Talk:Upcoming changes and features

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[edit] About this article

where do you get this information? and is this offical Sneaky Take a Bow

Please read the articles introduction. :) BigBlue 13:41, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

This would be better off as a fancy title to Category:Future feature there really is no need for an "unofficial" page like this. --Jamie

13:48, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

But where can you find such a summary of all upcoming features with commentary and references? Here can you even find smallest "announcements" such as the trade system improvement from Martin Kerstein (in only one sentence of a forum post!). No page here in this wiki would ever notice this! Or are you really interested in creating a whole article for a single sentence (=Category proposal)? I think this is a great portal to further informations about GW and its future. BigBlue 07:31, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] the right category? references?

there are a couple of things i really would like to see referenced, there is a dev update about the mesmer buffs, but where did the ranger buffs come from? I follow gaile talk alot, never seen her mention it (it could have slipped trough but i really try to read everything she says in every visit or forum dev update so it would seem strange if i missed it :) of course there is always the chance that the ranger buffs idea didnt come trough Gaile but some other reference...) There is also the fact category comming soon, did someone specify that these new PVE skills were comming in the next week? since the following category is 'the next couple of weeks' i see comming soon as 'this week' but i didn't see any reference as to when these PVE skills would come. Tough i see it beeing placed in the 'coming soon' area because Gaile said 'comming soon' here:Gaile/Frog_Talk/20070420. So i can see why its under that category, its just that i get a strange feeling when i see these categories, they are created to follow each other from very soon to somewhere in the future. yet those skills will probably be more like 'in the next couple of weeks' than 'this week'. - Saelfaer 09:51, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

See Gaile/Frog Talk/20070313 for Ranger (= Arc skills) and Mesmer buffs. The PvE skill was added to "Coming soon" 'cause Gaile says "coming soon" in Gaile/Frog Talk/20070420. But I'll move it to next couple of weeks. --BigBlue

talk 10:47, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

hm maybe thats why i didnt see it, what does arc stand for? arc skills ... arc isnt a class so i didnt see it as ranger skills when i read that... - Saelfaer 12:37, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

Arc = bow. :) --BigBlue

talk 13:09, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

lol i might not be the only one who didnt know that... i find it odd they use that terminology instead of just saying BOW :p - Saelfaer 19:00, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Trade Improvements?

The reference for trade improvements is way out of date, as it originates in January 2006. Thus, I do not believe it is appropriate to list Trade Improvements in the "Near Future" category. At the very least, the age of the quote should be acknowledged in the references section.

I believe they are still working on it. Observer mode lasted a very long time until it was implemented (6 months after the first community wish). And Martin couldn't meant party search for trade improvements as this was implemented in December 2006. --BigBlue

talk 13:27, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Martin could have meant party search. His post is from january 2006 (not january 2007) but I think I read it somewhere after that party search update that they still work on it. Have asked Martin, perhaps I get an answer to that. - MSorglos 13:39, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

2006? Ok, then it's my fault... But better ask him if he meant party search. --BigBlue

talk 14:08, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Gaile in a chat log or forum post (don't remember which) had said that party search was not the long-stated-as-coming trade improvement.--71.240.16.47 22:08, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

Got answer from Martin. "Dazu habe ich in dem entsprechenden GWOnline Thread bereits was geschrieben - Ist interessant, ein Zitat von mir zu finden, dass über ein Jahr alt ist und ohne Zusammenhang verwendet wird"

Basically, what he writes in english is that he has wrote something in the corresponding GWOnline-Thread and that it is interesting to find a quote from him, which is more than one year old an token out of context.

I don't know what he stated in GWOnline, perhaps somebody could link this thread here? That old quote should be no longer considered, the thread where his post was found was about spamming in local and trade chat. And the first part of his post was (basically, see original for german version)"there is a trade channel, but we cannot force players to use it"... and the developer work on improvements to minimize spam. - MSorglos 07:32, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

I deleted the discussed parts of the article. It was my fault, I oversight "2006" :( --BigBlue

talk 07:43, 26 April 2007 (EDT)

Can anyone confirm that accounts are suspended? My original impression is that the chat was blocked. Suspension would be quite an extreme measure. I do have one idea for an in game auction haus- make a new outpost or something in the battle isles. -Elviondale 18:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GW:EN Release Date

According to the Gaile News, the release date for GW:EN is 3rd quarter 2007, not 4th. I have reverted the change someone made to 4th, as that is not the latest official word. ~ Kailianna Firesoul 11:53, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Note that, on most websites for gamestores, the release date, for North America is somewhere around the beginning of August. But then again, I remember the release date for Nightfall was way off also. Never can tell =) — BlackGeneralImage:Blackgeneralstar.png 22:13, 11 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Inscribable armor to Near Future?

I would move this to near future, assuming that this will be changed in a (big) update before the release of GWEN.... --BigBlue talk 05:12, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

No, I'm pretty sure its going to come with GW:EN... — BlackGeneralImage:Blackgeneralstar.png 06:59, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Let's wait for new Gaile and Dev talks, until that we'll leave it under future, ok? --BigBlue

talk 07:59, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Sounds fair =P ~ BlackGeneral Image:Blackgeneralstar.png 08:04, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] New PvE skills based on Sunspear rank

Made changes to the article reflecting the recent developments. --Amon 12:15, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

Outdated discussion below

Gayle just recently wrote on a GURU forum thread the following: "Ok, so what's new on Sunspear Skills? I'll ask James, but I thought that was answered a while ago and didn't he say that they were coming with GW:EN, that they were the PVE-only skills? (...) I'm not sure if that's the case, so let me check on that and get back to you."

--Amon 14:56, 18 May 2007 (EDT)--

Hrm, I would find that weird seeing as it would severely impact the player experience for characters that haven't played Nightfall. If you come from Prophecies or Factions you won't have any Sunspear rank yet, so straight away you're at a disadvantage. Eerie Moss 11:25, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Yes, that would be strange. Possibly it's more like Sunspear skills will arrive in Nightfall at the same time as GW:EN expansion. Anyway, it's better to sit on this and wait and see. :)--Amon 11:55, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

It would be nice if you had not pulled it horribly out of context: ", now that I've stopped laughing about the above and have given it another thought, I'm not sure if that's the case, so let me check on that and get back to you." So how about we wait to hear what she says. I am a bit surprised though that she was surprised because for the past month Sunspear PvE skills have been on the front page of many a forum. --Ravious 12:27, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

It is true that I didn't read the text thoroughly and got carried away by surprise and by subsequent posts from that thread. Live and learn... Since I started this, I made hopefully appropriate changes to this topic of discussion.--Amon 14:38, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

[edit] Mesmer Buffs

Oh where oh where are the mesmer buffs. 68.229.134.95 23:39, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

The Mesmer buffs are in here. [1] Thanks Pandora ;) -- Image:Blackgeneralstar.png (General | Talk) 23:49, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

I've changed the page because the buffs were made at the Thursday June 7 Game update: Berekän 05:35, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the update only changed the descriptions, not the actual effects. At least we got a preview. -- Gordon Ecker 05:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

That was weak. 24.254.58.190 06:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent changes

I deleted recent changes, because latest updates can be seen in the Game updates sections. Here's the deleted text:

  ==Recently changed==
  Friday March 30 Game update:
  * Heroes' Ascent groupsize setting to 8
  Friday April 5 Game update:
  * Pet Control panel
  * Addition of the Warrior ascended Gladiator's armor helm
  * Changing Razah's Finding a Purpose quest for easier acquisition of this hero
  * Xunlai change (expanded storage)
  Thursday April 19 Game update
  * Hard mode added
  * Skill Hunter title split
  Automated Tournaments ¹
  
  Thursday May 24 Game update:
  * PvP skin rewards for Automated Tournaments
  * Birthday Gifts 
  Thursday June 7 Game update:

--BigBlue talk 16:35, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

I think we should keep recent changes here for about a month after they're implemented. -- Gordon Ecker 01:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

I disagree as this article's purpose is "Upcoming Changes and Features" this in no way relays that by reading this page you should or will see past or most recent updates. While I can support a reference to when something that had been listed was published, update notes should not be found here. A simple (furture example) New Sunspear skills were added June 17th, or something of the effect for the updates listed in the section that are to be coming to fruition soon makes sense. Update notes should be found on thier corresponding page, not this one. 66.35.166.102 14:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

It is useful to see upcoming as well as recent changes at-a-glance. I propose that instead of deleting recent changes from this article, that this article be renamed "Recent and upcoming changes and features. Alaris 17:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Alaris. --

Tudy 07:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Melandru's Resilience

Happiness beyound mortal words....I'm even more unstoppable...*sniffs* Fare thee well Luxons. It's been fun, but Kurzicks win now. (see profile for further explaination) --Ryudo 07:46, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I doubt this comment has anything to do with this article. To bad we can't delete those senseless posts on talk pages. --BigBlue

talk 08:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Why would you even want to... Just because you find a note pointless doesn't mean everyone else do. - anja

(contribs) 09:27, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, Melandru's Resilience is never mentionend in this article nor talk page (and I checked this before answering his comment), I think it's just a pointer for Ryudo's user page, but you can fill me in what he meant with Luxon and Kurzicks, especially for upcoming features :) --BigBlue

talk 09:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Melandru's Resilience is in the coming update (upcoming changes). Ryudo loves melandru's resilience, and is Kurzick, so now he will win more often over the luxons with it. The logic is quite simple ;) - anja

(contribs) 09:54, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Shame on me. I beg your pardon. :) --BigBlue

talk 10:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] SMS

Can anyone explain to me what is meant with this feature/service? You will be able to pay E40,- for a campaign through text messaging? :| 84.87.168.39 12:00, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyone? 84.87.168.39 09:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

No idea really, but I guess it does what it says: You send an SMS, $$$ gets deducted from your mobile phone account, you get the game code. --Xeeron 10:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

It works like Xeeron states. Perhaps this (or german) could help to explain. One big problem with premium sms is that maximum value to be paid with that depends on the country you life in. - MSorglos (talk|contrib) 19:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I know what SMS is, mobile phones are something hard to place out of today's live. It just seemed unlikely to me you could be able to pay 40 euro's for a game through text messaging. PayPal plox tbh. 84.87.168.39 19:36, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

For a campaign, probably not. In the UK at least, IIRC the maximum charge for something like this is less than £10. So I doubt if we'll be able to pay for GW:EN by SMS, but it might be an option for smaller value items such as character slots and mission packs. Cynical 14:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

And when Anet will give this option for us. I want spand some money in in-game store before mission pack. And one more question, sms payment will be able in Poland? Wrzosek

Don't know and don't know. -- ab.er.rant

05:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Then mayby someone from Anet could answer? Soon... ech..

Wrzosek 11:38, 17.09.2007 (GMT+1)

I ask one more time, sms payment will be sooner then mission pack? if not then sms paymant is pointless.. 83.26.112.73 22:36, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Preview Weekend Event

Should the preview event weekend for gw:en be added to coming soon, with a small note reminding people that you need the prerelease pack for access? --Gummy Joe 19:05, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I think this article is for game changes only, like big updates, areas to be added, changes to be made and features to be added. The Sneek Peek Weekend would be more something to be noticed at the Events section imo. 84.87.168.39 22:52, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Official wiki in languages other than English

This is planned in the near future for more than 3 months. Any news on that? Is this discussed somewhere on the wiki? Chriskang 08:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it's being discussed anywhere. It was something that was mentioned when this wiki was being set up. There has been questions asked about this before but there's no definite news on it yet I think. -- ab.er.rant

08:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I moved it to "Future". As you see ingame (Help panel "Community (Beta)") there are undated plans to support other languages. BigBlue

talk 09:07, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Miniature linking to account instead of character

Read Gaile/Frog_Talk/20070830, question is will it also allow unlinking the ones already linked from character to be switched to account? --Phoenix Image:Phoenix-sig.png 04:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Last I heard, if such a change was made they would make it retroactive. So those already linked to characters would be linked to accounts instead. Alaris 14:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comming soon vs near future

Can someone enlighten me what the difference between those two categories is, i.e. why not merge them? --Xeeron 15:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Imho: Coming soon up to 4 weeks, near future 4 weeks to 3 months, futur > 3 months BigBlue

talk 15:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

I don't think we should include speculative timeframes. If we have an official date or timeframe, we should list it for the individual entry. -- Gordon Ecker 08:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I think we can make estimations (as described unter the notice) based on our experiences with ANet over the two years. BigBlue

talk 09:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

But I don't think we should mix facts and speculation. -- Gordon Ecker 09:18, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

The problem with estimations is that they can be wrong. See how the glad title changes went directly from near future to implemented, skipping the comming soon. I would be more happy about a structure that divides items for which we have a date from Anet and item for which we only know that they will come eventually, but no date. --Xeeron 11:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Agreed, except that we usually don't have a date. It'll come when it's ready. So I think the current system works better in this case. Alaris 16:58, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] /report

i am guessing this got removed becuase it got floded...--The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:75.165.112.222 .

I'm pretty sure this was a test period for it, much in the same way balance changes are put in for a test first. -

HeWhoIsPale 19:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GW:EN Hard Mode

Removed gwen hard mode from the list as we have it now :) FirstSunspear 18:33, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Halloween 2007

Removed Halloween from the coming soon as its started already. FirstSunspear 07:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ladder Reset?

ooooo, I like the sound of this... it would be more seasonal, more competive, and gives other a chance to climb the ladder. I think this would be a good thing for Guild Wars GvG. SabreWolf 14:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Next balance update

"I'm working on Next balance update, so I'll be checking out the forums."[2] Dated 10/31/07. There is no hard date listed for the update, but I feel this should be at least in the "fairly soon" section since it appears that he is indeed working on the next update. - HeWhoIsPale 15:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

As I said in my edit summary, I'd assume Izzy is always working on the next update and there is always an update coming in the future. I'd prefer to not list that, since it obvious, until we have a definite date/week. We're just building up a hype about something we know nothing about. - anja

15:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

He just usually doesn't state that he's doing the update process that far ahead of the update. I concede to your point however. "Upcoming change: Balance update" is much like saying "upcoming change: Players will kill some monsters". -

HeWhoIsPale 15:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd thought the skill balance comment was posted after last week's Gaile Talk. Has there been anything posted anywhere to the contrary? If not, I'd suggest that's enough for the skill update note to be put back. --Winters Blessing

15:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware of that, I had just reverted the removal of the note and added a citation since I remembered Izzy say he was working on a balance update a little bit back. -

HeWhoIsPale 15:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh, that would change things. Do we have a screenshot of that comment/log? It's very easy to read more in than you should during those visits, so it would be great with a screenshot. Just to not cause a hype over nothing. :) - anja

15:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Alas no, I wasn't there myself - just going by what was on the Gaile Talk page. Checked over on incgamers too, but there is only the same summary posted, no actual screens unfortunately. Maybe some other forums have copies somewhere, but I rarely venture outside incgamers myself :) --Winters Blessing

16:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

GWOnline used to have all summaries a long time ago. Don't know if that's still true. --

(gem / talk) 16:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

GWOnline = Incgamers. :) They don't have all the logs anymore, but usually summaries. Still a summary here is as much worth as a summary there, I'd say. It can still be misinterpreted :) - anja

16:23, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh. --

(gem / talk) 17:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Gaile log: [3] and [4]. Somebody should use ocr and put it on Gaile/Frog Talk/20071031... We've been lazy a long time on the Gaile talk section of this wiki... BigBlue

talk 17:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Direct quote from the logs: "Gaile Gray: I believe there may be a skill balance in a couple of weeks". This is, imo, NOT enough confirmation/information to justify a note here. It's as likely to happen soon as in several months judging from that statement. - anja

18:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

So, move Balance update to "near future"? BigBlue

talk 19:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd prefer not listing it at all, for the reason(s) stated above - anja

19:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the link.... and to the person who initially reverted it, a citation is a source of quotation, which doesn't need to be verbal... (Terra Xin 02:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC))

Finally, there is a balance update. I think we can trust Gaile more than we initially thought. BigBlue

talk 08:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes we can. But the point that we shouldn't engage in revert wars over balance updates remains. I vote that, given updates are common anyway, they should not be listed unless they contain some highly unusual update, e.g. Sorrow's furnace. Alaris 14:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Agree with Alaris, good point. - anja

15:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

An update on the level of sorrows furnace will likely never happen again. Things like tournament house being added, new maps for arenas, significant changes to arenas and the anti-leeching/leaving changes are big enough to be put here. This is about informing people of what's to come, people get upset about leaching, they see here there is anti-leeching system comeing soon, they will probably feel a little better knowing something will be done about it. 58.110.136.235 06:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

A free update ~~on the level of~~ the size of Sorrow's Furnace will likely never happen again, but I suspect that they might sell some kind of content pack through the in-game store if they get enough positive feedback from the bonus mission pack. I doubt that there won't be any major content updates between now and the Guild Wars 2 beta. -- Gordon Ecker 08:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

To clarify my earlier post: I didn't mean to say that they will update Sorrow's Furnace. I meant to say that Sorrow's Furnace *was* an update worthy of mention. So was hard mode, for example. Skill balance changes will happen regularly for a long time still. Alaris 15:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Weird, an update on the level of sorrow furnace is going to happen actually... today. And it is conditionally "free". Coran Ironclaw 22:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vista Certification

I believe this has already been addressed and completed. My EotN box says Vista as one of the OS's for the specs. Also, the PlayNC support site states that Vista is one of the operating systems that Guild Wars can run on. Lastly, my Vista computer runs Guild Wars just as well as my previous computer ran it in XP. I'm going to remove the Vista Certification as one of the upcoming features. If I'm in error, please correct me. --Alreajk

While you may be correct, "official" Vista certification is something that Microsoft does to show that a product is 100% compatible. I've been playing on Vista since it was first released and have had no issues at all, but that doesn't mean that it has passed the "official" certification guidelines set up by Microsoft. All that said, I don't see a need to add it back to the page although I'm commenting here in case anyone else comes along that wants to know or has a more definite source on the certification. 75.143.98.194 01:31, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Ohhh, I see. You learn something new every day. The fact that Guild Wars runs on Vista according to ArenaNet (as well as NCSoft and users) is enough anyone needs to know about on a Guild Wars website. --Alreajk

Vista won't get certification till a driver can decode the new sound system to the old one (3d sound missing) Dominator Matrix 21:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New Skins

It's on guru, i can't remember where but gaile's mentioned several times that several Design A Weapon Contest winning idea's are going to be added into the game shortly after Wintersdays Finale. I'll try find the link 195.7.246.91 12:06, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Shortly after... Heeeey, 3 months is good enough I guess.68.119.89.223 01:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No More Upcoming?

man, its been a while since there was something i was looking forward to, like a major update maybe? (ex. the glad title update).. except for the GW2 beta, but thats in the summer.... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:70.129.165.207 (talk).

I thought the beta wasn't until fall or winter. -- Gordon Ecker 05:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

wow... okay, even worse... --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:70.129.165.207 (talk).

It is coming on the 2nd half of 2008 hopefully 19:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

It will most likely be late winter '08 or early winter '09, but we'll see. --Lou-Saydus

16:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, they do plan on adding more weapons to the Hall of Monuments. You guys could put that there (Though Regina said she didn't have an ETA). 145.94.74.23 07:59, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New paying options

Any news? This has been announced quite a while ago and its still not there. I'm realy looking forward to purchase a few character slot and the bonus mission pack. SniperFox 21:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

None at all there keeping silent Dominator Matrix 21:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] New paying options falsely removed?

I dont quite see the payment update in the ingame store over here LazloW 17:09, 15 April 2008 (GMT+1)

No, not falsely removed, it is now possible to buy anything (apart from the BMP) in the Guild Wars upgrades section by phone, at least it is in the UK, I dont have any info about any other countries. -

FirstSunspear /// Talk 16:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

It wasn't the the option of products though, it was the options of payment. Where as in the Benelux (or anywhere else in Europe, aprt from Britain, I don't know) you can still not pay in any other way than with a Credit Card. I.E., in Britain you can pay with something as simple as Maestro. And weren't SMS payments considered too? I don't know, never saw a source myself. BlazeRick 19:04, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

It is possible to pay by SMS for the 1 million edition upgrade which costs £5, or £4 if you call an 0906 number. Everything else that has the surfpin payment option costs £7.50 by calling the number. I'm not sure about in any other countries, and none of the campaigns or the BMP can be paid for by phone. -

FirstSunspear /// Talk 19:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Not all new paying options have been added for all countries. That is still in process, if you read the different language sites. Mith

Talk 20:45, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I will add a notice about further paying options in more countries. -

FirstSunspear /// Talk 09:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Removing time divisions

I'm removing the time-related categories. They serve no purpose if the information supplied does not have a specific time of release. The phrase "coming soon" from a source should not be used as a reference for a features release. Instead, this page should just list the current upcominc changes and features, with the source and only if stated, an estimated time of release. This page is listed as a link on the main page, so if anyone disagrees they should use this talk page when my changes are reverted. :) (Terra Xin 03:07, 29 May 2008 (UTC))

A wiki page without any sections looks ugly though... — Poki#3

10:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I agree, Poki. /votefor revert BigBlue

talk 16:05, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

The page does look quite bland and empty without sections. -- ab.er.rant

03:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I still don't agree with sections based on time, but how about dividing it by type, like this - Balance Updates / In-Game Features / Other Features / Upcoming Releases? (Terra Xin)

That sounds like a good idea. -- ab.er.rant

14:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

thats hella-better now--

Raph Talky 02:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah much better :D

FirstSunspear /// Talk 15:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

And with sections makes more sense to leave 'empty' ones. Mith

Talk 15:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

We should then say about how far away each new change is going to be. --Alreajk --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:69.123.211.67 (talk).

We do if we know. -- ab.er.rant

02:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GW2 Beta date

Can I see where the Q3 came from? — Poki#3 10:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

DominatorMatrix's imagination? --Aspectacle 00:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Not sure where Q3 came from, but 2nd half of '08 has been bandied about.

"GSUK: Can you tell us anything about Guild Wars 2?

JS: I can't really tell you anything new right now. We talked a lot about Guild Wars earlier this spring in terms of look and features. But since then it goes without saying that we've been very focused on getting the expansion wrapped up. Guild Wars 2 will be available in some kind of beta or public event in the second half of next year. "

- [5] 66.207.82.65 09:56, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

That would be correct, and due to rate of development...a more accurate est. Dominator Matrix 09:58, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it was mentioned today that beta is being pushed back closer to release date, aka 2009. -elviondale (tahlk) 04:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought I saw the same thing, saying beta was pushed back until sometime in '09. I can't find where it is, though. Ironically, I read that a day or 2 after I made the quoted post about 2nd half of '08. Peter Acid Eater 20:10, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll add a note and reference. The beta test will be highly expected amongst the players, so it's better to use only the info that we have until we get an official date released. It'll kill our expectations, but at least then we wont be disappointed should anet decide to push it back further. I personally wish that this year was 2010 right now. :) (Terra Xin 10:29, 6 July 2008 (UTC))

[edit] The balance update link

that cant be right. I think someone changed it along the line, as that update has already been done.--Raph Talky 14:05, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It's a reference to the introduction of said update, in which it was mentioned that "Although we are not making major PvE-related balance changes this time, we are working on a larger PvE-focused update". Erasculio 16:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

hmmm..alright--Raph Talky 21:59, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

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