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[edit] Nicholas the Traveler's travels
Is Nicholas broken? He's been stuck in the Prophecies campaign for five weeks in a row now. -- FreedomBound
18:00, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- Prophecies is a BIG place.... -- Wyn
talk 18:07, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- True, just seems odd that thus far (excluding the EotN 3 hour tour) he's been in Prophecies 12 times, EotN 3 times, Factions 5 times, and Nightfall 5 times. Seems like even if they did want to have him be in Prophecies more often, it doesn't have to be 5 weeks in a row. -- FreedomBound
18:23, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- He would be broken if he stayed in exact same spot for more than a week. He's moving every week so it's all fine. The list of his locations may be generated randomly like the Z-Quests or ordered by the devs manually, we don't know. But if it's random it's entirely possible to be 5x in a row in one continent, especially Prophecies which is so big.--Yawg
17:39, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- No Freedom, Nicholas is not broken. I checked with him this morning though, just to be sure, and he tells me that he has been arriving precisely where and when he means to. Now with that said, he had also mentioned a surprising number of fellow travelers taking issue with how long he has been hanging around in a particular area, as if he were somehow inconveniencing them by just being where he wanted to be!!! ...but for their sake he said he'd probably try to hasten his travels away from his homeland sooner rather than later to shake things up a bit. He did go on to mention though, just as Yawg and Wyn did, that there is a lot more that he has yet to explore there, so don't expect his stints there to always be short ones. :) [John Hargrove]
talk 19:37, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks John! I was just worried that he might have lost his passport, or needed funds for the trip! Glad to hear that he's ok (and that he'll be traveling again soon)! -- FreedomBound
19:41, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, he's doing just fine. Thanks for voicing your concern!!! :) -- [John Hargrove]
talk 19:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, he's doing just fine. Thanks for voicing your concern!!! :) -- [John Hargrove]
- Thanks John! I was just worried that he might have lost his passport, or needed funds for the trip! Glad to hear that he's ok (and that he'll be traveling again soon)! -- FreedomBound
- No Freedom, Nicholas is not broken. I checked with him this morning though, just to be sure, and he tells me that he has been arriving precisely where and when he means to. Now with that said, he had also mentioned a surprising number of fellow travelers taking issue with how long he has been hanging around in a particular area, as if he were somehow inconveniencing them by just being where he wanted to be!!! ...but for their sake he said he'd probably try to hasten his travels away from his homeland sooner rather than later to shake things up a bit. He did go on to mention though, just as Yawg and Wyn did, that there is a lot more that he has yet to explore there, so don't expect his stints there to always be short ones. :) [John Hargrove]
- He would be broken if he stayed in exact same spot for more than a week. He's moving every week so it's all fine. The list of his locations may be generated randomly like the Z-Quests or ordered by the devs manually, we don't know. But if it's random it's entirely possible to be 5x in a row in one continent, especially Prophecies which is so big.--Yawg
- True, just seems odd that thus far (excluding the EotN 3 hour tour) he's been in Prophecies 12 times, EotN 3 times, Factions 5 times, and Nightfall 5 times. Seems like even if they did want to have him be in Prophecies more often, it doesn't have to be 5 weeks in a row. -- FreedomBound
[edit] Nicholas is a popular man!
He's broken into the top 20 most popular pages! Does he have a statement about his meteoric rise to fame? -- FreedomBound
19:41, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I'm guessin it would be, "I give phat lootz!" --adrin
20:07, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Nicholas isn't actually aware of the existence of the wiki unfortunately, and I didn't want to break his immersion in the world by explaining the whole concept of it to him, so no quote can be given by him on that... For me personally though, I am quite happy to see that it looks like he'll be taking over "S" Words for #18 this week!!! I wonder if he'll have what it takes to get to #2. <(o_O)> [John Hargrove]
talk 23:54, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
- Whoo, #17! Take that all non-Dolyak animal companions! :P~ [John Hargrove]
talk 22:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- He looks poised and ready to get himself some titles. GWAMM anyone? — Jon
Lupen 14:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
- #16! -- FreedomBound
00:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- He's more popular than the title page! Amazing! Katherinezoltin 04:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- #16! -- FreedomBound
- He looks poised and ready to get himself some titles. GWAMM anyone? — Jon
- Whoo, #17! Take that all non-Dolyak animal companions! :P~ [John Hargrove]
- Nicholas isn't actually aware of the existence of the wiki unfortunately, and I didn't want to break his immersion in the world by explaining the whole concept of it to him, so no quote can be given by him on that... For me personally though, I am quite happy to see that it looks like he'll be taking over "S" Words for #18 this week!!! I wonder if he'll have what it takes to get to #2. <(o_O)> [John Hargrove]
[edit] Nick's locations and the release time for GW2
I should put this post with a warning that I started thinking in the middle of the night and this probably makes no sense but I was thinking about how someone mentioned (probably you as Nick is your brain child) that Nick has currently enough preplanned locations till about end of 2010ish. Does this correspond in any way to about when GW2 will be done? I was thinking that you just planned out about enough locations to keep people busy till GW2 got into beta testing as a little distraction. Is this true or should I stop thinking about Anet secret plans and plots at about 11:30pm? Katherinezoltin 05:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- I imagine they are aiming for 2010, so they figured enough locations to last until about that time will be good enough, as they could always add more at a later date if need be. But then again, I'm just theory-crafting. — Jon
Lupen 14:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
- GW2 was not a factor in any decisions made about Nicholas. Now, read it again, but this time say it out loud to make sure it sinks in (because I could get in a lot of trouble if anyone leaves my talk page with the wrong impression!): "GW2 was not a factor in any decisions made about Nicholas." ... okay, seriously though, I just wanted Nicholas (aka "Project Wumpus") to be a lot of fun, and a big part of that was the feeling that he could appear almost anywhere in the entire world. In order to do that we obviously needed to give him a lot of locations, and so we did. His list of possible haunts at launch was 137, and given 1 a week, that's 137 weeks (or ~2.6 years) of Nicholas' travels before he even considers going to the same place twice. I believe that will keep him moving around until close to the end of 2011, but that date won't mean anything except that we ran out of sensible new places for Nicholas to travel to. The worst case scenario at that time is that he starts doubling up on the same stomping grounds after 2.6 years of unique locations, and that's not so bad for the worst case. I'm just glad to know that he'll always be somewhere out there. (...beneath the pale moonliiiiight!) :) - [John Hargrove]
talk 03:10, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- So what you're saying is you confirm that GW2 will be released November 2011?
- Kidding! Just kidding. ;) GW2's release has no bearing on or relation to Nick, I got it. - Tanetris 03:32, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- I thought my brain was thinking too far into this, thanks for unconfirming my ideas. Now, onto trying to figure out why the Mad King Stewart has reappeared as Linsey said something about a plan. Methinks there is something rotten in the state of the Underworld... Katherinezoltin 05:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yup yup, I'm always happy to clear the air! -> thanks for stopping by my little talk page everybody! :) - [John Hargrove]
talk 22:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- You kidding? You know I like you, btw, in the list of things Linsey has answered today that were put into a seperate wiki page, she mentions we should poke John Hargrove about what possible GW2 things we will get for HOM completeing. So therefore, *pokes John repeatedly till he spills* ^^" Katherinezoltin 22:53, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- *poke* *poke* :) — Jon
Lupen 22:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- poke | talk 23:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think it would be a good idea for us to know what the titles and other stuff get us in GW2, that way it gives players more of an idea what they want to get in GW for GW2 instead of just trying to get everything they can and have more of a choice for what to aim for. Simzy
23:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Regardless of what Linsey said about poking John about this, I would not expect any details regarding GW2 ANYTHING as it could easily cost him his job as a violation of his NDA. If you want to aim for something, aim high and go for it ALL. -- Wyn
talk 23:18, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Mine was more of a personal opinion, i know how much trouble violating an NDA can cause someone as ive signed several myself, also im pretty sure that if he did tell us anything that he wasnt given the all clear about it would be removed from the pages pretty quickly. Simzy
00:05, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- By Grenth's cold hands Wyn, Im not that thick to assume he'd spill everything. I just thought I'd see what I get if I asked him. Besides, I can blame Linsey, she told us to ask John. ^^" Katherinezoltin 02:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I told Linsey she was throwing me under the bus by posting that! XD [John Hargrove]
talk 19:38, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Curious. Does "Project Wumpus" and anything to do with GM Wumpus? --adrin
19:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Curious. Does "Project Wumpus" and anything to do with GM Wumpus? --adrin
- I told Linsey she was throwing me under the bus by posting that! XD [John Hargrove]
- By Grenth's cold hands Wyn, Im not that thick to assume he'd spill everything. I just thought I'd see what I get if I asked him. Besides, I can blame Linsey, she told us to ask John. ^^" Katherinezoltin 02:40, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Mine was more of a personal opinion, i know how much trouble violating an NDA can cause someone as ive signed several myself, also im pretty sure that if he did tell us anything that he wasnt given the all clear about it would be removed from the pages pretty quickly. Simzy
- Regardless of what Linsey said about poking John about this, I would not expect any details regarding GW2 ANYTHING as it could easily cost him his job as a violation of his NDA. If you want to aim for something, aim high and go for it ALL. -- Wyn
- I think it would be a good idea for us to know what the titles and other stuff get us in GW2, that way it gives players more of an idea what they want to get in GW for GW2 instead of just trying to get everything they can and have more of a choice for what to aim for. Simzy
- poke | talk 23:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yup yup, I'm always happy to clear the air! -> thanks for stopping by my little talk page everybody! :) - [John Hargrove]
- I thought my brain was thinking too far into this, thanks for unconfirming my ideas. Now, onto trying to figure out why the Mad King Stewart has reappeared as Linsey said something about a plan. Methinks there is something rotten in the state of the Underworld... Katherinezoltin 05:37, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
- GW2 was not a factor in any decisions made about Nicholas. Now, read it again, but this time say it out loud to make sure it sinks in (because I could get in a lot of trouble if anyone leaves my talk page with the wrong impression!): "GW2 was not a factor in any decisions made about Nicholas." ... okay, seriously though, I just wanted Nicholas (aka "Project Wumpus") to be a lot of fun, and a big part of that was the feeling that he could appear almost anywhere in the entire world. In order to do that we obviously needed to give him a lot of locations, and so we did. His list of possible haunts at launch was 137, and given 1 a week, that's 137 weeks (or ~2.6 years) of Nicholas' travels before he even considers going to the same place twice. I believe that will keep him moving around until close to the end of 2011, but that date won't mean anything except that we ran out of sensible new places for Nicholas to travel to. The worst case scenario at that time is that he starts doubling up on the same stomping grounds after 2.6 years of unique locations, and that's not so bad for the worst case. I'm just glad to know that he'll always be somewhere out there. (...beneath the pale moonliiiiight!) :) - [John Hargrove]
- (reset indent) according to a friend of mine, its a Magic: The Gathering reference. Then again, I'd estimate a quarter to half of the stuff in GW is a Magic: The Gathering reference in some way. *points to Codex* Katherinezoltin 22:22, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- A Codex is also a Warhammer 40,000 Text, which I believe predates Magic. — Jon
Lupen 22:27, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- I ment the idea of a sealed deck tournament. I hear that's used for Magic tournaments sometimes, I dunno, I get chastized by my Magic friends because I love goblins. ^^" Katherinezoltin 22:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- Limited play is everywhere, but if I remember correctly, Linsey did say she got the idea from Magic, or something along those lines, so you could be correct. — Jon
Lupen 22:51, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- You guys all need a little lesson in classic gaming apparently. That reference goes back to 1972. :) - [John Hargrove]
talk 02:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Already got ya covered, John. See? Karate
Jesus 02:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Good man. Thanks KJ! ...and on an unrelated note, apparently the original creator of Hunt the Wumpus underwent neurosuspension!!! That's crazy!~ [John Hargrove]
talk 02:37, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Weird. Well...I guess if we ever decide we want "Hunt the Wumpus 2: the Revenge of the Fallen Wumpus", we can just clone him. Karate
Jesus 02:45, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- John, not to make you feel old (though I have a talent for it), but that was 17 years before my time. ^^" But interesting back story and don't tell Konig about the brain in a jar, he just might go hunt it down. Katherinezoltin 04:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I'll be honest... I've never actually played it. It has me beat by about 10 years. I just know of it by reputation! [John Hargrove]
talk 00:24, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- So, about that HOM in GW2...*grins evily* Just messing with you, I know some people really want to know if its worthwhile to hunt down every itty bitty HOM thing just to get some useless thing in GW2. Then again, I bet these are the same people who think GW2 will come out in 6 months. (no offense to those who believe this, I just think its more likely for a late 2011-early 2012 release.) Katherinezoltin 07:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Go go gadget theory crafting. I get the feeling GW2 HoM rewards will be based on whether or not specific monuments are full, not so much what you filled them with or how overfilled they are, KoaBD track aside. — Jon
Lupen 15:10, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well I'm not going to spill any info on the HoM unless it is first posted on our website and/or by our community team, but just know that I will be holding the rewards to a pretty high standard given that I am probably the person at the office that will be the most personally affected by it since I *believe* I may be the only Anet employee with GWAMM. Hopefully that makes me a pretty good gauge for the rewards since I've pretty much done it all, and for that reason I can weigh them versus the amount of effort it took pretty well. [John Hargrove]
talk 00:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- You do (at least I'm pretty sure you do) have access to all the data, or at least know some people who do; I'm sure you could confirm your theory. :) — Jon
Lupen 01:04, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- John, that just means I need to become the second if I end up an employee. :P Though Konig would most likely beat me too it, I've been too busy handling pets for the Menagerie. It's as addictive as Pokemon. >.>" Katherinezoltin 03:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Gotta catch 'em all! Menagerimon! [John Hargrove]
talk 18:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- LOL XP Katherinezoltin 23:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Talking aboug HOM... it doesn't really matter for me what we'll get in GW2, I'm much more interested in whether you have finally decided upon what HOM unlocks will count for getting something and if you can maybe share us some info about that. Things like whether there are certain specific unlocks that grant something in GW2, hidden among lots of 'duds' (meaningless unlocks) or maybe the monuments are all about the number of unlocks on them so for example every armor set unlocked is treated equal, just a +1? Same with others? We can add lots of stuff to the HoM but do they all count or there's some point where you're going over the top and adding more gives you nothing in return, like for example dedicating 21th minipet? Currently we know very little about how the HoM really works so any hints would be good.--Yawg
01:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Talking aboug HOM... it doesn't really matter for me what we'll get in GW2, I'm much more interested in whether you have finally decided upon what HOM unlocks will count for getting something and if you can maybe share us some info about that. Things like whether there are certain specific unlocks that grant something in GW2, hidden among lots of 'duds' (meaningless unlocks) or maybe the monuments are all about the number of unlocks on them so for example every armor set unlocked is treated equal, just a +1? Same with others? We can add lots of stuff to the HoM but do they all count or there's some point where you're going over the top and adding more gives you nothing in return, like for example dedicating 21th minipet? Currently we know very little about how the HoM really works so any hints would be good.--Yawg
- LOL XP Katherinezoltin 23:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- Gotta catch 'em all! Menagerimon! [John Hargrove]
- John, that just means I need to become the second if I end up an employee. :P Though Konig would most likely beat me too it, I've been too busy handling pets for the Menagerie. It's as addictive as Pokemon. >.>" Katherinezoltin 03:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
- You do (at least I'm pretty sure you do) have access to all the data, or at least know some people who do; I'm sure you could confirm your theory. :) — Jon
- Well I'm not going to spill any info on the HoM unless it is first posted on our website and/or by our community team, but just know that I will be holding the rewards to a pretty high standard given that I am probably the person at the office that will be the most personally affected by it since I *believe* I may be the only Anet employee with GWAMM. Hopefully that makes me a pretty good gauge for the rewards since I've pretty much done it all, and for that reason I can weigh them versus the amount of effort it took pretty well. [John Hargrove]
- Go go gadget theory crafting. I get the feeling GW2 HoM rewards will be based on whether or not specific monuments are full, not so much what you filled them with or how overfilled they are, KoaBD track aside. — Jon
- So, about that HOM in GW2...*grins evily* Just messing with you, I know some people really want to know if its worthwhile to hunt down every itty bitty HOM thing just to get some useless thing in GW2. Then again, I bet these are the same people who think GW2 will come out in 6 months. (no offense to those who believe this, I just think its more likely for a late 2011-early 2012 release.) Katherinezoltin 07:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I'll be honest... I've never actually played it. It has me beat by about 10 years. I just know of it by reputation! [John Hargrove]
- John, not to make you feel old (though I have a talent for it), but that was 17 years before my time. ^^" But interesting back story and don't tell Konig about the brain in a jar, he just might go hunt it down. Katherinezoltin 04:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- Weird. Well...I guess if we ever decide we want "Hunt the Wumpus 2: the Revenge of the Fallen Wumpus", we can just clone him. Karate
- Good man. Thanks KJ! ...and on an unrelated note, apparently the original creator of Hunt the Wumpus underwent neurosuspension!!! That's crazy!~ [John Hargrove]
- Already got ya covered, John. See? Karate
- You guys all need a little lesson in classic gaming apparently. That reference goes back to 1972. :) - [John Hargrove]
- Limited play is everywhere, but if I remember correctly, Linsey did say she got the idea from Magic, or something along those lines, so you could be correct. — Jon
- I ment the idea of a sealed deck tournament. I hear that's used for Magic tournaments sometimes, I dunno, I get chastized by my Magic friends because I love goblins. ^^" Katherinezoltin 22:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
- A Codex is also a Warhammer 40,000 Text, which I believe predates Magic. — Jon
(Reset indent) *cough* *cough* "Well I'm not going to spill any info on the HoM unless it is first posted on our website and/or by our community team..." - John
— Jon
Lupen 01:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, Im counting on pure epicness from all of the unlocks, which is why I tend to have my HOM so full, it needs to extend into the rest of the Eye to show all my awesomeness. ^^" Yeah, Im going to go the distance. Katherinezoltin 06:18, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

