Talk:Bloodstone

The triangle on the inscription on the door has it's three ends pointing on three sides of the hexagone and pointing on three of the exterior trapezes.

the bloodstone from the fen has no hexagone and the triangle ends don't points forward trapezes but between trapezes.

the bloodstone from the volcano as no trapezis, but the triangle ends are close to the ends of the hexagone, not the sides.

i didn't took the screenshot, but the inscription is on the door from sparkfly swamp to bloodstone caves. lussh 19:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

You make absolutely no sense to me Liche. Wtf is a trapezes or trapezis? — ク Eloc 貢 19:47, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

sorry my words probably means nothing because i don't know the english ones, trapezes are a geometrical form with four sides, two of thems are parrallels but with different length. they are six on the scripture and bloostone fen and none on the mouth bloodstone. lussh 19:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC) found it, the correct name in english is trapezoid. lussh 20:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

who wants to bet that in GW2 the blood stone is re-assembled? ;-0 --98.135.2.135 08:27, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

got a question... didnt the gods put all the magic into one big stone and then broke the stone into 5 pieces. the article says that they broke during the eruption, but i thought the gods did this?82.136.203.25 16:47, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

It was indeed broke in five pieces by the gods, and then, they were all thrown up in a volcano. Sometimes latter, the volcano erupted and send out four pieces across the tyria. lussh 17:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

What is up with that "created by Abaddon from the blood of the Five God's Immortal Champions"? Someone keeps re-adding that, same with the Seers of the Twilight on the Abaddon page. Where are the sources of this information? Or is it just someone trying to turn his fanfiction into actual lore? Karuro 12:05, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Southern Shiverpeak Bloodstone

If I read it correctly, Linsey Murdock has stated that the Shiverpeaks Bloodstone was in fact the Bloodstone in the Bloodstone Caverns (and so, not a different Bloodstone). Her comment can be found here Karuro 21:42, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

This is the question Linsey was referring to. We have found the Shiverpeaks Bloodstone. – Barinthus 20:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

How did the bloodstone manage to get so far underground, anyway? There isn't a giant hole in the mountains above it, and the cavern twists and turns quite a bit. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:198.174.36.158 (talk).

Related to the Bloodstones

If you haven't noticed, When you around a Bloodstone, you will see the same Jade like material that make up Jade Armor and Jade Bow. This could be where the Jade are coming from. And by the way, is it possible that the Mursaat City is located at a Bloodstone?( just woundering ) Treesbyty 17:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The Mursaat City could be located there, true. Maybe it's even suspended in the air, invisible, so that humans could never reach it but the Mursaat would still be close to the Bloodstones. Just a thought. Silavor 23:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Two stones, not one

In the mission where Evenia and Saidra were going to be killed atop the bloodstone, I'm pretty sure the bloodstone is in that mission nearby their holding cells covered in snow, suspended pretty much in mid air with those jagged jade crystals around it. The one in sparkfly swamp is a different bloodstone, I'll go to the mission and take screen shots to support it. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.117.81.202 (talk).

Look two sections above - a game developer has already confirmed the one in Sparkfly Swamp is the same one in Shiverpeaks. Nevertheless if you can get us screenshots of the snow-covered bloodstone, I'm sure many of us will like to see that. – Barinthus 22:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Anvil Rock

I heard somewhere that Anvil Rock was a piece of the Bloodstone. I visited it and it looks like volcanic rock, pointed in the direction of Abbadon's Mouth. <>208.117.81.202 02:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Screenshot? — ク Eloc 貢 04:13, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

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i was bored when i was reading this and decided to take a field trip to this thing, and get some screens shots of it too, looks interesting doesn't it, this rock certainly doesn't look like it belongs here, and the direction is facing from Abbadon's mouth. it up for debate anyways,--Metal Sazz 22:27, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I went to Anvil Rock myself today... the rocks lines are different then the surround hill's rocks... I pulled the 2 Minotaurs up to the top of the slope to see if I could get the Blood Stone effect, and nothing happened... So I guess it is still up for debate. - SabreWolf 04:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

If a Bloodstone were to be here, it doesn't mean it must have the same effect as the others (same idea about the Hallowed Point), however, the question would come into play as the other two. Which school of magic is it? or perhaps it is the keystone? Same would go towards Hallowed Point. It's guessed that Maguuma=Preservation, Caves=Aggression, and Ring of Fire=Denial or Keystone. Destruction would fit Hallowed Point (only place to destroy the Staff of the Mists), so what of Anvil Rock - again, assuming it's a bloodstone. I'll have to look into this being a possible location. I find it unlikely to be honest though. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 10:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible Location

Since their are 4 locations of the Bloodstones as far as I see it. Wilds/Kryta-Bloodstone fen one; Fire islands-In abbadons mouth; Shiverpeaks-Bloodstone Caverns Bloodstone; Ascalon-None found; Crystal Desert-none found. I belive the one in Ascalon is in Dragons Gullet somewhere. (May Be destroyed cause of the Searing.) 70.121.168.43 22:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

No, no. Palawa Joko built the Bone Palace on top of one! Sounds Risky | 22:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I heard Rurik was born on a Bloodstone in Ascalon. He bumped his head on it at birth, and thus became the guy you just love to see die over and over again at the end of The Frost Gate mission.

--164.15.112.29 12:36, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

It is mentioned in the article that one is suspected to be under the harvest temple. That would make sense, but then brings up the question, would it be possible that the missing peice mare it's way to Elona? perhaps it was used to cast Abaddon into the realm of toement and is now encased somewhere in the desolation, or has been sucked into the realm of torment. --Xenktray05:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

I always frowned at the idea of the Bloodstone being below the Harvest Temple. First, it's WAY outside the blast radius (Comparing with the Maguuma, Shiverpeaks & RoF stones). And second, it's a giant rock. It'll take a good long time to get that to the center of the Jade Sea (Which was still a sea back then). It's a tough task over land (See the Stonehenge documentary for example) and even worse over sea (with raging storms and everything else you expect upon sea). And if it was dragged all the way from Tyria, it'll even had to cross the Bay of Sirens/Strait of Malchor by boat. That's one heck of a journey. Karuro 12:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Ah, but arent the bloodstones under the control of the Mursaat? if the stone were found by the Mursaat they could have easily transfered it cross the sea to Cantha in order to keep it portected from other sources. it may be that the Seer's race is Canthan in some way and has theived the bloodstone from the Mursaat and hidden it in Cantha. the question remains.--96.18.38.29 16:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Well if one landed in the ocean, and was brought by currents to the then water jade sea...just sayin-User:Devona goke

Considering the Jade Sea is an inland sea, with only 2 rivers connecting it to the ocean - one of which is shallow with rivers and in fact originates from the Jade Sea - I find that highly unlikely given the size of the bloodstones. A very powerful and alternating current would be necessary to make the proper movements. Konig/talk 16:20, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Only the three known were once under Mursaat jurisdiction. The other two, are completely unknown. I have a feeling one landed near Orr, and it's likely the last is in the Unending Ocean. There is lots of water nearby afterall. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 10:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

This is all very interesting, i hope that they will reveal the locations of the final 2 in GW2 -- C4K3 14:50, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Glint statement

Can someone please point me to where Glint states that the bloodstone in Bloodstone Caves is where Evennia and Saidra were to be executed. The best I could find so far was from The Dragon's Lair, where Glint says: "Their souls will be reaped upon one of the five Bloodstones...", but this is not conclusive.

I understand that it has been confirmed by developers, but the note says that it was stated by Glint. Thanks. (Ralmon the Gen 09:33, 7 February 2009 (UTC))

Glint says they are to be executed on a bloodstone, the NPC briefing the mission to Ice Caves of Sorrow says they are to be killed on a bloodstone nearby. With that, we have Linsey saying the Bloodstone is the one in Bloodstone Caves. -- Azazel The Assassin\talk 10:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Trivia

There's a link between the bloodstones, the set of Illyana weapons and in a more loose sense, Gwen. About a year or so back I was trying to source trivia for Illyana's Mirror. I just remebered that I forgot to actually read the article from wikipedia here [5] (whoops =]) and found that the comic book makes 2 other statements:

• 1 - The 5 bloodstones in a pentagon locket
• 2 - Illyana's 7 year transition in limbo... kidnapped when she was only 6.

I'm not sure how to document this trivia, but I thought that it was worth mentioning. What's most interesting is that the final comic mentions her reunion with the X-Men. Wouldn't it be funny if the core professions were based off the X-men? LOL (Terra Xin 04:28, 21 March 2009 (UTC))

You have very strange thinking there... but certaintly on to something at the very least.

So tell me, what and where were these bloodstones in the book?74.173.107.209 10:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Ice Caves of Sorrow

Didn't one of the developers state that the platform in Ice Caves of Sorrow isn't a Bloodstone? -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:48, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it is either. ♥ Ariyen ♀ 07:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Temple of Tolerance

Notice that in the Alessio seaboard mission there are odd statues, 3 of them to be exact, that look suspiciously like they were made out of bloodstone in the Temple of Tolerance, doen't that make sense that the White Mantle would build their temple ontop of a bloodstone, and on the spot you at the end of the mission were inducted into the White Mantle, it happened ontop of a bloodstone, doesn't that creep you out a little? It does for me. Give me your opinion on this theory. Please.--Necro Shea Mo 15:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

I doubt it. First of all, there'd need to be an obvious Bloodstone effect. And it's not the mending effect from the fountain, else there'd be a bloodstone in Hakewood as well (I just think they're fountains of Maguuma water). Second, the statue's are (iirc) Jade Armors before they break out (See Iron Mines of Moladune). Probably placed for extra security. And last, if there was in fact a bloodstone, they wouldn't have to drag all the chosen to the Maguuma stone to kill them. Karuro 16:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Aura and Curse

Someone has added this: "It is believed that the Curse of the Bloodstone is in fact caused by the soul batteries, and not the bloodstones themselves, while the Aura of the Bloodstone is caused by the aggression school of magic tied bloodstone." Can someone please cite the source of this? I deleted but copied it here if it is to be put back. 198.174.37.44 04:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The fact that Prince Rurik states: "Kill the Lich while he stands atop the Bloodstone inside the caldera. If you do this, his spirit will recharge the soul batteries, and the Door will be closed again." It's the soul batteries which prevent the resurrection in lore, and the environmental effect exists due to said lore. We also lack said Curse of the Bloodstone in Bloodstone caves - at the one bloodstone lacking soul batteries. -- Konig/talk 05:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

"It's the soul batteries which prevent the resurrection in lore..." I don't see it. Point out where it says this. What you said is merely that killing on the bloodstones charges the soul batteries, and there are charged batteries at both the Maguuma bloodstone and the Ring of Fire Islands bloodstone, both times. 198.174.37.44 07:40, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Logical deduction - a person cannot live without a soul, therefore a soul is needed to be resurrected, if a soul battery is powered by a soul and charging a soul battery prevents even a lich (a being which cannot normally/easily be killed) from coming back, then the only possible answer would be that the soul battery "steals" the soul. Therefore the soul battery is what prevents resurrection. And yes, there are charged soul batteries in both locations because the chosen are slain on the Maguuma bloodstone, thus charging the soul batteries there, and said soul batteries are taken to the ring of fire (the racks of soul batteries seen on the port). -- Konig/talk 08:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

What I'm saying is that the batteries are already charged on both sites and both bloodstones have charging capability, but the Bloodstone Fen bloodstone is always slowing resurrection and the Fire Islands bloodstone does it when charging with the Lich, even though you power down the gate in the volcano, and the Shiverpeak bloodstone has a different effect altogether, so it could be something else, as well. "It is believed" is the phrase equivalent of a weasel word, and where is it said that the Shiverpeak bloodstone is Agression? In any case, it's up for debate and apparently not confirmed, so it should have a disputed tag or not be in the article at all, even if it "makes sense" 198.174.37.44 23:42, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

The slowing resurrection is a game mechanic, Glint states that those killed on the bloodstones can never be brought back - and this is due to the soul batteries. There are batteries that are already charged on both sites because the one in the Maguuma was being charged by the slain Chosen, and those batteries were taken to the Ring of Fire bloodstone. The aggression bit was speculation (and widely accepted in the community that discusses lore due to various points that are a bit long to get into atm - but in short, flows with necromancer magic). The aggression part shouldn't be in the article, but it should be noted, at the very least, that the soul batteries prevent resurrection, not the bloodstone. -- Konig/talk 01:48, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

That seems fine. That's confirmed, I think, but the Curse of the Bloodstone might not be from the same thing.198.174.37.44 02:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Keystone

Have any of the 3 known bloodstones been revealed to be the keystone? Or is the keystone 1 of the 2 remaining undiscovered bloodstones? What has ANet confirmed so far regarding this? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.186.18.236 (talk).

No mention which bloodstone is which, or indication outside player speculation based on Aura of the Bloodstone and Fount Of Maguuma effects, making players suspect aggression (suspected to be tied to necromancy) and preservation respectively. The Ring of Fire bloodstone is debated among players to be any of the remaining three - destruction (via the volcano's constant activity, including when the bloodstone got activated for a moment when transferring Khilbron's soul into the soul batteries), denial via keeping the Door of Komalie closed (counter argument is that it's actually the soul batteries keeping it closed, but it may be the combination keeping it closed), or the keystone because no non-soul battery effect is not seen that cannot be otherwise explained. Side note: Curse of the Bloodstone, despite its name, is caused by the soul batteries. Konig/talk 03:12, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I always wanted to put one of these in a guild hall, but make the effect map-wide. Four times slower resurrection speed is good times. I swear I remember a piece of lore somewhere stating the bloodstone inside the caldera is the Keystone, being the only one that didn't get blasted all to hell by the volcano. But maybe I'm wrong, I can't remember where I saw it. –Jette 01:41, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Most likely you read it somewhere where speculation was made to sound like fact. Its happened on this wiki several times that I've fixed (and probably several more that I haven't). But as far as I'm aware there's no such lore. Konig/talk 02:21, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Conflicting new information

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Ruined_City_of_Arah_%28explorable%29#Seer
...basically saying ...well I don't know.. just that the Seers created it apparently, not the gods? Infact I don't recall anything in the first game stating who created it, only that the gods gifted it to Humanity. --ilr 08:41, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

A lot from History of Tyria has been proven false in Nightfall, Eye of the North, and Guild Wars 2. I wouldn't call it "conflicting." The History of Tyria does claim the Five Gods made the bloodstone, but like I said, repetitively proven to be wrong (and of human history, it is the only lore source proven wrong unless presented as something wrong/possibly wrong or it gets its lore from HoT). Konig 01:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)