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Historical guild tag[edit]

Can you make the changes to the Historical guild tag? The first batch of archiving is going to be starting this week, and I'd really like to have that done. Thanks! --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 05:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Done and done. Working fine as far as i tested, but still worth keeping an eye on it. For the sake of simplicity, even if you put notable=not, it will still take it as a yes, so for non-notable guilds just ignore the parameter altogether.--Fighterdoken 06:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I'll check it out and figure out what my options are. I just figured it would be easier to get it done now before the archiving really starts. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:51, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Is the text suppose to change if you add a reason? Guild:The Eternal Heroes Of Zendik (historical) --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 09:00, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
Yup, fixed it in the example you gave. The template works like {{historical guild|notable=wakawaka|reason=inactive|sort=j}}.--Fighterdoken 18:34, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


no worries ;-)--Justice 08:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Charr Bag[edit]

whoops. yeah, you're right. thanks for fixing it^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 20:21, 3 October 2008 (UTC)


Just won game. Congrats. —User Warwick Signature.png Warwick 20:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Round 5: Fight! revert[edit]

lol I was just reverting that as the guy the anon is mentioning is Argo I believe. --Kakarot Talk 20:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

zerpha[edit] i actually made the same edit, but i didn't even get an edit conflict o.O - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 20:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps if it's the exact same text it doesn't? like if you don't make any changes to a page? --JonTheMon 20:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) I think since a couple wiki versions ago, edit conflicts don't show when the edit is exactly the same. Happened a few times to me already when reverting vandalism.--Fighterdoken 20:31, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Yea, a "null edit" - an edit where nothing is changed from the previous version - doesn't show up in RC or the page history. ¬ Wizårdbõÿ777(talk) 21:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

(Reset indent) being on a word-of-thanks-spree for the reverts on my userpage, i thought i could thank you for that one as well now^^ —ZerphatalkThe Improver 17:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

TH-TH-THANKING SPREE - Y0_ich_halt User Y0 ich halt sig.png 14:46, 11 December 2008 (UTC)


Archive much? --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 20:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

At 64 :). Inactive pages don't really need to be archived that frequently. --Fighterdoken 20:43, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Es facíl "arkiabar" contenidos. Lo que pasa es que aqui es diferente! Hay que hacer un "copy/paste" a todo y es algo que el no puede permitirse hacer ahora o está orgulloso de su gran página! mi lenguaje natal es el español. Creo que algunos deben estar buscando el "translator"! Oh y hola.--ShadowFog 16:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
On spanish or english, please stop trolling, ShadowFog. And no, i don't archive first to avoid the "firsts", second because i am lazy, and third because this talk page hardly has any activity. If it becomes active sometime in the future i would archive as needed, but since it is not, i don't feel the need to do it as long as it is within the operational parameters for the wiki.--Fighterdoken 18:17, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
No one mentioned nothing about first... what the heck is that? Im trolling? Oh well that's what I get when I say. Have a good one then.--ShadowFog 19:08, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Blast from the Past[edit]

I know it's been quite a while, but why was this done a while back? — Rappy 18:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The guild pages policy was changed (or re-interpreted, can't remember) some time ago as to point that guild pages that wanted to use an alliance navbar had to use the default one. That change probably was related to that.--Fighterdoken 20:59, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Required to use the default one? Why? I remember when the change was made to it for #ifexists and changed mine to reflect that. Mine was created to allow different color usage than the default. — Rappy 03:11, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Some time after that, there was some discussion regarding customized templates and their out-of-sync nature (color dicussion included, due to people that didn't want to use {{guild}} since it wasn't consistent with their color scheme). In the end, consensus was made to change GWW:GUILD as to require guild articles to use the defaul templates (all), no customization allowed.--Fighterdoken 03:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
That's really kind of lame. Especially if a guild does indeed have a color scheme and isn't able to impliment it. Why would user spaces be completely customizable, and guild spaces not? Adding simple color options to {{guild}} as well as {{Alliance nav}} isn't hard at all and I don't see the reasoning behind not allowing it. — Rappy 03:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
You may do better checking the discussion on the policy change that happened, since there you can find all the pros and cons on color customization that we found at the time. Either way, if you feel that it is a change that should be implemented, you can draft a proposal for policy change (not really needed), or just propose the respective changes to {{guild}}, {{guild infobox}}, and {{alliance nav}}.--Fighterdoken 03:32, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Can you link that discussion? — Rappy 03:40, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
I am sure i am missing some, but those seem to be the ones related to the last modification to GWW:GUILD.--Fighterdoken 04:27, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for sorting out my guild page

--De Amazing Restless 22:57, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Editing others' comments[edit]

That's highly ironic considering who I am on GuildWiki. If you'd prefer me to simply add a "How ironic." post next time, I could do that. Semantics are semantic. Vili User talk:Vili 06:36, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

You should do that. Even if we have no specific rule about it, we don't edit other people's messages.--Fighterdoken 06:38, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
I suppose this explains why people get blocked for correcting Izzy's grammar? Vili User talk:Vili 06:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Nah, people usually get's blocked because they think they are being funny... and because they forget to read the big This talk page is being restricted to appropriate discussion aimed only towards Isaiah..--Fighterdoken 06:42, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Also, "who you are" on GuildWiki is really irrelevant here. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 08:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Not for that edit. Vili User talk:Vili 09:10, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Unless you're Auron of Neon, it is irrelevant. --User Pling sig.png Brains12 \ talk 17:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
To quote Shard, "you're no fun brains". Vili User talk:Vili 09:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Moving Goonies guild page[edit]

I really wish you had let them move it themselves. That's why I gave them those instructions. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 06:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Since they requested the page to be moved back it seemed that they weren't confident with moving the page themselves, so i thought it was better to just move it right away.--Fighterdoken 07:26, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
They will never learn if you don't let them do, you waited exactly 12 minutes from when I posted until you moved. Not everyone is hitting refresh every minute to see if their request had been answered. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 08:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
In reallity, i waited 30 seconds only, since i saw RC blink for the admin noticeboard, your answer, and did it right away without even checking the time stamps.
I prefer to do things first and THEN teach people how to do it in the future (when teaching, examples help a lot), but if you feel i am stepping on your shoes just revert the move and let them do it.--Fighterdoken 18:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I guess we just have a totally different philosophy on teaching. I've always found my students do better when they are given the chance to try, even if they fail, rather than having someone else do it for them. But of course I'm not going to revert your move, I was just pointing out that if we want editors to grow, we have to give them a chance. --Wyn's Talk page Wyn 18:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Thanks, I still dont understand what was wrong, since I am new and reading the 'help me's' are getting me nowhere so when ppl were saying I was wrong I had no idea how to fix it :P

Happy Valentine's Day![edit]

A Flower for you on Valentine's Day Happy V-Day!!! - Tesla 01:04, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

You mean happy "Singles Awareness Day"?--Fighterdoken 02:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Pft. It's a day for friendship too. - anja talk 08:58, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Legendary Revision[edit]

Thanks i did not know how to insert an image as a thumbnail. But i looked at your formating and figured it out--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Tempest (talk).

This Wiki is the mob. They will never listen, so do not waste your time with them.[edit]

They will troll you to the point when they will move the whole dicussion out of Mike's page like they did with me. HH LEADER User HH LEADER Peace symbol svg.png talk 05:55, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Nah, i think i said everything i had in mind regarding that issue. Besides, if they want to keep going on it, the discussion will keep going regardless of where they place it. In any case Backsword is right on that the conversation was going off-topic already.--Fighterdoken 06:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
One can be easily led off-topic and then be reminded of that, especially if other means of communications are used by worthy opponents for coordinating efforts. Quote: "You should really stop assuming other people's motivations, you are wrong most of the time and people ridicule you for it off-site. It makes it difficult to make a point when no one takes you seriously. Misery 18:49, 21 April 2009 (UTC)" User_talk:HH_LEADER/Archive_2009-04-21a. I must be wrong again assuming something like this for I am not among the people having off-site conversations about anybody else. HH LEADER User HH LEADER Peace symbol svg.png talk 13:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


Awesome. I thought I was the only one who views that. --TalkAntioch 16:31, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


Hey man, thanks for the tip! I'm very glad (and a little bit suprised, I must admit) that people are actually paying attention to meh page! Horray!

Thirsty River Bug[edit]

I run this quest for guildies and proph characters that need it... I've never noticed this bug... your saying you saw it happen? I'd love to confirm the bug and give resolution on the bonus effect MrPaladin talk 18:28, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I have failed run the mission a lot of times too, and have gotten the bug like 5-6 times (last one was a couple days ago). You get the "defeated" tag as soon as you get into the last room, but i think what all the attempts have had in common was that i took a lot of time (over 20 minutes) on reaching that part. Will upload a ss later if i remember...--Fighterdoken 18:54, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
ok I'll keep an eye on this page for your update then try to recreate the bug... MrPaladin talk 18:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
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I had the UI on spanish that time, so you will have to forgive that :P. The background image, minimap, and the King and Lyssha's team being alive should be proof enough that i have not yet engaged any creature. The text from the ghostly hero in the chat window should also be proof that this happened right after he finished opening the gates. Finally, the mission update notice and the quest log show the bug i am refering about. :::I thought i had taken a screenshot right before finishing the mission showing that the Kesskah's team was still alive (the ranger boss team), but i guess i did not.--Fighterdoken 21:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Wait... it's Warrior - Ranger - Monk, or Ranger - Warrior - Monk? (i think the wiki articles have the first two mixed up)...--Fighterdoken 22:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Interesting perhaps it's tied to hard mode... can you think of anying out of script that may have occured on the way to the last room? I want to try to figure a cause for this... MrPaladin talk 11:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Like i said above, what they have in common (or i think at least, can't really remember for sure) is that i took a lot of time on starting the last part of the mission (be it by failing on killing on the 1st/2nd room, or by afk'ing before the third). I would say wasting about 20 minutes sounds right.
Ow, happends in normal mode too.--Fighterdoken 18:14, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Ok I'll try to recreate based on that... MrPaladin talk 18:16, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry and thanks[edit]

Have to thank you too for adding the div's lol --madhatter 08:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Image rearranging...[edit]

Can you provide a screenshot as to how the avatar pages appear on your screen? This is how Avatar of Grenth appears on a 1024x768 screen resolution with the "Thumbnail size" in "My preferences" set on 180px. --Silver Edge 07:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

I think it's caused by Internet Explorer, not low resolution, because the "big white gap" appeared on the page when I viewed it on IE with a 1024x768 screen resolution; so the page appears differently when viewed using IE instead of Firefox. The only fixes I can think of is to swap the locations of both images (which would only make the "big white gap" into a small white gap [1]), resize the images to make them smaller, or move both images to the bottom of the article and place them side by side horizontally of each other. --Silver Edge 08:23, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
I moved the images of M.O.X to the bottom of each page, which seemed to have solved the problem. --Silver Edge 09:40, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Indeed, looks better now.--Fighterdoken 17:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC)


I know. I will start it when I wake up and have the time. too tired to think on an actual rfa right now. It's 1 am. Thanks though. Appreciate your help too. :-) ♥ Ariyen ♀ 06:05, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This is why I did that.

From my understanding, the skills on them are capturable, are they not? -- User Ariyen sig icon.gifriyen 02:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Elite skills can't be captured from boss-like foes.--Fighterdoken 03:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh my god[edit]

I have no idea how I missed that, but you are a godsend. Thank you so much! I love you for that! The other wiki pages were made last year and I never did the pages for Blake and Kyndra so I'm going back to do just that. Haha I feel silly for it, but appreciate the save :) --Norrukki User Norrukki SigIcon.png 06:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


It was rather disingenuous to suggest that this was a 1RV when you had already done In any case, I registered a dissenting opinion on Talk:Halloween 2009. However, have it your way. --DryHumour 17:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Last time i checked, the first one counted as a single edit and not a revert. Feel free to call 1RR on GWW:NOTICE if you feel otherwise, though.--Fighterdoken 17:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, which is why I brought it up here. I see your point, though: it was an edit rather than a revert to an earlier version. If this is timezone business is a perennial problem, some sort of GWW:GF ought to be drafted so that other newbies like myself are less likely to innocently cause problems. --DryHumour 17:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
Just FYI, I've made a proposal to formalize this at GWWT:GF#Time Zones. --DryHumour 17:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

perma ban review[edit]

Well the rfr was actually started by Pling and Auron and I think another one or two on Gordon's old Rfa. I don't think Misery needs 'all' the blame for that. 03:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright Violation[edit]

Can you please check the link on the talk page? I really want to keep this picture :(--/u/nendingfear 19x19px 18:58, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

We have a very screwy policy when it comes to image licensing. Chances are, it is a copyright case even if it's free use. NuVII User NuclearVII signature 3.jpg 19:45, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Indeed. As far as uploading content on this site you have to ask yourself:
  • Is the content owned by Anet?
  • Is the content explicitly released under GFDL 1.2 or later?
  • Is the content explicitly released under CC/CC-BY?
  • Is the content explicitly released as Public Domain by the "original" author? (and no, just because you found it on 4chan doesn't make it valid)
  • Am i the original owner of the content?
If the answer to all those is "no", then chances are you cannot upload the content here.--Fighterdoken 19:52, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Range blocking[edit]

Hello! Responding to your edit summary here, I don't know the limitations of range blocking on this wiki, but I'm on a /11 at the moment (which has 2 million potential hosts) and I know that the MediaWiki software only allows blocking of /16 and smaller. I think I get assigned to other ranges sometimes too. Check this out if you're curious. There's a tool at the bottom where you can plug in IPs and it gives you the necessary range to block. 05:30, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

(Avatar) What should I do?[edit]

I found out the link to the source of the image under the edit of the picture, but, I can't access it... :(--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 21:36, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

I tried to trace back the site where the image was linked to, but to not avail. As such, i guess you will just have to find some other non-dubious content to upload.--Fighterdoken 21:04, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Ehhh, I'll just go with Zatsune Miku then n.n--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 21:10, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Just be sure it has the proper licensing. If it is GFDL, authory has to be made clear. If it is PD, leave a note for the source too.--Fighterdoken 21:13, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it has any of that shit, Zatsune Kiku is a fanmade version, no copyright stuff.--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 21:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
That should cover character design only.
If the image itself is GFDL, then you need to give the proper attribution to the author, or provide a link to where the information for the author of that image in particular is available.
Let me give you an example: [2]. While Xp-tan is a fanmade design, that image in particular belongs to... uhm... Tomokazu Sugimura if i am not wrong, and is used comercially. It is not released as GFDL/PD/CC-BY.
Can you truly say that the image you uploaded was released under a license accepted by this wiki? "I don't know" is not really an acceptable answer as far as licensing goes.--Fighterdoken 21:48, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Well, I can say for one thing, the image I got is not commercial. There was no copyright stuff that I saw :/ <.<--/ u /nendingfear 19x19px 21:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
"...that I saw" is the problem. GFDL and this wiki in particular are kinda troublesome in that regard, so you need to be certain the content is released under a compatible license for uploading here. "Not sure" means the content can't be uploaded really.--Fighterdoken 21:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

"because pro players have the holy right to tell Anet how to make their game"[edit]

Because it's you, I'm under the impression that this is sarcasm. If so, Thanks! for the laugh! -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 05:11, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


Why is it placed in trivia in most of the other skills? Aka Aegis and why does it say this... "Notes
Any special notes about using the skill."
(not the history of the skill) and "Trivia
Trivia about the skill, such as the skill name being a reference to pop culture. Skills that are related to each other by lore can also be mentioned in this section, such as the relationship between Teinai's Crystals and Teinai's Prison both being named after the same person."

There is no real lore relation to skill balance, however. I'd keep it in "See Also", so its not confused. --User Wandering Traveler Sig2.png Wandering Traveler 00:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Skill history is by its own nature a "note about the skill (past) usage".
In regards of why is put in the wrong section everywhere else, by mistake probably.--Fighterdoken 00:36, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay. So, put it in == Notes == instead? As i'm trying to follow policy, while doing this project. Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 00:42, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that works, or if you prefer you can do something along the lines of what i left at the Aegis article.--Fighterdoken 00:44, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh, can do that. Thank you! Kaisha User Kaisha Sig.png 00:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Notable Guild[edit]

I do not see why a bronze trim guild, peak r65, does not qualify as a notable guild when compared to guilds such as Tortuga Bay who are listed and have achieved less than ourselves. I also fail to see how LaZy and KISS have so many pages when only the alliance has been recognized, not each individual guild. Does this somehow give them the right to have 10+ tags where as a guild who has achieved more than they have is not entitled to a single tag? The reasoning behind this still not clear to me. Vhang 05:04, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

As i said, bring this to GWWT:GUILD. Whatever my opinion my be, is irrelevant as far as the current rules for notability assignation go.--Fighterdoken 05:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

"2 years ago it was a lot less problematic than now."[edit]

PvX's wikia move so soon after GuildWiki's disastrous wikia move had a lot of people stop stalking PvX and start using it only as a reference. To fill the time, people came here. (That's only one contribution, but it was a reasonably large one, I think.) -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 05:05, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree... PvX was a breeding ground for trolls. Now a lot of people are bored (due to lack of real new content) and for some it's only natural to troll for entertainment when they get bored. Not really that different from a bunch of bored and frustrated drunk guys at a bar baiting people for a fight. --Lania ElderfireUser Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg 16:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Don't walk away under the impression that GWW isn't a breeding ground for trolls, too. There's just as little to do here as there was on PvX when the trolling became a big deal; the difference is that Auron, DE, and I were the major admins for that site, and none of us were as heavy-handed as we should have been (until the Great Anti-Trolling Announcement, but that's another story). PvX just evolved faster than GWW is due to its leadership. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png{{Bacon}} 03:54, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I wish DE would come back. --Lania ElderfireUser Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg 03:56, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

fixed what was broken[edit]

Thanks! I'll note how to do that for next time | 72 User 72 Truly Random.jpg | 00:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


thanks for catching my mistake on the pink dye vend trivia. i didn't backspace far enough apparently. <3 |Cynn's Thong|User Cynn's Thong Sig.png 02:30, 22 October 2010 (UTC)