Talk:Afflicted

Plant?

"The Afflicted are simply living creatures—animal, human, plant" Plant? Where are there Afflicted plants? (I'd remove it but I'm pretty sure someone is going to pull up a picture of an Afflicted Shrubbery or something.) HeWhoIsPale 18:32, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

Be bold, especially when you know you're right. :) --Dirigible 18:40, 29 April 2007 (EDT)

The afflictes get on my nerves when they die coz of their soul explosion, and they look DISGUSTING!!!--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:82.4.232.23 (talk).

The afflicted are awesome. They come in large numbers and do decent damage, but also have little in the way of defences and tend to die in droves (especially the warriors when they start Frenzying). This makes for spectacular combats. Some of those Canthan quests and missions where you fight hordes of them are my favourites in GW. -- Hong 06:11, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Kirin

How are kirin's related? :o Koen 17:37, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

"These peaceful spirit monks have become corrupted by Shiro’s return, and will sometimes strike out at the living. Approach any Kirin with caution." Afflicted are owned by Shiro also. — ク Eloc 貢 20:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I know, but I don't see links to Sickened, Shiro'ken, Bound (..name..), and the others things controlled by Shiro. Koen 08:21, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh. Well, add them? — ク Eloc 貢 17:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay :p Koen 19:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Well I added them, but it just seems strange to have Kirin there.. I mean, they are not controlled by Shiro, 'just' corrupted. He can't command them, he can't let them fight for him. Ah well I'll leave it this way I guess.Koen 19:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Erased them, they just really arent related.. Koen 18:16, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

shouldn't it be written in the article that when they die they explode? =P78.20.153.111 11:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

The sickened transform into afflicted after a while (except those near the gardens and Estate). They are infected by the same thing. Eryops3 20:01, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

infobox - affiliation?

I would think the affiliation for the Afflicted is Afflicted, but most are affiliated to "Undead" like this one. But the Undead page does not mention the Afflicted at all. So which is it? --mira castillo 20:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Are these guys undead? Does holy damage do more damage against them? --Stu 12:11, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

I'd believe they were undead if I saw it (I need just a tiny bit more evidence). The fact that they drop bones quite often is almost enough for me to call them undead. Wait...I saw some guys die and then transform into afflicted. They are undead!Eryops3 20:03, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd love for there to be a...

afflicted style armor, like the plague born weapons. I know there's probably no chance of it, but wouldn't you like to have a plague-themed armor? 216.119.178.127 04:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I know, but that would probably be necromancer only. Eryops3 20:04, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

This is our chance. Warriors get their own special armor, shouldn't every other class get a set like that? Plagueborn would fill the gap nicely for Necromancers. --Aldarik 06:00, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Wow, I don't even remember making this post, was so many months ago. /that ip was me. personn5 06:02, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I have a tendency to not check the date something was posted... --Aldarik 15:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Ugh, Skill Updates

Anyone else notice how buffed the afflicted are? Cantha HM used to be a breeze, now it's really difficult. I mean, RoJ, Enraged Smashed, AND they explode on you dealing 200 damage each? They still come out in ridiculously large numbers too. I think they need to be rebalanced so that you don't HAVE to run two sets of sabway/discordway to do Cantha HM (Even then, it's still 50/50). PowerGamer 04:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Dead Space

Is it just me, or do these guys remind you of the Necromorphs from Dead Space? --Aldarik 15:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Late reply, but rather than start a new section I'll continue this one and say they remind me of the Flood from the Halo Series. Taros 03:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Taros. A disease that takes over your mind and forces your soul to leave you, taking over all you know, forcing you to do what it wants to do...Giving you rotting skin and additional body parts/body features, definitely the Flood. 71.194.87.164 20:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Undead?

Based on what? I think i know already :P - J.P.Talk 04:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering...

Has anyone ever killed an Afflicted and then look at the Afflicted corpse on the ground in first person view? --Leviticus Lo 09:28, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

I would doubt that as many people don't bother observing a soon-to-disappear corpse that usually blackens because there is a MM hero in the group. Not to mention most places people encounter Afflicted are missions, which require you to move quickly. -- Konig/talk 09:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Winds of Change

In WoC afflicted have a special soul explosion based on their profession. - Giant Nuker 23:37, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Is this soul explosion skill only seen in HM? I haven't seen a single afflicted, of any profession, cast such a skill. --Musha 04:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

They don't cast it; it happens when they die. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 05:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Undead inconsistency

→ moved from Talk:The Afflicted Hakaru

The Afflicted are simply living creatures-animal, human, plant.

That will simply means Hakaru is still living instead of being an undead. --175.156.118.65 07:09, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Besides The Afflicted Hakaru page, nearly all of the Afflicted NPC pages (i.e. the ones listed in Category:Afflicted and Category:Afflicted bosses) state "undead Afflicted" in the lead paragraph with "undead" linking to the Undead page. The #infobox - affiliation? and #Undead? sections also discuss how Afflicted are being referred to as undead in Afflicted NPC pages. The Undead page doesn't mention "Afflicted" and the Afflicted page doesn't mention "undead". The only method to test if Afflicted are really considered to be part of the undead army is attacking them with an Of Deathbane weapon, since some undead are not vulnerable to holy damage and/or are fleshy. --Silver Edge 21:56, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Either the Afflicteds are undead or they are not. If they are undead, that will mean that the manuscript is wrong and a note should be added to inform people about it. If they are not undead, lots of changes to do then :) --175.156.118.65 03:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

It may be due to mechanics, which I doubt given Minister Cho's Estate, but throughout the game, before peasants become afflicted, they die. So the manual is wrong - which is surprising, given the manuals were written up while their respective games were in beta stages.

Mechanically, they are not undead (no ands ifs (or iffs) or butts), in regards to Silver Edge. So they won't be Undead, but they're undead. Konig/talk 05:15, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

My point is not whether Holy dmg or Deathbane works on them (I know that there are still some small bugs/glitches in the game), just that if Afflicteds are undeads, a note should be put to inform that people that there is a typo/discrepency in the manuscript --175.156.118.65 05:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

My comment on mechanically not being undead was not related to you, ip 175, but to Silver Edge in stating that "The Undead page doesn't mention "Afflicted"" and "The only method to test if Afflicted are really considered to be part of the undead army is attacking them with an Of Deathbane weapon". Konig/talk 05:51, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

They have never taken extra damage from RoJ, they're not undead Jeree95 14:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Not all undead take double damage from holy damage; and I've already explicitly stated they're not undead in mechanics, but seem to be in lore. Konig/talk 15:35, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Shiro

(Not sure where to pose) Is Shiro giving off an aura that turns nearby creatures in afflicteds? If so, does it affects the margonites with him being so close to them in RoT? Or are they immune due to being directly under Abbadon? --175.156.118.65 07:12, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Since the margonite aren't "animals, humans or plants", I'd go with they're unaffected. --Chieftain Alex 10:19, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

the Margonites were humans that Abaddon later transformed into ethereal demons

Unless in GWverse, the demons are uncorruptible (cannot be influence by any other creatures/powers/psychic/etc). And what is the meaning of ethereal for GW anyway? Not having a corporeal body (thus being 'immune' to Shiro)? That will make being able to bleed/poison/diseased inconsistent since they need to have a 'body' to do it --175.156.118.65 03:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

It's not Shiro's presence. It was Shiro's presence as an Envoy while intentionally not doing his job and causing imbalance in the world.

E.g., the afflicted were a pro-active influence of Shiro's existence while within Tyria, empowered with a job by the Oracle of the Mists. Konig/talk 05:17, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Been awhile since I last read Shiro's page. When Shiro changed back to mortal, was his envoy power striped or did it remained? Since Shiro was imprison in RoT, why are there shiro'kens there since they were created with his envoy power (unless Abbadon granted him power similar to envoy's power)? Should we move this to Shiro discussion? --175.156.118.65 06:11, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Based on the mission, his Envoy powers went away when he died the second time. Why there are Shiro'ken in the RoT is never really explained beyond Shiro being there too, but nothing says Shiro'ken were made solely because Shiro was an Envoy - Shiro'ken are literally souls bound to Soul Stones which use said souls to animate construct bodies made of bone, stone, and metal (and utilize that soul's abilities, supposedly). Considering that one doesn't have to be an Envoy to bound souls (see: Ritualist to start things off), then Shiro might have been able to create Shiro'ken irregardless of being an Envoy - being one just made it easier since he also had the Afflicted. Konig/talk 18:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

That makes sense but seeing as we have only seen Shiro'kens and not others I would guess spirit binding is a taboo/forbidden skill among the ritualists. --175.156.118.65 11:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Not really. Konig/talk 15:34, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Just forget it, people. The writers never bothered to figure it out themselves so why should we bother ass-pulling a bunch of crap which was Anet's writers job in the first place. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.121.113.176 (talk) at 12:59, 18 February 2015 (UTC).

Bull/ravager

Probably they were mean to drop Animal Hides like the Sickened critters. -Chieftain Alex 18:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

That might be a possibility. It seems GuildWiki's Afflicted Ravager and Afflicted pages also don't mention any trophy drop, but the Afflicted Bull page does list Augmented Flesh (however, the user that added it wasn't certain about it). --Silver Edge 04:09, 23 September 2014 (UTC)