Talk:Halloween 2009

Bruce's first warning

...and I'm telling ya, that Asura TOTALLY stole my Candy Apple! I mean,why didn't he just ask me, I would definatly shared...

Oh? Is it my turn? Sorry, I- never mind.

Hrrrrm... ok, here it goes:

"The Mad King comes! Beware!"

Happy now?

Bruce Da Herald 18:26, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This page has a lot more content than what I had to tag for deletion before.-- anguard 19:39, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Probably b/c ANet made an announcement about it. --JonTheMon 20:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Where? In-game? (I can't check GW atm). Karate Jesus 20:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Anet website, KJ. personn5 20:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe at login, but check the External Links on the page. --JonTheMon 20:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Just added all the new info...

...but I'm a wiki n00b, so you pros can make it look better! :)Charocles 19:40, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

is it just me...

..or does someone else wan't a new version of Pumpkin Crown this year? Like, they did a new version of Dragon mask? Personaly, I think the time is right: with one-in-a-lifetime-quests and all that! :DCharocles 20:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I want a pumpkinhead myself, I missed the Halloween that had them. Along with the witch hat. I got all the festivla masks that don't match anything :(-- anguard 20:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I want the older pumpkinhead and the witch hat. And don't get me started with 2005 and 2006 Wintersday hats. I missed all of them! :D - J.P.Talk 09:35, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I wanted the witch hat too, but I didn't have Nightfall at the time. It'd be neat if they did do a different version of it! Blessed Jade Wind 15:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Just wanna hav ye' olde pumpkin on me head

I know what ure talking about, JP... I missed alot of those early masks, 2!:/ However, I'm happy to say that I maneged to get the Freeze Crown (or what its called...). I rly love it :D Charocles 17:01, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Last year's face-paint was positively awesome (my rit sports it year round when hanging out in towns). I really think two pumpkin heads is enough... This year I want something animated or glowy, or another thing like the face-paint. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:00, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Ye olde GLOWIN pumpkin head?

we NEED another pumpkin hat... we crave it.. we demand it... we... rly want one plzzz!!!DD: No but seriously, another pumpkin crown would be awesome... It could be called "Mad Pumpkin Crown". Thats e very good idéa!!!^^Charocles 10:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Now, if it is Mad King's head, then sure go ahead (ha!). But seriously, holidays are already severely lacking when it comes to fresh content or incentive to even log in. I'm very glad, it seems they're putting a lot of effort into this halloween from the looks of Lindsay's journal things, but we already have two pumpkin heads and the second one was ridiculous (wow, a cute smiling pumpkin head, that really is great...). Enough rehashing, please, PLEASE, isn't that what April was for? Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Charocles,we need a totally tricked out pumpkin this time. I never liked the wolf mask or mummy mask. 71.145.155.219 13:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween mask;s other than the evil pumpkin and witch hat really made me mad, i didn't like the result's, not to thrilled with last years Wintersday either--Lord randy taylor 00:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

New Quests

Only this Halloween season, maybe some sort of end-chest prize -> Mini Mad King's Guard? Rarity on the scale of Mini Polar Bear.. -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 08:48, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

My guess is that will be either a mad king guard minipet or, being halloween, maybe one Makeover credit as a reward for quests.--Sharkinucontribs 08:52, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Mmm I don't think it will be Makeover credits since they have never given real-money-purchasable items away in-game before. -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 10:28, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Yup, I agree. I think it might be something along the Traveler gifts - an exclusive/rare mini, maybe a green. I doubt it would have a rarity on the scale of the polar Bear, tho. It would have to have a chance of appearing out of w/e end reward it is, and with millions of people going at it, it's bound to pop up more often. 89.122.19.195 12:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Or maybe EL Tonic of Mad King Thorn... Lápi 13:14, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

I wouild like to make my perdictions that the quests offered will be solo quests and when your off doing them your will get a buff, so your health,energy and armor is set, i think there may be like the winterday quests where they are repeatble. also need to add to the page that the costume brawl starts on friday as well as all the NPC collecters shouild be ariveing--Thedreadlordpie 14:39, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Probably be new summoning stones. Batchie 14:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

"Makeover Credit" That is not how cash-shops work. No company in their decrepit mind would just hand stuff out for free when they can make you pay for it in the cash shop or better yet PUT IT ON SALE (which actually brings in more money then not having a sale). /cashshopangst, anyway I will go off on a whim and guess it has something to do with GW2/Ancient Dragons. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes. But also they never made quests exclusive for only one festival edition. If the quest will not be repeatable and will be account wide, it's possible; like a "demo version" for the makeover pack. Also a special emote would be nice--Sharkinucontribs 19:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

ToT drops

I didn't manage to be active last year on Haloween, so when do the drops start? 23rd? 26th? Anyone recall how it was last year? 89.122.19.195 12:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Probably the 23rd.-- anguard 13:45, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

What is the meta for power-farming holiday items these days? Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Raptors, permasin. gogo.-- anguard 20:11, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Too bad they killed kegging. I farmed over 10k points over the Birthday Celebration. Got myself max sweets. I guess the ele will have to participate in the vaettir genocide this time around. 89.122.19.195 09:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

And thanks for the answer. Really looking forward to the weekend now. 89.122.19.195 09:35, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Is raptors easy to pick up in a day or less? I've never attempted it before (excluding an hour or two of asura leeching). Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

It takes a couple of runs to get used to the timing and such.-- anguard 20:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Raptor farming isn't hard, its just getting the timing right and finding a good place while to spam sliver. It took me around 5 goes to get the hang of it, but it is worth it. Flaming Hot Chilli 20:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I hope

The hats are better than last year. smøni 16:04, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

They weren't bad. Well designed, but doesn't match anything. The best festival hats are the ones you can get to match something.-- anguard 16:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Zombie mask went pretty good with white primevil MrPaladin † talk 16:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

>Implying the face-paint wasn't one of the best holiday items ever.

ಠ_ಠ Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 20:10, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Uuum... btw...

I like cake.Charocles 16:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

*Feeds him some cake* Thrain | talk 21:50, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

• Smiles, and begin to eat. Then realizes that the cake is a lie, and spits it out* -WHAT did you feed me!!!!?Charocles 10:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

"Fillet of a fenny snake,

In the cauldron boil and bake;

Eye of newt and toe of frog,

Wool of bat and tongue of dog,

Adder's fork and blind-worm's sting,

Lizard's leg and howlet's wing,

For a charm of powerful trouble,

Like a hell-broth boil and bubble." 89.122.19.195 14:31, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Ew... MacBeth... Never quote Macbeth again...ever--Jigweasel 17:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

You feed me with... that? o.o *pukes*Charocles 18:18, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, it was in cake-form. I thought that you wouldn't be able to tell. Thrain | talk 21:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

It's a TRAP!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6ljFaKRTrI 114.78.7.146 05:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

How did you manage to make all THAT into a CAKE!!!??? O.O And it's a trap?! I just wanted some cake...SOMEONE PLEASE HELP MEEEE!!!D: Charocles 16:14, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, in GW there are only cupcakes and pie. Paddymew 14:39, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Collectors

Anyone know if the normal collectable NPC's will be at the event or have I been farming the crap for nothing, lol

I'm sure they will be, but we don't add them to the page until the appear in the game. And they don't all appear at once, they come over time, so don't worry if they aren't there at first. -- Wyn talk 00:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Someone on Guru .dat'd the new quest

Here's what he found:
"Gathered from gw.dat

- will probably be a solo quest.
- take place in the underworld.
- player is transformed into an Agent of the Mad King with a custom skill bar.

The goal it seems is to capture as many Skeleton of Dhuum as possible while avoiding traps/enemies.

Agent of the Mad King skills
Sugar Rush - speed boost
Sticky Ground - snare
Sugar Shock - knock down
Everlasting Mobstopper - capture Skeleton of Dhuum

Mob skills or traps
Bone Spike
Flurry of Splinters"

There's also a bug right now. Use a tonic and then a sugar item and it will say something about Mad King Sugar Rush or something. Can't remember what it said. Karate Jesus 18:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I hate that they don't start until Monday :/ Karate Jesus 19:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

1 problem, they say chain of questS in plural, wich normally means there will be more than one :D --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:84.196.126.75 (talk).

I'd doubt it. Karate Jesus 20:31, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

literal quotation (text under quest of the halloween page on the official guildwars site): ""The new series of Halloween quests starts in Lion's Arch and Kamadan. Speak with the Mad King's Steward to begin your adventure! Remember, these quests are only available this year, so be sure to complete them while you can!""

I highlighted the important words for you, those words used in plural. So I don't know if it is a doubt.

Thank you for trying to spoil everything! Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 18:29, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! And honestly, I haven't seen anything to convince me that there's more than one quest. Mistakes with "plurals" have been made in the past. It's possible that there's just one. Karate Jesus 13:59, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

If you say so, it would be nice tough if there will be more than 1 quest.

I think it's highly likely that there be a chain of quests. Do one, do something else for the guys you just helped, help them fix what they broke, etc. There is precedent for this, and it's much more likely than a single quest. 89.122.19.195 08:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Karate Jesus, they didn't just say "quests". They wrote "SERIES OF QUESTS", implying that there's more than one. Hope that's it's clear this time, but yet again I'm not sure. --Frozen 15:22, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Dude, WTF? Only 2 Halloween quests??? Now that sucks... --[[Image:Canthan script - dark.jpg|30px]]Timus 06:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm enjoying reading this after the fact. Also, KJ, no one mistakes every instance for the plural, not to mention the improbability of writing "them" for "it"... anyway, tis behind us now| 72 {U|T|C} 15:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

How do you find those .dat files and what are they ? :P Reaper of Scythes Talk 23:28, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

It's a file in your Guild Wars folder. See Gw.dat. --Silver Edge 04:17, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

collectors verified in place

Horseman Numango in Ascalon takes 3 charr carvings gives one of the following witches brew, squash serum, ghost in the box, vile of absinthe you pick

Horseman Vulgamor in Lions Arch takes 3 Decayed Orr Emblems gives one of the following witches brew, squash serum, ghost in the box, vile of absinthe you pick

Horseman Saralim in Henge of Denravi takes 2 Maguma Manes gives one of the following witches brew, squash serum, ghost in the box, vile of absinthe you pick

Horseman Maxilus in the Sunspear Great Hall takes 2 Mandragor Carapaces and also gives out the above list.

Rockweaver 21:07, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Horseman Kronar in Kodlunu Hamlent takes 3 Silver Bullion Coins, and gives the standard list.

Horseman Naramor in Kamadan, Jewel of Istan takes 2 Mandragor Carapaces, and gives the standard list. 98.246.30.228 05:45, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Underworld quest?

I'm a relatively new player and have not ascended yet-- do holiday quests like these typically require you to have access to the area (in this case, the Underworld), or do they teleport you there somehow?

Bard09 4:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

You get teleported there --RIDDLE 05:09, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit Conflict: Usually the quest NPC will teleport you from a port town, (Either Lion's Arch, Kamadan or Kaineng Centre) directly to the Underworld. This is how the Wintersday quests, which take place in the Underworld, are handled. You can be any level and still enter the Underworld from the quest NPC. In the case of the Wintersday quests, the version of the Underworld you load into is different from the one you see normally, and you are buffed to keep it accessible to anyone. Ascension, or its equivalent, does not matter. 114.78.7.146 05:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

These Halloween quests require you to have access to one of the UW access cities, like Temple of the Ages or Chantry of Secrets, not just a port city. However, you don't have to be Ascended/Hunted/Weh No Su, or even level 20, to enter, only must have a run to the city, the easiest obviously being LA-ToA. Rose Of Kali 11:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Why only Lions Arche and Kamadan?

Am I the only one wondering why this event only takes place in Kamadan and Lions Arche? or are there more people wondering why the madking wont appear in Kaining center? I hope for a quick response.--Wysth 11:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe because the Dragon Festival is Factions-only. | 72 {U|T|C} 14:13, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

And Canthan New Year. It's always been this way, LA and Kamadan get Halloween and Wintersday, Cantha gets Dragon Festival and CNY. -- Wyn talk 14:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Probably because Halloween isn't celebrated by the Canthan people.  ;)

Please sign your replies! | 72 {U|T|C} 17:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Also Anet had two teams working on the creation on their games, one team worked on Prophecies and Nightfall, whilst the other just on Factions - prolly another reason why Halloween is in Tyria and Elona, and not Cantha. -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 21:02, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

If I had a dollar, every time someone asked this same question... personn5 21:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Every year. I see this topic.-- anguard 21:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok thx everyone for the response and sorry for the asking--Wysth 19:58, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Its NP Wysth... as they say the question comes up from time to time... I think its also a marketing ploy to get people to buy all expansions... MrPaladin † talk 20:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Well, I did get some ToTs when Nick-farming this week. No quests or hats or collectors, but at least you can get ToTs. Rose Of Kali 11:20, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

@ MrPaladin - it could be a marketing ploy, or something to do with the fact that Kaineng Center is almost always packed with people anyway. I don't much enjoy watching my ping go up into the 50k range during the New Year, and I think Halloween would do the same. Kamadan is bad enough, thank you. - Vik 18:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

New quests

What time (in GMT) will the game be updated for the new Halloween quests tomorow anyone? -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 23:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

19:00 GMT - J.P.Talk 23:10, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

In 7 hours 45 mins or 19 hours 45 mins? Thanks 62.64.143.43 23:17, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

That was me sorry -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 23:18, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Later one unfortunetly :( - J.P.Talk 23:23, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

:C -- Skeletor, lord του νεκρός 23:24, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

i hope the rewards are good something unique that you can get any other way like a pet would be awesome. 112.141.66.231 09:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Perma sins doomed us all

Ahahahaha! damn you ecto farmers ;)--Orgeron 19:11, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

"too many have been slain in the underworld recently" - The Ice King. thats obviously uwsc lol Jonny10 19:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Were is the second quest after the ice king?Death Sligher 19:17, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

tommorow? Nice quest really liked it :p

I'm guessing that this is it. Just my opinion, but plural mistakes have been made before. Karate Jesus 19:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

i hope there more lol that quest only took like 2 mins --Nick123 19:27, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'm definitely wrong. There have to be more because the .dat'd file showed other skills and the quest was left open. God, I hope they're not going day-by-day. Karate Jesus 19:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Based on the reward dialogue, I'd say they're doing exactly what you're hoping they won't do. -- FreedomBound

Then, yay! I don't get to participate in the majority of the quests (unless they save until you accept them). Good day....good day. Karate Jesus 19:41, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

i hope they dont do that 2 coz im away for 3 of teh days lol :( --Nick123 19:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

YES YES YES! Boo to the ecto farmers that OMFGSPOILER HERE, REALLY, STOP READING NOW, PLEASE!>>>awakened Dhumm. It will be interesting to see how this evolves and I hope the questline is easy so that everyone can do it, because from a lore perspective this seems to be pretty interesting and important at the same time.<<< CONTINUE READING FROM..hello? You can read now xD. The reward was nice, 15 Candy Corn Tonics. Markus Clouser 20:30, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Its just a questline to introduce underworld changes:D.Death Sligher 20:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

You UWSC are releasing dhuum same on you... Every time a creature in the Underworld dies, the release of life energy adds to Dhuum's dark power, possibly eventually enabling his release, as explored in Something Wicked This Way Comes. Death Sligher 22:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

As a former UWSC'er I suggest that we just let Dhuum get released and then we can kill him. Much like Abaddon but this time with more candy involved. Then all we have to do is destroy Menzies and we'll be out of evil gods? to vanquish.-Kage No Yugata 23:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

There's a 100% chance that the Goddess of Truth is evil. You just know it. 24.197.253.243 04:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Evil but /snoozeville, and if the quest tomorrow involves fighting Dhuum then tonight we dine IN UNDERWORLD!-Kage No Yugata 09:10, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

<Spoiler> All I've got to say is, Dhumm has taken my character's soul many many times...--Unendingfear 00:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Isn't sending alot of people (with amongst them a lot of noobs wich wil die in uw with the queste) a good tactic to awaken Dhuum?

We want Dhuum to live and kill all the other gods cause theyre boring.--King Of Kamelott 08:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

You sound like Sheogorath, HEATHEN! Besides, Dhuum isn't dead, he's merely imprisoned. Paddymew 14:42, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

New enemy's underworld?

I tried to farm smites when I noticed a new group of graspings on my way. Are they adding new foes to Underworld with each halloween quest? (example on my run to the smites the gates were open but their spawn 2graspings at this gate.) Death Sligher 23:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Transformed Krytan

Up by the top storage chest in Lion's Arch is in the form of a krytan.. << Magic Talk 03:01, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Well he does say he was a Tengu yesterday, but has been now transformed into "an ugly human".--Шзвч [TALK] @ 10:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Decorated Cities Bug?

Has anyone noticed that map travelling to any town that is decorated will only show one district reguardless of how many districts there really are? KJZ 05:03, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Now that you've mentioned it ... map travel really does show only 1 American district, while switching between districts directly from Lion's Arch shows it has 8 American districts right now.--Шзвч [TALK] @ 10:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too. Hope that this bug will soon be fixed. --Frozen 10:14, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

yes I get the same thing. It should be reported to support Jonny10 10:15, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

It is fixed for Lions Arch and Kamadan, The issue has not been fixed Droknar's Forge or Tomb of the Primeval Kings, yet. KJZ 03:35, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Just one quest?

I read the announcement and it was Plural. so Anet, where are the other quests? 84.228.126.157 17:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I suspect they're releasing them one by one (or something similar). If that's the case, we should expect another one in an hour or so. Shadow Runner 17:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween Pet and or Miniature

I think it would be a nice addition, a theme miniature or pet, especially pet. Something like an Undead of some kind, and you could only get it during Halloween (obviously.) What do you think? Snowstone 18:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

I've been hoping for a mini transmogrifier dude to match the tonic :)

Walkin' pumpkin = AWESOME

I am hoping for the ever popular black car. KJZ 04:14, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

A walkin pumpkin is great, what about a miniature BOUNCING pumpkin ^^ ?--82.231.116.244 02:01, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Maybe a Hellhound, present from the Mad King by completing the Halloween quest chain, for good services :P Snowstone 10:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Quest Acquisition / Time Frame

The question i am looking to see, and should be in the quest section somewhere, is what time frames can you accept these quests?

• when can you start accepting the quest
• when is the quest no longer offered?
• at what point are you prohibited from entering uw for the quest any more?
• when is the reward no longer offered for the quest?

Some people cannot be here every day, but if they can run in and grab the quests and do them later that would be useful to know. --131.193.231.129 19:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Seriously, someone test this. I'm at work today and can't do the quest and would love to find out if it's possible. If it's not, let's bitch to Anet and have them change it. Karate Jesus 19:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

According to GWGuru, it works. I've updated the appropriate pages. You have to do them in order, and they're offered to each character in order regardless of what day it is. Karate Jesus 20:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Thats good, because my connections been shit for the last two days, And I can't play GW with 4-6k ping. Hopefully it'll get better at the end of the week :| personn5 22:47, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

my gess is that they just end the quests giving when Halloween ends aka removing the npc that gives it.

so far you can just get quest nr1 turn it in and get follow up--Elliot 23:06, 27 October 2009 (UTC) I already told it: i tested it and the quests are not day-bound.(see discussion 2nd halloween quest)

The Bug template is bugged

The lady bug and the red "Bug" text from the towns bug note appear in front of the Halloween items table instead. The body text of the bug note is where it should be. No clue how to fix it, looks right in the code. O_O Rose Of Kali 11:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It's displaying right on mine (1280x1024, Firefox 3). You could always add a few spaces. | 72 {U|T|C} 13:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Template_talk:Bug#Working_on_it --Itay Alon 13:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

City disctict bug

Its been fixed so i removed bug note--Lord randy taylor 19:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

No New Quests?

Seems to be no new quest today, Anet sure are keeping the public happy -.-

Right, where is it? --DAVA 19:22, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

According to people in LA the absence of a new quest is due to the fact that some people found yesterdays quest "too hard" and they wanted to give people more time to complete it. Apparently Regina posted that on a forum somewhere or something along those lines.--Evil guy563 19:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd rather believe there isn't another quest than check the forums... Tidas 19:27, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Well that's not logic because... If many people think it's too hard, many people probably died wich means normally Dhuum would wake up faster, as he got more energy thanks to all those dying noobs (nothing personal, no offense)--Echo, Sierra Echo(this is not a cheap bond rip-off XD) 19:44, 28 October 2009 (UTC)19:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Um...ok, 1) the quest wasn't hard. It just took a while. 2) Never listen to the forums unless they have actual information from an official source or screenshots to prove what they're saying. 3) They technically have 4 (5?) more days to complete it. The quests have to be done in order. 4) Who knows what the hell is happening? No one. So quit speculating.

They'll tell us soon what's happening or just not provide another quest. Either way....it's probably gonna suck. Karate Jesus 19:40, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

As Regina stated on GW Guru (yet another great work from the communication team), these quests aren't daily. --Frozen 19:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I would expect Arenanet to have had this planned out so that all the quests would finish at a specific time. I don't think they pushed this time back a day. Besides, the quests aren't time-sensitive day-wise. You can do yesterday's quest and today's without stalling all the people that did yesterday's.... yesterday. Taros 19:43, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey I'm not saying its true just repeating what people have told me.--Evil guy563 19:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

ive found the post my regina on guru ill copy past it here:

You'rz totally right, but you can't bring a quest on the last day of en event without having people complain about it...+ you can't make like a lot of quests , dhuum wakes up and get defeated... 1quest [QUOTE=Regina Buenaobra;4914759]Halloween quests are not daily. There are multiple quests spanning the course of the event, but not one for each day. Just check in with the steward every so often.[/QUOTE] --Nick123 19:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh, shit. She said it on guildwars.incgamers.com and some GWGuru member just happened to see it and post it on Guru.

There's some grade A quality CRs going on lately. /sigh. Karate Jesus 19:56, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I was really looking forward to a new quest. I like these. --24.159.219.162 21:07, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Its rough the first time, complete it once and you'll have it down, just make good use of your Knock-downs, and MK influence, i didn't think it was hard when i did the quest the first time, i thought to much work for the reward but decided eh something good will come at the end--Lord randy taylor 23:54, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

I would imagine, since Arenanet likes setting things up like theres a pattern and then smashing it into the ground with some twisted sense of developer logic (just look at Deldrimor armor in EoTN) that the last quest(s) will become avaliable the day before, or on the day of the finale, and cause massive amount of issues because they will be challenging and people will miss out blah-blah-blah. But, I could be wrong.

As for the quests; as with most things people don't know how to use the function of patience, or observe patterns. First quest was an absolutely breeze, second quest was challenging but with the reduction in spawns within the UW itself it was only the Pits, with the way it's laid out, that proved to be time-consuming. After discussions I have had with people in Kamadan and LA, the main issue people are running into is exactly that, they run into it thinking they a) can do it by just running really fast, and b) forget that each skill has a specific useful function. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 18:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

There better fucking well be a new quest today. It's not my fault people are morons that can't handle 10 second KDs. Instead of slowing everyone else down, give these idiots an extra day AFTER the quests are introduced... 147.226.88.228 19:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

According to Regina again, there will be no quest tomorrow either. But I'm not in US, so maybe that she was in fact talking about today. Go figure... That's a good excuse for them to delay their "work" anyway. --Frozen 19:29, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't mind there not being a quest today, but this quest chain is really fun, and not having a quest is like waking up Christmas morning

and finding you didn't get any presents. All week. How about a schedule guys? -63.16.21.4 19:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Regina_Buenaobra/Journal#Quick_Reminder_About_Frequency_of_Halloween_Quests_-_29_October_2009 de Kooning 19:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I found your comments actually laughable, Regina has stated on her journal that the quests ARE NOT DAILY but that theres just a series of them, which means that they could appear within the next few days, the festival continues right through till Monday which means youve still got 4 days of which the quests could appear on so try to be patient and stop complaining. People think just because its Halloween this week and the introduction of a quest chain automatically makes it daily? wrong, just because its a new quest chain does not mean it has to be daily so try to have some patience about it.Simzy 19:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Exactly, there is no real reason to hold back on further quests due to them all being available. Looks more like the quests are not ready or they may be dumbing them down. Aro 21:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

ITT People complaining about innovative progressive quest implementation (innovative as far as guild wars goes) only because it's not daily. Wow people, way to be. Let's just forget about trying to add some vitality to a PvE-dry 5 year old game and go back to farming z-quests.

And to the Mr's and Mrs's that want to be chauvinistic and tout their "amazing" ability; no, the quest isn't hard. The issue isn't a hard quest. The issue is mechanics flaws - mostly out of the hands of players - that make what should have been a pleasant quest into a painstaking experience. Have you been living under a rock? Actually, this may be news to you, but not everyone is a 5 year Guild Wars vet. Guild Wars publicity is not yet awfully low which means a lot of new players join daily and are fresh to everything. So in fact, in some cases the quest is indeed hard with very high-end mobs and a large initially map-less zone. There should be no manner of elitism trying to downcast new players who want to participate in a holiday.

No, I'm sure no one is excited to not have as many new quests as fast as possible. This isn't what is supposed to excite people, you're supposed to be excited about the content, and when it's delivered is irrelevant especially in this case. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

A piece of advice from someone who's not a 5 year Guild Wars vet: Grow the fuck up. ~~000.00.00.00~~ 01:02, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Nice. I've never seen that one used before. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 02:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

New Hat Info

Anyone know when we get the info on what's the new hat? 71.145.155.219 22:15, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

We wont until the 31st. --Bestat Talk to me! 22:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Noone will know untill its actually released on the day.So your just going to have to wait untill saturday im afraid.Simzy 22:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

What we cant speculate? :D -/- Discuss 03:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

 ;) Sardaukar 05:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

IM guessing something to do with stone. Stone mask but a stone mini pet is also possible. Also if these min quest lead to fighting Dhuum it might be something to do with Dhuum.

Dhuum is pretty strongly implied to be a really big bug of some kind. Insect mask might be possible. –Jette 06:00, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I want a pet rock. --Yuki Winterchill 12:17, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Pumpkin. Yes, I know what you're going to say, but I want a non-kiddie-cartoony pumpkin even though there were pumpkins before. Also, last year I heard rumors that you can find out earlier what hats are going to be while exploring gw.dat but I can wait till 31st without spoilers. Markus Clouser 13:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd say it would be a bit more advisable to just wait than search through the .dat file on the advise of year old rumors anyway. Tidas 14:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I want that evil looking moon up there :3 72.234.142.143 16:22, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Cheese Head Hat -/- Discuss 16:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Dhuum is a Wisconsinite? 24.197.253.243 17:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of the moon, I lost a couple minutes yesterday watching that Grim Reaper made of clouds in the LA sky - Vik 18:43, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

The community could really do without people who spoil yet-to-be-implemented but confirmed content. It's really troubling why people rush around so much. I don't see the logic in wanting to spoil things like what the next quest will be like or what the hat will be. If it's an urge to document the game perfectly, I see it as counter intuitive to documentation; just because you know it's coming doesn't mean it should be presented, it's not in the game yet and is not meant to be a part of anything yet. The .dat file is not what this wiki is here to document. What you're doing is like going up on stage during a theater production and demanding that the actors announce what the rest of the play will be like. That is honestly not your business and it is not really kind to anyone who is trying to savor things as they happen. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Then don't read it. - Mini Me talk 21:40, 29 October 2009

Yeah are you saying we can't wonder at all? And it's not like we're demanding that ANet immediately announce what it will be. It's a game, we can wonder and speculate all we want. 71.145.155.219 22:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Extended Halloween?

Because we missed out on a day of quests, does that mean Halloween will be extended to add room for all quests? (That is if there was 5 quests in the first place)? Flaming Hot Chilli 20:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

There weren't so as of now, no there will not be a redux. Info about this can be found in other categories above. 76.6.79.104 21:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Instead of starting another uninformed "Aw why not daily" topic, scroll up and join the already existent clamor. And then stop assuming things and making suggestions based on human greed. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 21:40, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Could you stop making fan fiction based on human greed? Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 21:52, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Wow what a relevant comment. Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 23:53, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

^ Ɲoɕʈɋɽɕɧ 00:33, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

As awesome as it would be, I wouldn't count on it, as the Quests aren't daily, they are meant to span the course of the Holiday. It's disappointing, but gives you something to look forward too. akka 00:32, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

That's just illogical... Why not make them on a bi-daily basis? Supposing that there is 4 of them, that would be 26-28-30-1. Two days to accomplish each quest, which is more than enough. In my opinion Anet messed up something and took all the possible excuses and that's why people are angry. --Frozen 00:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) That's just illogical. Furthermore, QQ | 72 {U|T|C} 00:57, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Bringing out a Quest on every day is illogical. Bringing out a Quest on an unpredictable basis still keeps that element of surprise. akka 01:03, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Making a new section is not stupid, I bet alot of people were wondering the same thing as me. Who knows, Anet might have had that old 5th quest hiding somewhere in the basement but didnt want to use it. Flaming Hot Chilli 22:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Not that is really matters...

... but is Loremaster_Ermenred missing or was he just moved and I didn't see him? 76.6.79.104 22:03, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Also, there's a lionguard npc with no disguise walkin' around. 76.6.79.104 22:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Halloween Henchmen

Is there a reason why Mad King's Guard(s) aren't listed as other allies? If you click them you can add them to your party as henchmen. I mean.. I know they suck but it still should go onto the page. 76.6.79.104 22:08, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Note on Daylight Saving Time change

If I'm correct, and I always am, at least the US and possibly other places will be switching their clocks at 02:00 local time on 01-Nov-2009. What this means moving from the international date line is that if your zone changes time at 02:00, your offset from ANet's PDT will change at that time. For example, in the Eastern time zone (GMT-5, currently UTC-4, changing to UTC-5) at 02:00 01-Nov (23:00 31-Oct PDT) the time will switch back to 01:00 while PDT will remain the same for the final appearance of Mad King Thorn, meaning the final appearance of Mad King Thorn for those in EDT/EST will be at 02:00 rather than 03:00. This will hold true for other time zones that fall back an hour, and could very well affect the local time of several of Mad King Thorn's appearances by one hour local time. Thought a quick heads-up would be a good thing! 74.40.135.18 14:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it happens pretty much every year. -- Wyn talk 14:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, daylight saving time shift pretty much happens every year for those areas that observe it, but the actual time change doesn't affect the local time of appearances of Mad King Thorn every year. Thought someone might want to update the time chart or the note on the main page so that people don't miss him because they're thinking he'll be there an hour later than he actually appears. Also, UTC <> GMT since GMT does the daylight saving time shift, so in the spring GMT is actually UTC+1, and when set back in the fall is equal to UTC. 74.40.135.18 15:35, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

GMT doesn't change - it's effectively the same as UTC all year round. I think you're mixing it up with BST. -- pling 15:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

With all due respect, perhaps updating the Greenwich Mean Time Wikipedia article would be in order then *wink* While I agree GMT doesn't change, GMT is not used during the summer if referring to times by nation-specific names such as GMT and BST as opposed to WET and WEST. There's plenty more for good reading, but here's a decent start:

"In the UK, GMT is the official time only during winter; during summer British Summer Time is used. GMT is substantially equivalent to Western European Time."

Before people insist on bogging this down with inaccurate semantics, the main issue here is that any time zone that switches before the Pacific time zone (currently UTC-7 and switching to UTC-8) will see the appearances of Mad King Thorn an hour earlier than they would expect if their time did not fall back. 74.40.135.18 16:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't the Mad King's Guards usually stand up 5-15 minutes before the event. The event time says it starts in just moments.. and they're still seated.. So.. if the timer wrong? 76.6.79.104 07:01, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

That's a No. xD 76.6.79.104 07:16, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Er yeah, I read that. I was referring to "UTC <> GMT since GMT does the daylight saving time shift, so in the spring GMT is actually UTC+1, and when set back in the fall is equal to UTC", which isn't true. Whether it's used or not, it's static, and it's the same as UTC. -- pling 14:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Item

Confirmed, lions arch, Charr Hat MrPaladin † talk 07:34, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

crud, it looks like anet fixed the time offset thing so you can't get both hats in one visit anymore. >:( 122.20.215.27 07:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Ryoko Yonekura

Yea, they fixed the time delay, but messed up his text :/ Karate Jesus 07:36, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

It's still got a delay. Left LA right after hat, got to Kamadon just as the event was starting.--Pyron Sy 07:37, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if it will be the same in Kamadan as the dialogue in LA said Elonians and that we were in Kamadan... and the dialogue in Kamadan says the same. And they didn't fix the timing for everyone, I'm hitting Kamadan right now :P damn edit conflict x3--Rainith 07:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

(a billion edit conflicts)Uh, no. I got charr hat. I'm waiting in kama to get the other mask right now, an event just started when the one in LA ended. personn5 07:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Woah, sorry, you're right. I just caught a district with a 16 minute delay :/ Karate Jesus 07:40, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, spoke too soon. i jumped from dist 49 to dist 26 and got in while MK was doing simon says. It's confirmed, i got both masks in 1 event ;) 122.20.215.27 07:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Ryoko Yonekura

From Asia Korea 2 to Europe En 68 - 30 min delay last time. Markus Clouser 15:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Part of that's the actual festival delay, and part of it is the HUGE gap in districts. Each district starts a little later than the previous ones. --Shinigami King 15:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

WHO DID THAT?!!!

To whomever put the banner at the top of the page with the countdown until MK's next arrival, A THOUSAND THANKS! I can't tell you how difficult it is trying to figure the event times living here in Japan! Honto ni domo alligator gozaimasu!!! 122.20.215.27 08:10, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Ryoko Yonekura

We do that for every finale event. -- Wyn talk 09:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Hrm? First I've noticed, I guess! 122.20.215.27 11:08, 31 October 2009 (UTC)Ryoko

Where's the party at boy

RIVERSIDE MF this is the best day ever!

Hat images

I would rather see screenshot images of the hats than the dat icons. -- Wyn talk 11:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

TWICE

TWICE. I just beat him TWICE.-- anguard 13:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

[1] -Auron 13:14, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Just sayin'.-- anguard 13:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I just beat him once. What's the reward you get? more ToT Bags? akka 13:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Who did you beat? >.>--Unendingfear 13:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

The Mad King, I beat him once. Lord Caeliat 14:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

You only get 1 extra ToT bag, Akka.-- anguard 14:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Finished festival times

Instead of deleting time periods for finished festivals, can we gray them out instead? - Decollete 14:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Time zones, again...

Ok, we have this discussion every frigging year, for each festival. We list PST because it's the time ArenaNet uses. We list UTC because it's a standar timezone that can be easily converted to any local timezone.

We don't list particular timezones because there are far more of those than required. And none here has more right to claim which ones are "important and relevant" to be listed than others. If you keep insisting on adding all of them, i will have to ask for adding CLST too, since i am too lazy to substract -3 to UTC.

And by the way, this is not wikipedia. If people doesn't know what is the difference between PST and PDT, that is not really something we should document. Heck, i don't live in america and i know the difference.--Fighterdoken 17:00, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Agreed with Fighterdoken here. We only document PST and UTC, the rest people have to work out for themselves. -- Salome 17:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I disagree; to my mind there is no harm in providing the information. --DryHumour 17:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

There is. There are far more timezones on the world that what we can document here. UTC works fine for reference purposes.--Fighterdoken 17:07, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

So revert the shit yourselves?-- anguard 17:09, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Afterall, there are at least 24 distinct timezones... Make a guideline for future timetabled events for future reference.Elephant 17:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

My opinion is still that a representative set doesn't really do any harm, but I'll abide by the apparent prior consensus. Nevertheless, the point Elephant makes is a good one. I presume that the reason this is discussed festival after festival is that there is no guideline for first-timers like myself. --DryHumour 17:21, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

it's worth noting that poke programmed a clock to appear next to the personal links (where the link to your user page, talk page contributions etc. are), which displays the time in UTC, so you can just check that clock and compare it to the time table :/. ~ PheNaxKian 17:33, 31 October 2009 17:33, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I've made a proposal to formalize this at GWWT:GF#Time Zones. --DryHumour 17:36, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

For I have come with The Light! Let us all be thankful for the 24 timezones that The Lord shared with us and let us all spread the Knowledge with those from The Philippines or GMT-5! Let us post on this unholy page on which we praise this Balthazar blasted so called Halloween ALL the little villages of the globe for every confused Wikipedia Believer! Let us spread The Light with everyone that cannot convert time with GMT! Let us help Marty McFly and Doc. Emmett Brown get their Halloween masks even though they're under the evil influence of the flux capacitor! ....sigh. Dude who made the timezone tables, don't be sad, they're good but not really needed. If they're really needed we should also make a platinum to ecto converter. Happy Halloween! Markus Clouser 17:41, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

(…but note that there are waaay more than 24 zones.) --DryHumour 17:45, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

DO NOT change the format of this table: lightgreen = a.m, lighblue = p.m, lightgray = "it was" (will change to white). this format used by any holiday before, so don't change the colors. --Itay Alon 17:56, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, good grief. I suggest updating GWWT:GF#Time Zones if that's another previously undocumented formatting requirement. --DryHumour 18:02, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh cool... we expect ppl to do the math to their timezones, but at the same time we _need_ different colors for am and pm because ppl are too dumb to figure it out by themselves? Interesting... Don't get me wrong though, im all for just listing PST and UTC but the thing is the new coloring actually made it more distinctable and at the same time looked waaay better. --87.183.8.36 02:13, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

+1. If it was used before it does not mean that it can't be changed into something better. Markus Clouser 10:31, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

But something that you think is better is worse for someone else... It's why we talk about things and don't change before we decide it's better. --Itay Alon 13:10, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

In all things on this wiki, we strive for consistency. The community that uses these pages for information get used to seeing things a certain way, and by staying consistent from one event to the next, we make that easiest for them. As has been noted by several people in this discussion, this is brought up during EVERY in game event where there is a scheduled finale, and the mass consensus is to use the two timezones that correlate to the game for the broadest section of the community. Pacific time, since that is what ArenaNet is based on and UTC (GMT) because that is the global time standard. Both of these time zones are listed by ArenaNet in announcements, both on the log in screen, and on their website. The addition of the UTC clock at the top of the wiki page should make it relatively easy for anyone viewing the schedule to calculate when events will happen in their timezone as it gives a point of reference, which is also why the UTC times on the schedule are listed in 24hr format. To help those members of the community that find it difficult to convert their timezone into one of the two standards, I have created Help:Timezone conversion chart. This page can be linked on each event page where a schedule is required. Will this possibly end this perpetual discussion? -- Wyn talk 13:57, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

I think that there is general agreement concerning the zones; I believe that posters in this sub-thread are debating the colour coding for AM/PM times. (See also GWWT:GF#Colors for further discussion.) For my part I feel that the colour coding is not entirely self-explanatory, and is redundant for time having either explicit AM/PM or in 24h format. A simple green/grey scheme is, to my mind, preferable. --DryHumour 17:02, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Just Wondering...

Can you leave your character in a district, and go afk during the appearance, and still get the mask? Please answer ASAP. MiniKold 21:03, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeh, just stand in the circle, you'll get your hat. Tidas 21:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Kk, thanks a bunch. MiniKold 21:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Relevant?

So I happened to be walking to the far storage in LA, when the ground started talking to me. I looked around the wiki, but I have yet to find any info about it. Am I blind, or what? Screenshots [2] & [3] if anyone is interested/cares. Sorry I got my name in it, but sometimes it just goes on and on about you... - Vik 04:47, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

i seem to remember some sort of buried tyrian or something like that a while back. may be something like that. Sonic Sunday 04:48, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Like I said, I only brought it up because I couldn't find any other info on it. If someone wants to take a pic without their char name in it, that's cool, too. - Vik 04:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

This is the famous buried corpse. Stand on it and dance. That'll get it real riled up :) 76.164.111.57 05:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

There's one (at least) in Kamadan, too, near the merchant near Churrhir Fields. Like the article says! -- FreedomBound 11:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Wrong end time again

ANet got the holiday timing wrong again. The last holiday was supposed to end on a Tuesday ("Event will last through 11:59 PM Pacific (-7 GMT) on Tuesday"), but ended Monday 12:01 am (Just after Sunday midnight). This one was supposed to end on the 2nd at 12:01 am (Monday just after Sunday midnight), but as of 1:59 pacific time, you could still turn in quest rewards and exchange items at the various collectors.   — Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 10:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Half of the stuff has finished, the other half hasn't. I've been round just now trying to hand in collector items (my bad for reading the wiki event calendar and not the official login, and thinking that midnight on the 2nd meant the midnight at the end of Monday rather than the end of Sunday/start of Monday) and only the ones in LA, Ascalon and Kamadan are still there. Drok's, Henge, Kodlonu, Champion's and Sunspear collectors have all gone, although the decorations are still up at Drok's.--Smarty 11:04, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

OTT Note on this year Pirate Day -> It was meant to finished on Midnight Monday, not Tuesday (Anet stuffed up announcement using last year's one). Batchie 11:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

And no spectactular end to the new quest chain. The threat of Dhumm, was just a threat apparently. I guess the barrier was never broken. And all is safe now lol..... It kinda leaves a WTF? on that one. Thanks for the try tho. Hopes something else happens. 71.85.106.56 16:12, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Maybe something will happen on Wintersday? ;] — Poki#3 (talk) 18:36, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

UW Content update. --RIDDLE 18:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Still disappointing. I think they just didn't finish the quests on time, hence the few days delay while they were finishing up quests 3 and 4, and couldn't get the followup into Halloween at all. Now they'll have to re-design the finale to fit into Wintersday instead, or god forbid, next Halloween. Oh well, I still enjoyed my 112 phantom tonics on top of stacks of other goodies. Rose Of Kali 13:17, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

added new quest :)

added new quest :)

Fail... Rose Of Kali 23:25, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

You have a real talent for being sore and disappointed, sir. | 72 {U|T|C} 00:01, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

It's maam. And Anet failed the quest chain, is still late, and is trying to make it up with an absurd quest reward. What do you think? Rose Of Kali 00:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

That you have a real talent for being sore and disappointed, ma'am. I am sure you know better than the Live team in every regard. | 72 {U|T|C} 00:34, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not what I know, it's what I see. And I asked your opinion on the quests being rather late for Halloween, not on mysef. Rose Of Kali 00:43, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Then I am sure you see better than them, and therefore have better/more knowledge. Anyway, my opinion on it is what I see: they didn't "fail" a created, implemented, and enjoyed quest line; they are no later than is currently required by the unforeseen difficulties that came up, and are thus as diligent as you or I would be in the same circumstances; and you have no proof that this wasn't the original quest reward, that the quest won't be so difficult as to merit it, or that 100 ToTs is even very high for a holiday during which you can farm 1 every 30-45 seconds or so. The opinion on yourself is just a bonus. | 72 {U|T|C} 01:24, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Anet really likes leaving people guessing about their intentions lately. Lately being quite a while now. Surprises are supposed to be pleasant, yet many recent update discussions are full of raised eyebrows and WTFs. People expect one thing based on hints and promises, and get another. What Anet knows or sees doesn't matter at all when the players don't understand it and get a cat in a bag. The game is for the people who play it, not people who make it. Also, personally discussing users on a wiki is frowned upon. Rose Of Kali 01:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, these "unforseen difficulties" are becoming more and more common. I know that Live Team is under-staffed, but now they seem to spend more and more time fixing post-release bugs. Maybe it's time to turn down the quantity and speed and turn up the quality? Rose Of Kali 01:59, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

If they turned down the speed, they'd be releasing one thing per year. The quality is just going to be bad no matter how much time they spend on it, since they have nobody testing the content. -Auron 02:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok, then get the Test Krewe stuff going before churning out new content like crazy and getting "mediocre" written all over themselves. Explaining what's going on (outside of obscure forum threads, preferably) also helps turn down the overwhelming WTFs. Rose Of Kali 02:12, 6 November 2009 (UTC)