Talk:Main Page/editcopy/Archive 8

The WiK appears to be over

so I'll be copying over the current, old layout tomorrow, unless there are any valid objections. — Why 00:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Welcome banner

It's hideous. And it actually sticks out more than it did before, so it's not exactly less "high profile". Shall we keep the old one please? — Why 19:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree. The older one is better... The new one doesn't feel like it's screaming at me, but more like it's just uncomfortably loud. --Lania 20:04, 08 October 2010 (UTC)

The old position on top was better. Now it looks squished. --Xeeron 22:30, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd be okay with it as long as the position is back on top like Xeeron said, and the font made a little smaller. The background color would be fine IMO though. --Lania 22:48, 08 October 2010 (UTC)

personally i hate the hole thing go to another website and notice how it doesn't have some stupid banner at the top saying "welcome blabla bla information noone reads or cares about." revert it if you want i was trying to make it look less aids i dont think it looks "squished now" but whatever.- Zesbeer 06:41, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

im glad someone reverted it and try and make something that looks better.- Zesbeer 05:18, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

New Link?

Maybe we could add a link to the Hall of Monuments Calculator in the News, Events section for those that aren't aware of its existence? French777 17:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I was hoping for a box similar to what we have on the GW2W linking all the recent info about GW2, however I highly doubt it would fit on the main space unless some serious reorganizing is done. Perhaps expand another box to be 2 columns long and set it below the featured article, then have the new news feed be 2 rows tall?--Neithan Diniem 01:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

GW2 news is about GW2 thus should not be on GW1W's main page. A link to the hom site is fine though, so go ahead and add it if you think you know a nice spot for it. Also feel free to experiment a bit, after all this is the editcopy page.— Why 13:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Halloween

i changed it over to the layout we had last year for Halloween so its just a copy past of that. i think it removed some of the links but i also think it would be fun to rename the topics like we did for wik also we need the logo changed.- Zesbeer 21:59, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

also changing the icons some ideas i had for new titles would be things like mad kings latest brew for Latest in-game activities sigh that was the best i could come up with... sigh...- Zesbeer 22:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

use this one [1] for halloween.

↑ I actually like that one. What do you guys think? — Why 23:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Yah I like the black one better than the orange --Lemming 23:29, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Loving the black background!!!! However now torn between orange or green text as both of them look halloweeny. Green echoes the colours of the Dhuum image which is pleasing to the eye, however the orange echoes the pumpkins and the guildwars logo colour palette. Torn. -- Salome 01:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I prefer orange as green is too snotty looking.

Personally I like the black backround and the green font. As Orange imo is an ugly colour. Dont Forget to Sign Too! antil Swift 04:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Orange shows up cleaner than green and it's the color most places use, including previous gw halloween main pages. 69.10.53.194 06:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Not sure I agree with the "cleaner" thing, and that it's been done before is more of a reason not to do it again than otherwise imo. -- Wyn talk 06:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

The one on the edit page right now isnt too bad. Perhaps an orange border though?--Neithan Diniem 18:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

i like the one with the green text now for new titles?- Zesbeer 18:30, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think we need new titles. I think I prefer orange but hey, green is better than nothing, so unless someone objects I'll apply these changes to the main page. If you feel really strongly about needing new titles, we can do that in a separate update. — Why 19:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

eh no big deal we also need to change the icon also why is the text orange right now? everyone wants green.- Zesbeer 22:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

good lord, why green? that orange was much better. these colors look horrid. how can anyone look at that and think they should keep it? it's disgusting. --VVong|BA 09:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree the green text looks pretty vile. --Lemming 13:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Orange ftw! –alistic 14:49, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this looks pretty... eugh. --Gah_ 18:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

See, more people want orange. Change it back. 69.10.53.194 20:29, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

its Halloween its suppose to look "pretty vile" i think it looks fine and its only for a few days we should be focused on wintersday seeing as i was the one who pushed this up the day the update went live.- Zesbeer 21:49, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't think that its a matter of which is more vile, but which better represents Halloween. –alistic 02:40, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it time to change it back from the Halloween version? --Silver Edge 06:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

are the decorations still in game? if yes then no if no then yes.- Zesbeer 08:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

All the decorations and festival quest NPCs are gone. --Silver Edge 15:43, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Site logo

Any way of changing it to whatever we had last year? — Why 15:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

This one or this one? –alistic 02:43, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

i vote the second image we need to get it changed quick because the event will be over very soon.- Zesbeer 04:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I like the 2nd one as well... it's more creepy, but yeah, we should get it changed asap. --Lania 04:38, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

We used this one last year. Its basically a high res version of SP's. I prefer that one to the red moon. --hnzdvn 06:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

↑ that's the one I meant. How do we implement that? I guess I'll go and ping poke's talk page or something. — Why 13:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Changed. --JonTheMon 13:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

wintersday 2010

i just wanted to start the topic on wintersday 2010, seeing as Halloween creeped up on us and a lot of people where not happy with how the layout looks so if someone wants to dig up last years wintersday that would be epic.- Zesbeer 01:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

[2]–alistic 04:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I don't like that color format tbh. -- Konig/talk 05:13, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Me neither. The green doesn't look very "christmasy", not that solid green would look any better... :/ --Lania 17:06, 01 November 2010 (UTC)

I liked this color scheme better. [3]. --Lania 17:13, 01 November 2010 (UTC)

Take the color of the second one and the pics from the first one and *poof* done--Mark, het Beest 17:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Here is the proposed color scheme in my sandboc User:Lania_Elderfire/Sandbox. --Lania 20:18, 01 November 2010 (UTC)

Unless there's a way in which we can replace the mouse by a snowman or let it snow over the mainpage, then I say do it, make this the concept for now^^--Mark, het Beest 20:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

OH GOD NO i will take the one color layout over the two muilti color aids any day.- Zesbeer 21:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'd like to see other suggestions for color schemes then because the single color format from last year doesn't look very festive to me. And what is "multi-color aids" anyway? --Lania 21:51, 01 November 2010 (UTC)

I think you found two very soft (read: appropriate) versions of red and green. The first time I saw it, my eyes also screamed "no!", but I think that's more the mental rejection of Christmas being around the corner than anything else. G R E E N E R 22:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

its where you have more then one alternating colors all over the place.- Zesbeer 22:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the icons of the first link ([4]), and the green only of the second link ([5]). Two color formats=bad imo. -- Konig/talk 23:16, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Okay, I changed to a monocolor format with a brighter green as Konig suggested. User:Lania Elderfire/Sandbox--Lania 00:33, 02 November 2010 (UTC)

I liked the two color format better, it's much more festive...--Mark, het Beest 07:40, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

what if we made the light green title boxes slightly darker and change the black lettering to white? i have mixed feelings about the 2 color format as green and red just don't look that great together, but monochrome is kinda boring/non-festive. --VVong|BA 22:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I prefer the logos from Konig's second link though, in my opinion they look better.–alistic 22:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually, red and green are opposites on the color wheel, so they complement each other quite well. Thats why those two were chosen for the holiday anyhow. Its all in what hue you've chosen.--Neithan Diniem 01:32, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

if you can make it look non aids then ill be fine with it. what about the logo?- Zesbeer 00:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

yeah neithan, you're right about the color wheel thing. maybe it's just me. but i still think the 2 colors used don't look good in that instance. --VVong|BA 19:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

part2

it seems someone change it to line up with hearts of the north, i dont see how that them will be up for very long because in what a week we will be switching to wintersday theme, speaking of which have we come to a decision on how the theme will look and what logo we will be using?- Zesbeer 04:08, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Not to late to change this for wintersday..... -- Wyn talk 18:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the code. All the text around the border of the Main Page/editcopy page (i.e. the clock at the top) is smaller than before the Wintersday changes. --Silver Edge 20:09, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Looks ready. Planning on pushing soon. --JonTheMon 17:37, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

....this should have been pushed like a week ago.. oh well.- Zesbeer 12:58, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

skill update previews

short-lived phenomenon that happened a while ago -- the project isn't very fruitful in terms of usefulness, either. Should we take it off the main page? | 72 | 03:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

When I read this part: "Recent previews Friday 23rd of April (talk) Friday 19th of February (talk)",

I think it should be removed. Waar Kijk Je Naar 09:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I see no reason to take it off the main page anyway, it has been inactive because there are no previews ready to show, the only reason people are judging it to have been to long without previews is because their going on how long THEY think previews and updates should take to come out, when in reality they take as long as they take and you just have to be patient. --Dinsy 20:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The previews, imo, should be taken down as soon as the corresponding update is up. It kind of defeats the purpose, at that point. — Raine Valen 20:29, 4 Nov 2010 (UTC)

^ --ilr 03:49, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. Things that happened a month ago aren't "Upcoming." ~Shard 00:40, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree as well. If there is any new preview in the future, we can easily add a link for as long as it is interesting again, but for now, removing makes completely sense. poke | talk 18:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Dinsy; It's not because the previews are a long time coming -- if it were, I'd still keep them. It's that the last preview was in April and the actual update happened a while back.

I removed the line from the editcopy and cited the consensus here | 72 | 18:04, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

HoM Calculator

I disagree with the removal of the links to this. This is something pretty much all GW players are interested in and an easy link to get to it from the main page is appropriate. -- Wyn talk 19:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

^ | 72 | 22:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. The HoM is a feature in GW1 and GW2, thus a link to it should be present at both sites.--Neithan Diniem 00:01, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

agreed.- Zesbeer 00:11, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Red links

I would rather keep the red links to future 'campaigns' in Guild Wars Beyond than in the main page. While red links have their uses, the main page is a portal to popular/important existing pages. -- pling 14:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, generally red links on the main page scream to users "MAKE SOMETHING ON ME!!!11!!1!". But, if consensus is that red links are ok, I would definitely draw the line at the next item, not any further than that. --JonTheMon 14:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, if you want to mention Winds of Change explicitely, do so without a link until a useful page exists. poke | talk 17:44, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

As said above, just remove the link and leave the plain text. That, or create a filler page for Cantha:Winds of Change based on known information until more accurate info is posted.--Neithan Diniem 02:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

"As said above, just remove the link and leave the plain text. That, or create a filler page for Cantha:Winds of Change based on known information until more accurate info is posted." <- this- Zesbeer 03:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Black Text for Featured Article

What's the reasoning behind this? It seems silly — Skakid 19:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Normal link color looks ugly. poke | talk 10:27, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

as it currently looks..

I like the new icon choice but I'm honestly not too fond of adding icons to the top box. - Lucian Shadowborn 06:04, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, should we change the layout colour scheme to a more...Wintersday theme? 203.94.61.143 04:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The Wintersday theme might still be in debate. It'll be changed promptly though within the next day or two.--Neithan Diniem 04:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

i like how i made part two of the wintersday topic a few topics above this one and no one payed any attention to it.- Zesbeer 05:18, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I know, I had to hold my tongue a little there.--Neithan Diniem 05:43, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Storybooks and Treasures

Just wondering how those two are considered "Gear." Storybooks are technically a repeatable "quest" in where you complete the objectives for a reward. Treasures have nothing to do at all with gear besides the fact that you might get a weapon or runes item from them.--Neithan Diniem 21:07, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

yea i was wondering the same thing but couldn't be bothered to change it back...- Zesbeer 21:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Personally I view the treasures also as quests, only they can only be done once per 1-2 months.--Neithan Diniem 21:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I view both of them as mini-games. -- Konig/talk 20:10, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Why not just under pve? - Lucian Shadowborn 20:36, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

To be contributive this time... Under "Gear and equipment" makes sense, not for the section title, but for the sub-section title and what else is there: Items [...] Collectible trophies • Consumables • Miniatures.

The location of treasures goes with the others as chests, keys, (no need for lockpick as that's a kind of key) and treasures are similar items - with keys being linked to the first item.

What doesn't make sense, out of it all, is the title "Gear and equipment" - but I suppose it's called such for lack of a better title. Effectively, like items were grouped together, rather than being spread out unnecessarily. Also, treasure and storybook didn't fit under "The World • Campaign travel." In fact, I think storybook would be best placed under "Storyline • Guide to PvE." And on a side note: I dislike the icons greatly. Don't make much sense, but I guess it was done for Hearts of the North and never got to the main page? -- Konig/talk 20:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

I guess that makes sense... And I agree about the storybook part. Essentially the storybooks stem from the content added in EotN and the Hard Mode addition. At first, the books were for the faction titles, but then the idea was expanded for the campaigns. As for the icons, I feel that the edit page should be reverted to default icons for now, until the Crisis in Cantha storyline begins. Hearts of the North has reached its zenith and is no longer "in the spotlight." We missed our chance to document the short addition to Gwen and Thackeray's relationship like we did with the War in Kryta.--Neithan Diniem 04:12, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

yea i hate how it is now and i think it should be reverted back to how it was.- Zesbeer 11:46, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

So.. uhm..

→ moved from Talk:Main Page

We not bothering with the decorations on the main page this year? --Neil • 15:23, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

See #part2. --Silver Edge 20:14, 24 December 2010 (UTC)