18:20, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
When you joyfully played a nerd's game. Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 18:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
ah, i thought you meant the childish one :P - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 19:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

If you haven't seen...

Kurzicks chasing Luxons, then you need to go see at Vasburg Armory America dist. 1. :D -- UglyLooking 23:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

i have. over and over and over again... i've got some screens of it, though i think making a gif would be funny, too ;) - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 23:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
yah, that bug is quite funny. there's a video afair on youtube about that. —ZerphatalkThe Improver 13:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Bull's Charge

You're in breach of 1RR at the moment, please remedy. Also, it's not possible in theory unless you can manage to hit them only while they are not moving six times for every one time they are moving, which is too ridiculous to comprehend. Misery 11:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

i have reverted exactly once by now, so don't accuse me of stuff i didn't do. also, you should go to the actual discussion about that note. i didn't think about the cost yet (hadn't even looked up on your knees until now), but with an IAS you should be able to get 6A every 10 seconds. of course, IAS without stance will limit this mostly to IWAY or strange class combinations, but it's possible in theory. anyway, keeping it up with that much effort would be a waste, thanks for giving me a good reason to remove it. - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 11:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)